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Posted by: lwhitehead Posted on: Sep 29th, 2015, 7:07am
Hi I need help with my Galaxy Express Train setting, it's set in currently in North America railways system. It's a Sci-Fi setting like Spider Roberson's Bar books.  
 
 
The Steam Locomotive is name Stanley Steamer, yes I know it was a car, but if a Dragon can be name a Locomotive as well.  
 
Engineer: Casey Jones (yes he is a alive and kicking)
 
Conductor: an Alien in Human form
 
First: I need to know the most powerful Steam Engine not the heaviest but in pulling power,  
 
Second: I need some sort of fire source that burns for an unlimited time, like a Star but compressing it would cause a Black Hole but that even would be too big. Atomic power would make the Loco an H Bomb,
 
LW
 
Posted by: ClydeDET Posted on: Oct 1st, 2015, 11:18pm
You will get a lot of argument about "most powerful", and it makes a HUGE difference if you factor in speed and track profile in terms of what will work. But a 2-8-8-4 Yellowstone, maybe, or a N&W Y 2-8-8-2.
 
As to power, ain't nuthin that will meet your requirement. Either stop every so often for water and oil or coal, or go nuclear. A fission plant would run for years and only be an A-bomb (not really, but if you ruptured the containment vessel would be a nasty mess).
Posted by: lwhitehead Posted on: Oct 1st, 2015, 11:36pm
what about the PRR T1 Duplex Drive 4-4-4-4, this Steam Locomotive is streamlined which is prefect for my Galaxy Express it was one most advanced and hardest Engine to drive.  
 
The other problem is the Passenger Cars, which half is normal Streamlined the other half are mix of private Cars used by the Train crew and the Riders it were they live.
 
the cost of a Ticket and meals is what you can afford to pay,
 
 
LW
Posted by: ClydeDET Posted on: Oct 2nd, 2015, 2:16pm
lot's of streamlined engines. Santa Fe Blue Goose 4-6-4. Milwaukee Road A (4-4-2) and F (4-6-4). C&NW 4-6-4. Many others. For power in a passenger engine, I'd likely go with N&W J-class 4-8-4, which except for duplex drive were easily as advanced as PRR Ts. And VERY capable.
 
If the cars are normal passenger (and PVs are normal except for being classified as private and usually nicely set up), HOW MANY? 15? 20? Passenger trains, for a number of reasons seldom carried over 20 cars..
Posted by: TAB Posted on: Oct 4th, 2015, 12:20am
....here's a link to a page with a lot of information on locomotive pulling power....Tom
 
http://www.steamlocomotive.com/misc/largest.php
Posted by: lwhitehead Posted on: Nov 5th, 2015, 9:19pm
I've got to figure out the layout of this Train, as told before the Train is devived between those that are Riding to those who know were there going since this Train stops at ever stop needed.
 
 
Now the Golden Spike Lounge Cars which is Two Cars long, it holds on the walls all the Golden Spikes in North America railways it's also the source of the train's so called magical like powers.
 
Given the fact now that current Passenger trains is like riding on Passenger Bus, most of the time you have to bring your own food. I hear also there ricky as well,
 
 
LW
Posted by: ClydeDET Posted on: Nov 6th, 2015, 5:49pm
on Nov 5th, 2015, 9:19pm, lwhitehead wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I've got to figure out the layout of this Train, as told before the Train is devived between those that are Riding to those who know were there going since this Train stops at ever stop needed.
 
 
Now the Golden Spike Lounge Cars which is Two Cars long, it holds on the walls all the Golden Spikes in North America railways it's also the source of the train's so called magical like powers.
 
Given the fact now that current Passenger trains is like riding on Passenger Bus, most of the time you have to bring your own food. I hear also there ricky as well,
 
 
LW

 
Dunno about that current passenger trains being "like riding on a bus" - my experience is they aren't. more space. Access to lounge cars. Access to snack bar (usually associated with lounge cars). Access to diner - though you do see people bringing food along - which is pricey.
 
Even light rail and commuter rail is a way of travel with more room than a bus, city or long distance.
Posted by: lwhitehead Posted on: Jan 13th, 2017, 2:34pm
Well like Doctor Who's Tardis the Galaxy Express Train is alot bigger in the inside then outside,  
 
This setting is inspired by Spider Robinson's Callahan's Series,  
 
 
Also there Two type of people aboard this Train those are going somewhere and those who just ride and live on the Train,
 
LW
Posted by: lwhitehead Posted on: Jan 15th, 2017, 9:38am
I also need help with the Streamlined Passengers Cars, but not the Budd Metroliner Cars or AMFleet, ViaRail did save some Dome Cars and Streamlined Cars.
 
 
LW
Posted by: Daysikia92 Posted on: Apr 10th, 2017, 2:10am
I'd like to help you, but I am not quite sure about your question.
Posted by: HwyHaulier Posted on: Apr 11th, 2017, 7:54am
on Apr 10th, 2017, 2:10am, Daysikia92 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I'd like to help you, but I am not quite sure about your question.

 
Daysikia92 - Lodge Members -  
 
Welcome Aboard!
 
Your writer is a bit dubious about this instant thread. This hardly the first time where someone wanders in with an  
obscure and vague agenda. This usually  a wannabe someone in search of a good TV or movie script, or a great  
novel. This a familiar query. Guess regulars here with reputations as solid sources on rail issues? Flattery is nice...
 
So, as an aid to stopping this right now? IMHO, the pre and post WWII entries as best steam power in US ever?  
Nominees with the powerful and capable,  LIMA 4-8-4 types with the Southern Pacific example "Daylight" types.  
Comparable, physically somewhat larger than "Eastern Area" types. Easily protected very difficult assignments.
 
Passenger Dept. rolling stock? Here, the classic BUDD equipment, developed and refined in era contemporary  
with the modern steam...
 
Note to Seasoned Old timers here? Perhaps there is some money in this? Adjunct Professors at Community  
Colleges everywhere? (Momma always used to say one should be careful with possibly rude and tacky remarks,  
but...)
 
....................  Vern  ....................
Posted by: George_Harris Posted on: Apr 11th, 2017, 11:11am
Quote:
on Apr 10th, 2017, 2:10am, Daysikia92 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I'd like to help you, but I am not quite sure about your question.

 
on Apr 11th, 2017, 7:54am, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Daysikia92 - Lodge Members -  
 
Welcome Aboard!
 
Your writer is a bit dubious about this instant thread. This hardly the first time where someone wanders in with an obscure and vague agenda. This usually  a wannabe someone in search of a good TV or movie script, or a great novel. This a familiar query. Guess regulars here with reputations as solid sources on rail issues? Flattery is nice...
 
So, as an aid to stopping this right now? IMHO, the pre and post WWII entries as best steam power in US ever? Nominees with the powerful and capable,  LIMA 4-8-4 types with the Southern Pacific example "Daylight" types.  
Comparable, physically somewhat larger than "Eastern Area" types. Easily protected very difficult assignments.
 
Passenger Dept. rolling stock? Here, the classic BUDD equipment, developed and refined in era contemporary with the modern steam...
 
Note to Seasoned Old timers here? Perhaps there is some money in this? Adjunct Professors at Community Colleges everywhere? (Momma always used to say one should be careful with possibly rude and tacky remarks, but...)
 
....................  Vern  ....................

Vern:  Agree with you.  I do at times be somewhat suspicious of motives.  A few years back when I questioned the ownership of the commodity when someone asked about cutting up rail, and the guy got all bent out of shape about the question the response more confirmed my suspicions than resolved it.  
 
At one point in a professional issue it was suggested by another involved that the person raising the question do his own research.  Thanks to the wide range of information available on the internet much information can be found there.  All that is needed is sufficient judgment and background knowledge to glean the grain from the chaff.  As an example, in railroad civil and track engineering almost all of the annual publications of the American Railway Engineering Association can be found on line, as well as quite a bit of other relevant information.
 
When it comes to the subject at hand, in the 1950's when atomic power was being promoted with enthusiasm the potential for atomic powered locomotives was being promoted.  Yes, that required a very small power plant, and it was thought that such could be doable.  Look up publications from the 1950's for ideas.  The Shinkansen trains have some form of protection against pressure pulses that occur when trains enter and exit tunnels. Think about that sort of thing when extremely high speeds are involved.
 
There are people here that would probably be willing to do research for the right considerations, but giving away life education and experience for free should not be expected.
Posted by: ClydeDET Posted on: Apr 20th, 2017, 1:52pm
on Apr 11th, 2017, 11:11am, George_Harris wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Vern:  Agree with you.  I do at times be somewhat suspicious of motives.  A few years back when I questioned the ownership of the commodity when someone asked about cutting up rail, and the guy got all bent out of shape about the question the response more confirmed my suspicions than resolved it.  
 
At one point in a professional issue it was suggested by another involved that the person raising the question do his own research.  Thanks to the wide range of information available on the internet much information can be found there.  All that is needed is sufficient judgment and background knowledge to glean the grain from the chaff.  As an example, in railroad civil and track engineering almost all of the annual publications of the American Railway Engineering Association can be found on line, as well as quite a bit of other relevant information.
 
When it comes to the subject at hand, in the 1950's when atomic power was being promoted with enthusiasm the potential for atomic powered locomotives was being promoted.  Yes, that required a very small power plant, and it was thought that such could be doable.  Look up publications from the 1950's for ideas.  The Shinkansen trains have some form of protection against pressure pulses that occur when trains enter and exit tunnels. Think about that sort of thing when extremely high speeds are involved.
 
There are people here that would probably be willing to do research for the right considerations, but giving away life education and experience for free should not be expected.

 
Still not sure exactly what the OP seeks, so hard to respond sensibly.
 
In re nuclear power for trains (except electric trains with the over-head/third rail energized from an off-like nuclear plant), I really doubt it would work well. I think John Galt had a train with a nuclear powered loco, and it seems like Harry Harrison, in A TRANSATLANTIC TUNNEL HURRAH (good book BTW), had a nuclear locomotive.