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Josh U.
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Does anyone recognize this?
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« on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 6:25pm »
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I passed this up a while ago, and I've always wondered what line it may have originated from. It's located on Tower Road, a few minutes off of Rock Glen Road, and a few miles from Rock Glen, Pa. and Mountain Grove, Pa., very near the Luzerne/Columbia County line.
 
The railroad bed follows along with Black Creek, from up near Hazleton, down through Rock Glen, and out through Tank (where Interstate 80 goes though the Nescopeck Mountain.), but I lose track of it after that.
 
I've noticed similar bridges of the sort near Wilkes-Barre, in the vicinity of Ashley and Warrior Run, but there's few in this particular area. My guess may be that it's from an old coal railroad, but I'm not sure.
 
Any help would be much appreciated.
 
Thanks, Josh


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Josh U.
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Re: Does anyone recognize this?
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 6:27pm »
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A view from the top of one of the abutments.

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Ashley_John
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Re: Does anyone recognize this?
 
« Reply #2 on: Oct 5th, 2007, 6:33pm »
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Josh, according to historical maps, that looks like it may be the Catawissa? Branch of the Pennsy RR which connected with the Hazleton branch of the LV in Tomhicken.
 
See map here:
 
http://historical.maptech.com/quad.cfm?quadname=Mahanoy&state=PA&series=15
 
Check out the 1892 NW and NE sections, as well as the Catawissa quadrangle maps (one quadrant to the left).
 
Check out this thread as well.
 
John


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Josh U.
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Re: Does anyone recognize this?
 
« Reply #3 on: Oct 6th, 2007, 12:48am »
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on Oct 5th, 2007, 6:33pm, Ashley_John wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Josh, according to historical maps, that looks like it may be the Catawissa? Branch of the Pennsy RR which connected with the Quakake branch of the LV in Tomhicken.
 
See map here:
 
http://historical.maptech.com/quad.cfm?quadname=Mahanoy&state=PA&series=15
 
Check out the 1892 NW and NE sections, as well as the Catawissa quadrangle maps (one quadrant to the left).
 
Check out this thread as well.
 
John

 
Hey, thanks a lot John! Long time no see by the way!


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FrankieJ
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Re: Does anyone recognize this?
 
« Reply #4 on: Jan 30th, 2008, 7:40pm »
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What you are describing here seems to me to be the Wilkes-Barre And Hazleton Railway. Check the internet for more info.
Hope this helps.
 
Frank


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Josh U.
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Re: Does anyone recognize this?
 
« Reply #5 on: Jan 31st, 2008, 12:01pm »
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on Jan 30th, 2008, 7:40pm, FrankieJ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
What you are describing here seems to me to be the Wilkes-Barre And Hazleton Railway. Check the internet for more info.
Hope this helps.
 
Frank

 
No, I'm positive this isn't the WB&H. The WB&H right of way is near my house. This one is on the other side of the valley. I'm guessing this is just an old coal railroad or something.


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Ashley_John
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Re: Does anyone recognize this?
 
« Reply #6 on: Jan 31st, 2008, 4:02pm »
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on Jan 30th, 2008, 7:40pm, FrankieJ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
What you are describing here seems to me to be the Wilkes-Barre And Hazleton Railway. Check the internet for more info.
Hope this helps.
 
Frank

 
Definately NOT the WB&H. The WB&H ROW is way east and a bit north of this area. I'm almost 100% positive it's the Catawissa Branch of the Pennsy RR.
 
John


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XPLORER
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Re: Does anyone recognize this?
 
« Reply #7 on: Feb 1st, 2008, 10:11am »
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John, Didn't you and I climb around on those?
 
Anybody want to throw a map in here for reference to where these are and what they are around?
 
I'm a siv anymore.
RR


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Josh U.
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on Feb 1st, 2008, 10:11am, XPLORER wrote:       (Click here for original message)
John, Didn't you and I climb around on those?
 
Anybody want to throw a map in here for reference to where these are and what they are around?
 
I'm a siv anymore.
RR

 
Here's kind of a rough map of the area. The place where I found the abutments is circled in red. There's really not many recognizable landmarks in the area, but I've marked off what I could.  
 
Just to clear things up, this is about 5 miles west of where Route 93 runs through Conyngham, about a mile east of the town Mountain Grove.


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Josh U.
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Let me try again, image wouldn't show up.

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duplexdrive
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Re: Does anyone recognize this?
 
« Reply #10 on: Jul 16th, 2008, 8:09pm »
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Josh,
That's the Nescopeck branch of the Pennsylvania Railroad. It ran from Nescopeck to a junction with the Lehigh Valley Railroad just past Deringer. The Pennsy then had trackage rights on the Valley into Hazleton. It was abandoned after sometime after 1945. Very nice pictures!
 
Here's my Google Earth link to a tracing of the branch.
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=EarthHistory&Number=1078700&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
 
Russell


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Josh U.
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Re: Does anyone recognize this?
 
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on Jul 16th, 2008, 8:09pm, duplexdrive wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Josh,
That's the Nescopeck branch of the Pennsylvania Railroad. It ran from Nescopeck to a junction with the Lehigh Valley Railroad just past Deringer. The Pennsy then had trackage rights on the Valley into Hazleton. It was abandoned after sometime after 1945. Very nice pictures!
 
Here's my Google Earth link to a tracing of the branch.
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=EarthHistory&Number=1078700&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
 
Russell

 
I'm sorry Russell, I actually just noticed you posted a reply here! I've actually raised a question recently as to whether this was related to the "Danville, Hazleton, and Wilkes-Barre RR" I seem to have heard about.  
 
Josh


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duplexdrive
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 23rd, 2010, 6:58pm »
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Josh,
The Danville, Hazleton and Wilkes-Barre railroad is related to this line. It's the railroad that ran from Catawissa through Mountain Grove and joined the Nescopeck branch around Rock Glen. Both lines were owned by the Pennsylvania Railroad and as far as I can tell they were abandoned about 1947.


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Josh U.
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on Apr 23rd, 2010, 6:58pm, duplexdrive wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Josh,
The Danville, Hazleton and Wilkes-Barre railroad is related to this line. It's the railroad that ran from Catawissa through Mountain Grove and joined the Nescopeck branch around Rock Glen. Both lines were owned by the Pennsylvania Railroad and as far as I can tell they were abandoned about 1947.

 
Awesome, Thanks Russell!


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