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« Reply #300 on: Nov 13th, 2011, 10:42pm »
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I've got to agree with some of what you say Marty, but... given the rest of the tripe offered on TV lately, I'll continue to watch the story line. For now anyways.
 
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« Reply #301 on: Nov 14th, 2011, 12:02pm »
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Marty -  
 
I appreciate your - how shall we say - prickly critique. I saw some of it last week, and last night.
 
My daughter, now a practiced scholar of media, with a trenchant remark, more or less: "...just a knockoff of MAD MEN, and BOARDWALK...".  
Likely, she is on to something.
 
There's a couple or so "Technical Direction" points which compel the curious to fact check. The writers did select truly contentious sets of events  
in long gone history. Whether they are shooting for slavish in supporting facts? I don't know...
 
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« Reply #302 on: Nov 15th, 2011, 12:38am »
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I'll wager that the true story of the real "Hell on Wheels" is far more compelling.
 
 
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« Reply #303 on: Nov 15th, 2011, 10:10pm »
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Hi Norm,
 
I figured "Hell On Wheels" was something the network made up. Where might one read up on this?  
 
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« Reply #304 on: Nov 16th, 2011, 2:35am »
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Hi, Todd,
 
My memory may be fuzzy on a few points here, but as I recall, the real "Hell on Wheels" was an unauthorized "Tent City" that shadowed the Union Pacific construction crews westward across the prairies during the buiding of the Transcontinental Railroad.  Though it may have contained a few legitimate entrepreneurs (or not), it is most remembered as a collection of gambling halls, makeshift saloons, and brothels whose chief purpose was to separate the laborers from their pay.   Law enforcement and regulation were, shall we say, tentative at best, and railroad workers literally entered the camp at their peril, and some reportedly paid with their lives.  One report (which I have been unable to confirm) said that the railroad tried to get these hangers-on and parasites to cease and desist, and when the railroad's entreaties were met with derision, the Bluecoats (perhaps under Gen. Philip Sheridan) were called in to get the job done.
 
As I say, I may be fuzzy on a few details here, and welcome correction, but I'll still bet the true story has more intrigue and danger (and, possibly, valor) in it than the fictionalized version.
 
 
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« Reply #305 on: Nov 16th, 2011, 11:05am »
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Norm -  
 
Likely you have it all characterized correctly. Evidently, you have seen much more on the TRANSCON RAILROAD  
than most. Were we to "Time Line" the events, recall the contemporary booms in Gold and Silver, especially. The  
myriad "Prospectors" were all over the map, including much activity in Alaska.
 
A distinction, however, the TRANSCON RAILROAD an enormous FEDERAL GOV project! Two "Prime Contractors"  
on the deals (UPRR and CPRR). So that, effectively the Contractors had to be the Law, over entire route. Surely,  
they had willing support from FED DEFENSE forces to back them up.
 
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« Reply #306 on: Nov 16th, 2011, 9:33pm »
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on Nov 16th, 2011, 2:35am, Norm_Anderson wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hi, Todd,
 
My memory may be fuzzy on a few points here, but as I recall, the real "Hell on Wheels" was an unauthorized "Tent City" that shadowed the Union Pacific construction crews westward across the prairies during the buiding of the Transcontinental Railroad.  Though it may have contained a few legitimate entrepreneurs (or not), it is most remembered as a collection of gambling halls, makeshift saloons, and brothels whose chief purpose was to separate the laborers from their pay.   Law enforcement and regulation were, shall we say, tentative at best, and railroad workers literally entered the camp at their peril, and some reportedly paid with their lives.  One report (which I have been unable to confirm) said that the railroad tried to get these hangers-on and parasites to cease and desist, and when the railroad's entreaties were met with derision, the Bluecoats (perhaps under Gen. Philip Sheridan) were called in to get the job done.
 
As I say, I may be fuzzy on a few details here, and welcome correction, but I'll still bet the true story has more intrigue and danger (and, possibly, valor) in it than the fictionalized version.
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm

 
Thanks for the informative reply Norm. I have read about these temporary towns many times. I didn't know your reference to a "Hell On Wheels" was directed toward these. I've been a bit ill, so please excuse my oversight.  
 
I would wager that your quite right when saying "the true story has more intrigue and danger (and, possibly, valor) in it than the fictionalized version."
 
It's probably one of those things that historians have painted a bit prettier than it actually was. The native American situation alone would speak volumes.  
 
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« Reply #307 on: Nov 29th, 2011, 3:14pm »
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« Reply #308 on: Feb 19th, 2012, 6:15pm »
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"Trains & Travel" magazine.
 
A friend of mine has a couple of these old magazines from 1953. It was put out by Kalmbach Publishing. The title on the front cover is even done in the same lettering style as "Trains" magazine. There's very little about this magazine to be found on the 'net.  
 
Can anyone shed some more light on this? When was it started? Ended? Did they just merge it with "Trains"? Thanks.
 
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« Reply #309 on: Feb 19th, 2012, 9:12pm »
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Not a separate magazine- "Trains & Travel" was a short lived (and, in that timeframe) title for 'Trains' magazine. I have bunches of 'em buried in the attic- my father started buying Trains just after the war, and I have his collection.
 
Without digging, I can't say for sure if that was the original title, or it was changed and then changed back.
 
Update- just looked at Klambake's print ad (can't say about an online ad) for their 70th anniversary DVD; the illustration shows the original title was Trains, then changed to Trains & Travel, then back to Trains.


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« Reply #310 on: Feb 19th, 2012, 10:32pm »
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Thanks for clearing up that little mystery Marty.  
 
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« Reply #311 on: Feb 19th, 2012, 11:22pm »
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Wow, what a warm memory that title stirs for me-- it was my Dad's copy of the Trains & Travel Annual for 1953 (which I discovered tucked away in our basement in 1961) that opened my eyes to reading about trains.  I literally wore out the magazine with my perusings.  The cover was a Howard Fogg painting of Warbonnet PA's racing across the desert toward the viewer-- inside were articles like "Great Feats of Railroad Engineering"-- Horseshoe Curve, Zoo Junction, CP's Spiral Tunnels, etc.  My favorite article was a "you-are-there" story called Operation:Streamliner, chronicling a fireman's run from Los Angeles to Las Vegas on the UP's City of Los Angeles.  I think it was this issue of this magazine that changed this nine-year-old from a kid who loved trains into a railfan.
 
 
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on Feb 19th, 2012, 9:12pm, Marty_Feldner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Not a separate magazine- "Trains & Travel" was a short lived (and, in that timeframe) title for 'Trains' magazine. I have bunches of 'em buried in the attic- my father started buying Trains just after the war, and I have his collection.
 
Without digging, I can't say for sure if that was the original title, or it was changed and then changed back.
 
Update- just looked at Klambake's print ad (can't say about an online ad) for their 70th anniversary DVD; the illustration shows the original title was Trains, then changed to Trains & Travel, then back to Trains.

Started as Trains.  Don't know the exact start and end of Trains and Travel was somewhere in the early 1950's.  I think the start was post 1950.  I know the end was pre 1959.


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« Reply #313 on: Feb 20th, 2012, 9:45am »
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George - Gentle Readers -  
 
Ah! So long ago, there was a massive complex of Streamliners in place, covering the entire Nation. Predated Jet Airliners!
 
Also, check the "Wayback Machine" for this one: Recall when Kalmbach tried a "Ships And The Sea" (or something like  
that) in same era? Before the St. Lawrence Seaway wrecked Buffalo?
 
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Glad you got a kick out of it Norm.
 
Vern- Ships and Sailing, 1951-1959.
 
See:
 
http://www.kalmbach.com/en/About%20Kalmbach/Timeline/User%20Friendly%20Version.aspx
 
Just about every Kalmbach item on their. Except Trains & Travel of course.
 
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« Reply #315 on: Dec 10th, 2012, 7:47pm »
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Remember I SPY with Bil Cosby and Robert Culp?  They're in China after a missing train.
 
 
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I maybe showing my age here.
 
Some of you maybe remember a PBS series called "The Electric Company."
 
It was a reading series which ran from 1971-1985 though they ceased production after the 6th season.
 
This particular segment deals with the car sound as the train yard worker or whatever you call him  puts a freight train together with R words.
 
Later you have to of the kids sing a song.
 
 
A bit dorky but entertaining.
 
 
 
Also the worker is a young Morgan Freeman.
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsHc9588Ies  
 
Don't think he became big till years later.
 


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