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Re: Pittsburg Shawmut & Northern RR - By thebigham on 11/17/15 at 13:47:06 - '100_1953.jpg' 113 KB
The brush gets thicker towards the end of the rail

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Re: Pittsburg Shawmut & Northern RR - By thebigham on 11/17/15 at 13:46:08 - '100_1954.jpg' 115 KB
Main and siding

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Re: Pittsburg Shawmut & Northern RR - By thebigham on 11/17/15 at 13:45:27 - '100_1952.jpg' 116 KB
The rail here has been moved sort of

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Re: Pittsburg Shawmut & Northern RR - By thebigham on 11/17/15 at 13:44:26 - '100_1951.jpg' 110 KB
More

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Re: Pittsburg Shawmut & Northern RR - By thebigham on 11/17/15 at 13:43:41 - '100_1948.jpg' 108 KB
More

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Re: Pittsburg Shawmut & Northern RR - By thebigham on 11/17/15 at 13:42:42 - '100_1947.jpg' 97 KB
A siding is still in place

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Pittsburg Shawmut & Northern RR - By thebigham on 11/17/15 at 13:42:02 - '100_1946.jpg' 105 KB
I was exploring the WNY&P Farmers' Valley branch last October.
 
The branch starts with the PRR's Clermont Branch and then switches over to exPS&N track to serve some sort of wax factory at Farmers Valley.
 
Just past the active track, there lies about a half mile of PS&N original track still in place!

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Re: Does anyone recognize this? - By Josh U. on 08/23/07 at 18:27:53 - 'edPicturejru2s_camer_089.jpg' 293 KB
A view from the top of one of the abutments.

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Does anyone recognize this? - By Josh U. on 08/23/07 at 18:25:55 - 'ed_Picturejru2s_camer_091.jpg' 265 KB
I passed this up a while ago, and I've always wondered what line it may have originated from. It's located on Tower Road, a few minutes off of Rock Glen Road, and a few miles from Rock Glen, Pa. and Mountain Grove, Pa., very near the Luzerne/Columbia County line.
 
The railroad bed follows along with Black Creek, from up near Hazleton, down through Rock Glen, and out through Tank (where Interstate 80 goes though the Nescopeck Mountain.), but I lose track of it after that.
 
I've noticed similar bridges of the sort near Wilkes-Barre, in the vicinity of Ashley and Warrior Run, but there's few in this particular area. My guess may be that it's from an old coal railroad, but I'm not sure.
 
Any help would be much appreciated.
 
Thanks, Josh

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Re: Fallen Flag Slogans - By Tom_J on 08/23/07 at 00:53:52 - 'keep_it_moving_with_conrail1980.jpg' 152 KB
At one brief time in the 1980's CONRAIL had a slogan..  
Sorry about the grainy picture it's the best I can do right now...
 
Tom

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Re: Favorite diesel "Dip" scheme - By Tom_J on 08/23/07 at 00:32:03 - 'c_of_g007.jpg' 48 KB
Speaking of loco dip jobs,does anyone have information on this loco and why it was /is painted in a Cof G  scheme?
 
Tom

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Re: Fallen Flag Slogans - By Nighttrain on 06/13/07 at 22:01:22 - 'MIDLAND-red.jpg-2.jpg' 4 KB
Norfolk and Western Railway
 
Precision Transportation
Route of the Powhattan Arrow

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GTW about to vanish!! - By TSBYfan on 01/15/07 at 10:35:51 - 'GT_GP38-2_4907-1-.Ferndale._MI_800x600.jpg' 77 KB
From a recent report I read on my favorite site railroadfan.com any engine wearin GT letters and GT paint are about to be repainted into the CN scheme. GTW was a great railroad and better on its own, but I guess this is what you get with CN's greediness, BOOO!, Triple thumbs down to CN for making that decision.
 
But for now heres my tribute to the good ol GT!

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Illinois Central - By silver_champion on 12/12/06 at 11:56:21 - 'k22.jpg' 192 KB
I did not see an forum for Illinois Central. I would like to know if the Observation car in this picture was an Illinois Central car. Like the Gulfport

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Favorite Point in a System? - By XPLORER on 09/21/06 at 12:02:18 - 'backtrack_G_marker.jpg' 31 KB
I was going to post in the "Favorite Unlikely Point in a System?" but then I read the fine print. So I started a new one. Your Favorite...........
 
I have two and it is kind of confusing because they are both in the same places and were at one time used by one each, then both, then one again.
The CNJ/L&S from White Haven to Ashley via the Back Track or the Planes.
The LVRR from White Haven to Warrior Run via the original passenger main
 
LINK URL
or the Moutain Cutoff to Pittston.
 
The Tunnels/high fills/rock cuts/ weaving around the tops of mountains in the middle of no where to me is just the coolest thing. Also the fact that most of it is visable today as a remnant or still in use and most of it was constructed in the mid to late 1800's.
 
A gravity RR, two back tracks and a cut off that all start or started with in 50 yards of each other and crossed the other at 2 different points.
RR

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Re: Favorite Unlikely Point in a System? - By Henry on 08/28/06 at 17:56:38 - 'BlackRockYard_1960_USGS.jpg' 274 KB
Black Rock yard was actually three yards in one, GT, DL&W and Erie. GT and Erie had about the same amount of space and DL&W had almost as much as both of them combined. NYC had a yard along one leg of its Niagara Falls branch and Belt Line wye.
 
In the EL years the EL and CN had an agreement where one or the other would work the entire yard area depending on the year. I don't know if there was a similar agreement during the Erie and DL&W years. In the mid 70's (as a teenager) I caught both CN SW1200RS and EL GP7's working the yard at different times.
 
This map shows roughly who owned what prior to the EL merger. Niagara Falls (North) is up and downtown Buffalo is down.
 
The Wabash Freight Office/U.S. Customs House is incorrectly marked as "Black Rock Sta."  I think the Erie's Black Rock branch was mothballed/abandoned shortly after the merger, but I remember the rails still being in place at the time of the Conrail takeover.
 
Henry


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Re: ACL Grade Crossing Markers at Myrtle Beach and - By radioripster on 07/23/06 at 18:07:32 - 'grade_X_marker_MB.jpg' 128 KB

Hello everyone...
 
 I'm interested in learning about the old concrete grade crossings here in the Myrtle Beach- Conways,SC area. There's only a few of them left these days.  
 Orginally Atlantic Coast Line trackage, some post merger Seaboard Coastline bits and pieces are around still but nothing as old looking as these grade crossing markers. I've attached a photo.
 Possible steam era markers? If anyone has any information it would be appreciated.  
 
 Also, does anyone know of any old Myrtle Beach area railroading photographs around? Especially during the ACL.SCL era.
 
 Thanks,
 RR


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CB&Q Class H Moguls - By Penn Central SD40 on 04/21/06 at 20:58:40 - 'Class_H.jpg' 295 KB
I dunno what it is but theres something I like about these little engines, I cant seem to find much about them though. All I found so far was two pictures. Anyone have any more pictures or anything about them?
 
(The top photo is a scan from the Locomotive Quarterly Spring 2000 issue, and the other I found online somewhere)

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Re: Which Anthracite R.R. was your Favorite? - By XPLORER on 04/11/06 at 19:26:10 - 'post_pic.jpg' 24 KB
Boy! How did I miss this post? The DL&W all the way. They owned, built and managed some of the biggest producing colliery's in the Anthracite region. The use of concrete and grade betterment was state of the art at the time. Then they haulded it all out of town. When I think about anthracite I think LACKAWANNA.

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Re: "San Francisco" in SLSF? - By George_Harris on 03/25/06 at 16:48:57 - 'friscologo.jpg' 8 KB
Frisco Logo

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Re: "San Francisco" in SLSF? - By SSW9389 on 03/23/06 at 17:02:37 - 'SLSF607PARIS.jpg' 40 KB
It looks like the "San -anc" was left out! Paris, TEXAS 5-3-73.

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Re: Fallen Flag Slogans - By toddsyr on 01/30/06 at 15:59:29 - 'ERIE_SLOGAN.jpg' 424 KB
Erie Railroad-Serving the Heart of Industrial America.
  
This and MANY others not yet mentioned can be found at LINK URL
 
Photo from LINK URL

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Re: Duluth Missabe & Iron Range and other Taconite - By towny72 on 01/18/06 at 00:24:33 - 'cn_yuck.jpg' 319 KB
Well like the DMIR this forum is dead...maybe a pic can jump start things....

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Re: Which Anthracite R.R. was your Favorite? - By towny72 on 01/18/06 at 00:16:50 - 'COAL_DRAG.jpg' 38 KB
Ok guys please dont stone me! But I have to stick my neck out and go with the B&LE.....Ok Ok Ok I know mainly and Ore railroad, but Hauling Coal from all over WV, PA up to the docks on lake erie has been a major part of its opperations. 90ton hoppers go south with ore, the return with coal waiting to be shipped all over. In fact today more coal is being hauled then ore. Now a part of CN who knows what might happen to the B&LE logo and awsome orange tunnel motors.......Things come and go but it seems BLACK GOLD is tried and true!!!!!!!!  B&LE forever!

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Re: Milwaukee beats Rock Island - By toddsyr on 12/18/05 at 00:49:03 - 'RI_Stored_F_Units_Ft_Worth_TX_May_11_75.jpg' 54 KB
Here 's a shot of some stored Rock Island F units at Fort Worth Texas, May 11 1975. Bill Phillips photo from:
 
LINK URL

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Re: Milwaukee beats Rock Island - By toddsyr on 12/18/05 at 00:40:02 - 'MILW_Deadline_Shoreham_Minnesota_September_1987.jpg' 89 KB
Good post Mr. Harris. I was thinking along those same lines, but don't have great knowledge of these roads demise.  It's kind of difficult to save things from the scrapper when the court orders you to liquidate your assets! Here's a shot of a Milwaukee Road dead line at Shoreham, Minnesota, September, 1987. Photo from:  
 
LINK URL

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Re: Old RR Ads - By daddaj on 11/25/05 at 11:39:20 - 'Arrival.jpg' 74 KB
The ad included this photo of the"Special Train's" arrival in Pasadena.

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Re: Old RR Ads - By daddaj on 11/25/05 at 11:33:24 - 'NYCad.jpg' 94 KB
Here is a combination "Corning Glass Works" and "New York Central" ad concerning the rail transportation of Corning's 200 inch, 20 ton glass reflective mirror from Corning, New York to Pasadena, CA. The mirror was then trucked up to Mount Palomar.

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Re: Old RR Ads - By daddaj on 11/25/05 at 11:27:09 - 'OldPRRad.jpg' 54 KB
I like this PRR ad.

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Re: Old RR Ads - By Henry on 11/22/05 at 19:11:31 - 'CNW_ad_TRAINS_May_1948_p2.gif' 83 KB
on Nov 22nd, 2005, 5:37pm, hummel1237 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
What an ad!!! Where did you get it?!@#$%^&*()(*&^%$##@!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
 
Jim...  

 
Actually I scanned that one back in August of 2003. I buy old issues of TRAINS by the year and I happened to run across that EMD ad while reading the March 1968 issue and decided it was too awesome not to scan and send to the EL list.
 
Here's a C&NW ad from the May 1948 issue of TRAINS, it was the inside front cover.
 
Henry

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Re: Old RR Ads - By toddsyr on 11/22/05 at 04:56:35 - 'EL_EMD_SD45_AD_MAR_68_TRAINS_MAGAZINE.jpg' 175 KB
No not much color ChessieMike, but still a very nicely done ad, especially considering it's time. Thanks for sharing that with us. How's this ad for SD45's? It appeared in the March 1968 issue of Trains magazine. Image from:
 
 LINK URL

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Re: Old RR Ads - By CHESSIEMIKE on 11/21/05 at 22:59:13 - 'NW_add_1917.jpg' 178 KB
Not much color in this one, but what do you want from a 1917 newspaper ad.  
CHESSIEMIKE

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Re: Old RR Ads - By Henry on 11/06/05 at 16:02:25 - 'HeatOnHitler.jpg' 186 KB
I really like the old Pennsy ads!
 
Here's an AAR ad from 1942.
 
Henry
 


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Re: Old RR Ads - By silver_champion on 11/06/05 at 09:19:38 - 'bl.jpg' 81 KB
The Broadway Limited ad.

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Re: Old RR Ads - By silver_champion on 11/06/05 at 09:18:01 - '3.jpg' 280 KB
Here is one from WW2.

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Re: Architecture - By toddsyr on 10/25/05 at 03:05:16 - 'Tower.jpg' 119 KB
The Lackawanna. Make it to last. You're not going to take one of these babies down with a backhoe!

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Re: Old RR Ads - By toddsyr on 10/25/05 at 02:30:18 - 'King_Bridge_Ad.jpg' 25 KB
One more.

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Re: Old RR Ads - By toddsyr on 10/25/05 at 02:15:37 - 'Pioneer_Zephyr.gif' 92 KB
Another.

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Re: Old RR Ads - By toddsyr on 10/25/05 at 02:12:20 - 'EMD_Ad_582x862.jpg' 87 KB
Here's a nice one.

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Re: Duluth Missabe & Iron Range and other Taconite - By Norm_Anderson on 10/22/05 at 15:04:47 - 'DMIR-1956Map.jpg' 54 KB
Here's a map of the DM&IR, rather crudely drawn and definitely not to scale.  For reference, the area shown probably measures about 150 miles east-to-west, and maybe 75 miles north-to-south.  Downtown Duluth to Two Harbors is 25 miles, for example.  The famous Proctor Hill is the "switchback" just west of Duluth, and I imagine the heavy black line bypassing to the west of there would be Steelton Hill.  The map shows only the westernmost tip of Lake Superior-- even today, ore boats need the better part of two days to steam from Duluth to Whitefish Bay.

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Re: Duluth Missabe & Iron Range and other Taconite - By Norm_Anderson on 10/20/05 at 10:32:09 - 'DMIR-1956-03.jpg' 77 KB
And, finally, miscellaneous branch lines that didn't fit onto the other two pages.  The line around to Wisconsin apparently contained a steep hill of its own, known as Steelton Hill.  Pokegama (pronounced po-KEG-a-ma) later became the site of an important freight yard for CN subsidiary DW&P-- it's interesting that the schedules show no connection here . . .

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Re: Old RR Ads - By Charlie_O on 10/17/05 at 16:04:46 - 'NYCentral_ad.jpg' 184 KB


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Re: Fallen Flag Slogans - By toddsyr on 10/15/05 at 03:37:34 - 'ARR_10240.jpg' 315 KB
Thanks again Alcoc420! Most of those are new to me. Keep them coming! Here's one of the ones you speak of. Alaska RR's 10240 in MOW service in Talkeetna, AK in 2002. Photo by Doug Kroll. Found on:
 
LINK URL


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A great loos of our Heritage - By ccazanave on 10/13/05 at 18:26:55 - 'WalthamWatchPlant.jpg' 135 KB
I am very dissapointed with our American quest for sweeping our past under the rug. Our great railroads that made this country great are almost forgotten. We keep very little history and quickly must make way for the new money making ventures. Even our great plants which built this country are being torn down one by one until nothing is left.
Here is the great Waltham Watch Plant that created the timepieces to keep our railroads safe, soon to be torn down to make way for a shopping mail.

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Re: Fallen Flag Slogans - By toddsyr on 10/12/05 at 17:14:45 - 'Dashing_Dan.jpg' 64 KB
on Oct 11th, 2005, 8:11pm, Pennsy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hi All,
 
When the LIRR was still part of the PRR: Route of the Dashing Dan.  
 
This was a reference to the commuters dashing to board their trains. The logo had a salesman type, replete with briefcase, dashing into the train.

 
Now that one I HAD to look up! This and other similar " Dan " images can be found at:
 
LINK URL

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Re: Architecture - By silver_champion on 10/05/05 at 08:30:13 - 'STATION-45.jpg' 82 KB
We lost so many of great buildings and some are still here doing nothing with them. Great Architectures such  as  McKim,Mead and White pland and build great stations like Penn Station, Grand Central Station and all the station with the name Union Station. We need to save what is left for others in days to come to enjoy. Here is a picture of the late great Penn Station. Also please see my photo shows on railroading at    //photoshow.comcast.net/richardtrains.
Most pictures are from other who took the pictures. please enjoy.

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Re: Rock Island?? - By SSW9389 on 10/01/05 at 16:14:42 - 'RI4594NORTH2.jpg' 45 KB
With not enough of this to keep it afloat. Waurika, OK 7/78.

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Re: Rock Island?? - By SSW9389 on 10/01/05 at 16:12:03 - 'MARLOWEWRECK-2.jpg' 58 KB
In its later days the ROCK did too much of this. Marlowe, OK 5/78.

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Re: RF&P ? - By trainman786 on 09/29/05 at 21:32:26 - 'arlingtonaerial.jpg' 52 KB
North end of (former) Potomac Yard in Arlington VA--Four Mile Run creek in foreground.
 
Jim

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Re: RF&P ? - By trainman786 on 09/29/05 at 21:30:54 - 'alexandriaaerial.jpg' 42 KB
In case anyone's interested, here is what USED to be Potomac Yard in Alexandria VA.  The bridge in the foreground is the Monroe St. overpass that connects to Jeff Davis Highway (Route 1).
 
Jim

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Re: Fallen Flag Slogans - By toddsyr on 09/19/05 at 22:06:36 - 'Atlas_33701.jpg' 39 KB
I have an N-scale Pennsy/Fruit Growers Express Insulated Boxcar. Where it says FGE, they formed the words "For Greatest Efficiency".  Atlas part no. 33701

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Re: Big Three: Allegheny, Big Boy or Yellowstone - By WM734 Fan on 06/03/05 at 22:56:55 - 'dmir234.jpg' 99 KB
Heres a DM&IR yellowstone

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Re: Big Three: Allegheny, Big Boy or Yellowstone - By NKP759fan on 06/03/05 at 22:09:25 - 'bigboy4012_01.jpg' 67 KB
Thanks. I finally figured it out. Here's a picture of the 4012 at Steamtown.
 
I found the picture of the 4012 that we thought was the 4017, the file name include the # 4012, so it must be the 4012.


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Re: Big Three: Allegheny, Big Boy or Yellowstone - By WM734 Fan on 06/03/05 at 21:51:02 - 'bno-em-1.jpg' 24 KB
on Jun 3rd, 2005, 9:46pm, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
My computer is dumb. Do you right click when you want to save the file, when I right click and click save as, it saves as an art file and I cannot upload to rf.net. Any ideas?

 
I don't know if your computer has this but can you try "my pictures?"  Mine is band new so i don't know what yours will do.  I don't know much about computers  But anyway heres the B&O EM-1 2-8-8-4

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Re: Big Three: Allegheny, Big Boy or Yellowstone - By WM734 Fan on 06/03/05 at 21:43:43 - 'UP_Big_Boy_4012.jpg' 33 KB
Another of the longest steamer ever built

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Re: Big Three: Allegheny, Big Boy or Yellowstone - By WM734 Fan on 06/03/05 at 21:38:35 - 'co1647b.jpg' 78 KB
Front/side view

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Re: Big Three: Allegheny, Big Boy or Yellowstone - By WM734 Fan on 06/03/05 at 21:37:36 - 'co1647a.jpg' 85 KB
Here's another of my favorite beast

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Re: Big Three: Allegheny, Big Boy or Yellowstone - By Pennsy on 06/03/05 at 20:18:51 - '4294cabforward.jpg' 35 KB
Hi All,
 
Don't think I ever saw a Cab Forward, or any articulated smoke as heavily as that. Send that one back to the shops for repairs, or send the fireman back to apprenticeship. Try this one out.
 
This is # 4294, the same engine preserved and on display in the Sacramento RR Museum.

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Re: Big Three: Allegheny, Big Boy or Yellowstone - By WM734 Fan on 06/03/05 at 17:58:35 - 'cab_forward_framed.jpg' 80 KB
on Jun 3rd, 2005, 4:12pm, Pennsy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hi,
 
Personally, I would go with the Big Boy, especially since I own # 4005, in HO gauge.
 
However, you left out the "backwards Yellowstone" and that would be a Cab Forward. Since # 4272 is also in my HO stable, I would have to include that engine in the selection.

 
Here ya go Pennsy, a "backwards yellowstone" for you!  Here's an SP cab-forward

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Re: Rock Island?? - By SSW9389 on 05/24/05 at 19:58:23 - 'CRIP112PEORIA8-72.jpg' 65 KB
Rock Me! Peoria 8-72.

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 04/17/05 at 02:15:44 - 'bangoryard3-2.jpg' 54 KB
2005...  
 
Jim...

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 04/17/05 at 02:14:25 - 'bangoryard2-3.jpg' 186 KB
on Apr 17th, 2005, 1:35am, Charlie_O wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Jimmy -
Great pic!  Can you post a current pic from the same location?  You know my love for then-n-now pix.
-Charlie

 
1975
 
Jim...


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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 04/17/05 at 01:09:46 - 'bangor1918.jpg' 164 KB
Bangor PA 1918...
 
 Before Griffin Bros and The Trolley Viaduct (Viadock) we see the coaling tower and two (2!) bridges over Martins Creek. One for The Lackawanna's First Street Freight Station and a service bridge for customers behind Bangor's downtown bussiness district. If I have it right the coaling tower was mostly for the Lackawanna's tenders at that time. It appears one lumber holding bin was in place at Bangor Lumber. The rails crossed where the sand pit and a later sister building would go (just as my historian said).  Griffin Bros Coal isn't pictured just yet...
 
Jim...

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 04/16/05 at 21:22:36 - 'BandPShopandFreightStation.jpg' 141 KB
Bangor PA Yard...
 
  This pic has me going. My local historian remembers having to cross two sets of tracks before you get to the wooden coaling tower. I knew tracks went into the lumber yard but this is wild! He also said the rr men called the coal "Blue Coal" and my hunch that Anthracite was reserved for passenger service was confirmed. He said a switcher would push a car or two up to the top and fill the bins. Trucks from the coal company (right next door) would fill there and take it to factories, companies or home coal cellars. I remember as a kid coal being delivered on my street (South Main) in the '60s and 70's. It was Griffin Bros Coal Company at that time but by the 1980s coal became unpopular to heat your home with. What I remember was the scissor bed coal trucks. They would raise them up high, tilt and fill the cellar. It was loud and you knew when someone was getting coal on my block. Just another thing I used to watch. I was there when they loaded the trucks from the holding bin but I don't know how they filled them. I think it was an all truck operation when I was little, there were no tracks leading into the coal area. The lumber company had a holding area but they unloaded the lumber cars with oversized fork lifts and if there was overflow it would be stored at this spot right across from Griffin's. All of this took place where these tracks were, according to my historian. So, we are still only seeing a portion of this area. Maybe I can construct a map between the pics I have plus my historians memory. One thing I'm learning is that a lot more went on than what you can see in a pic but a pic is a great place to start...
 
Jim...  

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Re: Broken Circle of Martins Creek PA and Delaware - By hummel1237 on 03/04/05 at 12:33:05 - 'bang1885a.jpg' 196 KB
Check this over guys and see what you think. Check out the two trains. The upper train is pulling what looks like two wooden passenger cars...  
 
Jim...  

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Re: Broken Circle of Martins Creek PA and Delaware - By NS3360 on 03/03/05 at 16:00:40 - 'lnedlwhistory.jpg' 59 KB
on Mar 3rd, 2005, 3:40pm, hummel1237 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Check this out...  

 
Jim, where on earth did you find that!? Great information!! Here's something I found from 1903...it mentions an LNE bridge 'over Martins Creek'. I don't recall any LNE bridge actually crossing Martins Creek. I wonder what they are referring too? It might be the bridge behind Alpha Portland (not the river bridge, the small one crossing the creek) because the LNE did connect with the PRR there.


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Re: Broken Circle of Martins Creek PA and Delaware - By hummel1237 on 03/03/05 at 15:42:31 - 'bangorhist2.jpg' 85 KB
Jim...  

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Re: Broken Circle of Martins Creek PA and Delaware - By hummel1237 on 03/03/05 at 15:40:56 - 'bangorhist1.jpg' 76 KB
Check this out...  

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By NS3360 on 02/21/05 at 09:57:24 - 'Nazerthjuncwye1939.jpg' 112 KB
on Feb 20th, 2005, 10:50pm, hummel1237 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
I know where the turnout heading South is but where did the North turnout start and connect, before or after the current bridge?
 
Jim...  

 
This is going to be really hard to figure out, especially since the wye was gone by 1939. Also notice the passing siding just before Flicksville Road. It seems CR and NS refer to the junction as Martins Creek Jct since the DCS station sign located after the bridge says "MC". Just a thought I added the sign's approximate location on the map.


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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 02/20/05 at 22:50:40 - 'pleasantgrove.jpg' 66 KB
on Feb 20th, 2005, 9:11pm, NS3360 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Yes we can!
 Jim, I also call it Nazareth Junction since that is the original B&P name

 
I know where the turnout heading South is but where did the North turnout start and connect, before or after the current bridge?
 
Jim...  


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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By NS3360 on 02/20/05 at 21:11:46 - 'Nazarethjunctwye.jpg' 113 KB
on Feb 20th, 2005, 8:56pm, hummel1237 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I saw a map that showed a small wye at Nazareth Junction (that's what I know it as, an old B&P name - some call it Martins Creek Jct and still others Bath Jct). This is a pic near the jct at Pleasant Grove between Martins Creek and Ackermanville...
 
Can we confirm a small wye?
 
Jim...  

 
Yes we can!
 Jim, I also call it Nazareth Junction since that is the original B&P name


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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 02/20/05 at 20:56:25 - 'martinscreek92.jpg' 108 KB
I saw a map that showed a small wye at Nazareth Junction (that's what I know it as, an old B&P name - some call it Martins Creek Jct and still others Bath Jct). This is a pic near the jct at Pleasant Grove between Martins Creek and Ackermanville...
 
Can we confirm a small wye?
 
Jim...  

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 01/29/05 at 05:22:27 - 'Uhlers6.jpg' 149 KB
Thanks Wis! I'm content that I was a little off about the crossing. An old timer from the area gave me a quick lesson on the trolley tracks so yeah, the L&NE and the E&N did not cross Sullivan Trail. Another question; I took a ride by Dixie and the lumber yard and it looks like (I stress looks like) there may have been a service siding, if so, did it cross the road?
 
Jim...

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By NS3360 on 01/26/05 at 15:26:40 - 'Nazarethmap.jpg' 83 KB
on Jan 26th, 2005, 2:58pm, hummel1237 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Got one for Bryan (NS3360),
 
                                               The B&P (Lackawanna) and WG&D (L&NE) ran very close to each other at Nazareth. The crossing at the cement plant near the raceway (where you cross over the truck and railroad xings - flashing light), is that where the B&P ended? Where they park those gons, where the siding ends at the road was the B&P right? How far from that point towards Bath did the B&P go? These two roads ran very close to each other in spots and turns into spaghetti to me with the Conrail break apart. Do you have an old map or can you get one to post on that area?  
 
Thanks!
 
Jim...

 
Jim, you're right. The Essroc siding that ends by the crossing was the B&P, and behind the silos was an interlocked crossing called Dexter Hill where the B&P crossed over the LNE. The DL&W again crossed the LNE to serve Penn-Dixie Plant #4 at a point called Dexter Spur. The Essroc conveyor through Nazareth is built on the B&P row. Now going to Bath, the row is still easily seen. Nearing Christian Spring, I believe there was a connection at Northampton Junction (where LNE Nazareth Branch diverged).  At Route 946 where the NS bridge goes over Bushkill Creek, the B&P bridge is right beside it. B&P row parallels the Cement Secondary to Tadmor where the row becomes a private road for Beatty Contractors all the way to the end. The actual terminus of the B&P was at Newburg Road crossing near Bath. After the crossing, N&B ownership took over. Check the Lackawanna board to read about the B&P's possible expansion to Allentown in 1904. The B&P crossed over the LNE yet again in Bath near the Newburg Road crossing to serve Penn-Dixie Cement Plant #6 which no longer stands. If there is something else you want to know about, just let me know.


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Re: Stockertown/Belfast Junction Pennsylvania - By dougal on 01/24/05 at 16:43:36 - 'Stown1L.jpg' 136 KB
Here's a shot of the yard.

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 01/23/05 at 00:09:25 - 'bangormiller.jpg' 62 KB
Good News! The owners of the Conrad Miller Home (B&P original owner) restored the porch and the house in general! Yee Haw!!!
 
Jim...  

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 01/12/05 at 19:03:03 - 'dlwlne.jpg' 141 KB
Oh my! Thanks Bryan! Here's the L&NE/DL&W connection at Flory Feeds in the 1940s.  
 
Jim...

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By NS3360 on 01/11/05 at 14:18:44 - 'Kunkletown.jpg' 81 KB
on Jan 5th, 2004, 4:20am, hummel1237 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Looking for information on Kunkletown PA. Yup, the trains went there too back in the day. I walked a little piece of the row and found ties and spikes so I'm not a total kook! Anywho, would anyone mind posting the section of the topo map that covers that area?  
 
                                                      Thanks everyone

 
Here ya go Jim.  I was up that way on Sunday. The CHR still goes up to Little Gap, I saw a few freight cars there. The line to Kunkletown is intact for the most part, track ,bridges, and all. I didn't have time to go all the way to K' town but the track (not used) goes at least half way up to there, albeit the road crossings are paved over.  I took pics but they are being developed. When they're done I'll post them in the Chestnut Ridge thread in Short Lines of you want to take a look. Anyway, here's that topo you asked for...


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Re: "San Francisco" in SLSF? - By SSW9389 on 12/31/04 at 14:01:44 - 'SLSF403.jpg' 125 KB
Summer of '78 Lawton, OK and a westbound Frisco train .

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Re: Broken Circle of Martins Creek PA and Delaware - By NS3360 on 11/08/04 at 15:29:47 - '1894_Martins_Creek.jpg' 158 KB
Here's what ya wanted Jim. No yard yet in 1894...not till the LNE comes along 9 years later and builds the yard to conduct interchange with DL&W and the PRR

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 10/06/04 at 14:20:47 - 'freemansburg1.jpg' 74 KB
#3 - Now that looks like an old CNJ main line...  
 
Jim...  

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 10/06/04 at 14:19:36 - 'freemansburg3.jpg' 54 KB
#2 - Someone still uses this one...  
 
Jim...  

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 10/06/04 at 14:18:51 - 'freemansburg2.jpg' 80 KB
Ok, since I don't know let's play "what is it?"
 
#1
 
Jim...  

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By NS3360 on 09/30/04 at 22:03:15 - 'EW_Branch.jpg' 88 KB
Here is a map of the Easton & Western Branch and its junction with the LV E&N (top right)

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By hummel1237 on 09/29/04 at 14:47:35 - 'lvbuilding.jpg' 63 KB
Thanks you all!!!  
 
Awesome map 3360!  
 
Every piece of info helps Walt and thanks!
 
Dan - Is this a pic of the LV shop and area in question? I didn't post it because it came out blurry for some reason but is good for research...
 
Jim...  

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By Charlie_O on 09/28/04 at 09:31:41 - 'CR_GP10_7240.jpg' 109 KB
on Sep 28th, 2004, 3:51am, hummel1237 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
One more noodle to go - there's an old line that ran at street level below the CNJ main. When you head up the hill from McDonalds and make a left before it gets real steep the crossing is still there and it looks like the tracks ran along the CNJ rock wall. Was it some other RR or some sort of spur or service line from one of the mains or even the E&N?

 
Always thought this just a storage track...doesn't appear on any of my maps.  Quite a grade.  Here's a pic from '79...

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Re: Broken Circle of Martins Creek PA and Delaware - By hummel1237 on 09/28/04 at 05:00:31 - 'LHRrow7.jpg' 104 KB
It was really cool fanning with you guys! I got some great pics. I picked out two and here's one I thought was really neat. Asa playing around at the L&HR Mansfield Street Station Area with a CR mow car in the backround surrounded by over growth...
 
Jim...  

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Re: Broken Circle of Martins Creek PA and Delaware - By hummel1237 on 09/19/04 at 00:57:35 - 'areamap1.jpg' 177 KB
Ken,
 
Here's an old map I found and from what I can tell only the LV and the CNJ are the only two lines crossing the Delaware River at Phillipsburg/Easton. The L&HR bridge connects to the CNJ (now NS) or can go to West Easton. So everyone had to use one of these two bridges to Allentown or to the E&N and the cement secondaries. I think I have this right but if someone knows better (NS3360) let me know...
 
Jim...  

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Re: Broken Circle of Martins Creek PA and Delaware - By njvike on 09/15/04 at 18:29:00 - 'portland.jpg' 94 KB
on Sep 15th, 2004, 3:15pm, hummel1237 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Ken,
 
      The Bridge at Delaware NJ was the Warren RR Bridge. I wonder how the Susie Q crossed the Warren RR - meaning - Did the Susie Q cross under the Warren via a small tunnel in the ground which is now Rte 46? It looks like the Warren had railroad build up beyond the bridge at one time...
 
     I have a map of Columbia NJ somewhere and I saw an old pic of Delaware NJ but the Susie Q row between these two points remains a mystery to me...
 
Jim...  

 
Jim,
 
Here's the bridge to which I was referring to. There is also another bridge that crosses the Delaware that I spotted from either Portland or Mt. Bethel. You'll have to forgive me as I took them sometime ago and since I don't know the area at all, I could use some help. Does this bridge have active service on it? Which RR constructed it?
 
There is also another bridge that appears in someone's back yard. It appears that it crossed RT46 at one time. I was going to ask the owner of the property if I could go back there and look but I don't believe anyone was home at the time.
 
Thanks


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Re: Stockertown/Belfast Junction Pennsylvania - By dougal on 09/13/04 at 18:47:39 - 'CS.jpg' 38 KB
Work in progress

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Re: Morris and Essex RR - By hummel1237 on 09/04/04 at 16:19:31 - 'morrisandessex12.jpg' 79 KB
NS #5577...
 
And that's a Hat Trick...
 
Jim...  

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Re: Morris and Essex RR - By hummel1237 on 09/04/04 at 16:17:04 - 'morrisandessex11.jpg' 68 KB
Lincoln Street, Washington NJ...  
 
NS #5090 Smokin'...
 
Jim...  

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Re: Morris and Essex RR - By hummel1237 on 09/04/04 at 16:13:08 - 'morrisandessex10.jpg' 86 KB
Up the Olde Morris and Essex (DL&W). The M&E/NS secondary switch area - Phillipsburg NJ 8-29-04...
 
Jim...  

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Re: Old Ads - By hummel1237 on 08/22/04 at 22:59:02 - 'beertrain.jpg' 110 KB
Can I buy you a beer?  
 
Thought you all might find this interesting as well as educational...
 
Jim...  

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Re: Stockertown/Belfast Junction Pennsylvania - By hummel1237 on 08/14/04 at 16:41:07 - 'stockertown5.jpg' 44 KB
Here's a shot from Rte 33...
 
Jim...  

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By train5764 on 08/10/04 at 21:36:00 - 'BP_tressle_1906.jpg' 129 KB
This is the B&P tressle below Main Street in Pen Argyl near where Main Street ends and Pen Argyl Road begins.  The photo is dated 1906 and the tressle piers are still there today (at least they were when I was up there last Labor Day).

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By train5764 on 08/08/04 at 11:55:18 - 'LNE_station_1900.jpg' 34 KB
The final pic is the L&NE passenger station/corporate offices, circa 1900.  This is the NE corner of Pennsylvania & Robinson.
 
Brian

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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By train5764 on 08/08/04 at 11:54:18 - 'Correll_Building_1882.jpg' 52 KB
Next pic is the Correll Building, circa 1882.  This is the vaudeville house you noted.  At the bottom you can see the L&NE / B&P  R.O.W. where it crossed Main Street.  The building you thought maybe a trolley station was actually a funeral parlor, pool hall, then theatre.  You may notice the angled attachment to the Correll was not there at this time.  A 1902 photo of the building has this extension.
 
Brian


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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By train5764 on 08/08/04 at 11:50:12 - 'Main_Street_1911.jpg' 44 KB
This pic is this area of Main Street about the intersection of Main and C Street, looking east, dated 1911.  The victorian house on the right is still there and currently adjacent to the existing station.


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Re: Fallen Flag Archaeology/Geography - By train5764 on 08/08/04 at 11:49:05 - 'BP_station_1912.jpg' 29 KB
Then the station was moved to Main Street.  This is just west of the current D&LW station.  If you remember from your Pen Argyl visit, Main Street gets very wide just west of that station.  This was the third location of the B&P station.  This pic is dated 1912.  


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