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pcrr4life
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Pocono Northeast Railway
 
« on: Oct 25th, 2010, 11:23pm »
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I would like some help on the location of these photos I took in May 1991. The only info I know it that they are taken somewhere along Route 92.Thanks.
 
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=163810&l=fe86743ca2&id=100001190047520
 
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=163811&l=50e0eeaf2b&id=100001190047520
 
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=163812&l=b4ac5f91bc&id=100001190047520


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« Reply #1 on: Oct 25th, 2010, 11:35pm »
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I think it might have been predecessor to the DL, or even earlier than that.  There's a picture on either railpictures.net or rrpicturearchives.com of a PNER diesel shifting UP 4012 when it used to sit on the bridge in front of the Radisson.

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« Reply #2 on: Oct 25th, 2010, 11:45pm »
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The building (which still stands) is located at 1004 Exeter Avenue, Exeter, Pa.
 
If you have any other pictures of the PNER, please post.


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If I stand in Grandma's back yard in Georgetown and close my eyes real tight, I can still hear CNJ freights grinding up the backtrack......and smell the smoke from the brake shoes of a Tuscan Century 628 as it leads NE-84 through Georgetown Interlocking on its way to a meet with the D&H at W-B.....
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 26th, 2010, 6:14pm »
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on Oct 25th, 2010, 11:35pm, restore_RV15 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I think it might have been predecessor to the DL, or even earlier than that.

 It was. It ran from 1982-1994 from what I have read online. These are the only pictures I have.


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« Reply #4 on: Oct 29th, 2010, 3:39pm »
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It was more of a predecessor to the L&S.  The DL-operated lines were run by the Lackawanna Valley and the Lackawanna Railway during this same time period..
 
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 12th, 2010, 4:36pm »
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Andy T is right as far as the location of the pics,they're on the old LV a few hundred yards south of the Coxton Bridge.The PNER was the predecessor of the L&S,and mostly ran on the old LV from West Pittston to Kingston,and also on the DL&W Bloom and the old Erie/WB&E in Avoca and Suscon,and the Erie in Port Blanchard/Port Griffith.The SW1 in the pic still exists,#601,it sits in Coxton yard. There was another switcher in the same paint,#901,and a GP9,#1751,which went to Air Products for years,and went back to the L&S a few years ago,and is still in service on the L&S in PNER paint,with the same number,and the lettering crossed out.In 1985 or so,on the old Erie main in Port Blanchard,now long gone,1751 once derailed right in the middle of the crossing on Main Street.It sat there for more than a week,it was dug down right into the road...

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« Reply #6 on: Nov 13th, 2010, 12:02am »
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Here's the latest and greatest with the 1751...
 
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2281572
 
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 13th, 2010, 10:32am »
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Frank,when the heck did they do that?I just painted up 1751 in N scale,I'll post pics if I get a chance..

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« Reply #8 on: Nov 13th, 2010, 12:34pm »
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Related to me years ago was that the PNE operator mined culm on the r/o/w and when this played out so did PNE operations. Beats me.

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« Reply #9 on: Nov 13th, 2010, 1:44pm »
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TB,the "operator" was none other than the one and only Louis DeNaples,[Mount Airy Casino...]the northeast king of trash,destroy,and make money..

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« Reply #10 on: Nov 13th, 2010, 10:18pm »
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Hmmmm, must be what was related so long ago had the ring of truth.

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« Reply #11 on: Mar 27th, 2011, 12:37pm »
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 It is true that the PNE removed coal from under the trackage on many sections of lines that they operated.  What reminded me of some of the details was in the second photo in the first post here dated Oct, 25.  I recognized the rear quarter panel of the cream colored 1988 LTD Crown Victoria. That car belonged to the PNE. It was a police package car and was ordered by Robert McNichols.  He used it as his personal car. He was the superintendent of the PNE.  He was formerly a clerk for Erie Lackawanna. He wanted a police car and used the PNE as his excuse to order one as only police agencys could get one new from Ford.  He was the superintendent for the whole time span of PNE and orchestrated the selling of most all of the precious materials on the PNE.  Coal, steel, copper, stone, anything and everything was sold. One of the biggest coal removal projects was on the LV Bowmans Creek branch. The section going up the hill between Slocum St. and Church St. in Swoyersville was the first to go. Coal was removed and culm was brought in to haphazardly recreate the grade. Next was the fill on the LV, between the EL Bloomsburg branch and Wyoming Ave. (Route 11) in Forty-Fort.  This fill ran adjacent to Dilley St. in Forty-Fort.   The steel bridge which spanned the Bloom and the LV spur to Kingston also was scrapped.  The stone abutments and piers were sold too.  They then brought a switch track which they removed from the Bloom just south of Eighth St. in Wyoming.  It was moved on a flat car and forced into place to join the Bloom with the LV track to the Acme Markets warehouse in Forty-Fort.  It was such a poor job that it was not useable for two reasons.  First was that the angle was too sharp to make the turn. A locomotive could not make the turn as the wheels always rode up over the railhead.  Secondly, the difference in elevation between the Bloom trackage and Wyoming Ave. was too great.  They used a Caterpiller front end loader to pull each car seperately up the hill, using a chain, and then fron Penn State Seed Co. they would push it to Acme.  Needless to say , Acme Markets stopped using rail due to poor service. They were the biggest customer during the LV years on this section of the Bowmans Creek branch, getting service 6 days a week except Saturday.   They got roughly 7 to 10 cars of merchandise a day.  That Acme warehouse was huge.  It had two tracks along the rear of the building, and a stub track that formerly crossed River St. in Forty-Fort which led to Port Bowkley.  Alot of Proctor and Gamble paper was distributed from that warehouse using LV from the P&G plant at Mehoopany directly to Forty-Fort.  Conrail even serviced them 6 days a week.  That all ended when PNE took over in 1981.  Then PNE used to come down from Coxton 3 days a week for Acme service.  After a while, Acme slowly switched to mostly trucks because of the purposely slow PNE service.  When the PNE destroyed the LV track across the fill Acme went to all trucks.  As a side note, I know that the PNE engine and caboose paint schemes were designed by a PNE employee named Paul Rice.  He told me that they were Erie Lackawanna paint schemes using John Deere colors. Both EL and JD were passions of his.

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