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WM734fan
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Engine Discussion: #98
 
« on: Aug 10th, 2005, 4:11pm »
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Hey everyone,
 
Since #58 takes over so much with the steam operations, I thought it would be cool to have a general discussion on the W&W's Alco 4-4-0 #98. Talk about anything you would like about #98 here.  
 
Here are my questions about #98:
When the bridges are done, will #98 run more often? Also, what railroad did she orriginally operate on? And I must say I like here paint scheem a lot better now then what it was in the 90's.
 
-Colin


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« Reply #1 on: Aug 11th, 2005, 11:30am »
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#98 was originally built for the Mississippi Central Railroad. There was a sister to 98, #99. Both were ALCO's built in 1909.
 
Eventually after toting former Reading Company wood passenger equipment around, 98 was purchase by Paulsen Spence and operated on several of his southern shortline railroads, including the Comite Southern (pronounced Co-meet) then the Louisiana Eastern. Amazingly, he used the 98 in freight service and was often seen hauling loaded stone cars over the 3 mile short line....although about 5 was the max. 98 did operate on some of their private passenger trains and they did even offer Public Excursions that were free, over the line.
 
After Spence's death, the 98 was purchased from his estate by Tom Marshall and his father Clarence. It was move to SRR for storage and was to operate there, but issues with boiler repairs done by the Lo. E. and C.S. and no paperwork for those repairs prevented that. 98 was put into service in 1972 shortly after 92 went out of service. (98 was one of only 5 steam locomotives to survive from Spence's collection of over 30 steamers...the R&N/BM&R #425 was also saved along with another 4-4-0 and 2-6-2 that are now on Stone Mt Scenic Railway)
 
98 is one of I believe 3 MCRR steamers to remain in existance....the other two are 2-8-2's  #99 didn't fare as well and was scrapped at some point although I am not certain as to when or where.
 
There is more info around, and I will try to post it when I find it. The above is just from memory.
 
I agree the paint scheme now is better....at least if they have finished the striping. The scheme of the 1992 out shopping was meant to be what was on the 98 when she was delivered from ALCO to the MCRR....and it was very close, but the MCRR changed the scheme shortly after arrival. Also, the dedication on the cab to Thomas C Marshall was meant as a kind gesture, but seeing as how Tom is still alive, I think he looked at that a little oddly....usually saved for deceased persons.
 
At some point, it was decided to whitewall the tires and running boards which was nice seeing as how the 1990's paint scheme was very dark.... then after the tire came off the pony truck at Ashland, repairs were done and  the tires were painted black....I personally repainted the running board and piolet white myself just before a Railfan trip in the spring of 1997 and it held that scheme till the rebuild.


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« Reply #2 on: Aug 11th, 2005, 1:44pm »
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Ok thanks!  Yeah the paint scheem now ROCKS! It's just like 58's, only with more stipes which makes it look cooler.  I love #98 and would love to see her run further when all or more of the bridges get done.
 
Thanks for the info
 
-Colin


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« Reply #3 on: Aug 11th, 2005, 7:02pm »
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I wasn't too fond of #98's "Number on the tender" scheme... her current scheme looks very nice!  

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« Reply #4 on: Aug 22nd, 2005, 12:07pm »
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Anyone know how much tractive effort #98 has?

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« Reply #5 on: Aug 22nd, 2005, 5:14pm »
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22,000 lbs.

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« Reply #6 on: Aug 22nd, 2005, 5:54pm »
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Ok! Thanks a lot NHIWW!
 
-Colin


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« Reply #7 on: Sep 15th, 2005, 6:50pm »
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Since we're talking about 98 here, why not shout out ideas. IMO, I think that since 98 is an AMERICAN type locomotive, then why not give it AMERICAN flags?! It fits the the engine that help create AMERICA'S railroad system.

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« Reply #8 on: Sep 17th, 2005, 1:48pm »
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Uhm...yeah....ok...are we takling flying the American flags on the head end or painted on?
 
They can, have and do fly them or white ones on the front of their locos.


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« Reply #9 on: Apr 15th, 2006, 11:41am »
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I found this photo at www.steamlocomotive.info I think ALL of you will find interesting.

Tom Gears Photo.


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Re: Engine Discussion: #98
 
« Reply #10 on: Apr 20th, 2006, 1:45pm »
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I'm wonderin' which engine they will send there this September?
 
I read in Railpace that once again, the Amtrak Wilmington Station will undergo renovations....W&W has been sending Steam over there since the last renovations were completed in the 1980's. It's the only time you'll see steam running on the Northeast Corridor.....albit only a mile or so, but it counts!.
 
98 ran on the Wizards train in early April...anyone down there to get photos?
 
I believe they are nearing completion of the Brandywine Springs Trestle....should be operating to the back 9 of the Hercules Country Club soon.  R.E. Pierson Co. of Woodbury NJ, has started the work on the Hercules and Wooddale E & W Bridges. The Drill rig being used for the new bridge pier supports was purchased in Germany and sent over in March for use on the W&W projects.


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« Reply #11 on: Apr 20th, 2006, 5:38pm »
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Woah, I'm gunna try and go to that! Which days do they plan on going?


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« Reply #12 on: Apr 20th, 2006, 6:38pm »
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on Apr 20th, 2006, 1:45pm, NHIWW wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I'm wonderin' which engine they will send there this September?
 
I read in Railpace that once again, the Amtrak Wilmington Station will undergo renovations....W&W has been sending Steam over there since the last renovations were completed in the 1980's. It's the only time you'll see steam running on the Northeast Corridor.....albit only a mile or so, but it counts!.
 
98 ran on the Wizards train in early April...anyone down there to get photos?
 
I believe they are nearing completion of the Brandywine Springs Trestle....should be operating to the back 9 of the Hercules Country Club soon.  R.E. Pierson Co. of Woodbury NJ, has started the work on the Hercules and Wooddale E & W Bridges. The Drill rig being used for the new bridge pier supports was purchased in Germany and sent over in March for use on the W&W projects.

Awesome! How many miles are they currently going beyond the station as of now?


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Re: Engine Discussion: #98
 
« Reply #13 on: Apr 26th, 2006, 3:05am »
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on Apr 20th, 2006, 6:38pm, WMSR_734 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Awesome! How many miles are they currently going beyond the station as of now?

 
On April 25th, a test train was operated past Brandywine Springs park over bridge 6G after the school trains were done for the day.  So it looks like the operations are now going to Hercules 2.8 miles from the interchange. For more info on the progressive rebuild and how each bridge relates to added mileage, please see my "Mileage....Since everyone is asking" post on this thread.
 


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Re: Engine Discussion: #98 Dedication?
 
« Reply #14 on: Sep 17th, 2008, 9:16pm »
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I remember hearing that this year for the Veteran's Day celebration, that #98 will be celebrating its 100th birthday along with the Veterans Day train excursions/ceremonies. Any W&W volunteer wanna confirm this? I'd love to cover the event much like I did last year, only with 98 getting dedicated.
 
Thanks!
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« Reply #15 on: Mar 2nd, 2009, 9:56pm »
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Check out what I found.

http://Forums.Railfan.net/Images/WWRR/98.jpg
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 2nd, 2009, 11:42pm »
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Thats real nice, did you find that on the web or do you have a hard copy, and if so what size?

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« Reply #17 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 1:22pm »
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That is GREAT    It would look good on the state quarter.
 
BTW....I saw online today that the W&W did indded get the most votes for the state quarter....And it....along with the two runners up...(One was the old state house) will be sent to the MINT....and that the MINT will decide the final winner!!!
 
 
We may have to GET on the mint!!!!!!!!!


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on Mar 2nd, 2009, 11:42pm, PENNSY_BOcabeese wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thats real nice, did you find that on the web or do you have a hard copy, and if so what size?

 
I found it online. Can anyone guess where it was taken/painted from.


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« Reply #19 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 3:28pm »
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The Octoraro, in Chester County

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