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(Message started by: SRY 110 on May 29th, 2012, 1:31pm)

Title: E+N Track Work
Post by SRY 110 on May 29th, 2012, 1:31pm
HI there, since there will be a substantial amount of work being done over the next year or so, I thought I would start this thread to post pictures, document the work being done, work trains, and progress.

This is not a tread to talk about where the work should start or how the funds will be spent or complaining about this and that ^Y^..There is already a spot for that here! NO need for more!..Just positive information to pass on to all of us to show case the rebuilding of a great railway!  ;D

Keep it to the point, post pics, and track the progress!

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Jun 1st, 2012, 2:14pm
More focus on the positive . . . less on the negative
I couldn't have said it better myself, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Let's start with this panoramic view from the Langford announcement.


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Sep 12th, 2012, 6:58pm
New crossing going in at Nanaimo River Road


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Sep 12th, 2012, 6:59pm
Highrailer just up the tracks

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Maxvw on Sep 17th, 2012, 5:49pm
I basically never post but I always keep an eye on the line. I live right next to the tracks in Saltair. I went for a walk down the tracks a few nights ago and there is a lot of spray paint on the tracks marking various things

one of the most common ones is that quite a few of the connecting joints between the two rails are painted white. there are also some larger sections of rail painted orange

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by CPRail4744 on Sep 17th, 2012, 10:51pm
Thanks for keeping watch on your section of the tracks, Maxvw
I would presume ties to replace and perhaps actual rail to replace as well, or realign.


"...vw"
Anything to do with Volkswagen???

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Maxvw on Sep 18th, 2012, 12:24am
Yep im a vw nut, I built a 92 GTI with a turbocharged v5 ( yes there is a such thing as a v5 lol )

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by CPRail4744 on Sep 18th, 2012, 1:34am
Very cool.   I learned to drive on a '71 transporter.  Four on the floor, 1600 cc engine.  I managed to get it up to 70 miles an hour once :o   My dad changed the single exhaust to the dual pipes like a Bug, and it sounded like one too.
Whole different class of vw than your's I realise  :P

Sorry Moderator, off topic, I know...

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Maxvw on Sep 18th, 2012, 11:51am
haha yep they are a whole different class one day i will get a westfailia for camping!


back on topic now:

I will keep you guys informed if anything odd rolls past my house..

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Coastrail on Sep 21st, 2012, 2:47pm
I was told that there is a pile of ties near Atkins Rd that were taken from the Johnson St Bridge. I wonder if there are going to be reused.  Will try to take a look today.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cobblehillian on Sep 23rd, 2012, 4:24pm
What Do the Paint Marks Mean.

I took a walk last night on the tracks in the Duncan station area to determine what the paint codes meant.

The white paint at the track joint bars signifies that the bolts are all facing one way.  i.e. the bolt heads are on the inside of the rail and the nuts are on the outside of the rail.  It was a CPR practice, of English heritage, ended sometime in the 50's or 60's.  I assume that Transport Canada (or its predecessor),or perhaps, the CPR itself mandated the change in practice to alternating heads and nuts  inside and outside.  A four bolt joint plate would thus go bolt inside/bolt outside/bolt inside/bolt outside.

The reason for doing this is safety.  If one or more wheelsets becomes derailed it is thought that there is a lesser chance of a wheel flange breaking off all of the more protruded nut ends of the bolts thus destroying the integrity of the rail, thereby causing further damage than just derailment.  The rails could separate and cars would more likely tip, or stray further from the track alignment.  With two of the less protruding bolt heads on the outside of the rail there is a greater likelihood that the rails will stay bolted together.

This bolt placement practice is enhanced by having the joint position on the opposite rail staggered.  i.e. rail joints are purposely not adjacent to each other.  The placement of joints adjacent to one another was common in the UK .  I'm told this was also CPR practice but I'm not sure when it ended.  In any case it was ended long before alternating joint bar bolt placement.

As a general comment the CPR was often a North American "loner" with track structure practices more similar to the UK than other North American roads.  I'm not sure if CPR ever had left hand running in the early days.  The only other notable case was of the Chicago and Northwestern which was still operating that way when merged with UP.  The CNW's, left hand track running was, however, not from the British practice but rather from station building placement and for some other obscure reasons.

The CPR was also 'out of the loop' when it came to the dimensions of its 85# rail, the predominant type on the E&N.  This was not unique, several other railways had non-standard designs.

I haven't had a chance to examine the rails with the orange blazes but would assume they are to be replaced or require welding to build up the ends.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Brakeman302 on Sep 23rd, 2012, 5:05pm
The painted bars are the old style "toe" bars. They are going to be replaced with "splice" bars. I imagine that it is easier to count them when they are painted. Part of the government upgrade. If it ever happends. That's just my guess.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cobblehillian on Sep 23rd, 2012, 10:30pm
Further comments on white blazed rail joints.

I spent some time walking the rails tonight and made some further discoveries.

The white blazed joint bars are of the short toe type with all bolt heads inside the rail.  Unmarked joints have plain splice bars  (no toes) and alternating bolt heads in/ bolt heads out.  My hunch is that they will, for reasons of economy, merely alternate the bolts on the blazed joints and replace the unmarked bars with the short toe type.  This would bring about uniformity on the whole line.  If they were to go to the full toe type bar there would be no need to mark any joints because all the bars would require replacement.

For reasons of brevity I left out of my discussion on unique CPR rail practice that unlike all other standard and non standard 85# rail in North America CPR  used  slightly different bolt hole positions.








Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cobblehillian on Sep 24th, 2012, 3:33pm
If Mr Brakeman is correct and SRY wants to install toeless splice bars there goes $1.5 million, give or take, of the $15 million track budget.  I'll provide the arithmetic if requested.

With replacement of 25% of ties, 10 % of rail, plus various track accessories such as spikes, anchors, tie plates etc., plus mobilization and labour costs I don't see how the work can be done within the budget.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Brakeman302 on Sep 24th, 2012, 3:47pm
I believe to bring it up to proper track standards to run the speeds they need for a future passenger car the toe bars  have to be replaced. I am just speculating on this. The old toe bars require a special plates. Most of the toe bars joints I have seen do not have these plates.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Maxvw on Oct 4th, 2012, 6:23pm
I was in Vic last night and noticed some bundles of new ties placed by the tracks along atkins Ave right across from the police station, has anyone seen these before?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Polar on Oct 5th, 2012, 12:53am
Those are not new ties.  They are from the johnston street bridge.  Have been there since the rail portion was taken down.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by capt on Oct 11th, 2012, 4:23pm
Finally action on the north end. a refreshed crossing in union bay on Mckay road.they installed a new the crossing using 125 lb rail that joined the 85 lb rail.the crew was heading up to mile 132 to even and repair track that was up set by construction of a new subdivision

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Firejackel on Oct 12th, 2012, 12:18pm
Are all the ties used Concrete? This is great to see :)

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Maxvw on Oct 12th, 2012, 4:58pm
Are they upgrading the road or something? Just trying to figure why they are randomly upgrading crossings

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Polar on Oct 12th, 2012, 6:15pm

on 10/12/12 at 12:18:40, Firejackel wrote:
Are all the ties used Concrete? This is great to see :)


They are wood ties. Not concrete.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Firejackel on Oct 12th, 2012, 6:25pm
My bad :) They looked like concrete but taking another look i see i was mistaken.

Cheers,
John

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by capt on Oct 12th, 2012, 8:41pm
according to the rail crew ,the crossing in union bay was paid for by the ministry of highways and most of the crossings being upgraded are paid for by either the citys or reginal districts, and the railway is paid for this service. since the railway was there before most of the roads the citys ect are responsible to maintain the crossings.that explains why it is such a hog podge of work up and down the line.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by George_Harris on Oct 13th, 2012, 4:31am

on 10/11/12 at 16:23:57, capt wrote:
Finally action on the north end. a refreshed crossing in union bay on Mckay road.they installed a new the crossing using 125 lb rail that joined the 85 lb rail.the crew was heading up to mile 132 to even and repair track that was up set by construction of a new subdivision

I would suspect that the rail section is 115 lb/yd.  There is no current 125 lb/yd section.  

Yes, the ties are wood.  You can see the tie plates on them.

Very interesting flangeway filler.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by capt on Oct 13th, 2012, 11:12pm
i stand corrected i looked at the rail and it is 115 lb

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Oct 19th, 2012, 1:02pm
I sent my E&N funding support letter today as suggested by ICF BoD.
Here's the comma delineated list used to setup a Shaw.mail email Group: ssantarossa@crd.bc.ca, administration@comoxvalleyrd.ca, cvrd@cvrd.bc.ca, corpsrv@rdn.bc.ca, stanhope@rdn.bc.ca, mayor@qualicumbeach.com, nanaimo@jameslunneymp.ca, islandrail@shaw.ca, mailbox@acrd.bc.ca,
These emails were taken from the email list provided by ICF. Posted here for those interested (others may ignore). Logic dictates without money no rail upgrades will be completed.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Speeder on Oct 19th, 2012, 5:23pm
I sent mine off (last week) to the CRD.




Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by railpuck on Oct 31st, 2012, 3:41pm
I noticed a bunch of SVI trucks, and a Gradall brush cutter heading south into Duncan area yesterday,anyone know whats up.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Oct 31st, 2012, 9:59pm
saw the 2 bigger high rails headed north to Nanaimo on the highway this afternoon - so they are working on something i guess down that way.

Also i noticed a large piece of rail that has been dropped off just south of the Waddington Road crossing in Nanaimo

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Brakeman302 on Nov 1st, 2012, 12:34am
I heard Esquimalt siding is being pulled up to make way for the trailway. :-[

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by railpuck on Nov 1st, 2012, 9:50pm
[quote author=Brakeman302 link=board=Vancouver;num=1338312686;start=20#29 date=11/01/12 at 00:34:57]I heard Esquimalt siding is being pulled up to make way for the trailway. :-[/quote]

The rails have been lifted, only the south switch remains.
Funny how the trails seem to get priority but the railway remains in limbo.
I have also heard the ICF gets no revenue from the trails from their use on the rail corridor.
Questions should be raised why the siding was pulled,and who made the decisions to approve the removal.  ^Y^

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by vicguy on Nov 1st, 2012, 9:52pm
Stopped by the Esquimalt siding on my way home from work today to have a look, unfortunately only the south switch remains and I'm sure it'll be gone next. I don't know why they had to remove the whole siding as the bike path already went around it.

Here's some crappy cell phone pics:
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k344/vicguy/photo1.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k344/vicguy/photo8.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k344/vicguy/photo2.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k344/vicguy/photo4.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k344/vicguy/photo6.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k344/vicguy/photo5.jpg


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Garrett_Owner on Nov 1st, 2012, 11:36pm
One of the strongest lobby groups in BC and they continually get their own way and usually on the backs of the taxpayer. They want to share the road without sharing a single dime of the costs. The ICF is being sold down the tubes by some and they think they are doing the proper thing.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Jamie_Masters on Nov 2nd, 2012, 1:29am
The E&N Intercity Rail Pilot Assesment prepared by the ICF and BC Transit specifically mentioned Esqimalt siding as being required for efficient movement of commuter trains. So what the hell is going on if on one hand we are told of the E&N's glowing potential as a people mover and on the other, they rip out a supposedly important passing siding ? My confidence in the E&N's leadership ebbs and flows at the best of times and right now, its low tide.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Polar on Nov 2nd, 2012, 9:30am
Rumor has it they will be putting a siding somewhere between Lampson st and Wilson st for passing.  I believe there use to be one there.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Nov 2nd, 2012, 1:19pm
Wasnt the North switch already removed in 2010 when the bridge was replaced at the North end of the siding?  

Considering a couple RDCs only need a few hundred feet of siding to pass, there are a number of other locations to put one in place...



Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by vicguy on Nov 2nd, 2012, 2:17pm
It just seems like a waste of resources to pick up and move a siding a mile down the line.  I'd like to know more to the story, maybe the bicycle lobby group paid to have it moved  ;D

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Cody on Nov 2nd, 2012, 9:10pm
Maybe they needed the scrap value of the steel to keep the doors open another couple weeks.   :-/

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by chrisale on Nov 2nd, 2012, 10:04pm

on 11/02/12 at 21:10:45, Cody wrote:
Maybe they needed the scrap value of the steel to keep the doors open another couple weeks.   :-/

Don't forget SVI is under contract, they cannot walk away.  Plus they have signed a new 25 year $70 million contract for the Mainline hinging on the approval RD funding.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by vicguy on Nov 2nd, 2012, 10:23pm

on 11/02/12 at 22:04:25, chrisale wrote:
 Plus they have signed a new 25 year $70 million contract for the Mainline hinging on the approval RD funding.


Um, what was that? Any details?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by chrisale on Nov 2nd, 2012, 10:29pm

on 11/02/12 at 22:23:20, vicguy wrote:
Um, what was that? Any details?

They announced it when they announced the funding drive.

http://www.islandrail.ca/how-you-can-help/towards-restoration-your-contribution-will-make-rail-service-a-reality/

Not many other details... Though with that kind of commitment, I almost don't care.

Also on that page:
"Upon project completion, SVI will inject approximately $42 million over 10 years into the Island economy for wages, salaries, goods and services."

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by vicguy on Nov 2nd, 2012, 10:39pm

on 11/02/12 at 22:29:50, chrisale wrote:
They announced it when they announced the funding drive.

http://www.islandrail.ca/how-you-can-help/towards-restoration-your-contribution-will-make-rail-service-a-reality/

Not many other details... Though with that kind of commitment, I almost don't care.


Ah ok, thanks Chris, I read that incorrectly, was thinking of something else :)

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Coastrail on Nov 3rd, 2012, 1:46am

on 11/02/12 at 09:30:35, Polar wrote:
Rumor has it they will be putting a siding somewhere between Lampson st and Wilson st for passing.  I believe there use to be one there.


Actually there never was a siding there, but many switches to serve the warehouses. But there is room to put a siding. The only thing that is needed is to move the location of the powerline poles over.

There is still room to put in a siding near where the old one is being removed (further south near the reserve)

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by railpuck on Nov 3rd, 2012, 1:33pm

on 11/02/12 at 22:04:25, chrisale wrote:
Don't forget SVI is under contract, they cannot walk away.  Plus they have signed a new 25 year $70 million contract for the Mainline hinging on the approval RD funding.


Why would you attempt to sign a 25 year old deal, when you don't even know if the funding will get approved. Maybe it looks good on paper.
Something smells very fishy the way everything to do with our railway are being handled, and our politicians need to ask some serious questions to the ICF Board what the hell is going on!
I am really tired of all this hidden agenda BS, we the people own the railway,and its about time the ICF Board answered and told the truth.
My other point, is how the trails can get millions thru gas tax, but the railway doesn't get a dime. Could it be the Governments are not happy with the ICF.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by chrisale on Nov 3rd, 2012, 3:28pm

on 11/03/12 at 13:33:32, railpuck wrote:
Why would you attempt to sign a 25 year old deal, when you don't even know if the funding will get approved. Maybe it looks good on paper.


Maybe SVI believes that they will have a viable business for 25 years when the tracks are able to support it.



Quote:
My other point, is how the trails can get millions thru gas tax, but the railway doesn't get a dime. Could it be the Governments are not happy with the ICF.


It has nothing to do with the ICF.  Gas tax money can't be used on roads or railways.  

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by vicguy on Nov 3rd, 2012, 7:28pm
I went back to Esquimalt siding today to walk from Hallowell road to the Island Highway crossing and get a few more pictures. I came across this sign in the trees and I gotta ask which one of you put it there?  :)

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Jamie_Masters on Nov 6th, 2012, 4:08pm
Has anyone as of yet, found any official explanation for the complete removal of Esquimalt siding? I would be very interested in understanding the rationale  behind this seemingly counterproductive decision to further reduce the E&N's infrastructure.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by chrisale on Nov 6th, 2012, 5:20pm

on 11/06/12 at 16:08:14, Jamie_Masters wrote:
Has anyone as of yet, found any official explanation for the complete removal of Esquimalt siding? I would be very interested in understanding the rationale  behind this seemingly counterproductive decision to further reduce the E&N's infrastructure.


from an email from Mr. Bruce: underline is mine.

"the siding being replaced is part of the CRD trail project that is one of the ICF objectives…all rail & trail work is coordinated through the ICF, the CRD and Southern Rail. This work is a bonus for us.

we will be expanding our website in time to feature a photo gallery and information of different projects taking place along the corridor…the website is www.islandrail.ca
thanks for your interest."

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Jamie_Masters on Nov 6th, 2012, 8:30pm
Thanks for the info ; it does seemingly indicate where the priorities reside between rail and trail in the CRD.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by MinionII on Nov 6th, 2012, 9:59pm

on 11/06/12 at 17:20:30, chrisale wrote:
from an email from Mr. Bruce: underline is mine.

"the siding being replaced is part of the CRD trail project that is one of the ICF objectives…all rail & trail work is coordinated through the ICF, the CRD and Southern Rail. This work is a bonus for us.

we will be expanding our website in time to feature a photo gallery and information of different projects taking place along the corridor…the website is www.islandrail.ca
thanks for your interest."



Replaced...with a trail?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by railpuck on Nov 6th, 2012, 10:23pm

on 11/06/12 at 17:20:30, chrisale wrote:
from an email from Mr. Bruce: underline is mine.

"the siding being replaced is part of the CRD trail project that is one of the ICF objectives…all rail & trail work is coordinated through the ICF, the CRD and Southern Rail. This work is a bonus for us.

we will be expanding our website in time to feature a photo gallery and information of different projects taking place along the corridor…the website is www.islandrail.ca
thanks for your interest."


So I guess this means, our railway is doomed, as the ICF and SVI will now tear out all sidings to make way for trails, boy didn't see this coming!

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Nov 7th, 2012, 4:58pm
haha i think everyone is a little doom and gloom on this one... read it again and remember the word "Replaced" .. when the words "This work is bonus for us"

to me that says ... they are building a replacement siding at the trail builder's expense ??? that sounds like a huge positive to me ???

I am going to go out on a limb here and say judging by the fact they left the switch in and they original siding was quite a distance from the main... that they are just going to replace it with a closer alignment using the original track, some new ties, ect....

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Garrett_Owner on Nov 7th, 2012, 5:47pm

on 11/07/12 at 16:58:55, Chris_C wrote:
haha i think everyone is a little doom and gloom on this one... read it again and remember the word "Replaced" .. when the words "This work is bonus for us"

to me that says ... they are building a replacement siding at the trail builder's expense ??? that sounds like a huge positive to me ???

I am going to go out on a limb here and say judging by the fact they left the switch in and they original siding was quite a distance from the main... that they are just going to replace it with a closer alignment using the original track, some new ties, ect....

Hopefully with a deep sub bed of bicyclists and bicycles. :D Bwahahahahahaha

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Nov 7th, 2012, 6:49pm
Well there are a lot in the CRD ... so im sure no one will miss a few  ;)

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Speeder on Nov 7th, 2012, 8:09pm
If the trail is going where the old siding was, then there will be plenty of room for a new siding with a closer alignment to the mainline.

Also, SRY is likely getting $$$ for the siding/loop removal.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Brakeman302 on Nov 7th, 2012, 8:24pm
A little bird told me the siding is being replaced with a 300foot spur closer to the main line.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Jan 31st, 2013, 8:49pm
Brand new piece of track sitting next to the Waddington Road crossing in Nanaimo - looks like it is getting replaced in the near future

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Gyralite on Feb 1st, 2013, 2:26am
Well at least it's a start

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by albernisarah on Feb 15th, 2013, 1:55pm
I was in Parksville this morning and driving by the station, I noticed Southern workers cleaning out the maintenance compound.  




Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Polar on Feb 15th, 2013, 6:13pm
Saw the same thing so I went and asked them about it.  

It's because the compound has been broken into and material was stolen.  They were taking what's left back to Nanaimo.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Jun 14th, 2013, 1:20pm
Waddington Road crossing is getting replaced on June 18 - notices are up stating the rail crossing is closed that day.


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by ENR_fan on Jun 26th, 2013, 12:00am
Today, while I was briefly in the Duncan Wally World parking lot, noticed a SVI MOW crew working on the tracks. Didn't get out of the vehicle to take a closer look at the work but they were definitely pounding spikes into ties. They had the yellow high rail picker truck, white crew van and a small yellow MOW vehicle with them. Perhaps they replaced some ties?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Jul 21st, 2013, 6:43pm
Since Victoria City Council decided to remove the Johnson Street rail bridge the train will no longer enter the downtown. This shortens the rail line by one-third-of-a-mile (markers are STILL set in miles) and this photo reflects this change. The sign has been moved 500 metres northwest up the track. Maplebank Rd. can be seen in the distance.


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Pyronova on Jul 22nd, 2013, 7:36pm
It would be cheaper for the ICF to not change anything at all.......

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by railpuck on Jul 22nd, 2013, 7:49pm

on 07/22/13 at 19:36:43, Pyronova wrote:
It would be cheaper for the ICF to not change anything at all.......

I agree with you, if the tracks are ever extended back into town, you have to redo all the mileages once again, just start the mileage where the tracks are cut 0.3 mile

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Speeder on Jul 25th, 2013, 6:15am
New (replacement) siding in View Royal just north of Halliwell Rd. crossing. This picture is looking towards town.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Speeder on Jul 25th, 2013, 6:19am
The end of the siding (for now), just north of the last photo location.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Speeder on Jul 25th, 2013, 6:23am
Halfway up the siding looking north.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Speeder on Jul 25th, 2013, 6:31am
I'm guessing that the funding for the new siding is coming from money allotted for the E&N trail, since the old siding had to be removed to make way for the bike path.


It's amazing how when funds are tied to bike paths, etc. how quickly rails can get relaid. (Yeah, I'm being cynical.)

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Jul 25th, 2013, 6:55pm
Today while cycling the all new E+N Rail Trail section between Hallowell and MP4 I took a photo of the all new train bridge, rails, ties and ballast on the E&N Railway.


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Cody on Aug 6th, 2013, 12:48am
A new crossing package is going in on Devonshire Road in Esquimalt.   Brand new crossing arms, LED signal lights with multiple heads, the whole works.   Wonder if they will ever lower for a train?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cn2220 on Aug 7th, 2013, 3:07pm

on 08/06/13 at 00:48:31, Cody wrote:
Wonder if they will ever lower for a train?


I would hope so but at this point, I doubt it.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Goose5 on Sep 6th, 2013, 5:24pm
A large white hirail track analysis & strength testing truck just passed by northbound at Rosehill St. in Nanaimo.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Oct 16th, 2013, 9:47pm
Ongoing Xing work . . .


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Dennis Dalla-Vicenza on Oct 17th, 2013, 1:17pm
Another bunch of money being spent and still no trains..
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/plans-rolling-along-for-e-n-rail-trail-first-phase-to-open-in-2014-1.662169

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Gyralite on Oct 17th, 2013, 1:32pm
Why, Dennis-don't you know we have to keep our bicycle enthusiast overlords appeased or suffer dire consequenses?

You know like actually spending money on things that make sense?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by blackdog on Oct 20th, 2013, 2:19pm
Could be worse. At least they aren't ripping up the tracks.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Nov 29th, 2013, 11:22am
"Another bunch of money being spent and still no trains . . ."
It is my understanding the upgrades would be completed before the trains started operating again.
Bill
P.S. The week of November 17th 2013 saw the completion of the E&N xings at Hutchinson Ave. and Intervale Ave. (off Colville Rd in Esquimalt)

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by 404 on Mar 17th, 2014, 3:15pm
Hello everyone.

New to the forum.

Just wondering if any news on the rail upgrades?

A story was on Check news a couple of weeks ago and they said the negotiations are progressing well acording to the foundation.

I am wondering if any funds are being used to upgrade the line yet or if everything is still on hold?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Dennis Dalla-Vicenza on Mar 18th, 2014, 12:54am
Get used to it but the only money that will be spent on the E & N will be for bicycle trails as that is the only wheeled objects that city councilors can fathom.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by MinionII on Mar 18th, 2014, 1:41am
Welcome to the forum 404.

Not all of us have given up all hope on the rail aspect of the corridor. ;D

Most of the improvements in the Victoria area have been rebuilt crossings despite the lack of trains, and track work mostly as a result of the bike path.

There is a great deal of historical information and pictures on this forum if you are interested and care to browse. Not a lot of activity recently, but it has always been pretty cyclical.

-Andrew

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by DS on Aug 13th, 2014, 2:02am
So when the track work starts-are they going to use a Hertzog train like they did rebuilding the CN line in the interior?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Goose5 on Oct 15th, 2014, 4:35pm
Finally some tie replacement between Rosehill St. and Townsite Rd. in Nanaimo. The orange markings on the ties to be replaced were put on late last week and the crew was just by in the last hour working on them.

Dave

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Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by thehighwayman on Oct 15th, 2014, 5:53pm

Going by the photos, I don't think anyone can argue those ties did not need replacement!

Will MacKenzie
Flamborough, ON


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by blackdog on Nov 3rd, 2014, 5:45pm
What you have here in most of those pictures are groups of 5-6 ties ALL of which need replacement. By replacing one tie in the middle of each group you keep the track hanging together for a bit longer. A proper repair, it isn't.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by George_Harris on Nov 3rd, 2014, 9:58pm

on 11/03/14 at 17:45:56, blackdog wrote:
What you have here in most of those pictures are groups of 5-6 ties ALL of which need replacement. By replacing one tie in the middle of each group you keep the track hanging together for a bit longer. A proper repair, it isn't.

For FRA Class 1 it is a proper repair.  You really cannot tell tie conditions from a photograph.  In fact, even though I have been around railroad tracks for over 40 years I do not pretend to be a qualified tie inspector, so I cannot say how good or bad the tie conditions really are, however I do see some that look reasonably good.   When you see the ties that are being taken out coming apart, they you know for certain that they are candidates for replacement.  Beyond that, I would not say how many of those left are no longer doing their job.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by blackdog on Nov 7th, 2014, 6:00pm
In picture 7, to the left of the split tie that's being removed, tie 1 is split end to end, tie 2 is split at the nearer end through to the spike, ties 3-8 are all split end-to-end. A split through a spike hole means that the spike will be loose. The repairs may be 'proper' (perhaps I used the wrong word) but I don't believe they are adequate for long-term reinstatement of a very neglected railway.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by CroftonSpur88 on Nov 19th, 2014, 9:02pm

on 05/29/12 at 13:31:26, SRY 110 wrote:
HI there, since there will be a substantial amount of work being done over the next year or so, I thought I would start this thread to post pictures, document the work being done, work trains, and progress.

This is not a tread to talk about where the work should start or how the funds will be spent or complaining about this and that ^Y^..There is already a spot for that here! NO need for more!..Just positive information to pass on to all of us to show case the rebuilding of a great railway!  ;D

Keep it to the point, post pics, and track the progress!


Sounds like someone jumped the gun with this statement, unfortunately...

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Jan 15th, 2015, 12:05pm
There is a significant length of track through View Royal with new ties and ballast. This photo is taken December 2014 in Dunsmuir's Cut at MP4


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by ENR_fan on Jan 19th, 2015, 4:41pm
On the 16th of January, while driving by Top Shelf Feeds, I noticed that the mainline and siding were severed by the installation of underground utilities. I would assume they will be replacing those sections soon...
Sorry no pics.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cn2220 on Feb 5th, 2015, 1:10pm
Heard there was also some rail removed around the Cassidy area.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by boxcar on Mar 5th, 2015, 8:43pm
Looks like the track is back together by top shelf

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Apr 26th, 2015, 5:11pm
Tell me I'm wrong here but it appears this Craigflower Pump Station remedial work along side the E&N Railway tracks at the Four-Mile Bridge is in fact undermining the railbed.


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by sw1980 on May 28th, 2015, 6:09pm
According to the ICF website, ties are being replaced at the Superior Propane spur this week in Nanaimo.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Jun 20th, 2015, 9:48pm
The track has been repaired near Burnett xing (Palmer) and rumour has it a train used the track near Goldstream (MP10) tonight at 6:30p.m. We didn't see it but heard  a whistle.


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Aaron Lypkie on Jul 28th, 2015, 11:21pm
The problem is just replacing ties does nothing if the ballast isn't up to standards.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Nov 3rd, 2015, 7:29pm
Looks like the Bowen Road crossing is getting some significant work done this Thursday from 7PM - 6AM and again on Nov 12th .  

https://twitter.com/cityofnanaimo/status/661649724366331905


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by CLC Fan on Nov 12th, 2015, 8:13am
The southbound lanes at the Bowen Rd crossing have nice smooth asphalt and the black plastic crossing material removed.  Judging by the tie-puller parked nearby on the old Madill spur I assume some rotting ties were replaced.  The northbound side of the crossing remain untouched and the left turn lane sports a miniature version of the Grand Canyon located between the rails.  ;) ;D

It also appears the Wellington Rd crossing just up the line has been redone recently.  Nice smooth surface and clean alignment.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Nov 12th, 2015, 9:51pm
Part 2 of Bowen Road would be tonight - should be underway in the next hour I would think.

EDIT: Looks like they called it on account of the weather - I don't blame 'em lol

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Nov 20th, 2015, 2:12pm
Second half of the Bowen Road crossing has now been repaired

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by CLC Fan on Aug 11th, 2016, 9:25pm
Since early July the grade crossing lights and arm on the north side of the Northfield Rd. crossing in Nanaimo have been mangled.  It appears a truck swerved into it or side swiped it, it's leaning over, the lights are twisted and the crossing arm lay on the ground.  I saw crews removing it on the morning of July 29th.

I find it curious that for one of the busiest intersections, the safety device still has not been replaced.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by Chris_C on Aug 23rd, 2016, 4:16pm
Word from in the City of Nanaimo is that the Truck that did it was reported, ICBC takes care of it in this case. Takes time to get the parts ordered unfortunately.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by ENR_fan on Sep 30th, 2016, 12:08am
Not significant, but worth mentioning if it hasn't been all ready. Was working near the Parksville industrial park and noticed that the rails for the spur into the park property have been ripped out and pilled on the ROW. The switch was previously removed years ago. There is a new industrial building going up on the property that had the spur.
National Silicates' spur is still operable for the record.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by CroftonSpur88 on Apr 14th, 2017, 1:05pm

on 05/29/12 at 13:31:26, SRY 110 wrote:
HI there, since there will be a substantial amount of work being done over the next year or so, I thought I would start this thread to post pictures, document the work being done, work trains, and progress.

This is not a tread to talk about where the work should start or how the funds will be spent or complaining about this and that ^Y^..There is already a spot for that here! NO need for more!..Just positive information to pass on to all of us to show case the rebuilding of a great railway!  ;D

Keep it to the point, post pics, and track the progress!


How's that track work coming along??

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by MinionII on Apr 14th, 2017, 11:20pm
There seems to be some sort of work going on between Maplebank Rd and Admirals Road, along the water side of the tracks behind the Victoria Shipyard parking lot. Anyone know what's going on? The E&N rail trail is complete along there, on the land side of the track.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by CLC Fan on Apr 20th, 2017, 2:04am
Was told this past friday that supposedly a small section of track just north of the Duncan station have been pulled up but unable to verify the actual extent and reason.

Also saw this in the paper today.   :-/

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Jun 29th, 2017, 10:32pm
New xing gates at Maplebank


Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Jul 10th, 2017, 4:39pm
New track, ties and ballast at Songhee Wellness Centre

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by MinionII on Jul 10th, 2017, 9:14pm
I sincerely hope that this doesn't represent money being thrown away, along with all those crossing improvements that were done between this spot and the yard.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Jul 22nd, 2017, 10:12pm
New Xing Gates, ties and ballast at West Hills Parkway at Kettle Creek Station housing development. 10.3MP along E&N.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by CLC Fan on Aug 27th, 2017, 8:53pm
This is located a couple hundred metres north of the switch at Wellington siding.  New end of track?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by MinionII on Aug 27th, 2017, 11:43pm
Did the condition of the ties and roadbed take a nosedive north of that point?

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by CLC Fan on Sep 1st, 2017, 2:53am
No.  It still has the same looks at least up to Green Lake trestle.  I've just never seen a demarcation so obvious like that.  Could be nothing, in which case  management at SR/VI is having a good chuckle at my expense. ☺

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Oct 5th, 2017, 9:42am
E&N Siding on FlickR (https://flic.kr/p/Y7U2Vi)
Perhaps someone knows why it was placed at this location
It is visible in Google.earth at: 48°26'33.50"N 123°25'44.86"W

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by railpuck on Oct 5th, 2017, 11:52am

on 08/27/17 at 23:43:23, MinionII wrote:
Did the condition of the ties and roadbed take a nosedive north of that point?


Its mostly bad ties that require replacement.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by MinionII on Oct 5th, 2017, 11:59pm

on 10/05/17 at 09:42:19, cycledude wrote:
E&N Siding on FlickR (https://flic.kr/p/Y7U2Vi)
Perhaps someone knows why it was placed at this location
It is visible in Google.earth at: 48°26'33.50"N 123°25'44.86"W


That is the beginning of the spur that used to drop down into the shipyard. There are still rails in the ground in the shipyard, and the main walkway from the back gate off Maplebank down into the yard was the route of the spur. A little further south would have been the switch for Superior Propane, but that's long gone...the Wellness Center sits there now.

Title: Re: E+N Track Work
Post by cycledude on Oct 11th, 2017, 9:27pm
Thanks for your reply
I'm not sure which shipyard that was but just the other day I photoed the back gate to the Dry Dock (https://flic.kr/p/CbA9ph)



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