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B & H  pulling up rails in Hammondsport
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« on: Oct 30th, 2013, 10:33pm »
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FYI
 
A number of the Town of Urbana meeting minutes this  summer have referenced the following project .   http://www.townofurbana.com/bdmeeting08-20-13.pdf
 
 ""The TEP Grant, if funded, will be used for trail development from the Curtiss Museum to the RR tracks. The County will still remove the tracks and clear the right away from Main St. to Pleasant Valley.""
 
TEP project/grant update …………………………. Chuck Peacock, SCIDA
Chuck Peacock of SCIDA explained that the cost estimates came in much higher than expected (@ 1.5 million) and that SCIDA decided to reduce the TEP application to the trail from Cold Brook to the Curtiss Museum, The project consists of board walk and stone dust trail and is estimated to cost @$380,000 with @80,000 match that would be covered by County’s rail clearing work. The application is to be submitted Friday 8/16 with winners announced Dec 13th.
 
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 31st, 2013, 7:38pm »
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It's sad to see the rails go... but I guess it was inevitable given the lack of freight customers in my hometown. I hope the museum will add a small section to commemorate the RR.

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« Reply #2 on: Nov 3rd, 2013, 9:36am »
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Matthew,  this is probably the worst railroad news you've gotten.  It's a sad day when they pull tracks, close a section of railroad that is actually the lines namesake.  I saw the same happen with the WAG in the 70's.  The problem is the lack of companies building shipible merchandise in NY.  Making profit in America shouldn't be an impossibility.

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« Reply #3 on: Nov 3rd, 2013, 11:21am »
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WAG ran thru my back yard in Galeton, just across pine creek on the Wellsville line. Sadly I was in the service of Uncle Sam from 1967 to 1971 and missed the final years and downfall of my home RR. In grade school the classrooms faced toward the RR and the Sunnydale milk plant where the big Centercabs would stop and switch a car of coal for the plant boiler or boxcar of powdered milk being shipped out. I remember the teacher telling me to focus on the class cause I could watch that "old train" anytime. Huh! Little did she know! Yeah, I know what it feels like.

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« Reply #4 on: Nov 3rd, 2013, 9:17pm »
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on Nov 3rd, 2013, 9:36am, railwatcher wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Matthew,  this is probably the worst railroad news you've gotten.  It's a sad day when they pull tracks, close a section of railroad that is actually the lines namesake.

 
It's heartbreaking. The original B&H mainline kept me interested in trains and really taught me alot about RR operations when I was a kid. I had hoped that someone with deep pockets would come in and set up an excursion operation there, but I guess that dream is over.  


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« Reply #5 on: Nov 4th, 2013, 11:41am »
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Will the rails still be in place at the Mercury/Great Western facility?

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« Reply #6 on: Nov 4th, 2013, 12:32pm »
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Yes

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« Reply #7 on: Nov 6th, 2013, 7:44pm »
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Matthew,
 
In regards to the B & H ,  when we started going to Keuka in ' 95  the Champagne Excursions I believe were still being held, but going to Cohocton and back? I picked up a few tickets for that program  at " Turks'  one time - he had a whole  box of unused tickets!.
Did those ever go from Bath to Hammondsport?  then  the Keuka  Maid ran up till just a few years ago, NEVER took that  cruise, although by that time we had a cottage on the lake and i would  ring my school bell as they'd pass.
One of those things thinking will always be there.
 
Did the same individual initially run both the Excursion train AND the  Maid?
 
thanks  Mark


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« Reply #8 on: Nov 6th, 2013, 8:41pm »
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Yes, the Champagne RR excursions and the Keuka Maid were the brainchildren of the late Stan Clark. He was a visionary. When excursions started in 1993, they alternated between Bath-Cohocton and Bath-Rheims. Insofar as I know, excursions never ran to Hammondsport in the 1990s.  
 
When Clark had the Keuka Maid built in 1988, he openly stated that he wanted to dock it at "the head of the lake" ...which was the stretch of beachfront that included the B&H RR yard. The plan even referenced an eventual excursion train to link to the boat. I was excited to came home from college in 1990 and find the excursion coaches sitting in the yard... but alas, my dream was never fulfilled.  
 
The Keuka Maid went to the scrapper earlier this year, and the rails in H'port will soon follow.  
 
One more thing- the plan for a trail has nothing to do with the current B&H operation at all. They couldn't run to the head of the lake even if they wanted to. I wish them all the best, and look forward to seeing the southern end of the line revived in Bath.


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« Reply #9 on: Apr 4th, 2016, 8:59pm »
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The tiial work has begun south of Main Street. Brush has been cleared off the ROW and the rails been lifted.  The ties remain for now:  
 

 
 
 

 
 
 

 
All photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 3/26/2016 in Hammondsport, NY.


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« Reply #10 on: Apr 8th, 2016, 9:16pm »
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I'm going to Elmira tomorrow. I may stop and check it out.


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« Reply #11 on: May 3rd, 2016, 1:47pm »
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My pics from Sunday, April 24.
 
The Rt. 54A crossing in Hammondsport looking west.


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« Reply #12 on: May 3rd, 2016, 1:51pm »
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My pics from Sunday, April 24.
 
The Rt. 54A crossing in Hammondsport looking east. These tracks led to the enginehouse


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« Reply #13 on: May 3rd, 2016, 7:23pm »
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A piece of my childhood is gone.

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on May 3rd, 2016, 7:23pm, Matthew_L wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A piece of my childhood is gone.

I very much understand. 58 years ago when school ended for summer almost daily I would be hiking the WAG RR with my dog, .22 rifle and my Brownie Hawkeye camera. This went on for the next 8 years (and lots of double exposures and blurred pics) until I graduated and joined the Navy but would re- visit the WAG when on leave. They ripped up the Wellsville end shortly after hurricane Agnes and the whole RR was gone soon after. At least we both can look at two engines that we knew on their home rails.For me one is in California restored back to Western Pacific #805A FP7 and the other, my favorite, Wag #1700 in a museum in North East Pa. which sadly I believe will never operate again. Not long ago the man in charge of keeping the old GE's running visited me and we agreed to make the trip to North East Pa. and have a good look at our old friend #1700. That's going to happen soon


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« Reply #15 on: May 3rd, 2016, 9:31pm »
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My pics from Sunday, April 24.
 
The empty B&H enginehouse


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My pics from Sunday, April 24.
 
Let's move on to the winery that the B&H used to serve.
 
I was very glad the tracks were all still in place!!


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My pics from Sunday, April 24.
 
Let's move on to the winery that the B&H used to serve.
 
I was very glad the tracks were all still in place!!
 
A couple of spurs here have been torn up.


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« Reply #18 on: May 3rd, 2016, 9:36pm »
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My pics from Sunday, April 24.
 
Let's move on to the winery that the B&H used to serve.
 
I was very glad the tracks were all still in place!!
 
This is the Pleasant Valley road crossing looking east.


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My pics from Sunday, April 24.  
 
 
This is the Pleasant Valley road crossing looking west.  
 
Can't the B&H keeps these tracks clear? Once a year send a m.o.w. truck down the line to inspect the line?


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