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roc
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« Reply #40 on: Jun 19th, 2013, 10:39pm »
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George Elwood posted a pair Kermit Geary Jr pics of interest:
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-w/wnyp417kga.jpg
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-w/wnyp433kga.jpg
 
Looks like 433's about to get painted and 417, alas, is looking like a carcass.


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scottychaos
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« Reply #41 on: Jun 20th, 2013, 2:15pm »
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Thanks for the new pics!  
417 looks fine to me..It has looked exactly like that for the past 15 years!
(it never operated much in Owego)
It doesnt look like parts are being removed, so its probably just waiting for its turn in the shop..
 
Various sources say 416 over on the B&H is now in full LAL colors, lettered for the B&H, and out on the road..been that way for awhile, but no photos on-line yet!
 
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« Reply #42 on: Jun 21st, 2013, 1:38pm »
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Not sure if this link will work if you aren't on Facebook..
but John LeBaron just posted this photo of 416:
 
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1048038_10201378658052877_1893982993_o.jpg
 
From:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/CorningNYRailfans/
 
Scot


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RSPerry
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« Reply #43 on: Jun 21st, 2013, 10:59pm »
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Rocky at Dresser Rand...rsp

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RSPerry
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« Reply #44 on: Jun 21st, 2013, 11:00pm »
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BH0621 west at Curtis.....rsp

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RSPerry
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« Reply #45 on: Jun 21st, 2013, 11:09pm »
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BH0621 at the site of the former Campbell, NY station....rsp

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« Reply #46 on: Jun 22nd, 2013, 8:01am »
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on Jun 21st, 2013, 1:38pm, scottychaos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Not sure if this link will work if you aren't on Facebook..
but John LeBaron just posted this photo of 416:
 
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1048038_10201378658052877_1893982993_o.jpg
 
From:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/CorningNYRailfans/
 
Scot

John LeBaron had a couple of action videos including 416 & 424 further down the blog.   416 sure looks a lot better than when it arrived on property.  Hopeful now that 417 gets the same TLC.


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roc
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« Reply #47 on: Jun 22nd, 2013, 2:00pm »
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Here's a direct link to the clip.
 
http://www.youtube.com/embed/hioybsTph00
 
Does anyone know how to use the Flash video embed tool on this forum? Probably so simple a child can do it. Alas…


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railwatcher
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« Reply #48 on: Jun 23rd, 2013, 9:17am »
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My last post was from my phone, Roc.  And there was more than one to see, hence the link.

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roc
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« Reply #49 on: Jun 23rd, 2013, 1:45pm »
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Wasn't directed at you at all. Put up the link to be helpful, just 'cause.
 
It was an actual question -- does anyone know how to use you the tool? It appears to be simple, but this 30 years past his sell by child doesn't get it…


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centercab
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« Reply #50 on: Jun 24th, 2013, 9:06am »
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I knew sooner or later our Mr. Perry would come thru with some of his good camera work and the B&H is his specialty. Nice clear well planned shots!
Appeared to my eyes that Rocky does not stand quite as tall as his stablemate. Were the RS models made before, during or after the Century series?


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« Reply #51 on: Jun 24th, 2013, 9:51am »
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on Jun 24th, 2013, 9:06am, centercab wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I knew sooner or later our Mr. Perry would come thru with some of his good camera work and the B&H is his specialty. Nice clear well planned shots!
Appeared to my eyes that Rocky does not stand quite as tall as his stablemate. Were the RS models made before, during or after the Century series?

 
Its not really supposed to stand as tall as a Century, because its a "smaller series"..
The Centuries were the "full size" road power, while the RS's are slightly smaller, slightly less powerful units.
 
These MLW RS18's were made in Canada from 1956 to 1968, which was slightly before, then overlapped with most of the Century series, which was made in Schenectady and Canada from 1963 to 1969, then after Alco ceased production in Schenectady in 1969, production continued in Canada until 1972. Technically a Century only gets the "M" if it was made after 1969 in Canada..If it was before 1969, a C630 (for example) was a C630 if it was made in the US or Canada..it was a "C" in both places..It became a M630 if was made after US production ceased in 1969..
 
Alco Schenectady stopped making RS-units in 1963, then only made Centuries..
(and the T6 switcher)
while MLW in Canada continued making the smaller RS-units until '68.
CN and CP must have still wanted them, probably for branch-line service..
 
Scot


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« Reply #52 on: Jun 24th, 2013, 3:43pm »
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Wow, 416 is drop dead gorgeous. Love the bell, it really stands out. Makes me want to take a trip out to the finger lakes...

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« Reply #53 on: Jun 24th, 2013, 8:54pm »
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The power of today's BH0624....rsp

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As far as I know, the Erie-Lackawanna never owned or ran their own steam engines. However, this BH0624 departing Painted Post, NY, with former EL C424m 423 running long nose forward with newly B&H painted 416 (a MLW RS18u,) comes as close as I can remember. It was quite a sight, and even better to hear.  Also thanks centercab and also to you Scot for your valuable information, as usual....rsp

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Speaks for itself....rsp

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« Reply #56 on: Jun 24th, 2013, 9:14pm »
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Nice shots Richard.  I would love to get down there to visit these but your pictures have kept us up to date with the happenings on the B & H!  Thanks for sharing!

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RSPerry
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« Reply #57 on: Jun 24th, 2013, 9:42pm »
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Thanks you very much, and it is indeed my pleasure.  It is a labor of love.  One needs a mission....rsp

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« Reply #58 on: Jun 24th, 2013, 10:01pm »
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Excellent shot, Richard.......I can almost hear them and smell that ALCo smoke from here!  
 
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« Reply #59 on: Jun 24th, 2013, 10:01pm »
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on Jun 24th, 2013, 9:51am, scottychaos wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Its not really supposed to stand as tall as a Century, because its a "smaller series"..
The Centuries were the "full size" road power, while the RS's are slightly smaller, slightly less powerful units.
 
These MLW RS18's were made in Canada from 1956 to 1968, which was slightly before, then overlapped with most of the Century series, which was made in Schenectady and Canada from 1963 to 1969, then after Alco ceased production in Schenectady in 1969, production continued in Canada until 1972. Technically a Century only gets the "M" if it was made after 1969 in Canada..If it was before 1969, a C630 (for example) was a C630 if it was made in the US or Canada..it was a "C" in both places..It became a M630 if was made after US production ceased in 1969..
 
Alco Schenectady stopped making RS-units in 1963, then only made Centuries..
(and the T6 switcher)
while MLW in Canada continued making the smaller RS-units until '68.
CN and CP must have still wanted them, probably for branch-line service..
 
Scot

Thanks for the info Scot. For some reason the RS designation did not ring a bell. I remember in ancient dieseldom the RS-3 which was road-switcher. Alco apparently retained that name thru the years.


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