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« on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:11pm »
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Really not "shortlines" in the traditional sense, these lines would probably be better classed as regional railroads.
 
While the names are similar, these were two different properties, although they did connect and the P&S was at one time leased by the PS&N. The history is rather convoluted, so rather than try to relay it here, here are some links to some on line history:
 
Pittsburg, Shawmut & Northern
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburg%2C_Shawmut_and_Northern_Railroad
 
Pittsburg & Shawmut
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburg_and_Shawmut_Railroad


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« Reply #1 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:13pm »
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Here are some photos I've collected from Ebay over the last couple of years:
 
Starting things off, here's PS&N #12 taken at Shawmut, PA in 1937.


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« Reply #2 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:15pm »
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A builders photo of #15, a Baldwin product (C/N 41015) from December 1913


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« Reply #3 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:17pm »
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PS&N #60, also a Baldwin product


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« Reply #4 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:23pm »
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PS&N #62


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« Reply #5 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:25pm »
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A second view of #62:


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« Reply #6 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:28pm »
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PS&N #98 Due to its' long wheelbase, the 98 didn't last long on the PS&N. Called the "Curve Straightener" it was mainly used in pusher service but had to be used in reverse when pushing trains.  
 
EDIT, Feb. 24, 2008 After reviewing one of my PS&N books, I realized that this locomotive was originally built FOR the Hocking Valley where it's performance was less than satisfactory. The locomotive was sold TO the PS&N but scrapped by 1930.



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« Reply #7 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:31pm »
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Here are some photos of the P&S. Here's Pittsburg & Shawmut #217 in Brookville, PA on Sept. 26th, 1952.

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« Reply #8 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:33pm »
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P&S #570, purchased from the Monon (AKA Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville) in Brookville on June 20th, 1948.

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« Reply #9 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:35pm »
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A typical P&S hopper, once a common sight in freight trains in Western Pennsylvania:


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« Reply #10 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:36pm »
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A couple of P&S cabooses. First, the #167:


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« Reply #11 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:40pm »
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Finally, the # 168.


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« Reply #12 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 7:50pm »
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Here's PS&N #81, a "Russian Decapod". Built by Baldwin (C/N 48132) this locomotive was purchased from the Erie in 1942, and was scrapped by the PS&N in May 1944. This loco was known as the "Damn Bolshevik" due to it's troublesome nature while in service on the PS&N.


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« Reply #13 on: Apr 23rd, 2011, 11:05pm »
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Both the 167 and 168 cabooses were, I believe, products of the Russell Snow Plow Company of Ridgway. Originally built for the PS&N, these cars caused the company to begin calling itself the Russell Snow Plow and Car Company, although the corporate name remained  Russell Snow Plow Company.

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« Reply #14 on: Apr 24th, 2011, 12:18am »
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Thanks for the information Bob. I have to admit that although I grew up not far from Ridgway the Russell Plow and Car Company is one that I know very little about.  
 
First of all do you know where in Ridgway this company was located? Does the building still exist? What years did they operate?
 
I've casually tried to find this information but have uncovered little. I'd be most interested in knowing when the Russell company ceased operation.
 
I pass through Ridgway on my yearly journey to my hometown but information seems to be sparse, at best, unless I'm looking "in all the wrong places".
 
Thanks again, Art
 
EDIT: After making my post, I tried the trusty Google search and readily found this aerial map of Ridgway showing the location of the Russell Snowplow Company saying that the location is now occupied by a PennDot facility. The accompanying text states that the company ended production in the "mid-twentieth century" with no more specific date given.
 
http://wikimapia.org/12311482/Site-of-Russell-Snow-Plow-Company-factory
 
EDIT #2: I also found this undated article that states that the Russell Plow Company was located in Boston, MA as well as Ridgway, PA.
 
http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/stevec/MLS-Topic-Article/RussellSnowPlow.pdf


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on Apr 24th, 2011, 12:18am, Aa3rt wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I've casually tried to find this information but have uncovered little. I'd be most interested in knowing when the Russell company ceased operation.
 
EDIT: After making my post, I tried the trusty Google search and readily found this aerial map of Ridgway showing the location of the Russell Snowplow Company saying that the location is now occupied by a PennDot facility. The accompanying text states that the company ended production in the "mid-twentieth century" with no more specific date given.
 
http://wikimapia.org/12311482/Site-of-Russell-Snow-Plow-Company-factory

 
I think I'm the guy who made that wikimapia entry. I don't remember when various things happened. I could look them up, but I'd have to go to Ridgway to the courthouse to do it.
 
I moved up to this part of the state in late summer of 1962. At that time, the Russell factory was just sitting there, looking disused. One day as I passed by there, I noticed a sign saying "B. Manno Corporation" and from the look of materials sitting around, it appeared B. Manno might be in the steel fabrication business.
 
Years passed and B. Manno didn't look much busier than the snow plow company had. Then one day I went by and saw the PennDoT garage going up.  
 
Two or three years ago I stumbled onto a document recording that "B. Manno Corporation" was the successor by change of name to "Russell Snow Plow Company". Also around that time I saw a deed (or other agreement) by which the B. Manno Corporation leased the land to PennDoT. I didn't write down the dates and don't remember them.
 
It may be sufficient to say that I never saw any sign of activity at the Russell factory from 1962 onward until Manno took over, whenever that was, and not much activity after. As noted above, in 1962 the place looked deserted and weed-grown so I assume any snow plow construction had ceased years earlier.
 


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For all the times I've driven along the former Erie main in western NY, I've never taken the time to take a photo of the PS&N right-of-way near Swain.  There is still a sweeping curve and culvert visible from the road.  I stopped on my way to Hornell this week to take a shot.
Just a short distance east of Swain, I spotted a small sign "Shawmut House."  Not sure what that means.
As you arrive in Hornell on Route 36, there is a Shawmut Industrial Park, currently (2011/2012) occupied by Alstom's motor department.  From what I gather, the Park used to be the PS&N's yard on the outskirts of Hornell.
 
Another web site hosted by the Rochester NRHS Chapter, Western New York Railroad Archive, has a bit more info (maps, photos) on the PS&N.
 
http://www.wnyrails.org/railroads/psn/psn_home.htm


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http://www.psnrrhs.org/events.html
 
On a drive through western New York, November 2012, I stopped at Allegany Fairgrounds - just as a PSNRRHS member was leaving.



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« Reply #18 on: Mar 9th, 2013, 3:24pm »
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Nice photos, everyone!
 
Regarding PS&N #98......"Curve Straightener?" I guess so.......wow!  
 
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