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(Message started by: Goose5 on Oct 23rd, 2007, 8:25pm)

Title: CN Victoria Track Photos
Post by Goose5 on Oct 23rd, 2007, 8:25pm
Here is the first segment of the CN track photo set. This segment is from the E&N interchange switch as far as the barge slip lead. Standard view is looking north. Any change from this will be mentioned to avoid confusion. Enjoy,

Dave :)

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Post by Pyronova on Oct 23rd, 2007, 8:49pm
Hey Goose!  Nice shots!

Just to clarify, what year were all these pics?


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Post by vicguy on Oct 23rd, 2007, 9:03pm
Oh my,......OH MY!!!  Goose, a million thank yous! I can't believe how much was left still in 1985. You have taken all the photos I wish I had taken. Can't wait for the tour to continue!

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Post by Coastrail on Oct 23rd, 2007, 11:43pm
it is interesting to see that most of the CNR track arrangement stayed around right up to the mid 80s.



Dave do u happen to have any photos of the E&N yard as well?

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Post by Goose5 on Oct 24th, 2007, 6:11pm
Sorry Coast, I never did get around to doing a proper track set around the E&N yard area. I do have some pictures taken here and there over time that show track layout, removed switches etc. but not in the same style as the Store St. and CN track sets. The only other set I did was one at Youbou in 1985 from the end of track about a mile through town behind all the houses along the water.

Dave

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Post by torch on Oct 24th, 2007, 8:31pm
Aaron,  there is definately enuff fotos on this board that showcase the e&n yard and honestly, it really hasnt changed very much at all over the last 50 years  with the exception of the lower harbor spurs and union pacific connection/barge slip. Ive got some e&n yard fotos  from around 89/ 90  that I will be uploading next week when I purchase my new printer/scanner.( goose inspired me for that!)

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Post by craigolio on Oct 24th, 2007, 8:40pm
It would be great if you could post the photos of Youbou as well, when you have chance.

Thanks, Craig

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Post by craigolio on Oct 24th, 2007, 8:45pm
It would be great if you could post the photos of Youbou as well, when you have chance.

Thanks, Craig

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Post by Goose5 on Oct 24th, 2007, 8:54pm
Hi Craig,

I'll do the Youbou set after the CN set before I start going through everything else.

Dave

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Post by B_Winkler on Oct 24th, 2007, 9:15pm
I was born and raised in Youbou.  I remember the trains coming in and would love to see the pictures

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Post by CN7059 on Oct 25th, 2007, 2:14am

on 10/25/07 at 00:22:03, CLC Fan wrote:
Goose, i'm buying you a round.  ;D



Second round's on me!

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Post by Goose5 on Oct 25th, 2007, 8:51pm
:)Thanks guys, I'm just glad I'm able to share all of this. Here's the second segment of the set moving through the yard and over the trestle. Once again, the standard view is north and any differences will be noted. I'll continue the numbering sequence from the last segment.

Dave :)

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Post by CP8673 on Oct 25th, 2007, 9:18pm
Glad to see these pics - brings back memories.  I was able to scrounge several rides with the CN yard crew but never had the sense to take photo's as "there's always tomorrow"

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Post by vicguy on Oct 25th, 2007, 11:41pm
CN had quite a bit of trackage and sidings between the Selkirk trestle and Johnson Street bridge! I wonder how many customers they served there at its peak? I was also wondering how often the CN/E&N interchange got used when CN had its own barge service, and what would have been interchanged? I like the fact that CN had an "upper yard!"
I'm looking forward to the next set, cause I can see the BCFP mill ahead!

Thanks Goose!

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Post by Coastrail on Oct 26th, 2007, 12:20am
Nice pics. The CN yard was definitely bigger than the E&N yard.
What year did Johnston Terminals stop using rail service? I think i was located a few blocks before the TCH crossing. Why did CN stop serving them? There are shots in 1977 showing long trains going across the selkirk trestle.

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Post by CN7059 on Oct 26th, 2007, 2:43am
I was curious about the track arrangement in photo 32. I assume that it has something to do with the lift span, but it seemed odd to me, and I've never seen anything like it before.

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Post by CrashNational on Oct 26th, 2007, 3:26am

on 10/26/07 at 02:43:19, CN7059 wrote:
I was curious about the track arrangement in photo 32. I assume that it has something to do with the lift span, but it seemed odd to me, and I've never seen anything like it before.


Almost look like derails.

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Post by torch on Oct 26th, 2007, 5:45am
goose,  please tell me that ya  have fotos of the trackage around alfa street with the spur(s) there.. I always used to see BN boxcars on a spur around there...just south of johnston terminals.

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Post by Goose5 on Oct 26th, 2007, 8:22am
Hi Torch,

Yep, Alpha St. area will be in the next segment.

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on 10/26/07 at 03:26:12, CrashNational wrote:
Almost look like derails.


Derails on a bridge? How safe is that?

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Post by George_Harris on Oct 26th, 2007, 2:52pm

on 10/25/07 at 21:12:19, Goose5 wrote:
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What you are seeing here is a home made rail expansion joint. The objective is to make sure that longitudinal movement of the rail under the photographer does not result in any movement of the rail beyond these switch points. I would hope that this is a very slow speed track. If I were building this thing, I would have a guard rail, like you have opposite a frog adjacent to the other rail opposite the point end of each of these switch blades.

Definitely not a derail. There is nothing to open the switch point.

However, in quite a few locations there are derails in advance of drawbridges.  The idea being that a train bouncing along the ties will stop before going off the end or running into the draw span.   The inside guard rails as seen in the picture keep the train from going off the side of the bridge.  It is the concept that a derailed car sitting on the ties is better than a car in the water.  

George

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Post by CP8673 on Oct 26th, 2007, 3:06pm

on 10/26/07 at 14:52:12, George_Harris wrote:
What you are seeing here is a home made rail expansion joint.  The objective is to make sure that longitudinal movement of the rail under the photographer does not result in any movement of the rail beyond these switch points.  I would hope that this is a very slow speed track.  If I were building this thing, I would have a guard rail, like you have opposite a frog adjacent to the other rail opposite the point end of each of these switch blades.  

Definitely not a derail.  There is nothing to open the switch point.

However, in quite a few locations there are derails in advance of drawbridges.  The idea being that a train bouncing along the ties will stop before going off the end or running into the draw span.   The inside guard rails as seen in the picture keep the train from going off the side of the bridge.  It is the concept that a derailed car sitting on the ties is better than a car in the water.  

George    

10 MPH

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Post by Pyronova on Oct 26th, 2007, 3:43pm

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Definitely not a derail.  There is nothing to open the switch point.


I can see a tab off of the point on both rails.  


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However, in quite a few locations there are derails in advance of drawbridges.  The idea being that a train bouncing along the ties will stop before going off the end or running into the draw span.   The inside guard rails as seen in the picture keep the train from going off the side of the bridge.  It is the concept that a derailed car sitting on the ties is better than a car in the water.  

It looks like there is a set of these interesting 'points' in both directions on either side of the lift span.  I wonder if lifting the bridge actuates the derail function if it exists.     I can't find my Last Runs video right now, but isn't there a is a video of the guy hand cranking the span up;  maybe it would show the points opening as well?  ?  ?  ?

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Post by CP8673 on Oct 26th, 2007, 4:16pm
I can remember examining the mechanism several times.  There wasn't any connection to the points on either side (and in fact impossible with the BCFP side)

Also there is not mention of any derail feature in the employee timetable.  As this was considered a main track (even though it was in yard limits) there would be mention of it if a derail feature existed.  My money is on the expansion joint.

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on 10/26/07 at 15:43:29, Pyronova wrote:
I can see a tab off of the point on both rails.

I saw this tab in the picture also and wondered about it. My best guess at this point is that it is a brace to be sure that the point does not move inward when the rail leading into it moves. Based on CP8673's post also, this appears to be correct.

I stll say these points need a guard rail opposite them. If not a derail, the center of the guard should be about opposite the point. This is only a concern for the facing move.  You don't have to worry about guarding the trailing move.

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Here's the next segment of the set from the end of the trestle up to just past the Johnston Terminals spur approaching the wye.

Dave :)

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Great stuff, Goose5!

I had totally forgotten the VI CN style whistle planks err posts.  Good to see some of them along the ROW.

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Post by vicguy on Oct 26th, 2007, 10:48pm
Thanks Goose!!  Thats some rough looking track!

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thanks goose.. Hey   does anybody here  know what the alfa street spur  was used for? in the early 80s  I used to see BN boxcars there a lot.. Not sure if there was ever more than one spur there. In the foto  You can see a truck trailer parked right on the  spur  which was sunken into the  dirt and gravel.  Maybe the winrock place across from it  was the  customer?  anybody?

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I seem to remember at least once a flatcar spotted there with some steel on for some sort of fabrication, but my mind is fuzzy on this.

J\

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Post by timberland#7 on Oct 28th, 2007, 3:32am
Its to bad the island corridor foundation didnt get this trackage as well. They would have only got one customer but a lot more potential sites.

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Post by blackdog on Oct 28th, 2007, 10:59am
Those are a GREAT set of pictures. That's how a railway should be recorded for posterity. That's already pretty much all that modellers or historians will have to refer to after the ROW is built over, converted into trails or whatever. I shall have a go at modelling those structures when I get time.

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Post by Mark J on Oct 28th, 2007, 11:26am
I was talking with a retired management type who spend considerable time on the island working for CN.  I asked him if there was one specific reason for CN's demise on the island,  this is what he told me, loosely quoted:  The shakers act that was signed in the states in the early 80's enabled American railroads to charge whatever they wanted for freight rates on car loads destined to the mid west and eastern seaboard.  This was the major blow to CN's operation on the island.  Basically overnight CN lost well over half of its business on the island, mostly forest products that were now cheaper to load onto barges and then off loaded onto rail cars on the American coast.  As soon as this came to be it was simply just a matter of time... Such a shame, a shame indeed.

Very cool pictures and thanks for sharing them.

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Here's the next segment of the set showing the wye area.

Dave :)

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Here is a small set taken on May 12, 1986 showing a rare use of the wye to turn a replacement locomotive sent over on the barge facing in the wrong direction.

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Post by vicguy on Oct 28th, 2007, 3:48pm
Ok, that last set of the the GMD1 using the wye is my favorite pics on this site! I grew up a block away from there and from our house on Cadillac Avenue we could see the stretch of track from Harriet to Wascana (and the track crossing Hwy 1 from my roof!) . I remember the odd time looking out the window and seeing a train using the wye and coming up just past Harriet like in your pictures.  Very cool, those pics bring back a lot of memories of that area as I used to walk that track with my Dad while taking our dog for walks! There used to be track actually reaching Tillicum Road maybe as late as mid 80s?

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nice!  Hey  goose.. around late 85  I saw a  train using the  wye.. a gmd-1  with one hopper car and a flatcar loaded with truck cab/chassis   Im assuming that was for finning.. I dont know how they wouldve unloaded them with no end ramp spur.. maybe there was at one point. Does anybody know what the alfa street spur was used for? thanks.

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Post by Goose5 on Oct 30th, 2007, 8:24pm
Here's the last part of the set from just beyond the wye up to the end of track.

Dave :)

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Post by vicguy on Oct 30th, 2007, 8:52pm
Goose, that was a great tour! I'm glad you were able to document the line for people like myself who thought the line would be around "forever."
I'm looking forward to your other island photos!
Thanks!

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on 10/27/07 at 22:36:23, torch wrote:
thanks goose.. Hey   does anybody here  know what the alfa street spur  was used for? in the early 80s  I used to see BN boxcars there a lot.. Not sure if there was ever more than one spur there. In the foto  You can see a truck trailer parked right on the  spur  which was sunken into the  dirt and gravel.  Maybe the winrock place across from it  was the  customer?  anybody?



hey Torch, my cousin sent me an email (he's on the HMCS Calgary out at sea and unable to post on the forum) regarding your question about the Alpha Street spur. He used to have a CN/CP customer list from 1988 and he remembers that Winroc Gypsum and Pelagic Pacific Industries (plastics) were on there and both of their buildings were adjacent to that spur. Maybe 1 or both of them used that spur at times? Hopes this helps!

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Post by torch on Oct 30th, 2007, 10:42pm
thanks vicguy.. hey, if you guys go back to the foto of the  alfa street spur  turnout   it looks like there was a  right hand  turnout there at  one point because to the  right of the track there are what looks like  extended  ties sticking out. When I used to see the boxcars sitting there   it  was always viewed from a road to the north of the site  and it seemed to me at the time that the cars were sitting on a track to the north of the mainline.

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Post by CPRail4744 on Nov 3rd, 2007, 2:41am
Thankyou again Goose5 for scanning and posting all the pictures.  

Like everybody else, the memories are coming back big time.  Especially the Borden mercantile spur and end of track.  I remember the grain cars there, and watching the switcher cross Quadra street once when I was a small kid.  I am presuming this whole ROW is now a trail?   Much as I hate the rails to trails concept (of course I would rather still have rails that are being used by trains!)  I think I will make a point of walking or riding the route next time I am on the Island.

Again, much appreciated!

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Post by Piglet on Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:13am
I am truely impressed with how through you are in your documentation of things Goose.   You are a godsend to all of us who tresure the rails and their history.  With being on dial up (you have to love living in the country)it does take a while to down load but I am more then happy to take the time for your wonderful photo studies.  I look forward to each set as it takes me home and away from the snow (yes we have already had some here).  Keep up the good work.

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Post by Goose5 on Nov 10th, 2007, 6:59pm
Here's some photos taken on October 8, 1988 showing the removal of all the non-essential sidings and spurs. CN had discontinued the barge service on March 30, 1988 with all cars now routed through the E&N interchange.

Dave :)

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Post by Goose5 on Nov 10th, 2007, 7:39pm
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Post by Goose5 on Nov 10th, 2007, 7:52pm
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Title: Re: CN Victoria Track Photos
Post by vicguy on Nov 10th, 2007, 8:13pm
I am continually amazed at how thorough you are with these pictures! Great pictures again, but also very sad to see. At first I was wondering what the bulkhead flats were for, but they must have been to haul all the rail away (am I right?).
Goose, do you ever remember back in the late eighties, a depressed center flat car parked under the Carey Road overpass? It was black, and I believe it was a CN car. I checked it out with a friend one day while walking over to check out the latest GI Joes at Woolco and to this day, can't imagine what it was for.

Title: Re: CN Victoria Track Photos
Post by Goose5 on Nov 10th, 2007, 8:30pm
Hi Chris. No I can't say that I recall seeing the depressed center flatcar that you refer to although I do have a photo of a depressed center flat loaded with what looks like a transformer of some kind being switched into the Johnston Terminals spur. Haven't got around to scanning it yet though. As for the bulkhead flatcars, I think the BC Forest Products mill on Gorge Road was still shipping loads out on them at this time. The empties in the photos are probably ones that arrived via the E&N and were not yet needed.

Dave :)

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Post by torch on Nov 10th, 2007, 9:07pm
nice pics, goose.. sad tho. I once saw a gmd-1 switching out a flatcar load of truck cabs/chassis  on the  wye track by the trans canada hiway. do you recall any odd moves like that happening there? I wasnt  sure where the loads were headed but there was a finning dealer and budget rental there so maybe one or the other.. dont know how they wouldve unloaded them as  there was no stub spur or  end  ramp there that I know of. another odd thing is that it happened on a  saturday. Mustve been around summer of 85  or  so. Goose..also do you know who was served at the alfa street spur? going back throo your fotos  it apears there may have been a second spur around alfa street too as there are extended ties to the right   before the left trunout. thanks.---m

Title: Re: CN Victoria Track Photos
Post by vicguy on Nov 11th, 2007, 6:22am
Dave, thats interesting, I didn't realize they shipped out lumber by bulkheads there, I always remember boxcars being at the mill. Also, VERY interesting about the flat car at Johnson Terminals. Maybe thats where the one I saw came from, but I don't know why they would have left it there and that also means that they would have gone around the wye so the engine could return to the yard. Hmmmm......

Torch: still trying to find out about that flatcar w/trucks, huh? I know this was discussed years ago, but I forgot if you said what colour the trucks were? If they were white, they must have been for Budget, Finning was pretty much all heavy equipment type stuff. Also like you said, how did they unload the flat? Maybe they borrowed a crane from Finning :)

Title: Re: CN Victoria Track Photos
Post by Goose5 on Nov 11th, 2007, 6:22pm
Chris, I have a few photos showing switching at the mill with the bulkhead flats as well as moving them around the yard. Haven't scanned them yet but will get to those sometime soon.

Torch, I don't remember seeing any unusual moves except the depressed center flatcar one that I have but no doubt there were a few out of the ordinary cars or spotting locations. As for the Alpha St. spur I think in later years it was used as sort of a team track where any car with a load for any business close by in the area would be spotted there. That's a guess though, I'm not definitely sure of it.

Dave

Title: Re: CN Victoria Track Photos
Post by torch on Nov 11th, 2007, 7:39pm
Hey vic guy.. yup  the  trucks  were  white.. probably  were  for  budget. anyhow it  was a  cool move to  see being tht it  was on a  saturday and they were on the northwest leg of the  wye.. they also had one hopper with them too.  shoot ..I  remember seeing hoppers spotted at the mac donalds bakery spur by the hi way there too.  Goose,  im sure youre right about the alfa street spur. Definately was a  team track but I was  curious as to what industrys it  wouldve served. It was stated before that win roc was possibly one of them and that makes sense.

Title: Re: CN Victoria Track Photos
Post by Goose5 on Dec 3rd, 2016, 2:52pm
Just bumping this thread up as it relates to a current discussion on the CN pics thread.

Dave



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