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Darren
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Renaissance Trains
 
« on: Jan 10th, 2005, 8:09pm »
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Just came back from a trip to Quebec City on Via’s Renaissance Trains.  It’s a nice
run to and from Quebec City.  I enjoyed riding the Renaissance equipment even on
my homebound trip on 51, but found that there’s a lot of discomforts with the
renaissance equipment in general.  Talking to a lot of people and even Via
employee’s, they feel the same way.   For those who have ridden the Renaissance
trains, what is your comment on them.   And how is Via handling the complaints
that are constantly being made towards the Renaissance equipment?
 
Darren.


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Darren
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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #1 on: Jan 10th, 2005, 8:12pm »
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Sorry bout the double posting there,   Was having some problems with my computer.
 
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George_Harris
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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #2 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 5:05am »
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Since I haven't a clue what you are talking about, please bear with me on a few dumb questions.
 
Presumably Rennaisance Equipment is some new passenger equipment that VIA has put in service.  Can you tell the ignorant something about it.
 
Apparently it has some problems.  What are the main ones?  Are they reliability, amenities and what type, such as seat spacing / shape / reclining, etc.; AC / heat / ventilation / toilets, food service, ride quality, noise, etc., etc.,
 
Thanks,
 
George


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Darren
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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #3 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 9:08pm »
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The Key problems with the renaissance equipment that I found were as follows.    
 
1.     Seating - Seating is confortable but leg room is limited.   There is little overhead baggage space,  only enough room for a jacket.  Backpacks or small bags are supposed to go under the seat,  however again space is limited.   The general lighting system in the coaches is good.  At night passengers are able to see out the windows but overhead lights can be turned on.  
 
2.     Rooms - Rooms are good for one person but with two persons sharing one room, space is very limited.  The upper berth is confortable, but the lower is not.  The bed is narrow and does not have enough padding for a comfortable nights rest.  The bathroom in the room is decent for its size.  However, at night, the light in the bathroom can not be turned off.  The showers are avilable in some rooms, however the water pressure is low.   Daytime seating in the rooms are comfortable and roomy.  
 
3.    Public washrooms - The washrooms are small and tight compared to the lrc's and the hep's.  Very limited space.  Water pressure from the tap is also very limited.  
 
4.    Service cars - The seats in the service car are hard and uncomfortable.  Tables are small and seating is limited for busy trains.  The positive with the service car is that you have the take out counter.  
 
5.   Ride quality - The rennaissance cars ride very smoothly and the natural noise level is low.  Somthing that many passengers appreciate.  
 
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George_Harris
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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #4 on: Jan 12th, 2005, 10:37am »
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Thanks.
GH


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prorail
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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #5 on: Jan 12th, 2005, 7:55pm »
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on Jan 12th, 2005, 10:37am, George_Harris wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks.
GH
To bad the liberal government reneged on its promises of increased frequencies for Via Rail. It looks like after all the big splash there won't be any additional trains, renaissance or otherwise to ride. So what else is new?


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Operations_Manager
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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #6 on: Oct 2nd, 2005, 7:18pm »
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The last set of equipment was used on the last Via 51, now sits forlorn on the north side of TMC, with most of the doors on the cars, being left partly open.

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Darren
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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #7 on: Oct 3rd, 2005, 12:06am »
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The old enterprise renaissance consist has been there since the discontinuance of the Enterprise.   Any idea what Via is going to do with the spare consist?
 
With regards to equipmemt rotation,  I think Via should spred the Renaissance equipment through out the corridor network and should be utilized on the following Trains.
 
Montreal - Toronto - Windsor on Via trains 61 & 79
Windsor - Toronto - Montreal on Via trains 72 & 64
 
Montreal - Ottawa - Toronto - Sarnia on Via trains  31/631, 45 & 87
Sarnia - Toronto - Ottawa - Montreal on Via trains  84, 44 & 38
 
Although 4 trainsets would be required, 2 trainsets could be taken off the Montreal -Quebec route replaced with lrc train sets.  The other 2 train sets would come from the former Enterprise with the sleepers being repalced with ren coaches and club.  All trains would include a baggage car for passenger use.  
 
Via 42 should also be replaced with 44 on Saturdays to allow this schedule to work.  
 
Darren
 
 
 


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joncalon
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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #8 on: Oct 3rd, 2005, 12:57am »
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on Oct 3rd, 2005, 12:06am, Darren wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The old enterprise renaissance consist has been there since the discontinuance of the Enterprise.   Any idea what Via is going to do with the spare consist?

 
I still believe that putting one of the Chaleur runs behind Ren equipment would be a good idea.  Does anyone have a typical consist that goes from Matapedia to Chaleur?
 
Otherwise, they'll probably replace one of the LRC sets between Ottawa and Montreal with what's left over.  I know the MMC wants to keep the Ren sets being maintained in Montreal due to the vast differences between how the Ren sets and the others (LRC's and HEP cars) are maintained.
 
Darren, are those runs you mentioned able to go all the way between their destinations and make it back to Montreal on a thrice-weekly schedule (matching the Enterprise)?
 
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Darren
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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #9 on: Oct 3rd, 2005, 12:03pm »
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yes,  They would all be run through trains simmilar to Via's 57-75, 70-60.
 
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NBECMich
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 27th, 2006, 9:35am »
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Saw they Ocean today, Hep car consist, so yes it's still not completely replace by de renaissance car.
 
But a Notice at the end of the train there was 3 dome car the one normaly use right after the coach, and 2 Renaissance coach car in last unusual coupler there some pic for your guys



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« Reply #11 on: Jan 27th, 2006, 9:41am »
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The dome car picture


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« Reply #12 on: Jan 27th, 2006, 9:44am »
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« Reply #13 on: Jan 27th, 2006, 9:50am »
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And that other weird coupler at the back of the renaissance train. I also make small video today to bad can not expose it' oh this site  and more picture if want to see more
 
 
Bi the way someone nose, wy those car are going to moncton or Halifax they do not seen damaged exep for the frozen door oh the renaissance partly open



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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #14 on: Jan 23rd, 2008, 1:42am »
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With the Addition of the two new runs out of Ottawa/Montreal on January 14th 2008.
There is a Renasance Consist on trains 634/635 Monday to Sat Only  
(Subject to change) leaveing Ottawa at 13:00 And Montreal at 13:05  
 
on Oct 3rd, 2005, 12:06am, Darren wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The old enterprise renaissance consist has been there since the discontinuance of the Enterprise.   Any idea what Via is going to do with the spare consist?
 
With regards to equipmemt rotation,  I think Via should spred the Renaissance equipment through out the corridor network and should be utilized on the following Trains.
 
Montreal - Toronto - Windsor on Via trains 61 & 79
Windsor - Toronto - Montreal on Via trains 72 & 64
 
Montreal - Ottawa - Toronto - Sarnia on Via trains  31/631, 45 & 87
Sarnia - Toronto - Ottawa - Montreal on Via trains  84, 44 & 38
 
Although 4 trainsets would be required, 2 trainsets could be taken off the Montreal -Quebec route replaced with lrc train sets.  The other 2 train sets would come from the former Enterprise with the sleepers being repalced with ren coaches and club.  All trains would include a baggage car for passenger use.  
 
Via 42 should also be replaced with 44 on Saturdays to allow this schedule to work.  
 
Darren
 
 
 



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Re: Renaissance Trains
 
« Reply #15 on: Sep 30th, 2010, 5:26pm »
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The Renaissance coach cars went through modification at Industrial Rail Service Inc. located in Moncton, N.B. Canada.  The interiors were redesigned, all new seats,new washrooms ,large overhead storage units installed. New heating units etc.  They looked very good.  As far as I know the work has been completed and the cars are back in service somewhere on Via's vast network.

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