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Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Nov 25th, 2003, 2:25pm
This thread is for posting your E&N photos. I'll start. FarmRail RDC 6130 on the turntable in Vic West.  
 
Posted by: kidcongo Posted on: Nov 26th, 2003, 12:46am
Some pics of the E&N / Wellcox November 2003
Posted by: kidcongo Posted on: Nov 26th, 2003, 12:50am
some photos of Wellcox / November 2003
Posted by: kidcongo Posted on: Nov 26th, 2003, 12:53am
wellcox November 2003
Posted by: kidcongo Posted on: Dec 16th, 2003, 3:12am
Budd car in Vic West October 2003
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Dec 17th, 2003, 5:10pm
CP 6701 switches the Vic West Yard. J. Glen Roemer photo.
Posted by: kidcongo Posted on: Dec 18th, 2003, 2:47am
Do you know when this pic was taken?  I recognize the propane cars.  Are the hoppers for ballast?    
 
I saw both Rail America's geeps drag a dead RDC back to the roundhouse on December 16th.  Not your run of the mill lash-up.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Dec 18th, 2003, 5:50pm
In the photo, it looks like the crew is putting together the train for the trip back to Nanaimo which the GP's(judging from the time of the photo, those were GP35's) sitting in the back ground would haul haul to Nanaimo. The photo was taken in 1988 about 4 years before the Store St. tracks were lifted. The Propane hoppers were from ICG Propane in Langford, and Intercity Gas on Store St. as the train worked its way north they'd pick up cars from Superior Propane in Esquimalt and Top Shelf Feeds in Duncan. The grain hopers came from Borden Mercantile via the Canadian National's Cowichan Subdivision which was abandoned 2 years later. The Boxcars were probably from Standard Furniture in Vic West.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 6th, 2004, 6:52pm
VIA 6135 speeds along Atkins Rd. Mick Hall photo.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 2:28am
VIA 6148 peaks around a trailer as it arrives in Victoria from Courtenay.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 2:30am
VIA Budds in Langford. This was taken on the 6135's test run before it went into service. It made the trip from Victoria to Courtenay and back, completely empty, with the trailing RDC, 6148 handling the passenger loads.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 2:32am
6135 rests in Nanaimo on the northbound trip.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 2:35am
A look inside one of the rebuilt RDC's. This is the refurbished passenger area of 6135.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 2:37am
6148 sits in Courtenay before heading south.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 2:41am
6148 in Nanaimo
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 2:43am
snack bar on board 6148.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 2:48am
6148 pulls into Victoria.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 2:50am
Budds on the Turntable in Vic West
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 12:07pm
E&N Railway highrail stopped in Courtenay to do some work on a switch. This photo was snapped about 10 minutes before the northbound Budds arrived.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 12:11pm
GP9 1001 crests the grade at the top of the Malahat. Jason King photo. Back when freight trains still ran to Victoria.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 12:15pm
GP38 3877 pulls a northbound Victoria Turn through Cobble Hill. Jason King photo.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 12:18pm
GP38's 3809 and 3870 haul about 5 propane cars to Superior Propane in Nanaimo. Jason King photo.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 12:20pm
Northbound Victoria Turn whistles for the Humpback Rd. crossing. The train is passing the abandoned Goldstream station. The power on this run was GP9 1001 and GP38 3809.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Jan 21st, 2004, 12:25pm
Westbound Port Alberni Turn stopped for lunch at Whiskey Creek. Jason King photo.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 12:04am
The Courtenay turn returning to Parksville in December of 1992. The crew had left the rest of its cars in front of the station earlier that day. The crew did some gravity switching to add the cars to the train and then proceeded on to Parksville to do some switching in the insustrial park.  
 
ENR3005
 
 
 
 
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 12:08am
Port Alberni turn passing the National Silicates spur in December of 1992. It was a short consist this day with only one hopper and eight boxcars.
 
ENR3005
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 1:30am
Victoria yard November 1989
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 2:01am
Duncan turn, December 29, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 3:28am
Victoria turn in Chemainus, BC, Novemeber 27, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 3:30am
Victoria Yard, October 1989 (note truck unloading boxcar!):
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 4:33am
3870 blasts across a crossing near Wellington.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 4:41am
The pair of GP38's shove propane cars(behind the ballast hoppers) into one of the last customers on the railway, Superior Propane in Nanaimo.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 4:30pm
Nanaimo switcher returning to Wellcox Yard , December 29, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 4:36pm
Victoria turn returning to Wellcox yard at Cassidy with 11 cars that day! December 8, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 4:44pm
Switching Buckerfields feed plant in Duncan. As I was taking this pic, one of the rails folded over putting the grain car wheels in the dirt, the train crew was not happy, one of them asked me if I wanted  a job as he wanted to go home! Buckerfields is (was) about a kilometer north of Top Shelf. December 29, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 11:14pm
Victoria turn with a boxcar of bagged flour to be dropped off at the E.H. Pope siding in Langford. January 29, 1993:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 11:17pm
GP38AC 3010 resting at Wellcox Yard, Nanaimo. December 8, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 24th, 2004, 11:42pm
switching Superior Propane, Esquimalt BC, unknown date (late 92-early 93):
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 1:33am
Gravity switch move in progress back in December of 1992. The train will continue on to Parksville shortly for some switching in the industrial park.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 1:35am
Wellcox yard in July of 1992. Kind of empty on this day.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 4:38am
e.h. pope siding?....was that the big warehouse just off of jacklin road?
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 12:40pm
That spur is still there, albeit shortened. Pacific Wilderness used it to store some equipment(rather than Pay CP 800 bucks a day for the Vic West yard) between the 2000 and 2001 seasons.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 5:11pm
EH Pope was a bakery inside that big warehouse on Jacklin Road. When that train showed up with that boxcar, I couldnt figure out who it was for. I thought they might leave it at the loading dock in the yard but they left Victoria with it. I was pretty surprised when they dropped it at that warehouse because it wasnt a regular customer. Anyway, heres a pic of that boxcar at EH Pope, January 29, 1993:
Posted by: torch Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 6:52pm
thats where i thought.in the early 80s when the warehouse first opened,it was a huge food distributer....they would  get up to 5-6 cars at  a time.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 9:17pm
Ladysmith, December 22, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 9:18pm
Cassidy, November 27, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 9:20pm
Westholme January 5, 1993:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 9:21pm
Westholme January 22, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 25th, 2004, 9:23pm
near Crofton December 8, 1992:
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 4:43pm
on Feb 25th, 2004, 1:35am, ENR3005 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Wellcox yard in July of 1992. Kind of empty on this day.

 
Not nearly as empty as it is now.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 4:44pm
A VERY empty Wellcox yard.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 4:45pm
The E&N's last three locomotives.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 7th, 2004, 2:23pm
Great pictures guys. I have dug out a few more more from my collection to post. The first is a group of GP38s waiting for their next assignment back in the spring of 1992.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 7th, 2004, 2:27pm
Some barge switching on around 4pm on June 6, 1994. The yard was very full this day as you will see in the next photo below.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 7th, 2004, 2:31pm
I had never seen the yard so full. There seemed to be a healthy amount of traffic on the system at this date. Also you will note that CP had been doing some work to the engine area. Its hard to believe that so much has changed in the last 10 years.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 17th, 2004, 8:23pm
on Mar 17th, 2004, 8:04pm, KVR_Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great pics, all!!  Keep them coming, especially of ones taken in the 1960's/70's, including structures.  This pic has an un-id SW (can't remember which  ), a high hood GP-9 #8835, and RDC #6134.

 
Great pic KVR_Fan!! if you have any more E&N pics please post em!!  
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2004, 11:30pm
Excellent posts !!
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 17th, 2004, 11:59pm
great pics! I felt like I was watching a slide show (refresh, refresh,refresh.....) As I was looking at your pics I was trying to piece everything together, where everything was located. I'm almost 29 so I have a vague memory of what things looked like around 1985. Cant wait for the CN pics
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 12:25am
heres a pic of me in the same caboose in KVR_Fans yard picture, March 1985:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 12:26am
CP crane in Vic yard, March 1985:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 12:27am
old passenger car in Vic yard, March 1985 (anybody know where this ended up?):
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 12:29am
another pic of myself with my cousin, again Vic yard same day, March 1985:
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 1:27am
KVR,
 
The pic showing the oil tanks and lack of condos.  The one where you are standing on the bridge.  Can you position yourself in this shot for me.  I can't quite figure out where you are in the shot.  Is that the short birdge after the blue bridge. Those tanks were removed, yes??  So much has changed since then, and I only moved here a year ago!  
 
Why is almost everyone on this board in their early thirties ??   I think we have struck on a marketing demographic!  
 
Thanks again for the great shots!
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 4:27am
on Mar 18th, 2004, 12:27am, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
old passenger car in Vic yard, March 1985 (anybody know where this ended up?):

 
West Coast Railway Association in Squamish.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 5:24am
slades used to be served by the e&n .the spur was down beside their building .i watched it git seitched a couple times.anybody know when that stopped?
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 11:14am
I was talking to my grandmother on the subject and she remembers a paint factory near Slades that was served by the E and N at one time.  
 
Cheers
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 3:21pm
Whereabouts was that scale track located??
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 18th, 2004, 6:20pm
yup..im sure it was on the same track as the scale.....hey KVR....did you get any photos of the cn freight house yard trackage that was located near the cn\cp junction?you know,just off of esquimalt and tyee road.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Mar 19th, 2004, 2:46am
OK, thanks. I'm going to be getting some pictures of the area for my project. It's similar to the KVR Mileboards written by Joe Smuin.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Mar 24th, 2004, 3:42am
The platform still remains. That station was actually the Victoria station, it was on the site of the original 1886 Victoria(Russell's) station. The Esquimalt station is located at the end of Halowell Rd. in View Royal.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 24th, 2004, 3:55am
if you recall.there used to be a spur branching off from the street by the station ....it served that white warehouse that you can see in the photo and an additional warehouse located where you see the lowrise "villa" style condos in the background-right around the esquimalt road crossing.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Mar 24th, 2004, 2:53pm
Victoria Van Lines??
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 24th, 2004, 6:12pm
ya...i think that was one of the two warehouses.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 24th, 2004, 10:13pm
Duncan turn, December 29, 1992  just north of Chemainus:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 24th, 2004, 10:14pm
December 22, 1992, Nanaimo:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 24th, 2004, 10:15pm
December 22/92, Shawnigan Lake:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 24th, 2004, 10:17pm
Nanaimo switcher just returning to Wellcox, November 29/92:
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 27th, 2004, 8:49am
A grain car hiding in the brush.  Wellcox yard Fall of 2000
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 27th, 2004, 8:51am
Dry Branch Kaolin (I found out that this is a chemical used in the paper mill in Port Alberni)  Wellcox Yard - fall 2000
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 27th, 2004, 8:55am
2099 and friend in the yard.  Wellcox - Fall 2001
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 28th, 2004, 11:53pm
on Mar 18th, 2004, 12:27am, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
old passenger car in Vic yard, March 1985 (anybody know where this ended up?):

As someone else has already remarked, the car ended up at the West Coast Railway Heritage Park in Squamish.  It is a former CPR colonist car, and has been restored to house an exhibit interpreting the role of the railways in settling the Canadian prairies.  While most of the car has been given over to display space, one section will be restored to show a typical colonist car seating section.  The car is now kept under cover and is in much better condition than in its E&N days.
 
Incidentally, there are a few other items of Island interest in the collection, including ex-CN 80-tonner #74, which operated at Point Ellice.  Ex-CN Fowler patent boxcar 427708, was, I believe, also at Point Ellice during the last years of operation there, and a lot of the rail at the park came from the Point Ellice yards.
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Apr 1st, 2004, 1:45am
Ahh... the CPR vegitation management train...PC for weed killer, i remember the very first time it came to the Island and i went to Ladysmith to see it, there was two Caboose's full of guys with suits and ties and the cleanest hard hats i have ever seen, these were the "brass" from head office and when i said to them "gee i bet you never thought you would see steam on the E&N again" i had to duck! what is interesting to note is the two locomotives were pulling the weed steamer not pushing it like later vegitation trains and the steamer itself did not have the little cab on it, do remember another thing  all the crew including hogger Jimmy Sturgill and the conductor had to wear had hats.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Apr 5th, 2004, 9:09pm
on Apr 5th, 2004, 3:32pm, KVR_Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Just out of curiosity, how well did the steam vegetation-control train work?  

 
Better than the trackmower Rail America uses.  
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Apr 6th, 2004, 12:32am
The steam train worked best at a speed of  2 miles per hour but the last couple of times it was used some "bean counter" at CPR said the crew was taking to long and said to speed up and of course it did not work as good... when it was working it seemed to nuke just about anything including broom...an interesting note is that the unit went to Alaska and was tried up there on the Alaska Railroad and that also BNSF was interested in how the system was working but i am not sure if it was used on thier line.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Apr 6th, 2004, 11:28pm
Northbound Parksville Turn pulls into the Wellington Siding for a meet with "Passenger VIA 6148 South".
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Apr 6th, 2004, 11:32pm
Northbound Parksville Turn leaving Wellington after "Passenger VIA 6148 South" had cleared.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: Apr 6th, 2004, 11:36pm
Whoops, almost forgot. Parksville Turn meeting 6148.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Apr 8th, 2004, 9:08pm
An old pic of the CN water tower. Photographer unknown
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Apr 25th, 2004, 3:52pm
Here is some more mystery photos by an unknown photographer from the same set as the ones of the passenger train I postes earlier.   They are simply labelled "Vancouver Island" and I know nothing more about them.   It is cool to see some of the action that went on "back in the day".   I assume it is a coal operation somewhere around Nanaimo, but that's just a guess.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Apr 25th, 2004, 3:59pm
number 2
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Apr 25th, 2004, 4:04pm
number 3
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Apr 25th, 2004, 4:09pm
number 4
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Apr 26th, 2004, 1:28am
Hey Cody  
Those four pics of the coal operations are at Union Bay which was shut down in August of 1960.
As for finding out who took these great photos can you
find out what street the house was on that they came from? if you do ask some of the fellas at the BCRHA like Don Maclachlan or Bob Turner if the knew any railfan who was living on that street...bit of a long shot but you never know.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: May 6th, 2004, 1:40am
All the pics from the pile are posted, give or take a few that were poorer pictures of the same scenes.   I will have another look next time I'm at my dad's to see if I missed anything interesting.
 
The paper used on all the photos is identical, which causes me to wonder whether or not they were all developed at the same time.   It could be that they were still running steam coal operation at Union Bay at the same time the yard pics and the passenger train photos were taken.    
 
Those were the days!  
 
I've attached a couple of pics taken by Richard Slingerland that show wellcox in the nineties.   I think the log trains are interesting.  I wonder if they were unloading them right there in the yard?   The old coach / crew-car thing is neat as well.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: May 6th, 2004, 1:48am
Another shot from the mid nineties by Richard Slingerland
Posted by: Cody Posted on: May 6th, 2004, 11:23am
Those sheds are there still.  In the old tuscan red too.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 6th, 2004, 3:43pm
Very nice pictures  
 
You even managed to catch some of those nice MacBlo Thrall lumber cars in the yard. Does anyone know when the the lumber mill closed in Port Alberni as from what I know this was once an important source of revenue for the E&N. I am not familar with operations in the 1980s but I understand that traffic at times required two Port Turns a day.  I have seen many photos with substantial lumber loadings such as the one below (Sorry I do not who the author is for the attached picture) This picture was taken near Locharkaig. This train seems to be a bit underpowered wouldn't you say.
Posted by: ENRailway Posted on: May 6th, 2004, 3:56pm
on May 6th, 2004, 11:23am, Cody wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Those sheds are there still.  In the old tuscan red too.

 
yep, tool sheds for the mechanics, if they tore those down where would they keep the tools and parts for the Geeps?
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: May 10th, 2004, 1:41am
There are still sawmills in Port Alberni and when Rail America first set up on the island they tried to get the lumber traffic back and there was bulkhead and centre beam cars stored everywhere for awhile but for reasons unknown it did not work out...there was a plywood plant in Port that closed in 1991 and they shipped by rail using the same E&N boxcars that went to Vic ply as well as the M&B thrall cars.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 8th, 2004, 12:28am
I thought it has been a little slow in the photo department, so I have scanned a couple of my own. The photos were taken back in September 1999.
 
The first was taken at the little Qualicum Falls campground outside of Coombs.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 8th, 2004, 12:33am
Cameron Lake
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 8th, 2004, 12:39am
Some shots of ENR 3004 switching the Ioco spur in Port Moody in the Summer of 2000.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 8th, 2004, 12:40am
Switching at the end of the line.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 8th, 2004, 12:46am
Wellcox March 2004
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 8th, 2004, 1:52am
Hey ENR3005,
 
A off-island question.  Is the 3004 switching IOCO?  I thought that refinery was history....or do they still use it for storage?
 
Thanks for the photos......nice train at Cameron!
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 8th, 2004, 2:13am
The train is actually switching the Ioco plant. If you look at the bottom photo one of the crew is standing by the gate into the plant. The line was almost shut down after poor track conditions caused a bad derailment in a residental area. In fact one of the tank cars ended up in the Mayor of Port Moody's living room who ended up suing CP and refusing to let them operate the line until the line was rebuilt.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 5th, 2004, 5:53pm
on Aug 5th, 2004, 5:32pm, KVR_Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The roundhouse is in pathetic shape.  All the bay doors are blocked off except for #1, and in some areas you can see where sections of the roof are missing.  

 
Yep, that's why the City of Victoria is suing CP, they say CP has violated several building codes and the Municipal Heritage Building laws.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Aug 6th, 2004, 9:01am
huh!...you should see ME!...im one of the most "out of place"-looking railfans around!...haha!
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 30th, 2004, 6:27pm
100 lb rail in the Victoria yard.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 30th, 2004, 6:37pm
Back of the roundhouse.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 30th, 2004, 6:41pm
I take it this is where the scale house was.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 30th, 2004, 6:43pm
Victoria yard. The rails here are 100 lb.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 30th, 2004, 6:48pm
Switching the barge.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 30th, 2004, 6:51pm
At Wellcox.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 31st, 2004, 7:05pm
It is interesting to see that the auger operation is still in full effect at Wellcox, with two hoppers spotted there.  Are those recent photos?
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 31st, 2004, 9:20pm
IIRC, the auger is left there year round. The hopper is actually from National Silicates in Parksville.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Sep 1st, 2004, 9:42pm
in that photo anyway,they are actually truck trailers...
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Sep 20th, 2004, 10:14pm
The bargeslip at Wellcox, with it's cheerful paint.     August 2004
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Sep 20th, 2004, 10:17pm
A detail of the bargeslip at Wellcox.   Anyone know how old this structure is?    It looks like it's in pretty good shape up close.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Sep 21st, 2004, 3:51am
on Sep 21st, 2004, 2:34am, KVR_Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
 Does anyone know when the rail barge calls in?

 
Monday mornings. Around 9 or 10 AM.
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Sep 22nd, 2004, 7:18pm
Not quite E&N but Niagara canyon.
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Sep 22nd, 2004, 7:20pm
And a second one.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2004, 3:34am
on Sep 22nd, 2004, 6:14am, KVR_Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Picture from the West Coast Railway Association website. ( http://www.wcra.org/tours/victoria.htm )

 
 
Too bad we won't see that RDC in service again
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2004, 11:31am
Victoria yard, from B&W files.
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2004, 11:33am
And a second.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Oct 6th, 2004, 12:55am
Here is a photo of the Bridge at Milepost 48 near Crofton.   Some fall colour, but sadly no train today.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Oct 6th, 2004, 12:58am
A detail of the bidge deck with river below
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Oct 6th, 2004, 1:02am
Another pic pic of the MP48 bridge in the middle of a rainstorm.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Oct 6th, 2004, 1:08am
Final pic of the four I took of the Bridge today.  Some detail of the construction.   I hope those rivets and those old rusty welds hold-up.   We are putting a lot of faith in the engineering of a by-gone era when we ride the dayliner.   Luckily it seems like these structures were built to last.  Hopefully RA, CP, or VIA is properly inspected the many bridges and tresltes along the line.  Sometimes I wonder if they are just keeping their fingers crossed.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Oct 6th, 2004, 11:27am
Those bridges see regular maintenance and are inspected every few months. The only bridges that aren't are the ones on the Lake Cowichan Sub, because its abandoned and the Port Alberni Sub because its "railbanked".
Posted by: KVR_Fan Posted on: Oct 28th, 2004, 12:33am
An e-mail correspondence garnished a couple of E&N and CNR pics (see the CNR Pics thread) from a gentleman in Arizona.  These were taken by his father.  He also has a personal website of rail related pics and stories (he got a cab ride on a switcher from the roundhouse, on the turntable, and over to downtown Victoria and back in 1963), check out: http://www.shownontheweb.com/RR/html/dispatcher.html
 
Photo by the late Arthur A Noyes of Hamilton, ON/Phoenix, AZ.
Posted by: KVR_Fan Posted on: Oct 28th, 2004, 12:33am
Photo by the late Arthur A Noyes of Hamilton, ON/Phoenix, AZ.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Oct 31st, 2004, 4:00pm
6701 Inside Victoria Roundhouse - 1984
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Oct 31st, 2004, 4:07pm
6702 on CN Interchange track - 1984
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Oct 31st, 2004, 4:10pm
Parksville from cab of 8827 - 1984
Posted by: FZ Posted on: Nov 14th, 2004, 3:09pm
Pix of charter run with NRHS coaches - September 1999
Posted by: KootenayValleyRailway Posted on: Nov 14th, 2004, 9:06pm
thats a pretty good pic FZ! when was it taken?
 
KootenayValleyRailway  
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Nov 15th, 2004, 1:47am
I'm guessing it was just after RailAmerica took over. They ran trains to Courtenay, Victoria and Port Alberni for their board of directors.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Nov 26th, 2004, 4:46pm
Where might I find the E&N route for download? Activities also...
 
Just reinstalled MSTS and forgot how fun it really was, regardless of how 'boring' other people find such a game to be...
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Nov 26th, 2004, 9:25pm
on Nov 26th, 2004, 4:46pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Where might I find the E&N route for download? Activities also...
 
Just reinstalled MSTS and forgot how fun it really was, regardless of how 'boring' other people find such a game to be...

 
 
ENR3005 is still working on the route. I've made a few activities for the route, some based on the current operations, some fantasy ones. ENR3005 also has a few activities for the route.  
 
He sent me a copy because I volunteered to beta test the route for him.
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: Dec 4th, 2004, 12:06pm
Stocketts is actually  (stockett)
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 6th, 2004, 1:36am
Whoops, my mistake. I've corrected the message.
 
Here's 1001 at ICG Propane in Courtenay. No wonder the engineer was in a bad mood, 2099 was out of service, they had to run long hood forward back to Wellcox with 1001.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 6th, 2004, 2:37am
1001 at the south switch at Dunsmuir.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 6th, 2004, 2:38am
1001 at a crossing south of Dunsmuir.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 6th, 2004, 3:10am
1001 on the French Creek Bridge.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 6th, 2004, 3:12am
Turned the 1001 on the wye at Parksville, rather than running all the way back to Wellcox long hood forward.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 6th, 2004, 5:51am
2099 on the Stockett Spur at Stockett, heading north. 2099 is still a work in progress, I still have to paint the running boards and pilots.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 6th, 2004, 5:54am
Heading onto the north leg of the wye at Stockett.
Posted by: EvergreenRailfan Posted on: Dec 25th, 2004, 11:05pm
I was up in Victoria in November, here are some pictures  I took of the E&N VIA Depot while I was there. Unfortunately, the Malahat was not around. I only had 4 hours.
Posted by: EvergreenRailfan Posted on: Dec 25th, 2004, 11:16pm
Victoria Station, from across the street.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Dec 28th, 2004, 10:52pm
i have no idea....maybe it was taken in port alberi...i heard there was a couple excursions to there in the old days after regular service ended.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 29th, 2004, 2:43am
I may be wrong, but I don't think 9107 was used on the E&N. If that shot is on the E&N, it could be the 9103, 9105, or 9199. If it is a shot of the 9107, I don't think it's on the E&N. From all the sources(books) I've seen, the 9107 was one of the regulars on the Kootenay and Kettle Valley trains, and later the Edmonton-Calgary run.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 31st, 2004, 3:17pm
The lack of other buildings in the area would suggest somewhere else besides the station in Victoria. I'm thinking it's either in the Alyth yard, or outside the Ogden Shops in Calgary.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Dec 31st, 2004, 3:30pm
Prehaps a cross post to the CP forum asking where the picture was taken might work.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Dec 31st, 2004, 4:41pm
The location has been identified. It's outside the roundhouse in Edmonton.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Jan 5th, 2005, 5:04am
Just a note of interest, CP 9107 is still working for VIA. It's VIA 6215 and runs on the Sudbury-White River route.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 3:11am
Here is a small set of pictures in Victoria from July of 1991.  Sorry the quality is not the best, thought they might be of some interest.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 3:13am
Victoria, July 1991
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 3:16am
Roundhouse door size comparison
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 3:17am
View out the open door
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 3:18am
The yard
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 3:20am
Me and a tank car (I presume propane)
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 3:21am
Budd in the roundhouse
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 3:23am
Inside the roundhouse again from the other side; are there two Budds in there?
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 3:46am
One more of 6713.
Posted by: KootenayValleyRailway Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 4:42am
those are great pictures of the roundhouse! anyone know where the 6713 is now?
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 4:40pm
6713 was converted to a slug in 1993, currently numbered 1015 - Source Cdn Trackside Guide
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 9:36pm
Nice photos!!! It seems so wierd to me to see cars in the Victoria yard! That track that the tankers are on, when the PAW was in town I had to dig out all the ballast between the ties. That was a back-breaking job, but I loved it because I was working for a Railroad. Those photos of the 6134, I think there was just the one budd in the roundhouse. I don't think the 6135 showed up until later, in the early 1990's as did the 6148 and the 6133 was probably being used on the train that day. The 6134 was wrecked in 1992 when it slammed into an empty propane tanker truck, bending the frame.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Jan 12th, 2005, 3:56am
Just before Store St. service ended I think, could be wrong though. I was only about 8 years old at the time. Someone like CP8673 or 95XXX would probably know.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Jan 12th, 2005, 3:59am
Snow at Langford. I stood here wondering why the Malahat hadn't gone by yet, at 9:00 AM. Before I realized they were on the ground in Esquimalt.
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: Jan 12th, 2005, 11:24am
I know some of the history but I've only been on the Island since 1987.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Jan 12th, 2005, 12:57pm
The E&N stopped running down Store St. in 1992. 6701 was the regular, but when CP sent it to Coquitlam for maintenance other units like 6713, 6718, and maybe an SW1200RS or two, was sub'ed in for it.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jan 12th, 2005, 2:44pm
The usuals (after Alcos and Baldwins went the way of the dodo) were 6701 and 6702.  Unfortunately, as my records of what was here come from MBS Clearances, the odd train order and the train register from Hayward.  I can't say anything specific about when a particular switcher was here.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jan 16th, 2005, 1:30pm
Wellcox yard in the fall of 1997. I still see the 3005 working daily here in New Westminster doing it's interchange duties with SRY, BN and CN.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Jan 17th, 2005, 1:36am
note the two boxcars  on the mill spur lead.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jan 17th, 2005, 9:22pm
Not too sure what those two boxcars were doing there. I don't think the mill was using rail service but you never know. I know the Coastland mill just South of the yard received boxcars from time to time during the early 90s.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jan 18th, 2005, 2:34am
I will give CP the credit of keeping a clean property and maintaining the ROW to acceptable standards. Here are a couple more that were shot in the summer of 1995.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jan 18th, 2005, 2:37am
The only unit sitting in the yard that day. Both a Courtenay and Port Turn had left a couple of hours earlier and I had no time to chase them as I had to catch a ferry back to the mainland.
Posted by: challenger3985 Posted on: Jan 27th, 2005, 2:00am
Pacific Wilderness Railway in wellcox yard
Posted by: challenger3985 Posted on: Jan 27th, 2005, 2:02am
Pacific Wilderness Railway #2
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Jan 29th, 2005, 4:13am
Nice shots.  
 
 
 Here's the north end of the Langford Siding.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Feb 5th, 2005, 12:24am
Snack bar on 6148. I find it interesting that VIA would rather waste the space with a snack bar that's never been used(since 6148 showed up on the E&N) than having the extra seating. There's no food service on the E&N, it doesn't make sense to have a snack bar taking up space that could be used to carry more passengers.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2005, 3:47pm
6135 at Nanaimo today
 
First try with the new camera
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2005, 3:49pm
Lunch Time on the E&N
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2005, 3:53pm
6135 - Waiting for departure in Nanaimo
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2005, 3:55pm
6135 Leaving Nanaimo
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 8th, 2005, 5:22am
Caught 6135 Southbound in Nanaimo today
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 8th, 2005, 5:23am
Second shot
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 8th, 2005, 5:25am
Heading down to Wellcox, I heard another train - 3870 was coming out of the yard.  This was taken just before he crossed the old island highway
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 8th, 2005, 5:29am
Caught up to them again at Superior Propane in Nanaimo
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 8th, 2005, 5:31am
Backing in to the plant
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 8th, 2005, 5:33am
Stopped
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 9th, 2005, 11:52am
Nice photos, I especially like the switching shots which is something not many people do. Here is a photo I found from the G.Ferguson / Motis Collection of a pair of geeps at Wellcox back in the early 80s. 8668 has one of the more unique schemes applied to some units during that period.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 11th, 2005, 12:56am
Here is a couple of pics of 3870 slamming though Nanaimo long-hood forward and the homeward treck to Welcox.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 11th, 2005, 12:58am
And another pic I took this February, 2005 of 3870 longhood forward near Wellcox.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Mar 11th, 2005, 1:05am
So they DID fix the rear number board that got toasted in January
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 11th, 2005, 2:53am
The reason I put it in the photo is because I find it interesting as well.   I think it was served by the railway at one time.   If you walk around it all the doors and building angles suggest a historic spur.    Was it a feed mill or something?
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 11th, 2005, 7:22am
from what i haerd,it was indeed a feed mill of sorts....ive seen it ever since i was a child and walked around it myself....there is no doubt that the railway served it....i would say probably right up until at least the late 70s.otherwise this structure would probably be gone by now.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 11th, 2005, 12:52pm
That would be  the old Farmers Co-Op which had a 334 ft spur at one time according to Dave Wilkie's milepost guide. A shot from Hugh Fraser's video from 1989 gives a brief glimpse of where the spur might have been with a small pile of ties and disturbed ground by the white car.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 11th, 2005, 7:09pm
neat screen capture.
 
It would be great if another feed operation started up on the Island with rail access.   Maybe some more traffic could be found for the Victoria sub.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 1:31am
6148 heads north out of Langford in the snow.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 1:34am
6148 heading down to the depot in Victoria on a Sunday morning.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 1:38am
Heading north through the Victoria yard, shot from the park overlooking the yard and shops.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 1:41am
Another shot of 6148 heading north through the yard.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 1:44am
6148 arriving at Langford.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 1:49am
6148 pulling out of the shops. 6130 and 6133 look on.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 1:52am
Out the back of 6148 nearing Duncan, running along the Koksilah River.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 1:55am
Nearing Ducan, near mile 37. Negotiating a sweeping S-curve.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 2:00am
Remains of the Duncan shops.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 2:02am
6148 at Nanaimo.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 2:05am
6148 at Courtenay, shot while the crew grab a bite to eat and get the train ready for the trip back to Victoria.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 19th, 2005, 11:04pm
Interesting shots out of the back of the RDC.  It's those out-of-the-way places that people who have never taken the Dayliner are missing out on.
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:27am
March 3rd, Malahat flag stop
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:29am
2nd Malahat looking from "road" side
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:30am
Cobble Hill, March 3rd
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:32am
Hillbank, this one is for you.  
March 3rd
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:34am
Cowichan Station
March 03
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:36am
Detail of sign
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:40am
March 3rd, Chemainus
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:41am
Duncan, March 3rd
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:42am
Duncan timetable, March 3rd
Posted by: Bear_Creek Posted on: Mar 26th, 2005, 11:44am
Wellcox, March 3rd with the crew working on 3809
Posted by: KVR Fan Posted on: Mar 27th, 2005, 3:36am
July 1984.  Jon Bentz photograph.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 28th, 2005, 11:36pm
Two questions regarding the shot of the SW in the vic west yard:
 
What do you think would have been in those boxcars in 1989?
 
Did the rails still run into the freighthouse for unloading to those trucks?
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Mar 29th, 2005, 1:17am
There was several places recieving incoming boxcar loads at that time, Kelly Douglas, Garden City, Standard Furniture, also the ramp at the roundhouse would get car loads and CN was still getting the odd car, the plywood mill was going then and the crews would often switch it on thier way south, there was no track at that time going to those frieght houses, also in the picture did you notice the three potash hoppers near the roundhouse? those were brought down to use as idlers when switching Garden City though most times the crews just used empty boxcars.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 29th, 2005, 2:12am
"idlers" for garden city?...that sounds strange.....Ive watched the crews switch garden city at least 15 or 20 odd times throughout the 80s and beginning of the 90s and ive never seen them use those cars....the cars you are talking about are actually clay slurry cars...there were six of them against the car shop and they were there for years...i think they went back up north in two seperate mooves...around early 1990 or late 89 i saw a northbound pass throo langford with a few of them in the head end consist.....im still interested about the concept of crews using idlers to reach garden city though....ive seen the switcher go right in there solo to retrieve a boxcar....was there a concern at one point about too much weight on the old trackage at that spur?....regarding potash,i see it shipped in standard 100 ton covered hoppers nowdays.  The last time i ever saw cars unloaded at the cp transport warehouse in the vic west yard was the end of 70s...it might have continiued on sometime after that but i dont recall...those two parallel spur tracks were torn out by the early-mid 80s.
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Mar 30th, 2005, 12:23am
After the rebuilding of the store street trackage the crews found switching Garden city sometimes diffcult i was there when they put a QC boxcar on the ground, i know the crews were concerned more with the heavier units and you are correct that the switcher could run in on its own and grab a car, i was told by several crew members that those cars were brought down for idlers in fact there was several old flat cars used  before them...i was told they were old potash cars...these are not to be  confused with the car loads of clay slurry that was brought down to load onto the oil rig at Esquimalt, those were diffirent cars (and very heavy) getting back to idlers etc i found many times it was "diffirent strokes for diffirent folks" with the E&N crews some crews would bring thier Duncan and Cassidy empties right into Victoria other crews would leave them at Koksilah, they would sometimes take cars from Wellcox as idlers for thier train as well, several times i saw them use M&B thrall door cars or empty clay cars, they would roll South through Duncan the night before and North the next day, idlers were sometimes used to reach into the gas spur at Langford.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 30th, 2005, 1:27am
Hillbank,
 
Do you know where the oil rig was drilling?
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 30th, 2005, 2:35am
ok...thanks hillbank.that does make more sense to me.....after the rebuilding of store street's track,was that curve through the parking lot a tighter radius than previously?...i never had the  fortune of watching any GP unit switch there although i hear it had been done on  several occasions.I do recall seeing the vic turn with many empties picked up from the gas dealer in cassidy and i know there was at one point,some regulation concerning  having to use a spacer car between a locomotive and a propane tank or btween a caboose and propane tank.i lived in langford as a youth and the propane dealer was the easiest place for guarenteed railfanning 3 nights of the week,not to mention the moulding mill ,the coremark warehouse and even transloads made on the town siding.
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Mar 31st, 2005, 1:39am
Hey Torch, thats true the curve into Garden City was alot tighter after the store street rebuilding, it sometimes gave the crews in the GPs  trouble another problem they encounted was switching the larger cars there, the 40 ft,s were no problem but the large newer cars with diffirent draw bars.
When a train had only popane cars in its consist it did not need idlers however if there was one or more non propane cars there had to be car or cars between the engine and between the Caboose, sometimes there would be a single boxcar for Victoria but several propane or LPG cars so the crew would have to take an empty from Wellcox or if they had set out loads at Duncan would grab an empty grain car, if there was a water car on it could be counted as an idler.
Hey Cody the oil rig was down from Alaska i know there was several that were worked on by the shipyards in Victoria over several years in the late 80,s one train brought in 11 car loads of the clay (drilling mud)
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Apr 9th, 2005, 1:17am
Hey Mark,
 
Is that a ballast train behind the excavators?   That would be quite a good sized M.O.W. train for the Esquimalt and Nanaimo
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Apr 9th, 2005, 1:23am
The excavators on the flats were for construction of the Vancouver Island Gas pipeline, a number of cars were unloaded at the ramp at Parksville, the ramp is located on the short team track on the Port sub, there was some heavy equipment that was also unloaded there for the inland highway construction, pipe for the gas line came over by rail to Wellcox to be unloaded or by truck from Vancouver, alot of people could not understand why CP did not unload some of the carloads of pipe at Cobble Hill and Malahat as the pipeline was being built a few miles away.
great pics and thanks for posting them.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Apr 9th, 2005, 1:31am
Welcome to the group Mark. Those excavators where probally offloaded at the team track and used for the Island highway project which was being carried out at that time. The Parksville yard was sort of a staging area for heavy equipment and supplies for the highway project. Lots of other heavy equipment and materials were also brought in. Numerous steel and concrete bridge girders were tranported and offloaded in the small yard. I have some photos from 1991 or 1992 somewhere of two boxcars being unloaded at the same spot. I believe they were unloading steel rebar.  
 
Hope to see more pictures like this in the future!
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Apr 9th, 2005, 1:45am
on Apr 9th, 2005, 1:17am, Cody wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hey Mark,
 
Is that a ballast train behind the excavators?   That would be quite a good sized M.O.W. train for the Esquimalt and Nanaimo

 
 
During the late 80s and early 90s I always seemed to see a string of hoppers stuck on one of the sidings. I believe they were still loading ballast at Dunsmuir at that time. There were a good dozen of them stuck in the siding by the team ramp when I visited in the winter of 92. In the summer of 88 I rode the dayliner which passed a ballast train that exceeded the length of the siding next to the old Buckerfields in Parksville. That was something to see!
Posted by: Mark J Posted on: Apr 9th, 2005, 12:14pm
on Mar 29th, 2005, 1:17am, hillbank wrote:       (Click here for original message)
...also in the picture did you notice the three potash hoppers near the roundhouse? those were brought down to use as idlers when switching Garden City though most times the crews just used empty boxcars.

 
So that's what was up with those stubby hopper cars.  I often wondered about those.
 
When I took that picture I was 14 years old, that one is one of my favorites.  My brother and I were lucky enough to have had the opportunity to ride the freight train from Nanimo to Victoria and back.  We rode the second unit, 5019 south bound and 3009 north bound.  I've got some pictures of the trip, mabye I'll get around to posting some soon.
 
Cheers
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Apr 12th, 2005, 1:30am
thanks again Mark...did you get any pics of the steam (weed) train that CP had on the island?...regarding the ballast trains, i rode one once that had 22 hoppers, some trains also had on a few air-dumps as well, the balast Pit at Fiddicks was where CP used to get thier ballast and 18 cars could be loaded at a time, i to saw loaded hoppers at Parksville sidings  and a hogger told me that sometimes a few loads of ballast were needed as required and either the Courtenay or Port turn would grab them and spread then where needed....a good time to catch a ballast train was just after the tie gang had been over and there was many meets with both frieght and passengers...anybody got pics?
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Apr 13th, 2005, 1:02am
Great shots Mark! We are in the process of moving for the next week so I have not been able to see whats going on, but from what I see keep the great posts. Our place sold a month quicker than I thought it would so we are scrambling to get things packed. While packing stuff I found some more early 90s E&N photos and a ton (200+) photos from 2000 and 2001 that I shot of remaining operations in the southern BC interior. I will be scanning these and posting them when I get settle again. The BC interior stuff will end up in the CP Discussion forum unless a dedicated forum is created before then.  
 
It would be nice to have some shots of a ballast train. Helmut Wisinger has some shots of a ballast train in Nanoose Bay on one of his videos, other than then that I have never seen any photos. The only ballast train I have seen in operation was during my first trip on the dayliner back in July 1989 when I was 12. My parents dropped me off in Courtenay and sent me up to Victoria to stay a friend for a week. Along the way we cought up to a long ballast train (20+ hoppers) in front of us on the East leg of the Parksville wye. Our crew brought the dayliner to a stop short of the train and got out to talk to the work crews as to how we were going to get past the ballast train. There was track equipment stuck in the siding and on the main of the Port Sub and Victoria Sub. To make matters more difficult the train itself exceeded the length of the station sidings. The crew ended up deciding to throw the switch for the wye, we then backed up past the switch and then moved onto the wye just short of the switch next to a huge pile of rotten ties. The ballast train with it's three 38s then proceeded to backup past the east wye switch with enough room for us to pull out. We then backed up onto the main again and then proceeded to the station. I was amazed that day by the amount of equipment and work being done. I wish I had a camera back then.
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Apr 19th, 2005, 1:45am
I seem to recall a video where it is showing the Victoria turn switching Fiddicks pit, there was other E&N operations on it as well, cannot remember that date but it was after the cabooses were dropped, i do remember that meet at Parksville though in 1989! i had a scanner then and Murphys Law was working very well that day for the unfortunate crews, there was lots of shouting going back and forth among the tie gang the section crews and the train crews, also there was a new dispatcher out of Vancouver on that day that made things even worse.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Apr 26th, 2005, 1:18am
on Apr 19th, 2005, 1:45am, hillbank wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I seem to recall a video where it is showing the Victoria turn switching Fiddicks pit, there was other E&N operations on it as well, cannot remember that date but it was after the cabooses were dropped, i do remember that meet at Parksville though in 1989! i had a scanner then and Murphys Law was working very well that day for the unfortunate crews, there was lots of shouting going back and forth among the tie gang the section crews and the train crews, also there was a new dispatcher out of Vancouver on that day that made things even worse.

 
That video scene is part of the Rails On Vancouver Island video and it was shot in the late spring of 1994 around the time the Canucks were making a run for the Stanley cup as you can see by the Brakeman in one of the shots sporting his Canucks playoff t-shirt. No E&N and no NHL hockey what is this world coming to  
Posted by: Mark J Posted on: Apr 26th, 2005, 5:01am
on Apr 13th, 2005, 1:02am, ENR3005 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
...While packing stuff I found some more early 90s E&N photos and a ton (200+) photos from 2000 and 2001 that I shot of remaining operations in the southern BC interior. I will be scanning these and posting them when I get settle again. The BC interior stuff will end up in the CP Discussion forum unless a dedicated forum is created before then...

 
How are things coming along?  I hate moving, looks like we will be moving soon too, what a pain in the neck.  
 
I was just wondering if you could mabye post a few shots you have found.  Where are your shots from the BC interior taken?  Perhaps we could use the 'Crowsnest pass and area photos' thread, or start a new one, what ever.  I have tons of recent pics of the Windermere and Cranbrook subs as well as some from the Moyie sub and eastern end of the Nelson sub.  This summer I am planning to tag along with the McConnel turn and ride a freight along Kootenay lake into Nelson just for the sake of doing it.  This is a night run so I'll have to wait until the days get longer to be able to take any pictures.
 
Later...
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Apr 26th, 2005, 1:15pm
on Apr 26th, 2005, 5:01am, Mark J wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
How are things coming along?  I hate moving, looks like we will be moving soon too, what a pain in the neck.  
 
I was just wondering if you could mabye post a few shots you have found.  Where are your shots from the BC interior taken?  Perhaps we could use the 'Crowsnest pass and area photos' thread, or start a new one, what ever.  I have tons of recent pics of the Windermere and Cranbrook subs as well as some from the Moyie sub and eastern end of the Nelson sub.  This summer I am planning to tag along with the McConnel turn and ride a freight along Kootenay lake into Nelson just for the sake of doing it.  This is a night run so I'll have to wait until the days get longer to be able to take any pictures.
 
Later...

 
 
The moving went great other then my computer desk falling apart into 10 million pieces - mental note never buy a particle board desk again. I ordered a new one on the weekend which should arrive today some time. When I get all my stuff unpacked in my new office over the next couple of days I will start scanning the pics and posting them under a new thread in the other forum. There is a little bit of everything, the locations are Grand Forks, Warfield, Trail, Castlegar, Fruitvale, Nelson, Slocan Junction, Cranbrook, Kimberly, Canal Flats, Golden, Lumby, Vernon, Sicamous, Revelstoke, Kelowna and a couple others.  
 
I look forward to seeing the photos of your future trip.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 1st, 2005, 1:17am
Awesome shot Mark!
 
Seeing some of Tyler's great photos at lunch today made me want to unpack our stuff a little quicker and get some of mine posted. After digging through 20 boxes this afternoon I finally found the photos and will start scanning and posting them tomorrow on both sites.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 2nd, 2005, 1:33pm
Here is a shot of the E&N's future office. Prior to being renovated as an office it was used as repair facility for the CP Transport truck fleet on the island from what I understand. Shot was taken in October of 1997.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 2nd, 2005, 1:42pm
A shot that I took of GP9R 8236 during my tour of the yard with the manager back 1992. I had justed missed going out on the Port turn for a day trip due my parents being unavailable to sign a release form letting me go along for the ride. That was the only time they ever let me down while growing up  
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 2nd, 2005, 1:50pm
A shot of a ballast hopper and freshly ballasted track at Parksville junction. Cp sure had some weird ideas on what do use as ballast for E&N track at least it was pit run sand on this occassion but not much better.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 2nd, 2005, 1:59pm
Here is one of my favorite boxcars that CP owned and used on the E&N. There 20 or so of these ex Milwaukee Road boxcars that were assigned to the E&N from the late 80s to the mid 90s before they were sold to a shortline in the US. They were some of the largest and heaviest boxcars used on the E&N at that time. These cars were responsible for turn rails on the Wellcox spur more then on one occassion.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 2nd, 2005, 2:05pm
Port Turn September 1999, 19 cars if I remember correctly
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 2nd, 2005, 2:16pm
What do you do when a unit or two craps out on your Port Turn? You send a rescue unit. I caught this unit at Parksville at sun down back in Sept 1999 and followed the lone unit all the way out to Cameron Lake and by that time it was dark. The Port Turn had stalled somewhere along Cameron Lake and the lone unit was sent to shove on the tail end of the train judging by the amount of noise I heard echoing off the mountain walls in the darkness. I missed seeing the Port Turn due to me having dinner with some friends, so I have no idea what units and tonnage the train had. It would have been cool to get a shot of an E&N train with a helper. It would have been like one of those Warfield hill shots.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 2nd, 2005, 2:22pm
Here is the longest train I ever saw on the Island. There were 41 cars on this one. Photo was  taken Sept 12, 2000.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: May 2nd, 2005, 5:28pm
41 cars, five short years ago........................I would be happy with 14 cars.   Lets hope the new operator can get 50% of that traffic back.
Posted by: KVR Fan Posted on: May 7th, 2005, 10:32pm
West end of Cameron Lake siding (in background) showing westbound #2813.
 
Photographer and exact date unknown.  It was taken after a hike up a ridge on the north side of Cameron Lake and was using the r.o.w. to get back to his car when the train came along.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: May 11th, 2005, 6:55pm
The Coastland veneer mill in Nanaimo with unused siding.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: May 23rd, 2005, 1:27pm
on May 22nd, 2005, 2:10am, Mark J wrote:       (Click here for original message)
This thread has been rather quiet as of late so here is another one of my shots taken at Wellcox sometime in 1991.  I believe this was just after the freddy's took over from cabooses and this surplus equipment had not found a home yet.  The wheels on the vans to the left are rusty but the wheels on the van to the right still appear to be shiny.  I'm pretty sure that the scale house is right behind the second caboose on the left...

 
Might have been earlier than when they started Cabooseless operation over here, as the first 2 vans on the left are older ones that they quit (regularly) using earlier when they got the ones with the wider cupolas.
Note this is strictly going from memory and I may be wrong on this
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Jun 13th, 2005, 11:46pm
December 29, 1992:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Jun 19th, 2005, 11:19pm
Dec 26/92:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Jun 19th, 2005, 11:20pm
Dec 26/92:
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jul 7th, 2005, 5:22pm
A collage of E&N pics.  I was playing with a new piece of software.
 
Bob Winkler
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 7th, 2005, 6:29pm
on Jul 7th, 2005, 5:22pm, B_Winkler wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A collage of E&N pics.  I was playing with a new piece of software.
 
Bob Winkler

 
Bob, you do an excellent job there
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jul 15th, 2005, 8:34pm
Was driving through Parksville today....
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jul 15th, 2005, 8:36pm
The boys were doing some maintenance.....
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jul 15th, 2005, 8:38pm
They were pretty friendly, dont see much action anymore
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jul 15th, 2005, 8:42pm
I asked them about upcoming changes.... and they said they didnt know much but the rumour was that the change if any, would happen in September.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jul 15th, 2005, 8:44pm
The tracks are ok but there is a general look of no use (To be expected of course)
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jul 15th, 2005, 8:45pm
These four tank cars are looking pretty lonely
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jul 16th, 2005, 3:34am
Nice set of shots, B_Winkler.  Anybody know how many m.o.w. crew are on the payroll on the Island?   I was wondering if the "E&N Railway" sign on the doors of the truck is current?   Is the truck a C.P. truck?  or an R.A. truck?  Looks like they might be salvaging whatever is left to them out of that compound before the changeover.   Just a guess.
Posted by: KootenayValleyRailway Posted on: Jul 17th, 2005, 10:11pm
he those are some great pics! keep em coming!
Posted by: KootenayValleyRailway Posted on: Jul 19th, 2005, 7:31pm
here are some pics i have recently recieved from my uncle.
 
here is a mix of power
Posted by: KootenayValleyRailway Posted on: Jul 19th, 2005, 7:32pm
offloading at welcox
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Jul 19th, 2005, 8:28pm
I know its off topic, but can anyone tell me when CP stopped using the covers over DB grids on their GP-38's?
Posted by: torch Posted on: Jul 19th, 2005, 10:26pm
i dont think they actually 'stopped'. I believe they just went on to order the 38-2s. Two of those locos in that picture  are gp 38 - 2s and are of a younger heritage. The original in the shot is a gp 38 ac.   You may already know that but i thought id mention that for the heads who arent familiar.   cheerios!
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Jul 19th, 2005, 11:31pm
I took this picture today at Langford siding. These are loads of dust control liquid, right?
 
Boring picture, I know, but there isn't exactly a lot of action around here...
 
Posted by: KootenayValleyRailway Posted on: Jul 20th, 2005, 1:23am
another mix of power
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 20th, 2005, 1:46am
kootenayvalleyrailway that is a totally great shot of the mixed power!  It shows the CP multimark colours, E and N railfreight subsidiary livery, and a RailAmerica unit all at the same time.  It is like the recent history of the E and N all in one photo!    
 
Your uncle recorded a real slice of history with that one.
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Jul 21st, 2005, 1:59am
I was  wondering what year that mix power pic was taken. Was it 98 or 99, during the transition from CP to RA?
 
Thanks
 
Aaron
Posted by: KootenayValleyRailway Posted on: Jul 21st, 2005, 2:33am
on Jul 21st, 2005, 1:59am, Coastrail wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I was  wondering what year that mix power pic was taken. Was it 98 or 99, during the transition from CP to RA?

 
i dont know for sure but i would guess most likely 98.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Jul 23rd, 2005, 12:09am
Check out Wellcox in this pic...taken today.
There are a BUNCH of freight cars in the yard. Not sure which segment of the yard this is, but I took this picture from the bridge. I couldn't get any closer up pics because I had to chase a train...
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Jul 23rd, 2005, 12:11am
There were more around the corner.
 
I also noticed all these new ties and pile of balast...
 
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Jul 24th, 2005, 8:38pm
Tankers at Koksilah,taken the day of the very late Victoria turn...
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Jul 24th, 2005, 8:40pm
other angle...
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Jul 24th, 2005, 8:42pm
Blue tanker with hose for unloading attached. It was being unloaded the day I was there. What a cool colour for a tanker, as opposed to black/brown or white.
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Jul 24th, 2005, 8:44pm
Tankers at the Langford siding. This area was my old stomping ground as a teenaged railfan in the late 80's. You can still see the remains of the ICG spur a little to the north of this spot...
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Jul 24th, 2005, 8:46pm
yet another angle,
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 30th, 2005, 3:28am
I thought I'd add my entry to the group if "boring" pics of tank cars.  These are two at the somenos, hayward junction siding.   One appears to be dust control and one is an ENR water car.  The burro and flatcar are also there.   The "new" rails on the flatcar are stamped Algoma 1935.   Oldies but goodies.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 30th, 2005, 3:31am
The ENR Burro.   My favourite example of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".   I think this unit shows great pride of ownership .    Someday I am heading up with a can of tremclad and a brush.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 30th, 2005, 3:35am
The dayliner kicks up dust passing the tankers.  Anyone know what the maximum speed is heading out of duncan?   The RDCs were just flying past at full throttle.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 30th, 2005, 3:40am
Burro self-propelled crane and flatcar.   Takes a licking and keeps ticking.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Jul 30th, 2005, 6:46am
thanks for the pics,cody. i really like the one with the dayliner roaming throo the "grassy fields" !
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 1st, 2005, 1:33am
It' a cool sight you only see around these parts!  At times the dayliner looks like an articulated bus rolling along a grass country road.  It is truly the 4X4 of the rail industry.
 
I traveled to Nanaimo yesterday and back today on the Dayliner with my wife and children.   All I can say is it was totally great.  So great in fact that I recommend it to everyone, especially at this time of year when both directions run in daylight.   For the five of us to travel return to Nanaimo was $90 bucks for the whole bunch.  The adult charge to Nanaimo and back is @$30.00.  Cheap cheap entertainment and no stress.  It is hard to believe that all that scenic trackage between Nanaimo and Victoria exists for Top shelf feeds and a few lucky persons in the RDC.    
 
It was a full train for the trip up on Saturday, and was half full this afternoon.  
 
On my second run on the line I was more aware of a few things and had fun noticing the bits of rusty rail taking off into the bushes at all the old spurs and junctions.   Thanks to everyone on the board who posted the whereabouts of these old places on Railfan.net. 
 
I was really impressed with the amount of fills and cuts required over the malahat.   I am certain there is not a straight piece of track on naturally level ground on the whole hill.
 
I strongly recommend to anyone at all interested to make the run soon.  The current format of half-full cars, free-for-all seating, cheap prices, and RDC equipment, is in it's twilight.  It is very worth the money and I think change is on the way.   The scenery was gorgeous in the summer sun.
 
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 1st, 2005, 2:34pm
on Jul 30th, 2005, 3:35am, Cody wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The dayliner kicks up dust passing the tankers.  Anyone know what the maximum speed is heading out of duncan?   The RDCs were just flying past at full throttle.

 
Max. permissable speed is 40 MPH.
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Aug 1st, 2005, 10:57pm
MP 104 Monday Aug 1st Budds were jsut a humming past us....fast!
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Aug 1st, 2005, 10:58pm
tailend
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 1st, 2005, 11:44pm
Great pics!  I got a few glances out the front window on my trip when the conductor left the door open.  All the engineer sees is two steel rails and a whole bunch of greenery.   The ties and ballast are not visible for the most part.
Posted by: Mark J Posted on: Aug 4th, 2005, 6:44am
Great photos Cody and Nick, those weeds are taking over!
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Aug 4th, 2005, 1:49pm
It almost looks like a green tunnel in the second photo   Thanks for the photos.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 1:34am
Here are some pictures from my trip last weekend.   Thankfully we did not hit a gravel truck, though it seems to be a highlight of many persons trips.  On the news there was a lady who had been on board during both collisions.
 
The first photo is nanaimo station
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 1:36am
a picture of a truck on a Budd RDC (for those who like such things).
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 1:38am
Looking back at the Arbutus Canyon trestle
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 1:39am
looking ahead to the niagara canyon trestle
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 1:41am
looking down from the niagara trestle
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 1:46am
my little railfans have a laugh over the VIA barf-bag
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 1:50am
In the lap of luxury, complete with art-deco armrests.  My daughter gets 4 seats to herself in the half-full RDC.  One of the virtues of taking the train with kids.......and no restraining child carseat!
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 1:58am
A view looking down on Finlayson Arm.  It gives an idea of just how much elevation is gained on the way up from Victoria at sea level.   At times the track is literally perched on a shelf of rock and gravel with the steep forested slopes falling away at near vertical angles.
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 6:36pm
on Aug 5th, 2005, 1:36am, Cody wrote:       (Click here for original message)
a picture of the one powered truck on a Budd RDC (for those who like such things).

 
Cool photos! Just a minor correction, both are powered, only one axle per truck is powered.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 5th, 2005, 6:58pm
Yes Tyler, you are right.  I had a brain lapse
Posted by: KVR Fan Posted on: Aug 13th, 2005, 2:36pm
Sorry for the picture size.  Somewhere on Vancouver Island, July 1953.
 
http://haijonrails.com/catalog.html
Posted by: KVR Fan Posted on: Aug 13th, 2005, 2:38pm
#985 backing up flat car, moving an auto and some crew.  July 1953.
 
http://www.haijonrails.com/catalog.html
Posted by: KVR Fan Posted on: Aug 13th, 2005, 2:40pm
Baldwin DRS 4-4-1000 on the Port Alberni line(?).  July 1953.
 
http://www.haijonrails.com/catalog.html
Posted by: KVR Fan Posted on: Aug 13th, 2005, 2:41pm
Parksville, BC.  July 1953.
 
http://www.haijonrails.com/catalog.html
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Aug 14th, 2005, 2:57pm
Wow! Those are definately some rare shots of the Port Alberni Passenger train! BTW, what VIA car is that, 9306? Heh, here I thought 6130 was the only Phase 1 RDC that VIA used on the E&N.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Aug 19th, 2005, 1:34pm
Great pics! There's a pic of 3005 at Alyth in the July/August Branchline, in the new paint..not nearly as nice as the green, but at least its nice and fesh.
 
When the green paint scheme appeared in 96, I immediatley wrote CP to get the Pantone colours etc. for the paint scheme, they where more than helpful(as I always found CP to be, even though they've been involved in more than enough questionable activity when it comes to line abandonmentst etc.), and sent me all the diagrams and colour info..had dry transfers made, and did 3004. never did finish 3005...mostly because at the time, there were no HO non -2 38's to be had, so it was kitbashing, ran out of time.
Always thought that was on of the nicest contemporary paint schemes around
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Aug 19th, 2005, 6:17pm
Great pics Mark, thanks for sharing them.  It always cool to see the yard full of box-cars on the Esquimalt and Nanaimo Railway.   I am guessing they were transporting rolled pulp out of Port Alberni?    
 
Always a bit depressing thinking how down-hill things went from there.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Aug 19th, 2005, 6:43pm
on Aug 19th, 2005, 1:34pm, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great pics! There's a pic of 3005 at Alyth in the July/August Branchline, in the new paint..not nearly as nice as the green, but at least its nice and fesh.
 
When the green paint scheme appeared in 96, I immediatley wrote CP to get the Pantone colours etc. for the paint scheme, they where more than helpful(as I always found CP to be, even though they've been involved in more than enough questionable activity when it comes to line abandonmentst etc.), and sent me all the diagrams and colour info..had dry transfers made, and did 3004. never did finish 3005...mostly because at the time, there were no HO non -2 38's to be had, so it was kitbashing, ran out of time.
Always thought that was on of the nicest contemporary paint schemes around

 
I would love to see some pictures of that model...do you have a layout?
Posted by: Mark J Posted on: Aug 21st, 2005, 1:54am
on Aug 19th, 2005, 6:17pm, Cody wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great pics Mark, thanks for sharing them.  It always cool to see the yard full of box-cars on the Esquimalt and Nanaimo Railway.   I am guessing they were transporting rolled pulp out of Port Alberni?    
 
Always a bit depressing thinking how down-hill things went from there.

 
Not sure exactly what was being shipped at this point but obviously they were still running to Port Alberni.  This is how I remeber the Wellcox yard, you are definately right Cody, very depressing looking at it now, even on a busy day.  Here's hoping somone with a go get 'er attitude gets to run things, with the freedom to make changes and do whatever it takes to make things work.  We shall see...
 
Where was that picture taken Richard?
 
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Aug 21st, 2005, 2:48pm
on Aug 21st, 2005, 2:05am, Mark J wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here's one...since freddy's were new back then I snapped this...sorta neat to see the explosives placard on the boxcar.  Explosives haven't been mentioned as a viable cargo but mabye could be good for a couple car loads a year, who knows.  From where to where do you think this car was going?

 
That car was more than likely picked up at the Buckley Bay spur right in front of the ferry terminal for Denman Island. Explosives were used for the island highway project  during the early to mid 90s. Cars were dropped off almost weekly at times during peak construction periods. There is a picture that I posted in this forum a couple of years back that has an empty explosives car, two LPG cars and three 38s as power coming through Parksville.  Here is a shot of the spur where they left the cars sitting to be unloaded.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Aug 31st, 2005, 7:22pm
on Aug 19th, 2005, 6:43pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
I would love to see some pictures of that model...do you have a layout?

 
 
 
Here's a few, not great, was in a hurry..
 
 
http://www.eunos.ca/albums/obscure/fred_005.sized.jpg
 
http://www.eunos.ca/albums/obscure/fred_006.sized.jpg
 
http://www.eunos.ca/albums/obscure/fred_001.sized.jpg
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Oct 17th, 2005, 7:26pm
E&N 2-4-2T No.9 on the service track in Victoria next to some coaches lettered "Esquimalt and Nanaimo". This is the track that 6133 was sitting on, the one they'd stick the motive power for the Victoria Turn on when they layed over in Victoria. W.E. Butler photo
Posted by: ENR3870 Posted on: Oct 17th, 2005, 7:31pm
E&N 4-6-0 464 at Parksville. Note 2nd yard track not yet put in. CPR photo.
Posted by: Toran W Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2005, 1:01pm
Nice picture of Hillcrest #10. If your wondering about the location of the Robertson river bridge, it is located on South Shore Road in Lake Cowichan between Mesachie Lake and Honeymoon Bay. The Climax was most likely going to switch the Western Forest Industries Mill at Honeymoon Bay. It breaks my heart to see those pictures though. Of the four lumber mills that were located on Cowichan Lake not a single one is still in existance. The last, the Youbou Mill, closed in 2002 after 73 years of continuous operation. It was truely a sad day in the Cowichan Valley.
Posted by: craigolio Posted on: Dec 5th, 2005, 2:06pm
[. The last, the Youbou Mill, closed in 2002 after 73 years of continuous operation. It was truely a sad day in the Cowichan Valley. [/quote]
 
 
 
I know this isn't exacttly the correct thread, but I am modeling a portion of vancouver island and wanted to use Lake Cowichan and Youbou in my model.  Does anyone have any decent shots of the Youbou mill, the wier at Lake Cowichan or the CNR trestle that crossed Wellington Rd. At least I think it was Wellington Rd.  Anyway, the CNR trestle that DOESN'T cross the river.
 
Thanks, Craig
Posted by: Toran W Posted on: Dec 6th, 2005, 1:18am
Craig,
 
There is a book writen by Wilmer Gold, an industrial photographer, who spent most of his career shooting the Youbou Mill, and the Industrial Timber Mills camps (ITM Owned the Youbou Complex, and became BCFP in 50's) at Caycuse and Nitinat. I know the CNR bridge which you refer to, it is your basic trestle design (still standing in place over the street today) I will try and get a photo for you if i can. I Believe you can still walk most of the CNR right of way, save for places where houses have been built along the lake shore and over the ROW.
 
Also a little info on the weir incase you didnt know, and want some background info for your layout. The Lake Cowichan Weir was built in 1957 by British Columbia Forest Products to controll water flow to the newly constructed mill at Crofton. The weir keeps the lake level at around 62 million cubic metres in the summer months. In the spring and early fall Catalyst Paper controlls the water flow to a targeted level of 7 cubic metres per second. In winter the water may rise to an average of 3 meters above the flood controll gates. The Weir also consists of a Boat Lock to allow small boats to enter the lake or river.
 
as for the Youbou Mill, depending on the period, the mill consisted of a regular cutting Head rig, and a seperate planer mill. Also on site was a large 1/2 mile electric craneway for lumberstorage (it once held the record for the longest crane way in the british empire). In addition to the craneway, the mill aslo had a covered shed craneway for dry storage, along with several warehouses. I will take out the book tomorrow and post some pictures when i can, to save you the trouble of trying to find it.
Posted by: craigolio Posted on: Dec 6th, 2005, 1:14pm
Thanks for the reply.  I spent many summers of my youth swimming in the duck pond and know the town well.  I just wish I had taken pictures.  The trestles are both gone now, except for the reamins of the one over the Duck Pond which is now a foot bridge.  For my modeling of the mill, I had planned to use it as a back drop model so if you have any pics of it from the Hwy or from the tracks leading in that's really what I need so I can create a reasonable replica for a back drop.  Thanks very much looking for photos for me.  if you are able to find one I could use a picture of the BCFP logo as well.
 
Thanks, Craig
Posted by: Toran W Posted on: Dec 7th, 2005, 4:11pm
Hey Craig,
 
Here's a picture of the Youbou Mill for you, i apologize for the poor quality. The date of this picture is un known to me, but judging from the cars in the picture it is about the mid 50's. Picture is copied over from Logging As It Was by Wilmer Gold.
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Dec 29th, 2005, 4:17am
Caught them switching Superior Propane on the way home, December 27 2005.
Posted by: KVR Fan Posted on: Dec 30th, 2005, 1:29am
Photographer unknown.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Dec 30th, 2005, 2:03am
That caboose was a relic in 1977!
 
If a new short line operator ever takes over the E and N I guess we might see the return of the Caboose to the E and N as many seem to run them.   Then again the trains are so short I can't figure why they would need one.
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Dec 30th, 2005, 3:09am
It would be fun to see cabooses back. Trains still don't seem right without them.  
 
Cheers.
 
J\
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Dec 30th, 2005, 9:13am
Well, if it is Washington group and SRY that takes over the E&N, we might get cabooses back- SRY runs them.
Posted by: KVR Fan Posted on: Jan 1st, 2006, 5:25am
Not sure about the accuracy of this date.  I thought VIA took over in 1978.  
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jan 1st, 2006, 2:01pm
They did, but repainting of equipment wasn't immediate.  I don't think we got any Via painted Budds over here until 80 or 81
Posted by: 606SC Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2006, 12:20am
For those that have not yet seen it, a great photo of Port Alberni depot under construction was posted by BC Archives recently:
 
  http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/www2i/.visual/img_med/dir_185/i_68069.gif
Posted by: Toran W Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2006, 2:00am
I'm not sure where to put this so i'll post it here.  
 
I was doing a little arial railfanning and research via Google Earth and saved an image of the Russell round house. Hope you Like.
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2006, 11:31am
It seemed a little washed out so I cleaned it up a little.
 
Cheers.
 
J\
Posted by: Toran W Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2006, 2:12pm
Found another good Google Earth Image that sparks my curiosity. The E&N mainline runs through the center of the picture, with what looks like a spur that would go off behind the building with all the trailers. This is all just northbound of the langford siding. My question to you, is it a spur and what customer was it?
 
Edit: you also notice above the Mainline a deffinet green space where a spur could be added to service possible customers!
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2006, 6:07pm
Cool pics, thanks for sharing.
 
It's the old Coremart Distributing warehouse spur. In the 80's it was a huge food distributer, getting 4 or 5 boxcars at a time. In the early 90's E.H. Pope, a bakery inside the warehouse, would get the odd boxcar of bagged flour  from the northbound Victoria local.
 
After the warehouse converted to trucks the spur was  chopped past the rear parking area,  Pacific Wilderness railway used it to store thier equipment, rather than pay CP Rail 800 bucks a day  to use the Vic yard.
 
Heres a photo (taken by VicGuy) showing a boxcar of flour for E.H. Hope, dated January 29 1993. The rails in this area are now gone, having been paved over for truck access.
Posted by: boxcar Posted on: Jan 19th, 2006, 1:21am
there still is a big food distribution place there....cormark i think, maybe they could end up getting rail back the only thing though is the spur has been paved over.
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Jan 19th, 2006, 2:59am
There is a new road being built adjacent to the Coremark building. In my quick look there the road encroaches the spur at an angle to the point that little if any of the spur could be rebuilt. I didnt go back to where the door was but I would doubt it being useable anymore. I will go back and check again.
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Jan 19th, 2006, 3:06am
Edit: That green space in the above image is now part of the Alpine Disposal empire. The images on Google Earth are rather dated.
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jan 19th, 2006, 6:19pm
I may have mentioned this before but I learned from someone who works for Alpine that the company actually trucks all it's garbage to a landfill in Vancouver because it's cheaper than using the Hartland Road facility here. Depending on where the landfill is, that might be a potential industry for the railroad.
 
This was a year or more ago, not sure if they still are doing this.
 
Cheers.
 
J\
Posted by: boxcar Posted on: Jan 23rd, 2006, 3:10pm
ALpine trucks are easy to spot, white w/ yellow & green trim, pulling tri axle trailers that look like wood chip trailers. They used to take bc ferries not sure if this still is the case.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 11th, 2006, 9:15am
Was in Courtenay the other day and took some photos of 6135 at the end of the line
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 11th, 2006, 9:17am
Closeups of the signage
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 11th, 2006, 9:19am
Loading up
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 11th, 2006, 9:24am
Rust everywhere
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Feb 11th, 2006, 10:46am
Excellent pictures B_Winkler. Nice to have you back.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 11th, 2006, 12:10pm
Heading for Nanaimo
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: Feb 11th, 2006, 12:49pm
on Feb 11th, 2006, 9:24am, B_Winkler wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Rust everywhere

Thats not rust its dirt ,the trucks are actually black.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 11th, 2006, 1:20pm
on Feb 11th, 2006, 12:49pm, 95XXX wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Thats not rust its dirt ,the trucks are actually black.

 
I stand corrected.  Rust colours everywhere.
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Feb 11th, 2006, 6:21pm
Welcome back B_Winkler, I"ve always enjoyed your photo contributions.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 18th, 2006, 11:06pm
Was out enjoying the (rare) sun today and took these in and around Wellcox.  Someone was asking about the state of 2099.   Here is 2099 with the twins in the background.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 18th, 2006, 11:08pm
Not much activity or equipment around the buildings
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 18th, 2006, 11:12pm
Waiting for the next railbarge
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 18th, 2006, 11:15pm
Mower waitiing for spring
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 18th, 2006, 11:18pm
Not a very good photo but there seems to be about 30 cars in long term storage in the yard.  Some of them have been there for a while
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 18th, 2006, 11:21pm
Heard the dayliner coming through Nanaimo and went over to Seventh St. just in time to see 6148 coming through the crossing
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 18th, 2006, 11:23pm
And then it was gone on its way back to Victoria.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 18th, 2006, 11:28pm
If anyone wants the full 5 megapixel photo files of any of these shots, let me know and I will happily forward it to you.  
 
Bob Winkler
Nanaimo, BC
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Feb 18th, 2006, 11:31pm
Nice pics.  A good document of things as they are now.
 
Wading into the very critical 'rust vs. dirt' debate.   I would argue it is rust.   Rust that has been ground off the railhead and sprayed onto the trucks by the wheels.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Feb 19th, 2006, 1:14am
Thanks for taking the time to take and post the pictures.  
I hope my trip in a couple of weeks is as sunny as that day!
Posted by: Mark J Posted on: Feb 19th, 2006, 6:49am
Nice to see some up to date pictures, thanks for posting Mr. Winkler.
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: Feb 19th, 2006, 12:56pm
Rust ground off and sticking to other things would be dirt wouldn't it?
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Feb 19th, 2006, 2:25pm
No offense intended, but I don't think this debate  of "rust vs dirt" was worth discussing in the first place.  
 
Time to move on?
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Feb 19th, 2006, 5:16pm
I've asked the webmaster to consider a "rust vs. dirt" forum for railfan.net.   I think the subject has loads of potential.
 
 
 
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 19th, 2006, 5:41pm
This argument is too down and dirty for me.  I am still a bit rusty after being away for a while
Posted by: Dave_Stevens Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 12:10am
This posting is totaly out of content..
 
Bob. did U buy the house that was my wifes moms on Pryde Ave.
 
DILLIGAF. Landlubber Pub
 
Dave
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 1:27am
on Mar 3rd, 2006, 12:10am, Dave_Stevens wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Bob. did U buy the house that was my wifes moms on Pryde Ave.

 
 
So how is Wendy anyway?  Nice to see you on the board Dave.  Drop me an e-mail sometime and let me know how you guys have been  
 
bwinkler@shaw.ca
 
Bob Winkler
Nanaimo BC
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 7th, 2006, 11:49pm
I chased the Dayliner down Island yesterday (March 7th 2006) on my way back from some work in Nanaimo.   I was wondering how much longer things will be as they are.   Thought I would take some pics.
 
First pic is North of Chemainus
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 7th, 2006, 11:50pm
At Chemainus
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 7th, 2006, 11:52pm
Top Shelf
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 7th, 2006, 11:54pm
Near Shawnigan Lake
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 7th, 2006, 11:55pm
Thetis Lake overpass.   Almost home!
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Mar 8th, 2006, 12:04am
Looks like you had ringside seats for the overpass shot
 
Very nice shots Cody, thanks for sharing.
 
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Mar 10th, 2006, 2:15am
Very nice shots.   Nice to "sortof" see what we looked like that day, except that my wife and I went up Island on the 7th, on #6135, and then stayed in Courtenay overnight, and came down on #6135 again on the 8th.
Two things:  I have three pictures of engine happenings in Nanaimo on the southbound run of the 8th, which I will post soon, and, forgive my confusion and ignorance, do they run two different Budds each day?
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Mar 10th, 2006, 3:40pm
Thanks guys.
 
Unless there is problems, the same Budd that goes up Island comes back.   Home port is Russels Roundhouse in Victoria.   Nightly maintenace is performed there, as is the storage of extra/unused RDCs.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:13pm
Went by Wellcox today and caught the barge being unloaded.  About 15 cars were taken off.  
 
This first pic is the twins backing down to the railbarge
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:16pm
Backed all the way down
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:22pm
Cars are coming off
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:25pm
another shot
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:28pm
The flat cars are looking a little rough
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:31pm
Life in the rain forest
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:33pm
Heading into the yard
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:35pm
I wasnt the only one watching
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:38pm
remnants of another time ...
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 9:43pm
A logo we wont be seeing much longer
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 10:10pm
Hard to believe with all the rusty little used rail around that they considered ripping up the Port sub to fix the Vic sub. Nice pix, B_Winkler.
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Mar 13th, 2006, 11:06pm
Great shots B_Winkler!
 
 
How early in the morning did the barge come in?
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Mar 14th, 2006, 12:06am
I was down there about 9:30 AM and they were just starting to unload the rail cars.  i dont know when the barge came in.  I would have stayed to the end but i ran out of camera battery and personal heat about the same time.  It was cold down there this morning.  
 
Bob
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2006, 1:59am
Very interesting barge series, thanks for catching the action, B_Winkler.
 
Here's a trio of pix taken while waiting in Nanaimo. Apparently one engine cut out on the way down, and the boys came out to have a look.  The only one who got his hands really dirty was the conductor himself, a friendly fellow named Jeff.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2006, 2:05am
The guys kept talking about a valve sticking, and tried restarting several times to no avail, so we carried on under limited power.  The engineer was maybe trying some tactics to persuade the old girl to keep going as just out of Shawnigan lake there were some short bursts of high engine revving and whining coming from the engine compartment.  We kind-of crawled up the Malahat, and at one point about two thirds up the Budd simply got tired and just sat there for about three minutes.  It got us over the top eventually allright and into Victoria about 45 minutes late.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2006, 2:20am
Lifting the pan into place.  This was on March 8, 2006, southbound.
 
The day before, after I asked quite a few reasonably intelligent questions about the Dayliner operations, the conductor said that he would have let me into the front to ride cab with the engineer, except that the ICF was doing efficiency evaluations, and he didn't want to risk anybody official seeing non-crew members up there.
He ended up talking to the engineer anyway, and I got to stand up front for the better part of Duncan to Ladysmith.  Pretty cool to see things as they come to you, not just out the side as they go by.
Posted by: Mark J Posted on: Mar 24th, 2006, 9:47pm
Does anyone have any shots of the barge itself?  Or perhaps the slip on the mainland?
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: May 7th, 2006, 6:22pm
Budds approaching North switch, Langford siding...
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: May 11th, 2006, 9:34pm
Tank cars at the Langford siding
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: May 11th, 2006, 9:39pm
nice to see freight cars this far south...
Posted by: Cody Posted on: May 12th, 2006, 12:41am
Cool pics.   I wonder if that dust control agent would kill all that Scotch Broom.
Posted by: JNewall Posted on: May 20th, 2006, 12:01am
I'm new here...
 
Found alota shots of the Roundhouse via a google search...
 
http://www.brian894x4.com/ENRussellroundhouse.html
 
(Photos by Brian McCamish, not me, I should take pics soon)
 
Includes the Holt Creek Trestle (I think its that one), steel bridge near Gov ST X-ing in Duncan.
 
I live in Duncan as well...
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: May 20th, 2006, 11:56am
Welcome to the forum, JNewall. I think we should all be taking pictures of the E&Ns historical structures like the roundhouse and the like. The reason the roundhouse still looks like it did 40 years ago is mostly neglect by its owners. Its privately owned now, and part of a future highrise project site. Take some pictures while it still looks like it does. The future is often unkind to the past.
Posted by: tr1467 Posted on: Jun 10th, 2006, 8:51pm
cn over cp at koksilah (Duncan)
CN last Run on tidewater Sub
The meet was staged we (CN) had to wait about an hour for CP to arrive, the CN crew who I was riding with didn't care though it was the last run
Posted by: tr1467 Posted on: Jun 10th, 2006, 9:14pm
picking up the 8427 at Ladysmith
Posted by: tr1467 Posted on: Jun 10th, 2006, 9:17pm
followed this one from Hayward where the 06 died
Posted by: tr1467 Posted on: Jun 10th, 2006, 9:27pm
tail end at hayward old CP lake cowichan line junction
Posted by: tr1467 Posted on: Jun 10th, 2006, 9:34pm
cpr 3001 -3006 at Hayward near Duncan BC
3006 died so they had to run around with 01 and run back to Wellcox long nose first have more pics that I will post of this later
Can't remember the date I took pic maybe 1988-90
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Jun 10th, 2006, 9:47pm
Excellent pictures, TR1467. That stuff is gold! Some of the younger railfans might not even remember the CN/CP era on VI.  I cant remember a colour picture of the staged meet during the last run of CN1000 to Cowichan Bay. Thanks. Oh, by the way, welcome to the forum.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 10th, 2006, 11:31pm
Thanks for the great pics TR1467 and welcome to the forum. I look forward to seeing more.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jun 14th, 2006, 4:04am
Please scan up some more if you have them!  Thanks for sharing, tr1467, and welcome.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 18th, 2006, 9:31pm
I was traveling North on Thursday the 15th, when I caught the Duncan turn at Top Shelf.   I had a work schedule to keep so I couldn't chase it back to Wellcox (darn it), but I snapped a couple pics on the fly.
 
Check out the plant life!
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 18th, 2006, 9:34pm
second pic:  empties and full hoppers coupled for the switching move.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 18th, 2006, 9:36pm
Third pic.  Making the drop deep in the mill.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 18th, 2006, 9:38pm
fourth pic: a little further in.
Posted by: Baby_Huey Posted on: Jun 18th, 2006, 10:31pm
Nice pics. Heh, almost as many weeds as Thornton yard  
Posted by: torch Posted on: Jun 19th, 2006, 1:34am
these are my  favorite top shelf pics  ive seen yet.  check out that old blue transport truck in this shot..thats some vintage right there even.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 19th, 2006, 2:30am
Thanks guys,
 
I wish I had the chance to follow it North.  
 
All in all it was nice to see RA in action before whatever change might be coming happens.  I was surprised that they spotted the hoppers right into the mill.   I had the impression that Top Shelf did most of the shuffling themselves.   Someone once posted that they did some moves with a truck or something.  I can't remeber.
 
That truck is very old-school cool.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 3:46pm
Was down at Wellcox today and caught the new power coming off of the railbarge.  
 
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 3:54pm
110 and 119 on the Island
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 3:58pm
This is 110
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 4:02pm
This is 119
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 4:10pm
At their new home on the shop track
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 4:14pm
SRY was there watching their new operation
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 4:24pm
Hopefully we will see much more of this type of activity in the yard
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 4:28pm
Hopefully we will see much more of this type of activity in the yard.  This picture is misleading.  It is actually the tail end and the GP9's are not powered at all.  The twins (GP38's) are leading and way up around the corner just out of sight
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 5:39pm
Great pictures Bob! Thanks. So are the Rail America twins still here? I assume so.
 
Cheers.
 
J\
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 6:08pm
Yes, they're still here...
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 6:25pm
on Jun 26th, 2006, 5:39pm, Jason King wrote:       (Click here for original message)
So are the Rail America twins still here? I assume so.
J\

 
 
I would think they will be here and operational until the official switchover at the end of the month.
Posted by: ENR_fan Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 9:18pm
Wow, great pictures everyone! I like the SRY colour scheme, very cool!
Let’s hope this historic day is a prosperous turning point for the ENR, I have no doubts that SRY has the determination and means of making this railway operate in the black. It's just a shame that the neglect went as far as it has... ohwell nothing that a hefty investment can't make better.
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Jun 26th, 2006, 10:48pm
Yes, a hefty investment is definetly needed. On the way up from Victoria there were places along the route wjere you could not even see the rails because of the neglect.
 
   I met quite a few people while down at Wellcox today and it was a recurent theme among everyone on how Washington group must have something big under thier sleeve to even undertake an operation like this.
 
Sure learned the true value of this site  when I met quite a few people, who, for various reasons, can't join the site but value everyone's contributions and enjoy it for what it's worth.  
 
Truely a great day of railfanning on the E&N
 
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 27th, 2006, 1:38am
Awesome guys, just awesome.  
 
The paint is great.  What a nice foot forward.
 
Check out that goofy tank car with all the hoses in front of them.  Who's getting that? Is it a insecticide car  ?
Posted by: Baby_Huey Posted on: Jun 27th, 2006, 1:42am
on Jun 27th, 2006, 1:38am, Cody wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Awesome guys, just awesome.  
 
 
Check out that goofy tank car in front of them.  Who's getting that?

 
 
Looks likes a Cement car. I see them at Thornton yard all the time.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 27th, 2006, 1:48am
I'm sure you right Tyler, but for a moment I thought they might have brought their own "Round-up" with them.   Lord knows they'll need it.
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 1:28am
Shot of the roundhouse, probably taken about '95.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 2:10am
Wellcox Yard October 1997
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 2:11am
Wellcox Yard July 1995
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 2:12am
Wellcox Yard April 1993
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 2:13am
Port Alberni September 6, 2000. This unit was filling in for the mill switcher which was dead.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 2:17am
Parksville December 22, 1992 - I wish I had run a little faster from my parents condo at the Madrona which was about 3km away  . Railfanning as a kid was tough work  
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 2:20am
National Silicates December 23, 1992
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 2:22am
Parksville Industrial Spur December 23, 1992.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 4th, 2006, 1:18am
I joined the joggers, dog-walkers, meth-heads, crack-addicts, and drunks for a stroll in Wellcox on Sunday.   The Canada Day party was still in full swing in the bushes beside the yard.
 
First Picture:   Motive power line-up for the Esquimalt and Nanaimo's "transition period".
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 4th, 2006, 1:21am
Second pic:  
 
Out with the old and in with the new.  I have to admit the RA geeps look a little more brawny than the new SRY units, though they may be mechnically duff.   Hopefully the new units are "sleepers".
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 4th, 2006, 1:23am
The business end of 119.  What's the deal with the red dot?   The 119 has one on both ends, and the 110 only had one on the long hood.
Posted by: cessna152towser Posted on: Jul 5th, 2006, 5:00pm

Budd RDC 6133 at Nanaimo, October 1987.

Budd RDC 6133 at Qualicum Beach, October 1987.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Jul 5th, 2006, 6:14pm
i ll post  some of  these  now. a couple of you guys beat me to  the  punch with the fotos of  the  day of the  sry unit's  arrival!  pretty much the same pics as you guys took. lol I  didnt  get back home til a couple  days ago. heres the  first one
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Jul 14th, 2006, 3:28pm
more
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Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Jul 21st, 2006, 1:01am
A shot of the BlueBirds 110 and 119 holding hands at Chemainus, July 18, 2006.
 
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 21st, 2006, 10:09pm
I caught the Duncan turn at Top Shelf on July 20th.  What started as perfect timing for my work travel North, turned into a waiting game.
 
It seems "Rudolph" of the infamous "Blue-birds", suffered some sort of failure as they were getting ready to go.   The train stopped, and the Rudolp was swapped for a long-hood forward "Tank-top"  (these are goofy nicknames).
 
Both diesels were blowing smoke so I don't know what the deal was.
 
Here are the photos.
 
First photo:  False start in the leafy greens
 
Interesting note:   Tree behind diesel is a massive Black Walnut (Juglans Nigra), native to the eastern U.S. and southeastern Canada, and a bit of an oddity for the Island.   Wild Black Walnuts of millable size are now so rare, and valuable for their decorative rock-hard wood, that they are subject to poaching from private forest lands in America.   The poachers have even gone so far as to use helicopters to make off with the wood.  
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 21st, 2006, 10:19pm
Second pic:
 
With 119 suffering from it's "tremclad tune-up", 110 charges North long-hood-forward.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 21st, 2006, 10:23pm
Third Pic:  Ladysmith
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 21st, 2006, 10:26pm
Pic 4:  Train approaches Cassidy.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 21st, 2006, 10:30pm
Final pic.
 
Kicking up dust on a Northbound Granger run:   The Southern Railway Vancouver Island on July 20th, 2006
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Jul 22nd, 2006, 12:17am
Great pics! Really like seeing that paint scheme instead of Rail   Americas. So how long till we see some new customers signing up?
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Jul 22nd, 2006, 2:33am
Love the "Great Northern" Long Hood Forward pics!
 
So why does Thomas the Tank Engine have a red parson's nose?
 
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 22nd, 2006, 4:07am
That's great Pyronova.  So it's Thomas and Rudolph.  I can live with that level of silly.
 
Long-hood-forward always rocks! (except I guess for the crew) .  Maybe someone should go paint a little white "F" on the frame rails at the long hood end.
 
I think I posted this pic before, but here it is again:  Vintage long-hood action from the "twin".
Posted by: torch Posted on: Jul 23rd, 2006, 1:28am
actually cody, i  take the blame on that...i made up the  'rudolph' name.. i  just cant  get past the  red dot..i know  it  MUST have  some sort of purpose.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jul 23rd, 2006, 1:50am
Isn't it the symbol for the Japanese airforce?   Zeros at 12 O'clock!!
 
The Rising Sun:
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jul 26th, 2006, 4:11am
Washington Corp. is actually owned by a Japanese consortium of commuter rail companies, hence the red dot.  They will be running 200 mile an hour maglev trains from Victoria to Courtenay soon.
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Aug 9th, 2006, 10:45pm
Meet at Chemainus this morning. A guy is waiting to throw the switch to let the Duncan turn continue. This pic is huge.
Posted by: boxcar Posted on: Oct 3rd, 2006, 10:33am
are the RA units + the 2099 still there?
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Oct 3rd, 2006, 12:48pm
They were still there yesterday.
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Oct 4th, 2006, 12:04am
Rear shot of SRY 119 while it was at the Esquimalt Roundhouse during the E&N Railway Days. Does anyone know if this was the first time the SRY engine(s) have been this far south?
p.s. sorry about the massive size of the photo!
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Oct 17th, 2006, 12:30am
6148 arriving Victoria today.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 17th, 2006, 12:40pm
6133 sitting in the Class yard at CN's Thornton yard.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 17th, 2006, 12:41pm
another one of VIA 6133 at Thornton yard.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Nov 10th, 2006, 10:51am
Put this together with pics from this forum.
 
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Nov 12th, 2006, 4:16am
on Nov 10th, 2006, 10:51am, B_Winkler wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Put this together with pics from this forum.
 

Yay! I see one of my pictures in there  
 
on Nov 10th, 2006, 11:19pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hey that's neat.  If SRVI ever puts out a company calendar, they gotta come here.

The Washington Group of Railways put out a yearly calendar for all thier employees with pictures taken by their railway employees so I bet the SVI employees will be getting one too, unfortunatley only employees can sumbit....I've got a few that in saving up to submit  
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Nov 14th, 2006, 4:43am
Nice Job, B_Winkler!
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 14th, 2006, 2:53pm
Great piece of work, would make an excellent calendar B_Winkler.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 15th, 2006, 5:51pm
From the archives.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 15th, 2006, 5:56pm
Another from the files
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Nov 15th, 2006, 6:24pm
Great pictures Gordon. I never knew RailAmerica pulled a prime mover out of any of their engines while on Vancouver Island. Some of their stuff was kinda junky but their GP38s should've been better than that. A true piece of E&N memorabilia .
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 16th, 2006, 5:07pm
MORE FROM THE ARCHIVES  Getting generator changed out
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 16th, 2006, 5:09pm
same
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 16th, 2006, 5:10pm
another
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 16th, 2006, 5:12pm
This unit was repaired just before it was moved off the island.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Nov 16th, 2006, 8:05pm
on Nov 16th, 2006, 5:12pm, baldwincp wrote:       (Click here for original message)
This unit was repaired just before it was moved off the island.

 
Brilliant.  Make the ENR numbers look worse and then send it  to PSAP.  I forgot, bigger tax break fixing it here than in the states.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 17th, 2006, 4:33pm
How things have changed.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 18th, 2006, 4:53pm
Going back in time
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 18th, 2006, 5:10pm
Another
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 18th, 2006, 5:25pm
Another one.  Time to go and do some work now.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Nov 19th, 2006, 1:41pm
Probably the late 60's.  I will try and find out when I go to work when the shop etc. was built.  The office I work out of is not built yet.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Nov 27th, 2006, 2:26pm
on Nov 26th, 2006, 12:52am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
... former E&N crane and tender up at the Prince George rail museum.

 
Here is a close up of the deck of the flatcar....
Posted by: challenger3985 Posted on: Nov 29th, 2006, 9:33pm
A shot of the fixed signals while waiting for the Dayliner to arrive at the station.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Dec 18th, 2006, 4:17am
Way cool photo, CLC
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Dec 18th, 2006, 9:29pm
I agree, that is a cool pic. Very interesting perspective.
Posted by: Mark J Posted on: Jan 13th, 2007, 2:59am
GP35 5019 and GP38 3009 along with their cab parked at Esquimalt while the crew was off duty in the summer of 1989.  In the morning they would head back up to Wellcox.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jan 18th, 2007, 11:09pm
I was cleaning of the hard drive on my old computer today and I came across these. They were some pictures that Jason King sent me a few years back. Jason, I hope you don't mind if I post these up here.  
 
A pair of Baldwin-killers on what looks like a meet at Koksilah. Imagine that, 2 freights meeting somewhere south of Nanaimo.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jan 18th, 2007, 11:10pm
NB freight on Niagara Canyon Bridge.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jan 18th, 2007, 11:13pm
Somewhere on the E&N.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jan 18th, 2007, 11:15pm
NB Freight passing what looks to be the Esquimalt Siding(covered in broom)
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jan 18th, 2007, 11:17pm
Portage Inlet? Check it out, you can actually see the ties and ballast!
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jan 18th, 2007, 11:19pm
Near Vic Plywood?
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jan 18th, 2007, 11:21pm
SB switcher at Esquimalt? Back in the good old days when there was enough traffic in Victoria to actually have a yard job/switcher.
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Jan 19th, 2007, 2:09am
Nice pics, probably the early 80s. Well it is at least before 87, as they starting using GP38s that year.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jan 19th, 2007, 6:54am
on Jan 18th, 2007, 11:09pm, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I was cleaning of the hard drive on my old computer today and I came across these. They were some pictures that Jason King sent me a few years back. Jason, I hope you don't mind if I post these up here.  
 
A pair of Baldwin-killers on what looks like a meet at Koksilah. Imagine that, 2 freights meeting somewhere south of Nanaimo.

 
In those days, the freights would run from Victoria and Wellcox to Koksilah, swap trains and go home, plus the Nanaimo crew would have to switch Top Shelf.  This would be more interesting than a meet.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jan 19th, 2007, 7:04am
on Jan 19th, 2007, 2:09am, Coastrail wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Nice pics, probably the early 80s. Well it is at least before 87, as they starting using GP38s that year.

 
Lets see - 8800's that would make it mid 80's.  Before that we had 8600 series GP9s here until 84 or 85
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jan 19th, 2007, 1:57pm
on Jan 19th, 2007, 6:54am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
In those days, the freights would run from Victoria and Wellcox to Koksilah, swap trains and go home, plus the Nanaimo crew would have to switch Top Shelf.  This would be more interesting than a meet.  

 
Yes, that is exactly right, and the first picture in that series of mine was taken while standing on the engines that brought the train up from Victoria. I was lucky enough to get a ride up and back one time.
 
The rest are all taken, as suspected, near Portage Inlet, or down behind by the old Victoria Plywood spur as I lived in that area. Time frame is mid 80's.
 
Cheers.
 
J\
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jan 19th, 2007, 6:25pm
I got to ride the freights several times in the 80's - mostly out of Wellcox, but there was one or 2 hoggers out of Vic (I remember names but won't post them for privacy reasons) that would let me ride along.  Unfortunately most of my pics from that time did not survive.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Jan 31st, 2007, 2:19pm
Well look at that!! the nose made it over there!..that is great to see. Last I saw it, it had been turfed out of the "museum" in Squamish(along with ALOT of other salvaged  RS3 parts, most were scrapped)!!, where it had been put for safe keeping after being rescued when the 4 RS-3 hulks were sent north for scrap...it, and the rear hood section of RS18 630(saved for potential use to put the high short hood back on RS10 586 in PG, or to return a BCR RS-18 to original cosmetic condition one day) wound up sitting in the bush near the MOW sheds across form teh old sation site in Squamish. I had been planning on going to look if they were still there..great to see 576s short hood wound up where it was intended to go!
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Feb 8th, 2007, 1:11am
Here is a 20 year-old plus picture of SRY-VI 110:  
 
ex-MRL   110 (1897)
exx-BN   1897
exxx-NP  280
 
Posted by: CNR_1000 Posted on: Feb 8th, 2007, 9:37pm
Well i never new that SRY-VI 110: was a ex BN loco, thanks for the picture  
 
Anyway i got some photos from a few months ago of RDC 6135 coming back from nanaimo refurbished, but was attached to a freight train! going down to victoria,anyways enjoy.
 
#1
 
Posted by: CNR_1000 Posted on: Feb 8th, 2007, 9:40pm
#2
 
Posted by: CNR_1000 Posted on: Feb 8th, 2007, 9:41pm
#3
 
Posted by: CNR_1000 Posted on: Feb 8th, 2007, 9:42pm
#4
 
 
Well thats all for now!
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Feb 8th, 2007, 11:53pm
I got a chuckle out of pic #2.
 
If you wanted to mess with someone's mind, you could add the caption:  "VIA Rail announces new freight service on Vancouver Island", or "Passengers forced to ride in covered hoppers with RDCs back east for repairs".
 
Great pics!
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 13th, 2007, 1:55am
Caught the dayliner at Selby St in Nanaimo a couple of weeks ago.  The lights and bells went off, I grabbed my camera and got a couple.
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 13th, 2007, 1:58am
Heading North in the snow
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 13th, 2007, 2:00am
Coming up to the crossing
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 13th, 2007, 2:03am
Took some shots of 6135 sitting at Wellcox - February 9 2007
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 13th, 2007, 2:05am
Another shot (wider angle)
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 13th, 2007, 2:06am
Last one for today
 
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Feb 13th, 2007, 3:44pm
Those shots of the dayliner in the snow are great. The snow really gives a different feeling to the look of it, hides the condition of the track & r.o.w.
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Feb 20th, 2007, 8:11am
Not actually on Vancouver Island BUT its related.....I was heading through the Dockyard in New Westminster when i spotted the 6135 being coupled to some cars in the CN interchange so i snapped a couple shots.
Posted by: boxcar Posted on: Feb 20th, 2007, 11:21am
i think that funny the car right behind the dayliner is loaded with ground up spare animal parts from the processors in calgary. the wclx hoppers run from here to vanc.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Feb 20th, 2007, 7:20pm
Nice pictures B Winkler.   Global warming in full effect.
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Feb 20th, 2007, 10:23pm
Great pictures B Winkler.
 
Nice picture, North 49. Any idea if the RDC is heading towards Tilbury?
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Feb 20th, 2007, 11:35pm
on Feb 20th, 2007, 10:23pm, FSD8014 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great pictures B Winkler.
 
Nice picture, North 49. Any idea if the RDC is heading towards Tilbury?

 
I doubt it's going to Tilbury. We don't head out there anymore and Tilbury traffic is hauled into Vancouver for BNSF to handle. I heard it's going to VIA Vancouver for repairs to the damaged truck. I'm not sure what it is doing at the docks unless CP dropped it at Trapp yard.
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2007, 7:24pm
Late 90's in P ville
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2007, 7:37pm
On the Port sub
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2007, 7:39pm
same
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2007, 7:40pm
same
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2007, 7:41pm
same
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2007, 7:45pm
same
Posted by: Mark J Posted on: Mar 18th, 2007, 4:28pm
Nice pictures Nick ...
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Mar 18th, 2007, 10:04pm
I work for Dashwood, Im the Fire Chief there, I have been there for 14 years, since I was 15, half my life......lots of great things happening, 2nd fire station 20 more vollies,3 more trucks, 4000 sq ft addition to station 1, and then a new tanker and resq truck.....lots of work!  Then calls on top of that!  Next time your out in D'wood, stop by Im there 9am to 3pm.  
 
What you think of the vid? one of our FF's made it! Pretty cool eh!
 
I did this one too
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnhs88iTgMo
 
Nick
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Mar 24th, 2007, 11:08pm
Some pics found on the net.  
 
Northbound freight on the Niagara Canyon Bridge.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Mar 24th, 2007, 11:11pm
Found them here.  
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/msdwilkie/sets/72157594359616383/
 
Northbound Dayliner at Nanoose Bay.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Mar 24th, 2007, 11:13pm
Northbound passenger train on Arbutus Canyon Bridge, pre-RDC era.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Mar 24th, 2007, 11:15pm
Excursion near Lake Cowichan on the Lake Cowichan Sub.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Mar 24th, 2007, 11:16pm
F-units on the E&N??? Centennial Train southbound at the top of the Malahat bound for Victoria.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Mar 24th, 2007, 11:19pm
Centennial Train at Shawnigan Lake. What a weird sight, F-units on the island.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Mar 24th, 2007, 11:21pm
PAW near the top of the Malahat.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 1:44am
Wow, some of the Wilkie pictures have turned up!
 
Those centennial train pictures have always been good for an argument..."there has never been an F-unit on the island!!!"..or " No Grove sleeper ever set a wheel on the island!!"   A "modern" conventional passenger train on the island....just looks SO strange!...especially the one in the snow...most E&N pictures just scream "E&N"....that one just screams, "NOT E&N"!
 
If it was different, and it happened in BC, Dave Wilkie would have a picture to prove it!!!
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 2:08am
I am surprised to see that Geeps were used back in the 60s on the Cowichan Sub. Even though its only an excursion train, I would have thought that the Baldwins would have been used.
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 3:04am
I am so glad to see pictures of the Centennial train.  I mention it to people and so many go "I remember that I think" but few have pictures of it.   I have not had much luck in finding pictures so these two are  a blessing.
Posted by: CN7303 Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 3:49am
on Mar 24th, 2007, 11:13pm, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Northbound passenger train on Arbutus Canyon Bridge, pre-RDC era.

 
Is it just me, or is there a person out on the telegraph wires? I'm sure i'm just seeing things but it does look an aweful lot like it.
Posted by: ENR_fan Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 12:56pm
on Mar 24th, 2007, 11:11pm, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Northbound Dayliner at Nanoose Bay.

 
What is the industry spur in the back ground for?
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 2:50pm
Wasn't there a sawmill at Nanoose Bay? I doubt its the old Barge slip as that was further south.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 3:13pm
There was a mill at the siding in the picture.  The barge slip was south of here and the sidings were on the right side going south.  At one time when you went north on the highway and where the bridge crosses the tracks, you could see the operator shack on the left side of the tracks.
Gordon.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 3:42pm
Further to the above: the station name was Jayem.  I also noticed in the 1984 timetable that the wye at Parksville had been removed.
Gordon.
Posted by: Chris_C Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 4:37pm
the wye in parksville is still there, there are pics on here of it
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Mar 25th, 2007, 11:12pm
on Mar 24th, 2007, 11:19pm, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Centennial Train at Shawnigan Lake. What a weird sight, F-units on the island.

An even WIERDER sight is a real-ish station at shawnigan lake rather than the abused shelter thats there now
Posted by: blackdog Posted on: Mar 27th, 2007, 6:27pm
Forgive my lack of BC history - when was the Centennial Train on the Island? 1986?  
I first came to Shawnigan Lake in 1976. My sister lived an easy walk from the station, a few hundred yards along the track. In 1976 the station was a small shelter with a half-hip roof one end and a gable the other. I made a model of it while I was there. I still have the model. There was also, a few yards further north, a shed which looked like it was for a speeder. I have a photo of that, too, but I don't recall the building that looks like a goods lock-up which you can see in the picture of the Centennial Train. Maybe I didn't walk that far up the line.  
I remember we had to 'flag' the Dayliner to stop. We weren't quite sure how you 'flag' a train so we did what you do to stop a London bus - stick your arm out! I have a photo of my wife doing just that, at Shawnigan. Shortly after that, they did away with flagging.
Posted by: blackdog Posted on: Mar 27th, 2007, 6:59pm
I wrote too soon, of course. Just seen the posts about the Centennial train. 1967 explains a lot. Those buildings at Shawnigan had gone by the time I was there.  
For modellers there's one photo (colour) in Rail Canada Volume 3 and more B&W photos and a painting diagram in Rail Canada Volume 1. Apparently the loco horn played 'O Canada' - should be interesting on a DCC sound-equipped model!!
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Mar 27th, 2007, 10:32pm
on Mar 27th, 2007, 6:27pm, blackdog wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Forgive my lack of BC history - when was the Centennial Train on the Island? 1986?  
I first came to Shawnigan Lake in 1976. My sister lived an easy walk from the station, a few hundred yards along the track. In 1976 the station was a small shelter with a half-hip roof one end and a gable the other. I made a model of it while I was there. I still have the model. There was also, a few yards further north, a shed which looked like it was for a speeder. I have a photo of that, too, but I don't recall the building that looks like a goods lock-up which you can see in the picture of the Centennial Train. Maybe I didn't walk that far up the line.  
I remember we had to 'flag' the Dayliner to stop. We weren't quite sure how you 'flag' a train so we did what you do to stop a London bus - stick your arm out! I have a photo of my wife doing just that, at Shawnigan. Shortly after that, they did away with flagging.

 
Well I think thats still the same "station" but now its a little worse for wear after several years of being the local hangout for youths, myself included, it has endured alot of graffiti, has a slight lean to it(no idea why) abuse, and a few attempted arsons....it looks like it seriously needs some tlc.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Mar 28th, 2007, 1:56pm
on Mar 27th, 2007, 6:59pm, blackdog wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I wrote too soon, of course. Just seen the posts about the Centennial train. 1967 explains a lot. Those buildings at Shawnigan had gone by the time I was there.  
For modellers there's one photo (colour) in Rail Canada Volume 3 and more B&W photos and a painting diagram in Rail Canada Volume 1. Apparently the loco horn played 'O Canada' - should be interesting on a DCC sound-equipped model!!

 
 
As far as I know, the O Canada horns from the roof of 1411 are the horns that announce 12 noon in downtown Vancouver every day. They were originally on the roof of the BC Hydro building on Burrard street, but when Hydro moved out, they wound up at Canada place on the waterfront. Amazing how many life long Vancouver residents I've had to TELL that the horns play O Canada,  and even then, some will argue that they don't!!! They CLEARLY do!
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Mar 28th, 2007, 3:07pm
The air horns were also on the cab of 1077 as part of the B.C. museum train that toured the island.  I heard the horns when they were on the top of the Hydro building and yes it sounded like O Canada.  Guess most people do not hear the national anthem very often and do not recognise it.
Gordon.
Posted by: Jayturf Posted on: Mar 30th, 2007, 7:54pm
very cool photos... i too was exploring that area about a month back.  i think you're right about that wall being part of the old union colliery railway.  there are also a ton of old railway ruins around the union bay area.
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Apr 3rd, 2007, 6:16pm
Duncan Turn making it's way north, April 3 2007.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Apr 3rd, 2007, 7:46pm
there used to be a  spur into that scrapyard there behind the  train. I recall seeing it from the dayliner in the 80s.
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:33pm
on Apr 3rd, 2007, 7:46pm, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
there used to be a  spur into that scrapyard there behind the  train. I recall seeing it from the dayliner in the 80s.

Oooo hey potentional customer there! I wonder if the rails are still there at all?
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Apr 4th, 2007, 6:43am
on Apr 3rd, 2007, 6:16pm, CroftonSpur88 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Duncan Turn making it's way north, April 3 2007.

 
Where abouts is this photo taken?  Cassidy?
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Apr 4th, 2007, 9:35am
About a half mile north of Top Shelf
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Apr 4th, 2007, 10:50am
The picture was taken from Boys road. Its just south of the Cowichan river.
The scrap metal dealer is Harpers Recycling.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Apr 14th, 2007, 2:31pm
Gonna try posting a few "golden oldies" here.  This is my first attempt at posting pics, so apologies in advance if it doesn't go quite right.  First we have VIA 6125 and 6134 crossing Catherine Street after unloading, October 5, 1984.  Friday before Thanksgiving weekend means a two car train.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Apr 14th, 2007, 2:39pm
OK, that one seemed to work.  Next up, two shots of train 198 at Nanaimo four years earlier, on October 4, 1980.  The VIA car is 9306, originally Lehigh Valley 41, then CP (& VIA) 9306, then VIA 6143, an RDC2 rebuilt to RDC1 configuration (and must have been rebuilt for Montreal commuter pool--I remember the former baggage compartment was fitted out with seats along the walls and polls for standees to hang on to).  The car in CP colours is 9064.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Apr 14th, 2007, 2:57pm
The other end of 9306.  A phase I car with phase II windows--was it in a wreck or was this just part of the rebuilding?
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Apr 14th, 2007, 3:08pm
One more for now, then I have to get moving on a few chores.  Here's GP9 8825 leaving Victoria yard with the freight on a Sunday afternoon with the Budds in the background, May 26, 1985.
Posted by: ENR_fan Posted on: Apr 14th, 2007, 3:29pm
Awesome pictures Dayliner! I never knew that there was a spur at Catherine Street however it makes sense because that building is still there which the spur goes to and the loading dock suggests rail service in the past.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Apr 14th, 2007, 5:42pm
Hey thanks, ENR fan.  I don't know if that spur was used to serve any customers by that time, but you would often see cars spotted there, as in the photo.  It was common for arriving freight crews to cut off the caboose and leave it in that track--it made sense for the conductor since it was right opposite the yard office in the old station.
 
I took lots and lots of photos on the E&N in those days, but they are mostly slides and I still don't have the capability to scan slides into my computer.  Don't worry, though, as soon as I can I'll be posting them here.
 
Cheers.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Apr 14th, 2007, 6:58pm
there was  two  warehouse customers on that spur. I dont recall what they were.. one of them is  visible where the track straightens out alongside the building..the next was a block west of that,after crossing another road(road name escapes me,sorry) It was a  fenced in customer.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Apr 14th, 2007, 8:43pm
Thanks torch--I often wondered about that spur.  You can see at the top of that picture that there are trucks parked on the tracks inside the fenced enclosure of that second customer.  That, and the way cars were spotted across from the station, made me wonder if that track was being used for anything but storage by the mid-80s.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Apr 15th, 2007, 3:25am
on Apr 14th, 2007, 2:57pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The other end of 9306.  A phase I car with phase II windows--was it in a wreck or was this just part of the rebuilding?

 
 
 
Great pics!
 
The installation of Ph2 size windows on the Ph1 cars was done to most, if not all of the cars on Via..some were done neatly, others you could see where the plate was added.
 
Those cars with seats and poles in the baggage comp. were done by CP, and classed as "RDC-5's"....Via rebuilt them properly into RDC1's
 
Posted by: torch Posted on: Apr 15th, 2007, 3:53am
yup! Dayliner, the last I ever remember of  cars actually being spotted and unloaded  at the warehouses  was the very early 80s. My grandparents used to live on Catherine street in the 70s and 80s and I would always get to sniff around there. Shame that didnt include foto taking!
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Apr 15th, 2007, 8:23pm
Thanks for the encouraging feedback, guys.  I will work on getting more pics scanned and up here over the next few days.
 
Cheers
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Apr 16th, 2007, 12:17am
on Apr 14th, 2007, 3:08pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
One more for now, then I have to get moving on a few chores.  Here's GP9 8825 leaving Victoria yard with the freight on a Sunday afternoon with the Budds in the background, May 26, 1985.

 
Look Ma, no weeds.  
 
Great pic - I had several from around the same time but can't seem to find them.  Guess I'll have to look harder.
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Apr 16th, 2007, 11:22am
Thanks for posting those photos, Dayliner. Really great to see! I am also looking forward to the others that you have.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Apr 16th, 2007, 9:02pm
6125 is now used on the Orford(sp?) Express in Quebec.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Apr 16th, 2007, 9:49pm
on Apr 15th, 2007, 8:23pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks for the encouraging feedback, guys.  I will work on getting more pics scanned and up here over the next few days.
 
Cheers

 
Great pictures! Can't wait for the others!
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Apr 20th, 2007, 9:19pm
A couple more.  Here is the old Catherine Street station with RDC 6125 in the background.  March 3, 1984.  Does anyone here remember catching the Dayliner at the original Store Street station?
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Apr 20th, 2007, 9:34pm
Here's SW8 6701 at the roundhouse, May 26, 1985.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Apr 21st, 2007, 12:19pm
on Apr 14th, 2007, 6:58pm, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
there was  two  warehouse customers on that spur. I dont recall what they were.. one of them is  visible where the track straightens out alongside the building..the next was a block west of that,after crossing another road(road name escapes me,sorry) It was a  fenced in customer.

The street is Mary St. if my memory is correct.  The building at the end of the siding is/was I think: Victoria Van & Storage and another name that comes to mind is Skillings.  
Torch: I see your grandparents lived on Catherine St.  I lived on the same street from 1942 till I think 1955 when we moved to Bay St. just before Government St.  When I was able to walk, I used to go down to the tracks and hitch a ride on the passenger train to the station and back.  I was about 5 or 6.  In those days you did not worry too much about where your kids went.  I just had to make sure I was home for supper on time or else
Funny thing is that many years later I worked the Victoria Yard twice.  I braked out of Nanaimo for awhile and went to Victoria as they were short handed.  They used to be 2 seperate divisions back then.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Apr 21st, 2007, 12:24pm
Dayliner:
Great shots!  Brings back allot of memories.  Does taking the passenger train from the old station back in the days of steam count??  I took one of the last mixed trains from Pt. Alberni in the 50's and had to wait in Nanaimo for the dayliner to Victoria.  Looking forward to seeing more of your collection.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Apr 21st, 2007, 3:24pm
on Apr 21st, 2007, 12:19pm, baldwincp wrote:       (Click here for original message)

The street is Mary St. if my memory is correct.  The building at the end of the siding is/was I think: Victoria Van & Storage and another name that comes to mind is Skillings.  
Torch: I see your grandparents lived on Catherine St.  I lived on the same street from 1942 till I think 1955 when we moved to Bay St. just before Government St.  When I was able to walk, I used to go down to the tracks and hitch a ride on the passenger train to the station and back.  I was about 5 or 6.  In those days you did not worry too much about where your kids went.  I just had to make sure I was home for supper on time or else
Funny thing is that many years later I worked the Victoria Yard twice.  I braked out of Nanaimo for awhile and went to Victoria as they were short handed.  They used to be 2 seperate divisions back then.

 
Victoria Van & Storage sounds correct - I definitely remember seeing that on old switch lists, just too bad that's something I didn't collect back then.
 
Also,  Victoria and Nanaimo crews were separate up until the mid 1980's
Posted by: torch Posted on: Apr 21st, 2007, 9:37pm
hey baldwincp.. the  skillings building  ,i recall, was to the left of  where the  two boxcars are in dayliner's photo. I can see a  name on the  building that was an e&n customer..  something  'mc dowell?  anyways, yup.. my  grandparents were in the house that is now the pub on catherine. I used to take the  dayliner from langford where I lived  ,down to see my  grandparents for dinner! It  was perfect.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: Apr 22nd, 2007, 2:35pm
Torch:
It is a small world.  Friends of our family lived in that same house back in the 40's.
Posted by: rocko59 Posted on: Apr 22nd, 2007, 5:59pm
Here's a couple shots of log cars in Duncan in 1965, looks like hemlock on them. Taken by PG Peerless who lived in Saltair & Chemainus. Russell
Posted by: rocko59 Posted on: Apr 22nd, 2007, 6:01pm
Here's #2 That's me hanging off the side & my cousin Jim Graham who logs in the Revelstoke area.   Russell
Posted by: tr1467 Posted on: May 3rd, 2007, 4:56am
An unusual meet in Ladysmith --I think I took this around 1988
Posted by: tr1467 Posted on: May 3rd, 2007, 4:59am
unusual meet
Posted by: North49 Posted on: May 3rd, 2007, 5:49pm
That is quite the unusual meet, what the heck is going on there?   thanks for sharing the intresting photos  
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: May 3rd, 2007, 8:53pm
on May 3rd, 2007, 4:56am, tr1467 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
An unusual meet in Ladysmith --I think I took this around 1988

That would be whe they moved CLR 11 & 12 from static display near the highway to the shops to begin restoration
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: May 4th, 2007, 2:27am
Someone mentioned a long time ago about looking forward to when more people got on the boards and started posting historic pictures from their collections.  
 
I think that what we are seeing is this wish starting to be fulfilled.
 
THANKYOU to everyone that keeps posting all the amazing and cool pictures, from the past and present.   I think I can say that we all are TOTALLY enjoying it!!!!
 
 
Posted by: North49 Posted on: May 4th, 2007, 2:47am
on May 4th, 2007, 2:27am, CPRail4744 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Someone mentioned a long time ago about looking forward to when more people got on the boards and started posting historic pictures from their collections.  
 
I think that what we are seeing is this wish starting to be fulfilled.
 
THANKYOU to everyone that keeps posting all the amazing and cool pictures, from the past and present.   I think I can say that we all are TOTALLY enjoying it!!!!
 
 

 
I totally agree, I really enjoying see historic photographs, even just old photosgraphs from peoples private collections, thanks for sharing and keep them comming!
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: May 5th, 2007, 2:53pm
Quote:
Does taking the passenger train from the old station back in the days of steam count??  

 
OK, baldwincp, I'm officially impressed!!!  My first trip on the E&N was in 1968, and I remember getting on at the old station.  I also remember, a few years later, going down to the Store St. station to meet someone off the train.  He was visiting from Japan, and had left a book, in Japanese, on his seat "as a gift to the company."  (I guess that's a custom over there).  I still remember Don MacLachlan getting out of the cab with the book and tapping on our car window, to make sure that our friend left nothing on the train!  E&N crews have always gone the extra mile with customer service--one of the things that always made "our" railway a class act all the way.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: May 14th, 2007, 8:00pm
Awesome photo of 6148 at the turntable, CLC Fan!  Great lighting and unusual angle make this one of the best E&N shots I've seen, IMO.  Thanks for sharing!
Posted by: ENR Posted on: May 15th, 2007, 5:23am
Just a pic I took last week  at the roundhous...
Posted by: blackdog1 Posted on: May 15th, 2007, 6:20am
Hi CLC Fan - that shot of 6148 is a really GREAT picture. I'm working on a magazine feature on Budd cars for Model Rail International. When I get going with it (AFTER my forthcoming trip to the island) I'll be asking you for permission/a high-res copy for publication.
Posted by: blackdog Posted on: May 17th, 2007, 6:08pm
Southbound freight - Victoria turn - with two GP-9s near Cliffside in 1981.
Posted by: blackdog Posted on: May 17th, 2007, 6:27pm
My late wife (then aged 24) flagging the Dayliner at Shawnigan in 1976. We weren't sure how you 'flagged' a train so Diane did it the same way she'd stop a London bus!
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: May 17th, 2007, 11:21pm
Excellent pix you've posted today, Blackdog. If you have more please post them.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: May 18th, 2007, 12:38am
on May 17th, 2007, 9:05pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
. heh, and I remember seeing the red & white ends on the Dayliner in the early 70's...  

 
LOL  The Hockey mask theme......   Jason!
Posted by: blackdog1 Posted on: May 18th, 2007, 4:36am
The shot at Cliffside, of the freight, is NORTH bound, I've just discovered, and the Lincoln grain car in the Rolling stock thread is 1976 not 1981.
Posted by: blackdog1 Posted on: May 18th, 2007, 6:59am
Victoria yard with MOW stock in 1976.
Posted by: blackdog1 Posted on: May 18th, 2007, 9:23am
Here's the end of that 1976 run from Shawnigan into Victoria, just for those who like the hockey mask. I thought it was great, too, and I really enjoyed that virtual job that one of you guys did with the blue hockey mask on the VIA RDC. I was really disappointed when I realised it wasn't genuine!
Posted by: blackdog1 Posted on: May 18th, 2007, 9:29am
The VIA plain yellow doesn't look nearly as good. Reminds me of the worst time on British Rail, with characterless yellow ends on everything.
This is near Cliffside in 1981.
Posted by: blackdog1 Posted on: May 18th, 2007, 9:39am
...and 1981 again. The sandtower was still there.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: May 18th, 2007, 9:51am
on May 18th, 2007, 9:39am, blackdog1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
...and 1981 again. The sandtower was still there.

The sand tower lasted until 85, but could be off by a year
Posted by: blackdog1 Posted on: May 21st, 2007, 8:39am
A couple more golden oldies - the last before I set off to Heathrow. Here's 1077 on the E&N at Shawnigan with the Museum Train. I wasn't there - my sister took this.
Posted by: blackdog1 Posted on: May 21st, 2007, 9:11am
This was in 1990. I was trying to be a bit 'arty' with pictures of the Dayliner. This was at Shawnigan Creek.
Posted by: blackdog1 Posted on: May 21st, 2007, 9:13am
And this one, also in 1990, was taken as the heading for an article I wrote about the effort that was being put into closing the E&N rather than promoting it. The road sign seemed appropriate!
Posted by: Cody Posted on: May 22nd, 2007, 12:28am
Blackdog.  That reflection shot of the bud is very cool.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 26th, 2007, 4:44pm
Great pictures being posted
Here is one of the GP10's in a cement dust storm
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 26th, 2007, 4:51pm
Here is one of the centre beam flat car.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 2:51pm
I wonder if that centerbeam is leaving - unloaded?
 
Is there a chance someone just really screwed up a switching move in Vancouver and the car came over by mistake?   Or does that kind of thing never happen?
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 3:50pm
I guess the question is: did it come over empty?  At one time they brought ties over on the centre beam.  I will not be at work on Monday so I will not be able to see if it leaves the island.
Here are some shots of the yard.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 3:52pm
Cement transfer.
Posted by: Chris_C Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 3:55pm
it has been sitting around for a few weeks now in the yard.. it was coupled to a MOW consist in the back of the yard ,  then it was thrown into a cut of cars last week.. but hasnt moved.
 
As far as anyone can tell, it came over empty.  
 
The thing about centerbeams is that they have to be loaded relatively equal from side to side... so a location to load / unload  its fairly specific.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 3:55pm
Here are some of Via 6133 before it went to Victoria.  The "old girl" has seen better days.  Compression spoils the shot.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 4:05pm
Chris: at the time the centre beam was unloaded at the spur by the mill.  They used what I call a make shift fork lift.  It took forever to unload and bring the ties down by the shop track.  They just take one bundle from one side and go back and do the opposite side.  This was back in the ENR days.  The last loads of cedar ties came in on flat decks.
More shots of Via
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 4:10pm
Bored yet?
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 4:15pm
2 more to go.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 4:24pm
Last one
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 8:33pm
I took my son to see Wellcox yard this Sunday afternoon. There are well over 50 cars of all sorts in the yard...
Posted by: extraindriver Posted on: May 27th, 2007, 9:41pm
Judging by the lack of hi-vis, I'd guess.... trespassing in a very dangerous place
Posted by: timberland#7 Posted on: May 28th, 2007, 2:34am
Whent by the yard on saturday and did not see the center beam anywhere . Lucky for me I didnt tresspas so I could have missed it. Does any one know if the center beam brought over ties or is there another reason it is here
Posted by: Mark J Posted on: May 28th, 2007, 2:47am
on May 27th, 2007, 10:53pm, CroftonSpur88 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
So I guess you weren't trepassing when you took those photos of the cement transload in 2005 You'd be hard pressed my friend to find anyone on this forum who hasn't tresspassed at least once.
 
The yard is down on Sunday. The geeps were dead and all the mow and highrails were parked.  
 
If you still feel the need to be a hero, PM me and I'll provide all the info you need to take to the police, along with your high horse....
 

 
 
LOL hear hear    safety first
Posted by: torch Posted on: May 28th, 2007, 3:26am
I had a  great burger at a place in tofino once.. I think it was called the way west  inn.  best burger in the  world.
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: May 28th, 2007, 10:26am
on May 28th, 2007, 3:26am, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I had a  great burger at a place in tofino once.. I think it was called the way west  inn.  best burger in the  world.

Funny, the best burger I ever had was in Cache Creek. Can't remember the name of the place tho...
Posted by: extraindriver Posted on: May 28th, 2007, 1:55pm
I was just pointing out a safety issue, after 20 years with CPR, I've seen more than my share death and destruction on the railway,needless injuries and death of trespassers and I would not allow my children on the property. Have you ever heard "any time is train time?" What about  unintended movement of equipment( 3 cases in the last year in Wellcox yard), including vandals and trespassers releasing handbrakes...not a yard crew on duty, either. But if you don't respect trespassing rules, your kids won't either. Just pray that when they get older, they don't think its ok to be so close to equipment and end up in more pieces than they left home in.
And o ya, since you took so much time investigating my submitted photos...yes, I had permission to be on sight, and was required to wear Hi-vis/hard hat  and had a company escort while taking photos.
 So rather than blowing a fuse because you got caught doing something stupid, take it as advice from someone who cares, and does not want to see another body in more pieces that it should.Those sights live on forever in memory. Trespassing is not safe,period!
High horse, indeed!
on May 27th, 2007, 10:53pm, CroftonSpur88 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
So I guess you weren't trepassing when you took those photos of the cement transload in 2005 You'd be hard pressed my friend to find anyone on this forum who hasn't tresspassed at least once.
 
The yard is down on Sunday. The geeps were dead and all the mow and highrails were parked.  
 
If you still feel the need to be a hero, PM me and I'll provide all the info you need to take to the police, along with your high horse....
 

Posted by: boxcar Posted on: May 28th, 2007, 2:47pm
i have to agree, i have hit a tresspasser just south of red deer for not obeying saftey rules, i have also seen numerous cars start by themselves for no apparent reason, handbrakes are good if they are applied, and with the amount of homeless around the yard, i would not be taking chances with someone so precious. I understand the best intentions, and that it is great your kid shares your admiration for trains, but just think, how would you tell your wife/mother if anything had happened?
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: May 28th, 2007, 6:15pm
It's just a simple case of "It could never happen to me!"
 
Been there seen that.
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: May 28th, 2007, 7:38pm
Fair enough, I obviously showed an error in judgement, I wont let it happen again.
 
Extratraindriver,If I offended you in any way, please except a humble apology from a stubborn fool.
Posted by: baldwincp Posted on: May 29th, 2007, 10:28am
CLC:  Great shot in the back shop.  Any chance the next time you are there to get some interior shots of the round house?  The last time I was there was about 20 years ago.  A friend of mine took a few pictures of the inside of the round house at that time.  If I can get his permission, I will post them.  I think this is another area that needs to be recorded.  There are a few "old structures" around that are interesting and soon will be gone.  My friend started to take pictures of what are left of the train stations on the island.  Unfortunately he did not get the job finished.  Another interesting building down at the Victoria Yard is the Ormand cooky factory.  Not sure if the sign is on the wall still.  Another interesting structure is the car shop.  That is one building I have never seen the inside of.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: May 29th, 2007, 1:11pm
on May 29th, 2007, 4:03am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Actually, you are all wrong: the best burgers available are at a place called "The Scarlet Ibis" and it's located in a remote logging town called Holberg.. halfway between Port Hardy and Cape Scott Park.  Of course, when you're 5 days in the bush and eating Crap Dinner and sand, -ANYTHING- tastes awesome!  

 
I will attest to this. Their fries are also really good, and for where they are located, the prices are reasonable. My sister was born in Holberg, so I've been there a couple times. Definitely worth the trek, as it's on the way to Winter Harbour, and Cape Scott park. If you're railfanning the Englewood railway, it's only about 2 hours farther up the road.
Posted by: Blackdog2 Posted on: Jun 2nd, 2007, 9:49pm
110/119 switching Top Shelf on 24 May 2007. Anyone get a photo of the Union Pacific hopper? I missed it - didn't see it till I passed by on the Highway next day.
Posted by: Blackdog2 Posted on: Jun 2nd, 2007, 9:56pm
Another on the same day. A week later they picked up the two dust control tanks along with the empties. Can someone explain how this dust control material is used? On the track or the highways? Is it off-loaded into something else and sprayed? Excuse my ignorance - it's not something we need in rainy England!
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jun 2nd, 2007, 10:35pm
on Jun 2nd, 2007, 9:56pm, Blackdog2 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Another on the same day. A week later they picked up the two dust control tanks along with the empties. Can someone explain how this dust control material is used? On the track or the highways? Is it off-loaded into something else and sprayed? Excuse my ignorance - it's not something we need in rainy England!

It is for road use and you are correct, it is offloaded into trucks and sprayed on the roads
Posted by: torch Posted on: Jun 2nd, 2007, 11:48pm
Dear Lord! where is  the  the  track in that last  photo? Looks like they are just drifting on top of a meadow! lol
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 3rd, 2007, 2:21am
on Jun 2nd, 2007, 9:56pm, Blackdog2 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Another on the same day. A week later they picked up the two dust control tanks along with the empties. Can someone explain how this dust control material is used? On the track or the highways? Is it off-loaded into something else and sprayed? Excuse my ignorance - it's not something we need in rainy England!

 
 
The dust control, which I think is Magnesium Chloride, is used on gravel roads and dirt logging roads.  It is a kind of diluted salt and works by pulling moisture out of the air to "wet" the dust the same way salt pulls moisture out of things that are "salt cured" like meat.  It is actually the water in the air that ends up keeping the dust down, not the chemical itself.
 
The old method of spraying crude oil all over the gravel roads is no longer acceptable.  I guess no-one likes oily well-water these days.  
Posted by: Blackdog2 Posted on: Jun 3rd, 2007, 1:46pm
Thanks, guys. I've still got a lot to learn from this forum and it's great that there's always someone who knows the answers.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Jun 7th, 2007, 10:17pm
6148 arriving Duncan on Wednesday, June 6th, 2007. Photo by my Mother. (full sized here, smaller one below.)
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Jun 8th, 2007, 2:24am
Same as above, now with resized goodness .
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jun 13th, 2007, 9:39pm
on Jun 2nd, 2007, 11:48pm, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Looks like they are just drifting on top of a meadow! lol

 
You should see some of the tracks at Thornton yard, they have about the same amount of weeds.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Jun 14th, 2007, 12:02am
on Jun 13th, 2007, 9:39pm, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
You should see some of the tracks at Thornton yard, they have about the same amount of weeds.

 
Weeds or Wheats?    
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jun 14th, 2007, 12:04am
on Jun 14th, 2007, 12:02am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Weeds or Wheats?    

 
LOL, A little of both.
Posted by: bcrailfan Posted on: Jun 14th, 2007, 12:23am
Does anyone know if the Alberni Sub was treated during the recent weeding work?  I know there's no traffic (freight) on the line but it is only going to get harder to re-use that line if the SRVI doesn't stay on top of the maintenance and weed problems along the right of way now.
 
Ben
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jun 14th, 2007, 12:35am
Looking at your photo CLC, I wonder if this year's herbicide spaying isn't going to make for a few more brake-fires along the right-of-way this summer.  Then again even the live plants dry out pretty well.
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Jun 14th, 2007, 9:25pm
well im glad to see they herbicide is actually working....I wonder how well its working on the broom..
Posted by: sry110 Posted on: Jun 14th, 2007, 9:37pm
What kind of machine do they use to spray the herbicide.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jun 18th, 2007, 2:46pm
on Jun 12th, 2007, 3:04am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I just emptied the memory card in my camera... here's 19 pics of some miscellaneous freight car shots I took at Welcox during a break from work on June 9th.  The Dayliner was taken today at the Transfer Beach Rd crossing after it dropped off a bunch of kids a few hundred metres away at Transfer Beach Park.
 
http://members.shaw.ca/cprclc6/ENR.html

 
 
Nice pictures of Wellcox. With all those weeds it's starting to look like Thornton yard.
Posted by: blackdog Posted on: Jun 20th, 2007, 3:45pm
Back in the UK now. Noticed a mowing machine parked at Cobble Hill on ...... guess it must have been 11 June. Nice piece of kit, capable of cutting a wide swathe both sides of the ROW. Couldn't see anywhere it had been used though, but have you noticed that the 'meadows' in my shots of Top Shelf have since been mown? Pity, there were nice California Poppies on the trackside there!  
Looks to me like the broom dies from the top OK with the herbicide - Cobble Hill looks very dead in the four-foot now.
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jun 28th, 2007, 3:30am
Here are a few pictures of the Budd car just south of Humpback Road approaching Langford lake last Sunday.
 
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jun 28th, 2007, 3:31am
Sun was in a bad spot but ah well.
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jun 28th, 2007, 3:32am
The rear side.
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Jun 28th, 2007, 5:55am
Great photos jason, you can really see the elevation changes in that area!
Posted by: blackdog Posted on: Jul 4th, 2007, 4:01pm
I've posted a lot of the photos I took on the island last month on my magazine's website www.model-rail.com
This is NOT an advert it won't cost a penny to look - just saves me posting them again.  
If you're into modelling you might find something useful in the Top Shelf pictures. There's also a set of E&N stations and some stuff at the Forest Museum.
CHRIS
Posted by: imprezzed Posted on: Jul 5th, 2007, 1:44am
[quote author=CLC Fan link=board=Vancouver;num=1069788329;start=660#678 date=07/04/07 at 23:06:17]Blackdog-> I couldn't locate your pictures on that magazine website.  Can you give us a hint..??
 
[\quote]
 
 
 
Try here:
 
http://www.railwaymags.com/nav?page=railwaymags.contentspage&view_resource=6824159
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jul 6th, 2007, 12:26am
on Jul 4th, 2007, 11:06pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Blackdog-> I couldn't locate your pictures on that magazine website.  Can you give us a hint..??
 
JasonK-> Nice pictures, and I love your camera, I could tell by looking at it that you were using one like mine.  I am hoping to upgrade to that model eventually.  I bought the one below it (the 5 MP version) last summer just as the black one was being promoted... but the black is cooler looking. heheh.

 
Yes, the Canon S3. Great camera, love it and it shoots excellent video as well but the 12x zoom is the main selling point for me which is often critical for rail fanning. I'd go DSLR but the cameras are just too bulky for my liking.
 
The S3 is going for a pretty good price these days as the S5 was just released.
 
Cheers.
 
J\
 
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jul 7th, 2007, 6:38pm
on Jul 6th, 2007, 2:22am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Yes, the optical zoom (x10) is a big reason why I bought the S3, and for the very same reasons you mention.  The DSLR's are coming down in price but too serious for my useage.

 
Actually it's 12x, not 10x
 
I used to shoot with SLR's back in the "film days" but don't need that now.
 
J\
Posted by: blackdog Posted on: Jul 8th, 2007, 1:49pm
The mowing machine parked at Cobble Hill on 11 June. I guess this machine must have the double distinction of being the smallest 'locomotive' on the E&N and the largest lawnmower on Vancouver Island?
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Jul 8th, 2007, 7:14pm
on Jul 8th, 2007, 1:49pm, blackdog wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The mowing machine parked at Cobble Hill on 11 June. I guess this machine must have the double distinction of being the smallest 'locomotive' on the E&N and the largest lawnmower on Vancouver Island?

 
Haha Im not sure about the largest lawn mowr on the Island....there are some mowers that are about as wide as the length of a large pickup used to mow the lawns of sports fields....
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Jul 28th, 2007, 7:10pm
I was over in Victoria for work last week and a I snagged a few photos and a couple videos of the Dayliner. On the 23rd, I found 6133 and 6148 being cleaned at the roundhouse after their daily run.
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Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Jul 28th, 2007, 7:16pm
Saw the pair on the morning of July 26th at the downtown station getting ready for the day.
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Jul 28th, 2007, 7:18pm
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Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Jul 28th, 2007, 7:22pm
Here's a video I shot of 6133 and 6148 on the evening of July 27th at the Admiral's Road crossing in Esquimalt. I was on my bike, and after that I raced down to see if I could catch them again closer to downtown. They'd already made it to the station, but I shot a video of them crossing the Johnson Street bridge quite slowly on the way back to the roundhouse. Not the greatest video, with people in the foreground talking. But if there's any interest, I'll post it also. Let me know.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to67Heo7Xw0
Posted by: prairie_dog_central Posted on: Jul 29th, 2007, 2:50am
Caught the Dayliner in Nanaimo on July 15. Anyone know the history of that big dent on 6133? (6133's lower right corner)
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 29th, 2007, 11:57am
on Jul 29th, 2007, 2:50am, prairie_dog_central wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Caught the Dayliner in Nanaimo on July 15. Anyone know the history of that big dent on 6133? (6133's lower right corner)

I believe it was from an altercation with a gravel truck.  6133 was a parts donor for a while and one end was traded with 6148 (that actually hit the gravel truck)
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Jul 30th, 2007, 6:36pm
I went down to check out Welcox yard today to see what's new.  Caught the crew doing some switching.  Here I caught them using the old caboose/scale house lead which I haven't seem them do before.  I grabbed a couple of shots and went to switch to video but my battery died.  D'oh!  Anyways, you should have heard those wheels screaming... and you could smell the metal.  The brakeman had to hug the side of the hopper to clear the trees on the left.
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Jul 30th, 2007, 7:10pm
Thanks CLC Fan. That's interesting that you were there also on Monday evening. I went up on the hill behind the roundhouse as well, interesting vantage point, but the light was really bright behind the Dayliners, so it wasn't condusive to the greatest photos. From the right side though, I really like the evening light.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jul 30th, 2007, 10:57pm
on Jul 29th, 2007, 11:57am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I believe it was from an altercation with a gravel truck.  6133 was a parts donor for a while and one end was traded with 6148 (that actually hit the gravel truck)

 
I believe the dent is from the tree it hit back in 2000. When they fixed the damaged end on 6148, they actually rebuilt it with new steel.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 30th, 2007, 11:02pm
The Victoria Sub does seem to be a target rich environment.  (Dayliner vs. trees, gravel trucks, other vehicular traffic that is)
Posted by: craigolio Posted on: Aug 14th, 2007, 8:22pm
Does anyone have a photo of the Tailer Train depressed center flat that showed up with transformers from time to time?
 
Thanks, Craig
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Aug 19th, 2007, 12:11am
6135 sitting in one of the service tracks at Welcox today.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Aug 19th, 2007, 2:17am
Looks like they covered up one of the windows. Must be for the Wheelchair accessible washroom.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Aug 19th, 2007, 12:05pm
on Aug 19th, 2007, 2:17am, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Looks like they covered up one of the windows. Must be for the Wheelchair accessible washroom.

 
 
Wheelchair accessible washroom? I thought wheelchair users weren't even able to board the train in their chairs. Or have they fixed that as well?
Posted by: Pennsy Posted on: Aug 19th, 2007, 2:04pm
Hi All,
 
Many states now have laws which require subways, trolleys, LRV's, buses, to be handicapped friendly and have all their facilities accessible to handicapped persons. I have seen buses with elevators for allowing a wheelchair access from streetlevel to the floor of the bus. Subways and LRV's have ramps for such access as well. Long overdue.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Aug 19th, 2007, 7:01pm
on Aug 19th, 2007, 12:05pm, CN7059 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Wheelchair accessible washroom? I thought wheelchair users weren't even able to board the train in their chairs. Or have they fixed that as well?

 
 
Once they are on the train they can use the wheelchairs. Boarding the train, the disabled person would most likely have to be carried up the stairs, I believe the doors are too narrow for a wheelchair.  
 
    BTW, 6133 and 6134 were given wheelchair accessible washrooms when they were overhauled in the early 1990's.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Aug 19th, 2007, 9:01pm
I guess the only way to have a truly accessible RDC is to take an rdc-2 or 3 and put an onboard lift at the Cargo door.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Aug 20th, 2007, 2:27am
on Aug 19th, 2007, 9:01pm, CN7059 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I guess the only way to have a truly accessible RDC is to take an rdc-2 or 3 and put an onboard lift at the Cargo door.

 
 
Didn't IRSI do that with their demo car, the 6202?
Posted by: North49 Posted on: Aug 21st, 2007, 2:34am
Yard is looking a little full....
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Aug 21st, 2007, 12:14pm
Sure looks good!
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Aug 21st, 2007, 12:49pm
Lots of cars in the yard. Now it only needs some more engines.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Sep 14th, 2007, 12:11am
Time for some "classic" E&N.  RDC2 9103 northbound at Cowichan Station on August 26, 1977.  My mother took the picture as the train slowed to let me on for a trip to Nanaimo.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Sep 14th, 2007, 1:27pm
Quote:
That's a nice picture.  Makes my current one pale by comparison.

 
I don't know about that, CLC Fan.  I'm sure liking the look of that full yard these days.
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Sep 14th, 2007, 5:01pm
Nice eh! Looks great!
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Sep 14th, 2007, 7:36pm
Are those tankers on the far right of that second to last photo the ones for Columbia fuels?
Posted by: torch Posted on: Sep 15th, 2007, 6:56am
bingo. But they are working on it. Needs  some boxcars.
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: Sep 15th, 2007, 2:16pm
Im a" half full" kinda guy!
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Sep 15th, 2007, 3:34pm
on Sep 15th, 2007, 2:45am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The yard is probably filling up because they won't take the empties back.   just kidding...
 
Crofton, yes those three cars are where Columbia Fuels receives its loads.
 
But behind all those freight cars, the yard is half empty...

 
 
Looks like Glen yard in Vancouver, empty.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Sep 16th, 2007, 10:28pm
on Sep 14th, 2007, 12:11am, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Time for some "classic" E&N.  RDC2 9103 northbound at Cowichan Station on August 26, 1977.  My mother took the picture as the train slowed to let me on for a trip to Nanaimo.

 
LOVE the hockey mask!
 
 
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Sep 26th, 2007, 12:20am
Great pix as usual, CLC Fan. Nice to see Wellcox so busy - its been a while since it looked like that. Is this because of a rail ferry problem?
Posted by: torch Posted on: Sep 26th, 2007, 1:48am
dont know about a  ferry problem   but this has  more to do with the  30 percent traffic increase. (that number is from SRVI 's mouth, not mine)
Posted by: Chris_C Posted on: Sep 26th, 2007, 2:47am
30% is probably a little low even.....
 
Pole Yard
Cement offloading - Up about 1000%
Columbia Fuels
ocasional Slurry cars
Posted by: torch Posted on: Sep 26th, 2007, 4:58am
yes, for  sure!   that cement operation looks to be  BOOMING now! everybody cross ya fingers  for boxcars.
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Sep 26th, 2007, 9:12pm
I'm crossin my fingers that SRY keeps finding new customers and maybe finds something south of the 'hat. And wouldn't it be kewl if they found a reason to run over the hump? That'd be something. Hell, send us another Geep!
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Sep 27th, 2007, 12:52am
on Sep 26th, 2007, 4:58am, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
yes, for  sure!   that cement operation looks to be  BOOMING now! everybody cross ya fingers  for boxcars.

 
 
Boxcars?? What's so special about boxcars?
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Sep 27th, 2007, 12:38pm
Mmmm, boxcars. Is there anything they can't do?
 
I concur with Torch, boxcars are just interesting, and you don't see them very often anymore so it would be nice to see some.
 
J\
Posted by: blackdog Posted on: Sep 27th, 2007, 4:33pm
Where's that cement being used? Victoria? or all over the Island? If it's being used in Victoria it might make sense to move it south by rail to avoid winter weather conditions on the Malahat, not to mention the occasional road blockage by an overturned propane tank truck....
It would certainly be good to see more traffic moving beyond Welcox on the E&N, but one step at a time, I guess. What's happening is certainly good news. How long before Welcox needs a switcher just for the barge so that 110/119 are kept available for the main line?
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Sep 27th, 2007, 5:23pm
I totally agree with you guys about the boxcars. They used to be the bread and butter of the railways, now they're not as common. Nothing makes a railway feel like a railway more than boxcars.
 
It would be great to see them on the Island.
Posted by: CN7303 Posted on: Sep 27th, 2007, 6:56pm
I think a daily sand/gravel train would make me happier than a string of boxcars. Hopefully somebody on the island has the know how to bring it all together.
Posted by: CN7303 Posted on: Sep 30th, 2007, 9:51pm
Here are some shots of the cab from SRY110 at E&N Days. first is the controll stand
 
Posted by: CN7303 Posted on: Sep 30th, 2007, 9:53pm
A view for everyone to enjoy.
Posted by: CN7303 Posted on: Sep 30th, 2007, 9:54pm
Conductor's side.
Posted by: CN7303 Posted on: Sep 30th, 2007, 9:58pm
110 showing off it's heritage. Thats all for now, I might put up more of the pictures i took later.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Oct 4th, 2007, 9:00pm
I caught the Duncan turn northbound today beneath the powerlines north of Duncan.   I almost missed the train due to being stopped by a flagperson waving a tree-chipper across the road ahead of me but was happy when I was let through just in time to snap this pic.
 
Posted by: CroftonSpur88 Posted on: Oct 4th, 2007, 10:54pm
Nice catch Cody! Where abouts north of Duncan was it?
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Oct 5th, 2007, 12:03am
Thanks!
 
There is a nice lookout along Somenos Road.   Go north from Duncan and take the left off the highway onto Somenos Rd (at the bottom of the curved hill on the highway) and back-track a few kilometers until you pass over the tracks again.
 
 
The location of pic is directly under the hydro-line right of way
Posted by: blackdog Posted on: Oct 5th, 2007, 11:31am
That's a really pretty picture - one to print off for the wall of the railway room, I think. If you don't mind.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Oct 5th, 2007, 9:03pm
on Oct 5th, 2007, 11:31am, blackdog wrote:       (Click here for original message)
That's a really pretty picture - one to print off for the wall of the railway room, I think. If you don't mind.

With the curve & trees, how long is the train?  50? 100 cars?  
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 6th, 2007, 1:53am
on Oct 5th, 2007, 9:03pm, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

With the curve & trees, how long is the train?  50? 100 cars?  

 
You mean you didn't hear Top Shelf expanded business? SRVI's running 100 car unit grain trains with a pair of GP9's.  
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Oct 6th, 2007, 3:11am
I forgot to mention those units were in pusher service on the end of a 95 car movement of Llama feed pellets.    
 
 
 
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 13th, 2007, 12:45am
I found these on an old computer disk, anyone know the photographers?
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 13th, 2007, 12:46am
same as above. Location looks like Parksville.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Oct 25th, 2007, 5:44pm
Two pictures of the old interlocking tower that was relocated to the former museum site at Ladysmith.  The building had just been refurbished and was torched shortly after this picture was taken.  
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Oct 25th, 2007, 5:45pm
One more...
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Oct 26th, 2007, 3:32pm
on Oct 25th, 2007, 5:44pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Two pictures of the old interlocking tower that was relocated to the former museum site at Ladysmith.  The building had just been refurbished and was torched shortly after this picture was taken.  

Does anyone know how the diamond was operated? What I mean is, was it a CLoR or a CPR employee that threw the signals, or both?  Who ultimately owned the building while it was in service?
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Oct 26th, 2007, 11:37pm
Wild guess here, but I would assume it was probably a similar arrangement to Clayburn- Normal lined for CP and CL&R crew would throw the signals before proceeding.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 27th, 2007, 1:48am
6148 at Thornton yard, still. It's been going back and forth between Thornton and New Westminster for weeks.
Posted by: timberland#7 Posted on: Oct 27th, 2007, 3:38am
The Diamond tower restoration was being done by the Ladysmith rotary club and as you can see by the pictures there were doing a first class job of it. They had all the windows in before it was vandalized. When the town anounced they were evicting the society from the site a fellow who was not a member of the society was upset at the town for evicting the society whent and smashed all the windows in the shop and the tower. He was caught and that was his explanation, how that helped the society is beyond me.After that the kids got into and like the rail cars down there they set fire to it.A real shame. In Turners logging by rail page 184 it shows John Auer operating the levers and Iam pretty shure he worked for crown z. The levers are in town on display on first avenue and most of the semaphores are still in existance. The oil lamps I have never seen them and Iam looking for some if anybody knows were they can get some, they were maintained and lit up untill 1984 when rail logging was ended.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Oct 27th, 2007, 7:37am
on Oct 27th, 2007, 1:48am, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)
6148 at Thornton yard, still. It's been going back and forth between Thornton and New Westminster for weeks.

Test runs?
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 27th, 2007, 7:34pm
on Oct 27th, 2007, 7:37am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Test runs?

 
Hauled back and forth by the tramp job. Supposed to go to Vancouver apparently, to Via.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 29th, 2007, 9:45pm
Decided to head over to Nanaimo today to get some pictures of the ol' E&N. Dunno why, I work around these things 5 days a week and on my days off I go take pictures of another railroad, I must be insane LOL.  
 
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 29th, 2007, 9:47pm
Dayliner.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Oct 29th, 2007, 9:49pm
At Wellcox in the morning sun.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Oct 29th, 2007, 10:31pm
cool pics, T.  and  you are not insane for that. you are more insane for being a railfan who decided to work for a major railroad!  lol  I remember  when you used to post on this board about wanting to work for the e&n so its only natural that you go  to nanaimo for fotos. at least CN hasnt stripped away your railfan spirit! keep it up!
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Oct 30th, 2007, 1:59am
on Oct 29th, 2007, 9:45pm, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Decided to head over to Nanaimo today to get some pictures of the ol' E&N. Dunno why, I work around these things 5 days a week and on my days off I go take pictures of another railroad, I must be insane LOL.  
 

 
Great shots Tyler! I wish I could get some time off to do the same thing.  
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Oct 30th, 2007, 9:49am
Great photos Tyler! Looking at these will inspire me to get out and start shooting again with my new camera. With the trees being cut down along the road by the yard it opens up new photo angles along the side looking down.
 
Dave
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Nov 1st, 2007, 2:41am
Found this photo tonight. What siding is this in Chemainus?
 
http://www.pbase.com/cvcc/image/46130932
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Nov 1st, 2007, 6:54am
The siding is in the south end of town.  South switch is near where the steam locomotive is on display & north switch was removed years ago by CP
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Nov 1st, 2007, 12:42pm
on Nov 1st, 2007, 6:54am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The siding is in the south end of town.  South switch is near where the steam locomotive is on display & north switch was removed years ago by CP

This must have been an afternoon move.  The train is facing north "waiting for the dayliner" so that would be about 15:45 - 16:00, since the guys are in the cab and not at the golf course club house having coffee.
 
In the background, you can see some wires...  Henry Road.  The Arbutus tree behind the hoppers is the Haul Road; between the Haul Road & Henry Road was  where the steam locomotive's roundhouse was (where the dirt parking lot is now).
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Nov 1st, 2007, 2:43pm
Thanks for the clarification on street names - I know where I'm going there but I'll be darned if I know street names.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 10th, 2007, 9:37pm
trying out my new scanner... not sure about the resizing  so bear with me.. cant seem to get them centrerd.Any tips?   ive got quite a few more.this is from 1990.vic west e&n.
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Nov 10th, 2007, 9:49pm
on Nov 10th, 2007, 9:37pm, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
trying out my new scanner... not sure about the resizing  so bear with me.. cant seem to get them centrerd.Any tips?   ive got quite a few more.this is from 1990.vic west e&n.

 
 
Wow, two switchers in the yard in the early 90s?
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Nov 10th, 2007, 10:52pm
on Nov 10th, 2007, 9:37pm, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
trying out my new scanner... not sure about the resizing  so bear with me.. cant seem to get them centrerd.Any tips?   ive got quite a few more.this is from 1990.vic west e&n.

 
Good Lord. Clean ballast on the yard tracks. No weeds! It's a miracle.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Nov 11th, 2007, 12:09am
Hey Torch,
 
I presume with your new scanner you got some photo editing software, most have some basic stuff that comes with them.  After scanning, use the "crop" function to cut off all the blank space around the photo, save the new shape, then use the "resize" feature to blow it up to a max of 900 by 600 pixels, then resave it, as a jpg of course,  to post on the forum.  Should show up right on the thread without a thingy to click on.
 
Hope this helps.  If you knew all this already, you can tell me to shut my jaw  , and I will buy you a coffee  .
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Nov 11th, 2007, 12:14am
Nice Pic Moka. Seems weird to me to see the Victoria yard so active.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 11th, 2007, 12:48am
thanks  4744.. that did  help, actually... in all the  excitement of getting it the  scanner   i forgot that it came with all that software.. when i scan the  rest I will make sure they are cropped.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 11th, 2007, 5:39am
I think I got it now.. Anyways, this pic is the vic west yard in january 91.  Note the boxcars at the unloading dock..im pretty sure this is what had become of the albion yard when they tore it up and just moved a dock to vic west. Am I correct? anyhow, this was around 9 am or so after the budd went north and you can see the nanaimo bound train on the siding waiting for the power to couple onto it . The switch crew had made up the train as was usual after they did their other vic chores. Once I watched the northbound frieght leave the yard PUSHING a railbox bocar infront of the lead loco What an odd sight but they pushed it into the standard furniture spur only a km or so north .
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 11th, 2007, 5:53am
Look! GP-35s !   Northbound @ thetis lake overpass,winter 1990.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 11th, 2007, 5:55am
same train.. not the greatest pic,sorry.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 11th, 2007, 6:08am
Cool pics, Torch! Glad you got the scanner figured out, now you have to get all your pics on here!!  BTW, the 2nd Thetis pic is pretty sweet  
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Nov 11th, 2007, 2:10pm
on Nov 11th, 2007, 5:55am, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
same train.. not the greatest pic,sorry.

 
Actually that is a very cool pic.
 
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 11th, 2007, 6:05pm
Great pics, Torch! Thanks for posting.
 
Dave
Posted by: prairie_dog_central Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 1:18am
Old shots from spring, 06, just before I moved back to Vancouver. Scanned from slide.
Posted by: prairie_dog_central Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 1:19am
Spring 06, also a slide, I remember it being a Sunday.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 2:59am
nice!  Im already missing  the "old  twins' and the  "beast".
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 3:18am
Remember the  buckerfields in south duncan? Couple snapshots...1990.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 3:21am
another.. note the cp boxcar in the back!  wow..unloading grain from a boxcar mustve sucked. lol
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 3:23am
vic west again.. early 90s. Look at all the  propane tankers in the yard, The attempts at unloading propane at the loading dock proved unsuccessful when they realized there was no unloading lading rack.  lol   See the old  clay slurry hoppers  next to the car shop?  I remember the  day when those finally left victoria on a northbound.
Posted by: craigolio Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 7:27am
Did Top Shelf used to be Buckerfield's or are they two different locations?
 
Craig
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 7:33am
two different locations. Buckerfields was about 2 kms to the north of  where top shelf is.  I have a couple pics of top shelf  from the  same roll  that i will post tommorow.
Posted by: craigolio Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 11:15am
Great!  Thanks
 
Craig
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 12th, 2007, 9:21pm
Great pics Torch, it looks like you've got the scanner all figured out. The photo looking down from the hill at the end of the yard is one angle I wish I'd have shot from more. Thanks for posting.
 
Dave
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 1:38am
Nice pics of Buckerfields Torch...my dad worked there for a few years, when he worked there boxcars with grain were starting to come in smaller numbers replaced by more and more hoppers, the job of finishing unloading a boxcar was left for the kid with the after school job! I once saw a CP boxcar half full of bran, it looked like compacted sawdust! Buckerfields continued to receive boxcars right up until the switch was taken out but the contents were bags of finished products like beet pulp, dog food, and fertilizer, another interesting thing was if you purchased a carload of products through Buckerfields they would arrange for CP to spot it at the nearest siding for you to unload, my brother in law who is a farmer had CP boxcars of fertilizer and bale twine spotted at Cobble Hill siding on several occasions.
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 2:18am
on Nov 11th, 2007, 2:10pm, Coastrail wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Actually that is a very cool pic.
 

 
I also agree that it's a great photo. Really captures something with that mix of rolling stock. Thanks so much for posting, Moka.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:44pm
Here's a set of shots taken on a Dayliner trip on June 27, 1985.
 
Dave
 
1. Budd cars being moved to the station from the roundhouse area in the morning.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:46pm
2. At the station ready for the run up island (downtown Victoria station not yet built at this time).
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:47pm
3. Niagara Canyon Bridge.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:48pm
4. Arbutus Canyon Bridge.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:49pm
5. Tunnel.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:52pm
6. Nanaimo.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:53pm
7. Nanaimo.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:54pm
8. Parksville.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:56pm
9. Courtenay.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:57pm
10. Courtenay.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 4:59pm
11. Back at the station in Vic West.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 5:00pm
12. Budd cars being moved back to the roundhouse.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 5:02pm
13. When arriving back in Victoria, I found a northbound freight made up and ready to depart.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 5:04pm
14.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 5:10pm
15. Crossing Esquimalt Rd.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 5:11pm
16.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 5:18pm
Nice,Dave!  My fave shots  are  the  ones  with the  frieght leaving vic.. I like the caboose shot too. Many of us  never  focused on the  caboose. Wonder where that lumber wouldve come from? Maybe the bcfp mill on the CN line?
Posted by: boxcar Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 5:53pm
and that passenger car in the yard by what looks like a water tanker, i wonder why there would be a coach in the yard.
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Nov 13th, 2007, 8:06pm
Nice pics Dave,
 
I especially like the shots of the yard. This would have been a couple of years before they re-aligned the main line and Songhees Rd. By this time, most if not all of the industries on the Songhees were gone. I could be wrong.
 
Aaron
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Nov 14th, 2007, 2:51am
Those are all great shot as usual.  That is the great thing about this group is how good and how rare all the shots are.
When they were still using the concrete cube I was visiting my sister who lived in the area and walked over and peaked into the stalls of the roundhouse and was suprised to find each stall had a passenger car in it. I don't know of them actually being used for anything and I would guess they could be some of the cars that wound up on BC Rail eventually.  Im at a lose to remember just what year it was but when your world only has dayliners in it to find passenger cars hiding in the shop is a real suprise.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 14th, 2007, 10:27pm
I'm starting to feel like a broken record, but I'm going to say it anyways........great pictures Dave!! They are all great, I think pic #16 was my fave from that last set, don't see many like that.  
I have another question though, why would CN interchange the bulkheads w/lumber over to the E&N? Where were they going that CN couldn't ship them out on their own barge?
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 12:26pm
Great pictures, Dave and Moka.  My fave is prbably Moka's second Thetis shot--nice to see what kind of fright cars were running back then, and in a very pastoral setting--sweet.  I had left the Island by the time of your pictures, so I really appreciate seeing what was around in the early 90s.  Thanks for sharing.
 
And Dave, your shot of the fright about to leave Victoria is an eye-opener--I had forgotten what a great mix of traffic you could still see back then.
 
Quote:
I have another question though, why would CN interchange the bulkheads w/lumber over to the E&N? Where were they going that CN couldn't ship them out on their own barge?

 
vicguy, I believe both Victoria Pylwood and BCFP had reciprocal switching agreements with both railways.  Switch lists from that era show CN would deliver CP cars to BCFP for loading, and then haul them back to the interchange for forwarding over CP.  Similarly, the E&N would deliver CN cars to VicPly and then run them back to the CN at Victoria.  Of course, both shippers also had the option of using their "home" road.  Larger shippers had that kind of leverage, and having some competition kept the railways honest!
 
Quote:
and that passenger car in the yard by what looks like a water tanker, i wonder why there would be a coach in the yard.

 
boxcar, that coach was at that time CP 411526, assigned to the Victoria auxilliary.  It's an old colonist car, ex-CP 2514, built in 1905, and is now part of the WCRA collection in Squamish, where it has been restored.
Posted by: boxcar Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 12:51pm
thanks for that dayliner, just thought it weird to have a passenger car on a frieght road but that makes sense.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 6:05pm
Here's a set of photos taken on July 7, 1985 showing the day's activities.
 
Dave
 
1. A few photos around the yard before anything was happening.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 6:07pm
2
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3
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 6:11pm
4. Over to the Store St. Albion yard to see a little switching. (I posted these previously on the Store St. thread but have included them again here for continuity).
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5.
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6.
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7.
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8. Back to the main yard to watch a northbound freight being made up.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 6:17pm
9.
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10.
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11.
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12.
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13.
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14.
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15.
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16.
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17.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 6:32pm
18. Headed north along the tracks and caught the southbound Dayliner behind the warehouses on Viewfield Rd. in Esquimalt. (View is looking south, Budd cars are moving away from me).
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 6:35pm
19. Headed a little further north and caught the freight leaving town approaching the Hutchinson Ave. road crossing in Esquimalt.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 8:35pm
Awesome.......just awesome......I really don't know what to say anymore other than you're really spoiling us, Dave!! I love the shots from up on the rock of the SW setting up the northbound freight for the geep!  
 
Dayliner: thanks for the explanation, that's really cool that that all happened here! I think I was born in the wrong era.....
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 16th, 2007, 11:37pm
Dave, I must say... those  are my  favorite  sequence  shots  on this whole forum so far.. its like magic.. tkaes me  right back.. seems most of the northbounds around that time were about 8-10 cars long.  Mustve been summer as  I see the water car. I miss how the car shop was actually functional back then.  A real railroad.  and a  tiny yard!(same goes for albion yard)   I recall in the mid 80s that most northbounds left around 6 ish..   I lived in langford and they came throo pretty much 6 30 on the dot. Guess that wouldve gave them time to switch vic plywood in between. Sometimes they would switch vanisle  moulding in langford on a northbound trip!!! that included a 'flying switch' move. I watched that happen a couple times.  Then they might switch the big warehous off jacklin road.. I cant rememebr the name of what it was back then even though my uncle was a  warehouse manager at the time.. Funny.. he  used to mention at family dinners  about them getting a  few boxcars at the time and I regret not asking him more about it  or bieng down there more often to watch them come in . Im sure he  couldve granted me a more upclose view from inside the loading docks.. shooot.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 17th, 2007, 12:03am
pardon the quality of some of my shots.. wasnt much of a photog.  This is a short sequence of a northbound throo view royal in 1990. Train was 12 cars. Many of the early 90s vic turns were longer than in the 80s! Some of you guys may recall.. Corfton spur.. you lived in langford around then, im sure you can concur.. I d  see trains as  long as 18 cars... Longer if they had some of the flats used for the army moves.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 17th, 2007, 12:04am
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Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 17th, 2007, 12:06am
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Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 17th, 2007, 12:08am
Welcox... I tried posting this a while ago by taking a foto of  a foto. this one is better. 1990 summer. Note  8 locomotives at the time!
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 17th, 2007, 12:09am
yard view.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Nov 17th, 2007, 12:11am
Vic west yard. Empty and wet.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Nov 17th, 2007, 1:42am
on Nov 17th, 2007, 12:08am, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Welcox... I tried posting this a while ago by taking a foto of  a foto. this one is better. 1990 summer. Note  8 locomotives at the time!

That makes sense - 3 units for Port Alberni turns, 1 unit Wellcox/Nanaimo switcher, 2 Victoria Turn, 2 spare
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Nov 17th, 2007, 5:45pm
on Nov 17th, 2007, 1:42am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

That makes sense - 3 units for Port Alberni turns, 1 unit Wellcox/Nanaimo switcher, 2 Victoria Turn, 2 spare

6 GP-38's, 2 GP-35's.  Strange not to see a high-hood GP-7/9 or switcher........
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Nov 17th, 2007, 7:48pm
By the time we got the 38's & 35's over here, unrebuilt GP9s were becoming very rare.  Also, what would be the point of keeping a SW at Welllcox.  Can't use if for anything else whereas a GP could be used as a spare if needed
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 18th, 2007, 3:01pm
Nice shots, Torch, especially the View Royal ones. I never did photograph anything around there. Here's a few shots of a northbound freight taken on July 11, 1985.
 
Dave
 
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Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 18th, 2007, 3:02pm
2. Budd cars being moved back to the roundhouse after the day's run.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 18th, 2007, 3:03pm
3. Langford. Waiting....
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 18th, 2007, 3:09pm
4. Here it comes. It appears the 2 boxcars originally behind the locomotive have been switched out before reaching Langford.
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Nov 18th, 2007, 4:21pm
Nice shots Dave.
 
The yard was sure busy even in '85.
 
It sad to see the roundhouse today, just sit and rot. It seems more and more unlikely that it will be used for a rail museum. The developer is wanting to turn it into a False Creek type joint with mostly commerical and a   "rail interpretation centre" . The E&N corridor is to be preserved for future commuter rail use.
 
here is the link to that project.
 
http://roundhousevictoria.com/pdf/Application_Section_05.pdf
 
Aaron
 
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Nov 18th, 2007, 4:44pm
on Nov 18th, 2007, 3:09pm, Goose5 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
4. Here it comes. It appears the 2 boxcars originally behind the locomotive have been switched out before reaching Langford.

 
Most likely left at Victoria Plywood.
 
J\
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Nov 18th, 2007, 6:15pm
Great pics, amazing(and sad) what can change in what is really a short time..
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Nov 20th, 2007, 3:58am
Goose5, Torch, Everyone, thanks all!  I'm lovin' every minute of your pics!
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Nov 20th, 2007, 6:14pm
on Nov 13th, 2007, 5:18pm, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
. Wonder where that lumber wouldve come from? Maybe the bcfp mill on the CN line?

 
Could it have been from the mill in Langford, were they still active at that time? What year did that mill burn down? It would make sense if they switched it going south and hauled the load north.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 2:13pm
on Nov 17th, 2007, 5:45pm, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

6 GP-38's, 2 GP-35's.  Strange not to see a high-hood GP-7/9 or switcher........

 
 
3 GP35's, 5009 in the middle has the snowshields that the GP38AC's also had..remaining unrebuilt GP9's, of which there were only a handful left, were all transferred east in 1989 prior to rebuilding. I think 8617 was the last one in the lower mainland.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 6:35pm
Here's a set of shots taken on July 28, 1985.
 
Dave
 
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Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 6:42pm
5. Grass and weeds have been cut around the passenger car in preparation for it to be interchanged over to CN and sent to Vancouver on their barge (have more photos of this in upcoming rolls).
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Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 6:51pm
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Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 6:53pm
13. Crossing Wilson St. in Vic West.
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 8:31pm
Those are truly great pictures. Still amazed how busy the yard was in the late 80s.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 8:36pm
Damn CP for killing this railway!! So my favorite shots from this set are 10, 13 and the roster shots of 8839. Very cool, thanks Dave  
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 9:52pm
I'm trying to figure out what angle/where pic #2 was taken from.
 
Was there once 4 tracks curving around the hill behind the roundhouse toward downtown? There are two tracks there now, and the 'siding' never gets any use anymore.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 10:11pm
on Nov 21st, 2007, 9:52pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I'm trying to figure out what angle/where pic #2 was taken from.
 
Was there once 4 tracks curving around the hill behind the roundhouse toward downtown? There are two tracks there now, and the 'siding' never gets any use anymore.

 
 
I think you're right, if you look to the far right of pics 5 and 6 you can see the boxcars from picture 2  
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 21st, 2007, 10:23pm
Yes guys, there were 4 tracks curving around the hill. 2 of them were removed in the late '80's.  
 
Dave
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Nov 22nd, 2007, 1:04am
the yard after the roundhouse was removed in I think 89 when they realigned Songhees Rd. It was then realigned as well with only the mainline and siding remaining. This was in preparation of the residential developments in the songhees.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Nov 22nd, 2007, 11:01am
88 or 89 seem right.  By that time there was little industry left in Victoria that shipped by rail and the other tracks were not needed.  The old coach yatd left enough storage space and all that was needed was the passing track
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Nov 22nd, 2007, 3:56pm
First Pacific Wilderness Railway train to Victoria.
Posted by: El-e-va-tion Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 1:06am
on Nov 17th, 2007, 12:11am, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Vic west yard. Empty and wet.

 
What are those little small hopper cars, and where did they go to?
Posted by: craigolio Posted on: Nov 24th, 2007, 11:21pm
Hello everybody.  Does anyone have pics of the Arbutus Canyon bridge they could share.  Strangely, what I really need is pictures of the land around the bridge, like the river and surrounding landscape so i can model the canyon and the bridge.  I have a few good pics of the bridge but have no idea what it looks like in the canyon it's self.  Now that I think of it I need the same for the Niagara Canyon.  Thanks, Craig
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Nov 25th, 2007, 9:15pm
on Nov 24th, 2007, 11:21pm, craigolio wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hello everybody.  Does anyone have pics of the Arbutus Canyon bridge they could share.  Strangely, what I really need is pictures of the land around the bridge, like the river and surrounding landscape so i can model the canyon and the bridge.  I have a few good pics of the bridge but have no idea what it looks like in the canyon it's self.  Now that I think of it I need the same for the Niagara Canyon.  Thanks, Craig

Look in other threads.  Use the search option.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Nov 26th, 2007, 6:39pm
A few assorted shots taken around the yard on Aug. 5, 1985.
 
Dave
 
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Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Nov 27th, 2007, 11:26am
Very cool rolling stock, Dave.  
 
Thanks again for all you've posted!
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Dec 1st, 2007, 12:31am
on Nov 30th, 2007, 11:02pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Never noticed this sitting in the grass before.

I think it came off 3870.  It looked a bit different in it's last days but couldn't place what had changed until seeing that pic
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Dec 1st, 2007, 2:17am
on Dec 1st, 2007, 12:31am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I think it came off 3870.  It looked a bit different in it's last days but couldn't place what had changed until seeing that pic

 
3809 probably , if you look at 3870 it never had a plow.
Posted by: CNslavecamp Posted on: Dec 1st, 2007, 12:31pm
That plow has been there since 2002, the twins could not work nose to nose with that setup.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 3rd, 2007, 8:37pm
A couple of shots taken on Aug. 18, 1985.
 
Dave
 
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Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 3rd, 2007, 8:39pm
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Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Dec 3rd, 2007, 9:40pm
Wow, the carshops were sure used alot in 85. I see they even did maintenance on CN equipment as well.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 5th, 2007, 5:47pm
A few shots taken on Aug. 28, 1985.
 
Dave
 
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Posted by: Cody Posted on: Dec 7th, 2007, 1:07am
It's relentless Goose!    When does your book come out?    
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Dec 7th, 2007, 1:59am
Cool...Way Cool!
 
Where is that level crossing shot taken with the switcher on it?
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Dec 7th, 2007, 2:12am
on Dec 7th, 2007, 1:59am, CPRail4744 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Cool...Way Cool!
 
Where is that level crossing shot taken with the switcher on it?

Esquimalt Rd between Robert & Russell.
 
Vic West, 1/4 mile from the Shops.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 1:59am
Budd Cars ready to leave Courtenay, Winter of 1984/85, Photo by Frank Carter.  
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 2:10am
Second try, CPR 8828 with North bound cars arriving Courtenay Winter of84/85. Frank Carter photo.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 2:45am
Third try lucky I hope ,CPR 8828 ready to leave Courtenay with South bound passenger train ,winter of 1884/85
Posted by: torch Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 5:52am
neat to know they used geep 9s and budds back in 1884!  lol
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 8:48am
Good catch on a not-too-common occurrence.  I remember seeing that same train get back to Victoria.  They only had one GP there at the time.  When they got back in, the freight took the engine for it's run up Island
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 5:30pm
second try; 1239@ Welcox Photo by Frank Carter, Taken may 1981.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 6:25pm
North bound Courtenay Turn south of Byrn (Parksville) March 1985 Photo by Frank Carter,
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 6:52pm
Another of Welcox Yard taken by Frank Carter in of May 1981. Some GP 9's along with two Baldwin swichers # 7070 and I would think 7072 in the background.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 6:57pm
on Dec 13th, 2007, 5:30pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
second try; 1239@ Welcox Photo by Frank Carter, Taken may 1981.

Sorry this should of 1985, I need stronger glasses!
Posted by: torch Posted on: Dec 13th, 2007, 9:13pm
these are  awesome pictures!
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Dec 14th, 2007, 11:15am
Wow! Thanks for those photos, tfctrains. I didn't know that 1239 was on the island in the past.
 
 
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Dec 16th, 2007, 11:21pm
I think I counted 32+ tank cars, most of them loaded.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Dec 17th, 2007, 1:45am
Wow that is a lot of tank cars.
 
This must represent some income for the railway. Too bad they couldn't transload at points closer to the trucks' final destinations...
 
Unit tank trains over the Malahat!  
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 19th, 2007, 2:11am
Via Rail # 6135 @ Royston Road Crossing Dec 2, 2007, Train was 1 hour late and making up time, It was a thrill to see! Photo by Frank Carter
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Dec 19th, 2007, 3:11pm
Man it is nice to see things like that(as in pictures depicting things that could have been anytime in the last 50 years) in almost 2008!  An RDC at speed, on a snow covered "branchline"...good to know that things are still right with the world in some little corners of it!
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Dec 19th, 2007, 4:03pm
Great picture! That's a lot of snow it's throwing in all directions. If it's throwing that much snow down there, what happened when it got to you?  
Posted by: El-e-va-tion Posted on: Dec 19th, 2007, 6:42pm
on Dec 19th, 2007, 2:11am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Via Rail # 6135 @ Royston Road Crossing Carter

 
What part of the Island is that?
 
What area's get more snow on the line then others?
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Dec 19th, 2007, 8:37pm
Great pictures, Frank and Richard. I didn't notice any hoppers in Richards photos, thats possibly the first photo of Wellcox I've seen like that.
 
Bring back the pole car sets too!
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 19th, 2007, 11:58pm
on Dec 19th, 2007, 4:03pm, Balto wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great picture! That's a lot of snow it's throwing in all directions. If it's throwing that much snow down there, what happened when it got to you?  

I missed the best shot as it hit the windrow of snow at the crossing, for some reason that picture didn't turn out, about that time I was starting to run.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 12:02am
on Dec 19th, 2007, 6:42pm, El-e-va-tion wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
What part of the Island is that?
 
What area's get more snow on the line then others?

Royston is about 4 miles south of Courtenay,  the end of the line. There is sometimes more snow on the north end than the south end.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 12:08am
on Dec 19th, 2007, 8:37pm, FSD8014 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great pictures, Frank and Richard. I didn't notice any hoppers in Richards photos, thats possibly the first photo of Wellcox I've seen like that.
 
Bring back the pole car sets too!

Thank you, poles are still stocked piled at Courtenay so there is hope, I understand that the poles were being shiped back east, when the cars returned from east maybe Ex CPR 7069 could be loaded on the idler flats and be returned to Island.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 12:34am
North bound Budd Cars plowing about 2 feet of snow, Frank Cooper Engineer, Frank Carter Photo.
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 12:44am
on Dec 20th, 2007, 12:34am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
North bound Budd Cars plowing about 2 feet of snow, Frank Cooper Engineer, Frank Carter Photo.
Thats one of the coolest pix I've ever seen of the E&N. Thank you Frank.
Posted by: melee Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 1:17am
taken at Wellcox June 2 2002 photo by Lee Waterton
Posted by: El-e-va-tion Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 2:42am
on Mar 24th, 2007, 11:21pm, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)
PAW near the top of the Malahat.

 
Hey Crash, how'd you get this shot? I would think a bit of a hike?
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 3:42am
on Dec 20th, 2007, 2:42am, El-e-va-tion wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Hey Crash, how'd you get this shot?

 
I didn't, Dave Wilkie did. He was well known for those types of shots.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 7:23pm
Lots of nice shots in the recent posts. Compliments to the photographers. Great stuff. I've been doing lots of scanning recently getting stuff ready for posting in the next little while. Here's a collection of shots taken in November, 1985.
 
Dave
 
1. Boxcar in the Albion yard taken on Nov. 4, 1985.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 7:25pm
2. Nov. 5, 1985.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 7:26pm
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Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 7:30pm
4. A series of photos taken on a Dayliner trip on a snowy Nov. 22, 1985. The first and third shots show an early morning Store St. switch job trapped until the Dayliner leaves the station.
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 7:31pm
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Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 7:34pm
7. Niagara Canyon.
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Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 7:37pm
9. Arbutus Canyon.
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11. Nanaimo (next 2).
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12.
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13. Courtenay (next 3).
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14.
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Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 7:51pm
16. Nanaimo (next 2).
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2007, 7:52pm
17.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 21st, 2007, 1:26am
Great pictures, E&N Dayliner hit a van at Royston road to-day on its Northbound trip no one was injuried, sorry no pictures.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Dec 21st, 2007, 12:43pm
on Dec 20th, 2007, 12:34am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
North bound Budd Cars plowing about 2 feet of snow, Frank Cooper Engineer, Frank Carter Photo.

 
 
That is my new desktop background. One of the coolest E&N pics I have seen in quites some time.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Dec 22nd, 2007, 3:15am
Very excellent and unique shots as usual, Goose5,  thanks again!
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2008, 7:10pm
Happy New Year everyone and here's some shots taken on Nov. 26, 1985.
 
Dave
 
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Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Jan 4th, 2008, 1:19am
I guess CP built the covered loading dock in the main yard after pulling the extra tracks that ran around the hill...that makes sense.
 
Is that the end of a red boxcar I see in the spur that runs past Russel's station?
Posted by: FSD8014 Posted on: Jan 4th, 2008, 8:52pm
on Jan 4th, 2008, 1:19am, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Is that the end of a red boxcar I see in the spur that runs past Russel's station?

More probably an Allied Van lines van trailer. The occupant, Victoria Van & Storage is an agent for them. Its might still be there.
 
Thanks Goose for posting these pix. These are pretty good.
Posted by: boxcar Posted on: Jan 6th, 2008, 10:19pm
it could be a box, vic van & storage used to get spotted as well as the chevron place.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jan 19th, 2008, 3:13am
on Jan 18th, 2008, 11:33pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well, by next week we'll probably be taking pictures of Welcox yard through a chain link fence.  They started putting it up a couple of days ago.

 
I'm not surprised. It's about time they did something about security around Wellcox.
 
BTW, it would be nice if they leveled the old CP Express building and put some kind of trans-load in there.
Posted by: CrashNational Posted on: Jan 20th, 2008, 12:01am
Found this postcard in my collection. Photo by Richard Isles. BC-31 trailing CP RDC2 9103 northbound at Somenos.  
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 20th, 2008, 2:28am
Budd Car ready to leave Courtenay heading south! Photo by F.Carter
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 29th, 2008, 12:53am
Sorry we missed you in Campbell River!
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Feb 15th, 2008, 7:34pm
Tfctrains' photo of CPR 8828 arriving at Courtenay prompted me to post this photo of the same train dusting up the powder on the Trent River bridge northbound.  The date was December 29, 1984.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Feb 15th, 2008, 11:20pm
Sweet pic!
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Feb 16th, 2008, 1:02am
Thanks!
 
The scene was repeated the next day, December 30, 1984, in sunlight for a better exposure.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Feb 16th, 2008, 1:16am
on Feb 16th, 2008, 1:02am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks!
 
The scene was repeated the next day, December 30, 1984, in sunlight for a better exposure.

Anyone know how they would have to set this consist up?  Engines idling or fast idle in the RDCs (to run heat/ac) and brakes operated by the GP-9?   Would the drive shafts in the RDCs have to be dropped/removed or can they be pulled indefinitely in neutral?  
 
Nice shot either way!  Welcome to the forum.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 16th, 2008, 2:20am
Nice to see you on track young fellow, I need to see the Budd Car at Bayton now.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 16th, 2008, 2:42am
on Feb 16th, 2008, 1:16am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Anyone know how they would have to set this consist up?  Engines idling or fast idle in the RDCs (to run heat/ac) and brakes operated by the GP-9?   Would the drive shafts in the RDCs have to be dropped/removed or can they be pulled indefinitely in neutral?  
 
Nice shot either way!  Welcome to the forum.

Anytime that I have been on the cars when they are being pulled I believe they are in neutral, the reason they were being pulled was that it was very cold and they wanted to make sure there was to problems.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Feb 16th, 2008, 10:33pm
Snow accumulation, not temperature, would be the main concern.  Back then, they still had power in Victoria & the cheapest way to deal with it was to put the GP-9 on the dayliner.  Otherwise, pay a full crew to run cab hop or plow in front of the buddcar.
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Feb 17th, 2008, 12:16am
on Mar 25th, 2007, 2:08am, Coastrail wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I am surprised to see that Geeps were used back in the 60s on the Cowichan Sub. Even though its only an excursion train, I would have thought that the Baldwins would have been used.

 
Sorry to jump into this almost a year after your post ...
 
I remember that excursion!
I grew up close to the Cowichan Lake sub ... quite close to Hayward Junction. I remember seeing that excursion heading toward Lake Cowichan and having a very tricky time getting under the bridge that carried the old Island Highway about a mile from Hayward. The 85-foot passenger cars almost clipped the wooden bents of the bridge.
The entire train, cars and Geeps, came over from the mainland. It was the first time I ever saw a Geep!
The only other time I saw a train having trouble under that bridge was when a mobile spar tree, built on an old army tank chassis by Madill Ltd in Nanaimo, was being hauled on a flatcar. The track curved under the bridge and the overhang from the spar pole almost hit one of the bents.  
In both cases, the trains went through at less than a crawl, with a crewman watching closely!.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 17th, 2008, 12:23am
on Feb 16th, 2008, 10:33pm, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Snow accumulation, not temperature, would be the main concern.  Back then, they still had power in Victoria & the cheapest way to deal with it was to put the GP-9 on the dayliner.  Otherwise, pay a full crew to run cab hop or plow in front of the buddcar.

Yes you are right, and there may have been more snow on the south end of the Island, at the time the crew were friends of mine and I would meet them in Courtenay to help turn seats etc.  They mentioned to me at the time it was because of the cold weather.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Feb 17th, 2008, 1:10am
In case anyone is interested, the mountainrailway.com website has expanded to include classic RDC pictures.
 
Check out #9199 @ Nanaimo: http://www.mountainrailway.com/Roster%20Archive/RDC/CP%209100/CP%209199.htm
 
#9103 @ Parksville: http://www.mountainrailway.com/Roster%20Archive/RDC/CP%209100/CP%209103.htm
 
#9054 @ Nanaimo: http://www.mountainrailway.com/Roster%20Archive/RDC/CP%209000/CP%209054.htm
 
#9055 @ Nanaimo: http://www.mountainrailway.com/Roster%20Archive/RDC/CP%209000/CP%209055.htm
 
Index page: http://www.mountainrailway.com/Motive%20Power%20Page.htm
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2008, 12:03pm
What a difference a day makes ... went down today in the rain and took some shots...
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2008, 12:08pm
the pole cars are hidden down in the back
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2008, 12:09pm
lots of cars in the yard
Posted by: B_Winkler Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2008, 12:13pm
Not much going on this morning
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2008, 7:17pm
Those FMC hoppers are STILL there?
 
I took this picture on Dec. 24, 2007...
 
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2008, 9:50pm
If you notice they have set up the unloading auger in the later pic.   Maybe it's fertilizer and the customer was slow to collect.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2008, 11:57pm
on Feb 23rd, 2008, 9:50pm, Cody wrote:       (Click here for original message)
If you notice they have set up the unloading auger in the later pic.   Maybe it's fertilizer and the customer was slow to collect.

 
 
That's a reasonable explanation, thanks Cody.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2008, 2:30am
A picture from July 1990 of Welcox Yard.
Posted by: BCOL764 Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2008, 3:13am
on Mar 3rd, 2008, 2:30am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A picture from July 1990 of Welcox Yard.

 
Neat.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 6th, 2008, 2:34am
NB Budd Car winter of 92/93  taken just north of Trent River which is just south of Royston.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 6th, 2008, 3:33am
SB Budd Car near mile 136.5 with lots of horsepower up front. Two GP 38"S with a GP 30 in the middle, photo by Trevor Carter
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Mar 6th, 2008, 8:22am
on Mar 6th, 2008, 3:33am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
SB Budd Car near mile 136.5 with lots of horsepower up front. Two GP 38"S with a GP 30 in the middle, photo by Trevor Carter

Actually, the middle unit is a GP 35,  The 30's had the odd shaped cab roof and 500x (probably 5009) has the same cab design as the 38's do.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Mar 6th, 2008, 11:22am
on Mar 6th, 2008, 8:22am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Actually, the middle unit is a GP 35,  The 30's had the odd shaped cab roof and 500x (probably 5009) has the same cab design as the 38's do.

CP only had 2 such GP-30 units, 5000 & 5001; originally numbered 8200 & 8201 when new in 1963 and were renumbered in 1965.
Note the curved cab roof lines and the dynamic brake extends from the cab roof and is not a separate blister.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 6th, 2008, 4:41pm
She's an ugly one...    
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 6th, 2008, 6:42pm
on Mar 6th, 2008, 8:22am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Actually, the middle unit is a GP 35,  The 30's had the odd shaped cab roof and 500x (probably 5009) has the same cab design as the 38's do.

Yes, your are right, I checked with Trevor, I surmised that it was a GP 30 because of another picture that was in the same box of slides. It is terrible when you can't see like you once could. I will post the picture with the GP 30 later.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 6th, 2008, 7:01pm
As promised a photo with GP 30 5001 in a consist on the Port Alberni Sub, the picture is taken at Summit Lake which is just west of Arrowsmith. The photo was taken by Trevor Carter.
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Mar 7th, 2008, 1:50am
That is a lovely shot.  Makes me home sick something terrible.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 15th, 2008, 12:15am
on Mar 7th, 2008, 1:50am, Piglet wrote:       (Click here for original message)
That is a lovely shot.  Makes me home sick something terrible.

Where abouts is home?
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Mar 15th, 2008, 12:45am
Im an ex View Royalite and island roamer.  Rode the Victoria Pacific and all.  
Used to climb on box cars on the tracks opposite the Nanaimo station after walking down there from my grandmothers house.  And I remember some of the track work and stuff at Union Bay as well when we used to run up to work on our boat before we brought it down island.  Rode the Hillcrest engines when they were still working at the mill.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 15th, 2008, 1:11am
on Mar 15th, 2008, 12:45am, Piglet wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Im an ex View Royalite and island roamer.  Rode the Victoria Pacific and all.  
Used to climb on box cars on the tracks opposite the Nanaimo station after walking down there from my grandmothers house.  And I remember some of the track work and stuff at Union Bay as well when we used to run up to work on our boat before we brought it down island.  Rode the Hillcrest engines when they were still working at the mill.  
I grew up in Royston, just below the Water tank and Station, the CC(D) railway was in front the house, Comox Logging log cars from Comox lake were parked in front of the house before they were switch down to the log dump. We use to play on the box cars behind the house. Used to play on the section crews little flat cars at Union Bay before all the tracks were tore up. Have also rode the Victoria Pacific should have pictures of that somewhere. I have been to Elbe, Washington a few time to ride behind Hillcrest,s # 10.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 15th, 2008, 4:01pm
March 14, 2008 SB freight at French Creek with two empty covered hoppers, CP pole car 305590,  Soo Flat 5048, CP Pole car 305569, CP Flat 302306, CP Pole car 305564. The time is 12:31, the meet at Dunsmuir was at 12 noon .
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Mar 24th, 2008, 4:58am
Nice pics,  did you get some time off?
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 24th, 2008, 1:48pm
on Mar 24th, 2008, 4:58am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Nice pics,  did you get some time off?

 
An  interesting picture, it must be Sunday, it shows the Engineer starting is shift for the week, he is walking up the side of the car with his bags. I believe the Conductor changes on Saturday in the Nanaimo.
Posted by: BCOL764 Posted on: Mar 24th, 2008, 8:54pm
on Mar 24th, 2008, 4:58am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Nice pics,  did you get some time off?

 
2 weeks vacation.
Posted by: BCOL764 Posted on: Mar 28th, 2008, 2:07am
Some video from my vacation. Took the train from Langford to Qualicum Beach and back last Sunday. Made for a nice relaxing day.  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z6L2_RfvxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU_kn1vruEM
Posted by: prairie_dog_central Posted on: Apr 4th, 2008, 1:04am
Where's a train when I need one? Rosehill st. Nanaimo, fall 05
Posted by: Goose5 Posted on: Apr 5th, 2008, 3:23pm
I've gotten lazy recently and have posted anything for a couple of months, so here's a set of shots that picks up where I left off. These were taken on a very sunny Jan. 1, 1986 with the first 3 showing some boxcars in the Albion yard and the rest showing track removal around the yard in Vic West. Cheers,
 
Dave
 
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Posted by: torch Posted on: Apr 6th, 2008, 12:42am
love this  last shot, goose.. for those that dont know,  this is  the  switchback the  lead down to the ferry dock and the interchange with union pacific(by way of barge to seattle). There was other considerable industrial trackage facing the other direction toward the inner harbor too  including the seaspan frieght terminal and a shingle mill among other things.  cool fotos.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Apr 6th, 2008, 1:28am
on Apr 6th, 2008, 12:42am, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
love this  last shot, goose.. for those that dont know,  this is  the  switchback the  lead down to the ferry dock and the interchange with union pacific(by way of barge to seattle). There was other considerable industrial trackage facing the other direction toward the inner harbor too  including the seaspan frieght terminal and a shingle mill among other things.  cool fotos.

 
Torch, here is a CP drawing of the waterfront trackage. It is amazing how much track was still in place in the mid 80s when Goose took these superb shots he has posted. It is also suprising that so much industry disappeared in such a short period. Thanks for the great shots Goose.
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Apr 26th, 2008, 9:41pm
Here are some pics
First ones were just me killing some time before the train came.

 

 

 

 

 

 
At Last!

 

 
Not the smartest kids in Town! Must be in the water?

 
Dunsmuir Southbound Loaded after the meet with the Budd!

 

 
What a goat trail...weed control?  

 

 

 
Taking the siding.

 

 

 

 

 
My Fav!

 
Little treat for ya'all!
 
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/engine61enroute/th_62a8fc6a.jpg[/ IMG]
 
Hope that you like!
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Apr 26th, 2008, 10:49pm
Darwin Awards anybody?
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Apr 26th, 2008, 11:24pm
I nominate those girls for the category of disregard of personal safety by playing chicken with a freight train.
Posted by: boxcar Posted on: Apr 27th, 2008, 11:47pm
thats`3 days off
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Apr 28th, 2008, 12:39am
Hey enr, you mind if I post that last one in the safety forum?
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Apr 28th, 2008, 2:08pm
No prob!
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Apr 29th, 2008, 1:49am
on Apr 28th, 2008, 10:30pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)

ENR3004-> How the heck did you post a bunch of photos in one post..???  I've been trying to figure out how to do that for a couple of years.

 
Use an external photo hosting site, such as photobucket. Copy the direct link (image URL) from the host site, and paste it into your post like this:
 
Code:

[img]http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s27/gawilliamson/bacon-flowchart.jpg[/img]  

 
This will produce:
 
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: May 13th, 2008, 9:46pm
I took this picture on May 2nd while returning to Nanaimo from Gabriola Island.  I thought it might provide an interesting perspective of the barge ramp from sea.
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: May 14th, 2008, 12:18am
Those shots are great.  I haven't seen that angle since I last sailed into Nanaimo harbour years ago.  Well done.
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: May 14th, 2008, 6:02pm
That's a very cool looking structure. Great shots.
Posted by: 12-278a Posted on: May 21st, 2008, 2:04am
this was taken some time in April-May of 2006
Posted by: 12-278a Posted on: May 21st, 2008, 2:06am
looks like it would be good on the rails, it went fairly quickly on the gravel
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: May 24th, 2008, 11:27pm
on May 21st, 2008, 10:04pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Sweet!  I'll take one..  Anyone want to form the PA Sub Speeder Club?  

I am SO there!  
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jun 1st, 2008, 1:01am
Buddcars arriving in Victoria today
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jun 1st, 2008, 1:04am
Another one
Posted by: prairie_dog_central Posted on: Jun 1st, 2008, 1:24am
on May 21st, 2008, 2:04am, 12-278a wrote:       (Click here for original message)
this was taken some time in April-May of 2006

Man, wicked, someone should start making these and sell them on ebay. So awesome!
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Jun 6th, 2008, 10:12pm
Wow.. I thought I slept in this morning and missed summer, but the sun did come out later this afternoon so I went back to Welcox to get some pics of the transformer load in good light.  As luck would have it the Duncan turn came in shortly after.  Here are a few select pics of it.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Jun 6th, 2008, 10:20pm
Pulling forward to park for the day.  Un-ID railfan in distance there...
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Jun 7th, 2008, 12:13am
on Jun 7th, 2008, 12:07am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I hope those videos work.  They played a few times for me but now I get "We're sorry, this video is no longer available"  message.  This is a recent problem for me and reloading flashplayer etc.. no longer works.  I can't wait to dump this Windoze crap and go Mac.

 
Works fine for me. I'm running Vista with Netscape Navigator. I've had several friends complain about this issue though, so I think it's Youtube, and not your setup, that's to blame.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Jun 7th, 2008, 12:51am
on Jun 7th, 2008, 12:13am, CN7059 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Works fine for me. I'm running Vista with Netscape Navigator. I've had several friends complain about this issue though, so I think it's Youtube, and not your setup, that's to blame.

They worked ok for me 5-6 times each.   Using FireFox with Windows XP-Media.  Microsoft Explorer, ummm, well,  SUCKS!
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jun 7th, 2008, 1:57am
Video's worked fine for me, and I've got regular old Windows Exp.
Looks like you had a fine day railfanning!  Nice work!
Posted by: CN7303 Posted on: Jun 9th, 2008, 1:30am
The videos all seem to work fine when you access youtube through the Youtube.ca adress instead of Youtube.com.
Posted by: BCOL764 Posted on: Jun 10th, 2008, 4:00am
For those who have a trainorders.com subscription. A video from 1983, showing the southbound dayliner(with 6133 and 6134) going through Esquimalt, and a few shots from around the Victoria yard. Check out the tracks though, look about the same as they do now.  
 
http://www.trainorders.com/avshare/detail.php?id=2040&adodb_next_page=2
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jun 13th, 2008, 1:27am
Picture from the past, Nov 1981 photo of French Creek Trestle with North Bound Passenger train.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jun 13th, 2008, 1:59am
More pictures from the past taken July 1981 of the Victoria switcher 7072   on its way back from Langford near mile 5.3.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jun 13th, 2008, 2:13am
Another picture from the past, also taken July 1981 of North bound frieght at Mile 14,  Niagara Canyon Bridge showing G.P. 9 8646 with Baldwin switcher 7072. If my memory services me well, I believe 7072 was along to switch the Crofton spur , one of the last times that it was switched by the E.N.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Jun 13th, 2008, 3:58am
oh goodness.. these  are  great pictures! got any more from that era? awesome..  I remember the langford" wayfreight"  well  as I lived in langford between  around those times  .. 70s and 80s.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jun 13th, 2008, 9:05am
on Jun 13th, 2008, 2:13am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Another picture from the past, also taken July 1981 of North bound frieght at Mile 14,  Niagara Canyon Bridge showing G.P. 9 8646 with Baldwin switcher 7072. If my memory services me well, I believe 7072 was along to switch the Crofton spur , one of the last times that it was switched by the E.N.

Either that, or it wag going to Wellcox and being swapped with a switcher  up there.  They did seem to change them around a lot
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jun 20th, 2008, 2:28am
Nov 1983, Southbound Courtenay Turn at mile 121 (Mud Bay) with G.P. 9 8684 leading.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jun 24th, 2008, 1:58am
Northbound freight June 20, 2008 at Tsable River.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jun 24th, 2008, 2:02am
Southbound freight June 20, 2008. The freight had just met the Northbound Budd cars at Buckley Bay.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jun 24th, 2008, 2:45am
Great pics.  (& nice time difference) Thanks for posting
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Jun 27th, 2008, 1:12am
Some old slides from the late seventies--hope the historical interest outweighs the poor technical quality.  First, RDC2 9103 at MP 0 for the ninetieth anniversary of the Victoria extension.  No station at this location in those days, so this was a special run.  Get a load of the semaphores protecting the Johnson Street bridge.  March 29, 1978.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Jun 27th, 2008, 1:14am
The same car a few months later at Nanaimo on train 1.  By this time, a second RDC had been added to the train--that's 9067 behind.  August 1978.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Jun 27th, 2008, 1:16am
Train 2 at Qualicum Beach:  9067 and 9103.  August 1978.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Jun 27th, 2008, 1:18am
haha! I was  there  that  day of the photo of  the victoria  celebration! thats  awesome! memories.
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Jul 13th, 2008, 9:31pm
Rear end of Budd cars southbound through Hayward on July 3, 2008.
 
Will
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jul 18th, 2008, 8:18pm
Well, I did not get my house work done today either. I was in town just before 10 o'clock this morning, on my way home I would take the long way through Royston. I better check the pole spur on my way. The brush has grown so much you cannot see if the train is there or not, so I got as close as could to the tracks with out walking up to them, turned the car of and listened sure enough I could hear a locomotive idling. Well I think I will wait for it at Royston road.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jul 18th, 2008, 8:27pm
I did not think the Royston shot turned out that well, it was hard see the sceen in the bright sun light. Shall I head up Royston Road to my home in Cumberland. Maybe just one more, Buckley Bay , its not to far.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jul 18th, 2008, 8:31pm
The sun was not quite right at Buckley Bay , the west side of the train was a bit shaded. Maybe just a couple of more tries a little farther south.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jul 18th, 2008, 8:37pm
The  last shot was at Berray Rd mile 120.1, its not that much further to Bowser.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jul 18th, 2008, 8:42pm
Well I am this close to Dunsmuir, I may as well see the meet.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jul 18th, 2008, 9:01pm
Although the meet picture did not turn out well I thought I would share it with you. This shot shows SRY 129 and 124 leaving Dunsmuir. They have a bit of hill ahead. I remember some of the older engineer's telling me when they were still hauling coal from Union Bay they sometimes would have to double the hill ahead. Well it is time to turn around and head for home. Lunch at Buckley Bay, I better pick up something for supper, back to Courtenay. I think I will post to-days picture's before supper so it's not late for every one to see . Maybe I will tidy the house up tomorrow, I am not sure when I will cut the grass? It's tough being retired! Richard I tried phoning you  from Dunsmuir to let you know the train was on it's way, it said your phone was out of service.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jul 18th, 2008, 9:04pm
Sorry, I just noticed, the time displayed is not right , it should read a hour later, I quess I am still on standard time.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Jul 19th, 2008, 1:45am
I think we all would agree that you made the right choice of what to do on your housekeeping day, tfctrains!
 
Amazing how much dusting and vacuuming we can all get done when we sit at our computer terminals and enjoy your pictures.  Well done!  And the meet picture is just fine, has that slightly vintage-looking fuzz to it that gives it a definite appeal.  Glad you kept finding reasons to chase the train.
 
We all need to get that reassurance that there is still more than just ONE rail operation happening at one time on our little line!
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jul 19th, 2008, 1:56am
Thank you, you just made my day. It was nice to get out, I only seen one other fan out taking pictures.
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Jul 20th, 2008, 1:35am
I have just posted a short video of the Budd cars northbound through Hayward (shot July 4) on trainorders.com.
I have also just signed up for youtube (reluctantly ...) and have tried to post it there as well. It seems to take a hell of a long time to "process" my video clip!
It was available immediately on trainorders ...
Needless to say, this is my first attempt at posting any of my video stuff online.
If youtube ever finishes processing, I will try to post the link!
Will
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Jul 20th, 2008, 1:52am

Here's the link to the video I have posted on Youtube:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfN8vCZa_DM
 
It is very doubtful I will post anything there again!
 
They completely screwed up my video! Not only did they trash the quality but they also scrunched it to 4x3 from 16x9 format ... which makes it look absolutely stupid!
 
You would think that an outfit like Youtube would be using 21st Century technology! Jeez ... even an old phart like me knows that widescreen is the only way to go these days!
Will
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Jul 20th, 2008, 1:36pm
Yeah, YouTube is way behind the times when it comes to compression and encoding formats.  It can take a while to "process" it but on places like TO it probably doesn't even touch the file and just makes it available for download as is.
 
On YT, the problem is if you record in a larger format than their 320x 280 format, it uses an old codec to resize and recompress the file which slaughters the resolution.  I've read elsewhere that they don't want to pay for the rights to use more modern and efficient codecs.  It's almost heartbreaking to see the final results after uploading and comparing it to the original.  Many times I have almost pulled vids down right after because I thought it was embarrassing.
 
There are a few tricks that can be used to help improve the final YT results, I use DivX Converter and there are settings you can use that can maximize the resolution while doing a maximum compression.  But it's a very time consuming and painful process.
 
Also (as a way to get around the "..not available.." message) sometimes a "decent" version of the video can be downloaded from YT.  Unknown to many there are sometimes 2 versions of the video available.  If you goto keepvid.com, you can copy/paste the URL of the YouTube vid into the appropriate box and select "YouTube" it will provide you with 2 versions to download.  One will be the vid you see on YT and the other will be a higher resolution one (if available) in .mp4 format.  Just save it with a name of your choice and put .flv as the extension.  ie: canfor.flv   I use VLC Player as it plays every type of vid out there and is a free program very simple to use.  I've been using it for the past few years and haven't seen anything better.
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Jul 20th, 2008, 5:59pm
on Jul 20th, 2008, 1:36pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Yeah, YouTube is way behind the times when it comes to compression and encoding formats.  It can take a while to "process" it but on places like TO it probably doesn't even touch the file and just makes it available for download as is.
 
On YT, the problem is if you record in a larger format than their 320x 280 format, it uses an old codec to resize and recompress the file which slaughters the resolution.  I've read elsewhere that they don't want to pay for the rights to use more modern and efficient codecs.  .

 
I have never worked with DivX (at least not that I know of!).
I do all my video capture/editing/conversion in Pinnacle Studio (currently using version 11).
What really ticked me off was the way Utoob (when I get ticked with an outfit I come up with nasty ways of twisting their name) arbitrarily switched it from 16x9 t0 4x3!
I do about 90% of my shooting in widescreen. I sure as hell have no intention of switching back to 4x3 just to post it on that website!
I know I have a fair amount of webspace available to me from my isp (I have a business account through my cable company) and will look into posting the occasional bit on my own and then post the address for those who might be interested. I will be checking with the cable company about that tomorrow.
will keep you informed. I only have one other short clip from my one-week visit to the Island -- single Budd car (6135) arriving in Duncan nb on July 8.  
I have quite a bit of CN and CP footage shot last summer in southern Ontario as well, but I don't think anyone on this forum will be interested.
Will
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Jul 20th, 2008, 10:12pm
Via Rail Canada RDC 1 # 6135 (operating alone) arrives in Duncan, northbound on July 8, 2008 ... 9:30 am.
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Jul 20th, 2008, 10:14pm
photo # 2
 
Conductor said air conditioner on 6133 had crapped out ...
 
these photos are screen grabs from my video footage.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Aug 19th, 2008, 1:54am
Looking through old slides to-night, I found this one which I enjoyed taking. All though it is not real clear I thought some of you may find it interesting. It was taken April 1975, shows a east bound frieght at mile 24.4 on the Port Alberni sub. with 3 G.P. 9s leading. This was the site of a 39 span Frame trestle 585 feet long replaced by a line diversion in 1971. To reach his spot you turn left just before Coombs Country Candy Store at the bottom of the hump when approaching Port Alberni from the East. You follow the road up hill for a mile, when you reach the tracks you walk east for 2/10 th's of a mile.
Posted by: timberland#7 Posted on: Aug 19th, 2008, 4:42am
Kinda makes me wonder how many trestles would have been filled or diverted in the myra canyon had they had the traffic to continue running up till now.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:00am
on Aug 19th, 2008, 1:54am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Looking through old slides to-night, I found this one which I enjoyed taking. All though it is not real clear I thought some of you may find it interesting. It was taken April 1975, shows a east bound frieght at mile 24.4 on the Port Alberni sub.

 
Wow, that brought memories!  You and I were there some years later and I am sure we took photos.  I looked for the slides today until I was blue in the face to no avail.  Maybe you can find yours.  Did find this, though, from another great day.  An eastbound train at M14.6 of the Port Sub., August 10, 1984.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:11am
on Aug 21st, 2008, 1:00am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Wow, that brought memories!  You and I were there some years later and I am sure we took photos.  I looked for the slides today until I was blue in the face to no avail.  Maybe you can find yours.  Did find this, though, from another great day.  An eastbound train at M14.6 of the Port Sub., August 10, 1984.

 
Pictures like this make me wish I had been born fifteen years earlier, purely for the sake of island railroading. I was born two and a half years after that picture was taken.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:22am
on Aug 21st, 2008, 1:11am, CN7059 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Pictures like this make me wish I had been born fifteen years earlier, purely for the sake of island railroading. I was born two and a half years after that picture was taken.

 
Your wish made me chuckle!  Here I sit thinking it would be nice to knock 15 years off my life!
 
Here is the same train disappearing out of sight.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:32am
on Aug 21st, 2008, 1:11am, CN7059 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Pictures like this make me wish I had been born fifteen years earlier, purely for the sake of island railroading. I was born two and a half years after that picture was taken.

We are glad that there are younger people around that appeciate the pictures that we took when we were younger, I wish I had been able to take pictures of the coal trains that used to run pass in front of my house in Royston when I was 4-5 years old.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:51am
Those are some great pictures. Please share whatever you can for the sake of those of us who...just aren't old enough to have been there.  
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 2:01am
Here's one I took last Saturday evening, at E&N days. Everyone else had gone home, and it was just myself, the security staff, and a few other volunteers left on site, as well as the Herzog guys there to service the budds. I took it with my cell phone, of all things, having left my good camera at home. I had noticed the way in which the sun was reflecting off of 6148, which was parked on one of the old coach yard tracks, with 6133&35 in the background.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 4:17am
dang..that photo almost  looks  like it  could be  from another  era... i take  many fotos  with  cell fone just to be  'in the moment'(plus my digi camera broke)..lol   I had a  nice time  at  the  e&n days.. lucky I had  some concerts on vancouver island  around that  time  so it all worked out for me. heres  one of  my  cellfone   shots  after getting off the 6148 in langford on the  saturday.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 4:21am
fun shot with the langford sign..
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:12pm
on Aug 21st, 2008, 1:22am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Here is the same train disappearing out of sight.

 
Sidewinder, that is a GREAT shot. Thanks for posting. Always amazes me how many sweet photos are kicking around in personal collections.
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:20pm
on Aug 21st, 2008, 1:00am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Wow, that brought memories!  You and I were there some years later and I am sure we took photos.  I looked for the slides today until I was blue in the face to no avail.  Maybe you can find yours.  Did find this, though, from another great day.  An eastbound train at M14.6 of the Port Sub., August 10, 1984.

 
This is a fantastic railway picture by any standard! Thank you for posting this
 
 
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 12:36am
on Aug 21st, 2008, 1:12pm, mike_enr wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Sidewinder, that is a GREAT shot. Thanks for posting. Always amazes me how many sweet photos are kicking around in personal collections.

 
Thanks!  And, you are welcome.  Glad you are enjoying them.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 12:49am
on Aug 21st, 2008, 1:20pm, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
This is a fantastic railway picture by any standard! Thank you for posting this

 
Thanks for the feedback!  Makes posting the photos that much more worthwhile.
 
Here is another Port Alberni sub picture that made me pause when searching for a slide that came to mind after seeing tfctrains' photo.  There is a GP-30 in the consist! Never got many opportunities to photograph it.  The idea was to get Mr. Arrowsmith in the background.  Didn't happen!
 
Westbound, Summit Lake, M21.8, January 1, 1991.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 1:45am
Very nice picture. Looks like there's a layer of ice on the lake...
 
I wish I had got around to railfanning the Port Sub. Unfortunately, I had only had my license and a car for a couple years before the mill switched to truck.
Posted by: cn7066 Posted on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 6:23pm
on Aug 22nd, 2008, 1:45am, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Very nice picture. Looks like there's a layer of ice on the lake...
 
I wish I had got around to railfanning the Port Sub. Unfortunately, I had only had my license and a car for a couple years before the mill switched to truck.

 
Ya never know, there might one day be trains in and out of Port Alberni again.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2008, 2:16am
on Aug 21st, 2008, 1:51am, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Please share whatever you can for the sake of those of us who...just aren't old enough to have been there.  

 
I clicked the shutter tree times as that train passed.  Thought the first and last in the sequence would be enough, but your comment prompted me to post all three.  Here is the second.  Tfctrains hollered at the crew in the cupola.  Startled them somewhat!
 
Gosh.... still think a train needs a caboose.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2008, 2:44am
Wow... old fashioned marker lamps on that caboose!  Kinda quiet around here so here is a pic taken on June 27th.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Oct 17th, 2008, 5:07am
http://www.busdrawings.com/rail/via/index.htm
 
Found a site with some RDC pics........
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Oct 22nd, 2008, 11:34pm
Here is a set of photos I took in August 1993 of the northbound Victoria turn. The first shot is taken behind the warehouses on Devonshire Rd. To the right of the mainline is the old Kelly Douglas spur that has not been removed yet.
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Oct 22nd, 2008, 11:38pm
same location. GP38-2 3011 and 3 propane tankers.
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Oct 22nd, 2008, 11:43pm
a going away shot taken from the old rail loading dock.
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Oct 22nd, 2008, 11:56pm
The next photos are of them pulling an empty out of the EH Pope bakery that was in the Jacklin Rd warehouse. I remember there was an usual amount of low lying fog and it turned out for some surreal pics.
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Oct 23rd, 2008, 12:14am
ascending the long spur.
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Oct 23rd, 2008, 12:18am
almost back up to the mainline..
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Oct 23rd, 2008, 12:23am
up to the switch
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Oct 23rd, 2008, 12:39am
coupled up and ready to roll back to Nanaimo. It's hard to believe there was still a Victoria turn twice a week during this time.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Oct 23rd, 2008, 1:03am
About time these pictures get to see the light of day! Glad you got the scanner figured out
Posted by: mike_enr Posted on: Oct 23rd, 2008, 1:19pm
Pretty amazing posts you've been making on this and the BC board, Demian. Thanks!
Posted by: torch Posted on: Oct 23rd, 2008, 5:33pm
its  great  stuff.. i remember  watching them  switch that warehouse  back in the early 80s when it  was a big food distributer plus grocery market. they would get up to 5 or 6 boxcars at  a time.  then it  all fizzled out and  different  occupants moved in.. I didnt  see any cars on that spur throo the mid to the end of the 80s..  then they started appearing in the early 90s  i  guess when the e.h. pope was  set up inside. I recall being surprised seeing a brown canadian pacific  40 box there.. it  mustve stayed for about a month before it was picked up.  
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Oct 24th, 2008, 1:16am
The EH Pope spur is still intact from the switch down to the edge of the parking lot. You can see I think six loading doors along the edge of the building. It looked like the doors were about 2 car lengths apart, possibly allowing 12 boxcars to be beside the building with 6 being loaded/unloaded simultaneously. Then just move the cut of cars one car length and the other six would be lined up with the doors...
 
I wonder if that was how things worked when the traffic down to that building peaked.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Oct 24th, 2008, 2:42am
being a resident in langford  around tht time  I cant  say I ever saw more than six  cars at a time on that spur.
Posted by: cn7066 Posted on: Oct 24th, 2008, 2:21pm
on Oct 24th, 2008, 1:16am, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The EH Pope spur is still intact from the switch down to the edge of the parking lot. You can see I think six loading doors along the edge of the building. It looked like the doors were about 2 car lengths apart, possibly allowing 12 boxcars to be beside the building with 6 being loaded/unloaded simultaneously.  
 
I wonder if that was how things worked when the traffic down to that building peaked.

 
Doubt it, the crew would be there forever picking out the empties. I would think they'd spot 6 cars to the warehouse doors.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Oct 31st, 2008, 11:18pm
Mud Bay siding showing a meet between the Northbound passenger train and the weed steamer. The Mud bay siding has been removed but the weeds are still a problem
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Oct 31st, 2008, 11:27pm
It was a busy day at Mud Bay, the  frieght was actually first then The Passenger train, as I remember the weed steamer spent a lot of time waiting at Mud Bay.
Posted by: Cody Posted on: Jan 15th, 2009, 2:49pm
The dayliner passes through Langford in late December 2008
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: Feb 7th, 2009, 6:40pm
on Feb 6th, 2009, 9:59pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Looks like that grey hopper is fouling the switch..  

 
Quick! It must be a run-away..............
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Feb 11th, 2009, 8:15pm
Those who like to keep a watch on Wellcox should enjoy this short video showing CP Rail switching the barge slip.  Who would have guessed at the time that 1991 was to be the good old days?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e_7D_TeiR4
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Feb 11th, 2009, 8:46pm
That was a great video. I love the sound those geeps make when they throttle up/down.
 
 
Look at all those propane tankers!
 
I guess CP was serving the propane places in Nanaimo, Cassidy?, and ICG and Superior in Victoria, along with others I don't know of.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 11th, 2009, 9:22pm
on Feb 11th, 2009, 8:46pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I guess CP was serving the propane places in Nanaimo, Cassidy?, and ICG and Superior in Victoria, along with others I don't know of.

 
ICG in Port Alberni and Courtney, Cassidy had 2 different propane customers. During the winter, there was a ton of propane cars on the island at any given time!
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Feb 12th, 2009, 12:10am
Then again, some things never change.  Here's 6133 at Nanaimo--in March 1982.  How long has this unit been on the Island?
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Feb 12th, 2009, 10:40am
Great video Sidewinder! This time period sure brings back memories. It's amazing how busy the team track for local freight was even in 91. That side of the yard sure has died off nowadays. I remember seeing those red CP box's at Vic Plywood all the time.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Feb 12th, 2009, 4:51pm
on Feb 12th, 2009, 12:10am, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Then again, some things never change.  Here's 6133 at Nanaimo--in March 1982.  How long has this unit been on the Island?

 
Yes, indeed, isn't that a familiar face!
 
Your question prompted a search to see if I could come up with a definite answer.  My slides show that the 6133 showed up in 1981.  Perhaps someone else can prove it was here before that.
 
Actually, the photos illustrate the transition to VIA.  If the 6133 was on the island previously it would have been CP's 9058.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Feb 12th, 2009, 5:46pm
Kind of ironic, given that 6133 was built as CP 9058, lettered for the DAR, about as far the other direction on CP's system as it could get! One extreme to the other!
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Feb 12th, 2009, 9:53pm
I seem to remember seeing 6133 on the Edmonton to Calgary run in the mid 80s. I even have a picture of it at the Edmonton Station.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 13th, 2009, 1:26am
on Feb 12th, 2009, 5:46pm, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Kind of ironic, given that 6133 was built as CP 9058, lettered for the DAR, about as far the other direction on CP's system as it could get! One extreme to the other!

While on the DAR, 6133 had a head on with a Burro crane, they had to be cut a part. The Budd Car was very badly damaged. There is a good picture of the accident in the book that the Briish Railway Modellers of North America published on the DAR.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Feb 13th, 2009, 11:44am
on Feb 12th, 2009, 9:53pm, Coastrail wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I seem to remember seeing 6133 on the Edmonton to Calgary run in the mid 80s. I even have a picture of it at the Edmonton Station.

 
Not saying it didn't fill in there on the way back from maintenance but it was a regular here.  They didn't move 'em around that much unless something serious broke.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Feb 14th, 2009, 1:10am
on Feb 12th, 2009, 10:40am, Demian wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great video Sidewinder! This time period sure brings back memories. It's amazing how busy the team track for local freight was even in 91. That side of the yard sure has died off nowadays. I remember seeing those red CP box's at Vic Plywood all the time.

 
Thanks, Demian!
 
Yes.... Wellcox is a shadow of former self these days.  In past years, a visit to Nanaimo was not complete without a look at Wellcox.  Do the same thing now when the opportunity arises, but it ain't the same.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Feb 14th, 2009, 11:10pm
On friday I stopped and took my lunch at the little park that is located next to the Welcox spur bridge over the old Island highway.  I grabbed my camera and started exploring along the tracks intent on getting some pics of the small bridge over the Chase River.  Got a few and just as I was turning to walk away I thought I kept hearing a train horn in the distance.. but it didn't sound like a typical horn that I was familiar with.  Darn.. I should have waited an extra 2 mins, because I just got back to my vehicle when #129 trundled around the curve and into view..
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Feb 14th, 2009, 11:15pm
It went out with 4 propane cars and returned about 90 mins later with 3 empty ones.  I did contemplate chasing it but figured I would miss out on some 'good' spots that I wanted to try, besides I wanted to get some pics of a train on the Welcox spur so I sat on Haliburton Rd near the Chase River bridge waiting for its return.  I had planned on taking a ladder I have with me and placing it against a tree so I could get a slightly elevated shot above the bushes and show the train curving over and onto the bridge.  D'oh! I was dozing in the warm sunshine listening to some music and didn't hear it early enough.  I had just enough time to dash down to the tracks and get this pic.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Feb 14th, 2009, 11:27pm
The pics of #129 were taken between noon and 1330.  At 1508 I was lucky enough to be driving down the highway when the southbound Dayliner was coming through.  I paced it from the north Bowen Rd crossing all the way down until the Northfield Rd crossing.  I thought I would try snapping some photos and of about 7, only this one turned out decent enough.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Feb 14th, 2009, 11:35pm
Oh and by the way, some of you may be interested in knowing that a portion of the CL&R log dump r.o.w. has been utilized as a walking trail.  It's only a short section.. you can see the remains of a wooden trestle and there's a section of rail in the drink.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Feb 15th, 2009, 1:59am
on Feb 14th, 2009, 11:35pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Oh and by the way, some of you may be interested in knowing that a portion of the CL&R log dump r.o.w. has been utilized as a walking trail.  It's only a short section.. you can see the remains of a wooden trestle and there's a section of rail in the drink.

 
Well, would you look at that! And, here I thought Lenora Mt. Sicker #1 was a shay!
 
Interesting the rails are still there.  Must go have a look and contemplate the passage of time.
 
Nice group of photos on the line into Wellcox, by the way.  Never did get a photo along that stretch during the CP days.
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Feb 17th, 2009, 1:29pm
As usual those with power and no forsight scupper another good idea.  I gather most of it is now gone.  I have been off the island for so long I didn't get a chance to explore that area when it was "in waiting".
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Feb 17th, 2009, 1:52pm
I still can't believe the VO1000 was scrapped...idiots!!!
Posted by: 12-278a Posted on: Feb 18th, 2009, 3:31pm
Yesterday I went down to Wellcox to see if any thing was new in the zoo and I saw these artisticaly painted cars




Posted by: 12-278a Posted on: Feb 18th, 2009, 3:34pm
While I was there I could hear horns in the distance and it was not the Dayliner. I ended up getting this
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98dkNInp1M0
 
 
Sidewinder has his past here is today
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Feb 18th, 2009, 5:50pm
Nice video
 
This is the second shot within the past few days I seen of 129 operating by itself. Anyone know if there is anything wrong with the other loco, or if they are just trying to economize on fuel by running just one of the twins?
Posted by: 12-278a Posted on: Feb 18th, 2009, 8:28pm
While 129 was operating the other unit was ideling.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Feb 18th, 2009, 10:46pm
Interesting to see that the 2 units were parked "nose to tail"....
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Feb 19th, 2009, 4:12am
I remember a discussion on the yahoogroup about the Baldiwn a while back(years). The time it spent at the Pulp Mill in Campbell River was not kind. The engine needed a lot of work and the frame was badly corroded. The 8427 was in much better shape.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Feb 19th, 2009, 3:52pm
Funnily enough, if one does some looking, I think there just might be more operable Baldwins around today than RS-3s...mostly due to the US military units that have been kept around, and not accumulated mileage. Operating 244's however, only a handful. I'm so tempted to go to the D-L just to witness 3 RS-3s working hard together!
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 19th, 2009, 7:51pm
For the first time since early 1993, I decided to try and chase the Duncan Turn today. It showed up just before 11:00, while I got to Duncan at about 10:00, not knowing exactly when it would get there. I followed the train all the way to Nanaimo and then I lost it: it had picked up a few propane cars at Stockett and headed up to Superior. By the time I caught up to it, the crew had parked and gone into a restaurant for lunch. I hung around for about an hour, but it was 2:00 and I had to head for home.  
 
It was a fun day, some of the roads that I used in the past have been blocked off so I had to use a slightly different route get to the photo locations I had in mind. I'll post a couple photos here and then link to the rest on my Flickr page.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 19th, 2009, 7:54pm
http://flickr.com/photos/7307607@N06/sets/72157614083051147/
 
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: Feb 19th, 2009, 9:28pm
Heard that the Unit blew a hose and was down for the count where you thought they were having lunch.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 19th, 2009, 9:47pm
on Feb 19th, 2009, 9:28pm, 95XXX wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Heard that the Unit blew a hose and was down for the count where you thought they were having lunch.

 
Ah, that makes more sense than my lunch theory! I guess the running one unit experiment is over
Posted by: Demian Posted on: Feb 20th, 2009, 12:20am
Awesome pics Chris! That unit sure looks great running long hood forward.
The first pic is my favourite.
Posted by: timberland#7 Posted on: Feb 20th, 2009, 3:38am
I have explained before why the vo 1000 was saddly scrapped. Squamish said they wanted it but never took it other groups were asked but were not that interested because of the monumental task of moving it . the problem was the track from the shop to the north yard was removed and wasnt told that the tracks were going to be removed trapping it from a rail conection. had that not happend we would have dragged it back to the shop were the rest sit today.Ilooked into using house movers who I had worked for in the past to move it but still very expensive for my wages and to busy with self employment to move it. believe me it is my favorite locomotive and hated to hear it was beeing scrapped. also regret not cutting the front end off at least and making a model train display cabinet, but like Isaid I was working 18 hours a day so no time to even do that.It wasnt in as bad of shape as mentioned here but it would have been a big job mostly the engine needed rebuilding.There were several crates of new and used parts that did come with the loci and I had the injectors and pumps rebuilt also had a couple of buddies who had worked on baldwin lima hamilton engines willing to do the work on the engine.As for the semaphores they still exsist and probably be rebuilt for the town of ladysmirth. send me a message if you want more info.
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Feb 21st, 2009, 2:55am
My Youtube video of the Dayliner, coming back into town, this afternoon.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnA9SVAv9mA
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Feb 21st, 2009, 3:09am
Hey... we're back up to two cars
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Feb 26th, 2009, 3:10pm
VIA #6148 heading north at max track speed in Nanoose Bay today.
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: Feb 28th, 2009, 5:39pm
Rail breakers are here.
Posted by: 95XXX Posted on: Feb 28th, 2009, 5:41pm
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Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Feb 28th, 2009, 5:50pm
offloading at Wellcox or are they going somewhere else?
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 2:08am
Here is a short video from the days of the Duncan Turn.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJJIYxCEHgc
 
The photo does not show the same train but it is certainly similar.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 3:17am
Sweet video and picture Sidewinder! Oh how I miss those days  
I wish I had a camcorder or something to capture video of my trainchasing back in the CP days, but I had to settle for a cheap camera instead! I still have my memories though......
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 7:22am
on Mar 3rd, 2009, 2:08am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here is a short video from the days of the Duncan Turn.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJJIYxCEHgc
 
The photo does not show the same train but it is certainly similar.

 
 
I can't get the link to youtube to work ...  aaarrrggghhhh
Will
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 7:37pm
CLC is right but then I always found the actual running crews on the island to be a class act when ever I had to deal with them.  Thanks for the great post.
Posted by: timberland#7 Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 10:18pm
nice video sidewinder. hey if you can tell me were that speeder shed on the north side of the diamond come from I will buy you a hotdog at the train show.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 4th, 2009, 1:08am
Thanks for the comments, gang.
 
vicguy -  I had the camera, but sure missed a lot.  Didn't realized during those years that time was of the essence.
 
thehighwayman - Perhaps it is time for an iMac?
 
CLC Fan - That CN bridge over the highway.... still can't help but look for it to this day.
 
Piglet - You welcome!
 
timberland#7 - You're on!  Went looking through my picture collection to no avail.  Got tfctrains working on it.  So far, I fear, there will be no hot dog.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 4th, 2009, 7:47pm
Thanks for posting that video...please don't hesitate if you have more to share.  
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 5th, 2009, 2:58am
on Mar 4th, 2009, 7:47pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks for posting that video...please don't hesitate if you have more to share.  

 
There is certainly more that can be posted over time.   Your request prompted me to put this together.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcELcYOJkA
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Mar 5th, 2009, 7:33am
on Mar 4th, 2009, 1:08am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks for the comments, gang.
 
thehighwayman - Perhaps it is time for an iMac?
 

 
I drool too much when I go into a Mac store ... Imac isn't enough for me though - I want a full-blown Mac!
 
I did eventually get to see the video though - great stuff!!
But for me, the only diesels that really represent the Island are Baldwins or GMD-1s.
w
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 5th, 2009, 9:09am
Thats  great  stuff,Sidewinder. Thank you for  posting! made my day. Loved the courtenay turn vid in particular.  Pretty good sized  train for a courtenay turn in 1990 too.   I guess all they did right there  was  rearrange the pole cars for proper loading order and then next they wouldve switched the propane dealer and afterward the poleyard. Im a bit confused about the boxcars. Maybe at  this time boxcars were  still being set  out at  mudbay?  Im  asume  that the  frieghthouse at the end of the courtenay trackage probably didnt  recieve boxcars any longer at the time this video was  taken.  Hope to see more!
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 5th, 2009, 7:24pm
I caught the Duncan Turn today, I was hoping the transformers were coming down, but they weren't in the consist. First pic is at the Somenos siding where they will probably be unloaded. They were spreading gravel all along the siding right up to the rail, prepping for unloading of the very heavy transformers I guess.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 5th, 2009, 7:27pm
Travelling through the wetlands of Westholme....
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 5th, 2009, 7:31pm
I followed the train up to Nanaimo where it went back to Wellcox and swapped grain cars for propane cars. This pic is right behind Richardson Foods and the old GP9 sounded awesome as it was chugging up the grade there!
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 5th, 2009, 7:39pm
This last one is inspired by Sidewinder! A lot has changed since 1984...
 
The rest of todays pics are here: http://flickr.com/photos/7307607@N06/sets/72157614849491870/
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 6th, 2009, 12:07am
on Mar 5th, 2009, 9:09am, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thats  great  stuff,Sidewinder. Thank you for  posting! made my day. Loved the courtenay turn vid in particular.  Pretty good sized  train for a courtenay turn in 1990 too.   I guess all they did right there  was  rearrange the pole cars for proper loading order and then next they wouldve switched the propane dealer and afterward the poleyard. Im a bit confused about the boxcars. Maybe at  this time boxcars were  still being set  out at  mudbay?  Im  asume  that the  frieghthouse at the end of the courtenay trackage probably didnt  recieve boxcars any longer at the time this video was  taken.  Hope to see more!

The box cars could have been idlers or one or two them could have been carrying a substance that was used for blasting, those cars were left at Buckley Bay and sometimes at Dunsmuir. The freighthouse did not recieve any cars after C.P. Transport went out of business. The gondolas may have been used for short poles.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 6th, 2009, 12:13am
Great videos Sidewinder! I too was a little young to appreciate the E&N back in the 1980s and I never got the camera that was on Santa's list almost every year. Well these vids are the next best thing to a time machine and I look forward to seeing more. My wife thinks I am nuts as I am checking the site every couple of hours just to make sure I haven't missed one of your vid posts. My two year old son and I spent a good portion of the evening watching some of your other videos, he's already given up on the Thomas stuff and graduated to E&N fanning with dad much to my wife's dismay. Thanks again.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 7th, 2009, 12:29pm
on Mar 6th, 2009, 12:13am, ENR3005 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great videos Sidewinder! I too was a little young to appreciate the E&N back in the 1980s and I never got the camera that was on Santa's list almost every year. Well these vids are the next best thing to a time machine and I look forward to seeing more. My wife thinks I am nuts as I am checking the site every couple of hours just to make sure I haven't missed one of your vid posts. My two year old son and I spent a good portion of the evening watching some of your other videos, he's already given up on the Thomas stuff and graduated to E&N fanning with dad much to my wife's dismay. Thanks again.

 
Gee, ENR3005, replies like that are encouraging!  Same to you Torch.  Thanks for the comments.  There are more sequences I can put together and will do so but you can stand down for now. I will be taking a bit of a break.
 
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 8th, 2009, 6:05pm
OK, time for a bit more nostalgia (we can never get enough nostalgia on this board, can we?).  We're setting the Wayback Machine to June 2, 1983 for these shots.  First, we see VIA 6134 peeking out from behind an insulated boxcar at Victoria, as passengers get off train 198.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 8th, 2009, 6:13pm
Then the Budds (6134/6125) head to the barn so the wayfreight can get out of town.  That's GP9 8684 waiting with one empty tankcar and a caboose.  Get a load of the uniformed conductor at the switch--I can also see four other employees in this scene.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 8th, 2009, 6:28pm
Next in the sequence.  You can see some of the old log flats in the coach sidings.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 8th, 2009, 6:32pm
And here comes the wayfreight, white flags and all (although I think at this point everyone was still calling it "train 51").
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 8th, 2009, 6:38pm
Three days later, 6134 and 6125 brought train 198 through Langford.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 8th, 2009, 6:45pm
An hour or so later, GP9 8663, running long hood forward, headed north with the freight.  Looks like the Victoria switcher had just been changed.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 8th, 2009, 11:17pm
on Mar 5th, 2009, 7:33am, thehighwayman wrote:       (Click here for original message)

But for me, the only diesels that really represent the Island are Baldwins or GMD-1s.
w

Well, W, couldn't agree with you more!  I know a couple of fans that would call those engines "vintage" from a "bygone era".  What does that say for your and me?
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 8th, 2009, 11:23pm
on Mar 8th, 2009, 6:28pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Next in the sequence.  You can see some of the old log flats in the coach sidings.

Nice!  Seeing those log cars, brings back a flood of memories.  Of course, the same can be said for all the subjects in those recent posts. The photo in reply 1142 is my favorite.
Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 9th, 2009, 12:43am
Great  stuff, dayliner!   Man ,I used to love the  wayfrieght.. not just the normal northbound train but I recall a way frieght heading out in morning and doing set outs and pickups all the  way to langford and back. I recall them havning a caboose on it and sometimes not. Later in the mid 80s I would see them do the run to langford and back in the late afternoon. I always saw it operate with a switcher and not a geep. There was plenty work to be done between esquimalt and langford back in those days! A 'stripped down' version of vic's  wayfrieght happened even as  late as the erly 90s when the yard switcher would head off to store street,the cn interchange and sometimes north to the warehouses in vic west. On one occasion i recall seeing the normal northbound frieght in 1991 leaving the yard with its train but pushing a railbox boxcar IN FRONT of the locomotive to be dropped off at standard furniture,i believe. Odd sight.
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Mar 9th, 2009, 7:41am
on Mar 8th, 2009, 11:17pm, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Well, W, couldn't agree with you more!  I know a couple of fans that would call those engines "vintage" from a "bygone era".  What does that say for your and me?

 
Well, now that I am a great-grandfather, there are some who say I am older than dirt!
{g}
But there is something about those old 1,000 hp Baldwins that just seems to grab you. I guess it is because they were the only diesels I saw for so many years. Now that they are long gone, they represent the pleasant times of my youth so I remember them with fondness.
It seems that many of the others here remember the arrival of the Geeps with the same sort of fondness.
My one regret is that I wasn't around to see the GP-30s. I know there were problems with them, but they have long been a favourite with me because of their unique roofline.
Will
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 9th, 2009, 9:33pm
on Mar 8th, 2009, 6:05pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
OK, time for a bit more nostalgia (we can never get enough nostalgia on this board, can we?)

 
I know I can't get enough! Great pictures Dayliner! Interesting to see the apartment building on Sitkum being built, I always wondered when it was constructed.  
 
For me, on the island CN meant GMD-1s, and E&N was GP38ACs because that is what I photographed the most.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 12:11am
on Mar 9th, 2009, 7:41am, thehighwayman wrote:       (Click here for original message)

My one regret is that I wasn't around to see the GP-30s. I know there were problems with them, but they have long been a favourite with me because of their unique roofline.
Will

Yes, the GP-30s were on the island for a while.  If you have a soft spot for them, you will have to stay tuned.  Forum readers seemed to enjoy the videos "Duncan Turn" and "Courtenay Turn".  One coming up will be called "Port Turn" which will include clips showing the GP-30s doing their thing.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 1:09am
Sidewinder, torch, vicguy--glad you're enjoying the pictures.  It's good to be able to share after sitting on them for a quarter of a century.
 
Moka, back in those days I never really knew about the "Langford switcher".  I remember once the girlfriend "du jour" told me she had seen a freight train heading into town in the middle of the day, but I knew that the wayfreight came in at night and wondered what she was talking about.  Hmm, maybe that's why that relationship didn't work out . . . .  I do remember occasionally seeing the wayfreight stopped in Langford around dinner time while crew went for beans.  
 
Anyway, here are a few more before I call it a night . . . .  Anyone remember the old freight house in Nanaimo?  I believe it was the original from 1886.  This is from July 1983.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 1:12am
Shawnigan Lake, August 1983.  Everybody stops to watch the train go by.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 1:16am
The classic Niagara Canyon shot.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 1:21am
Then I tried getting a little artsy.  Here's the wayfreight seen from the former CN right-of-way in Colwood.  August 25, 1983.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 4:45am
yup.. I remember one of the main functions of  the "langford way-frieght" from vic  was to switch the moulding mill in langford , the  langford team track siding and occasionally icg propane. When the cormark warehouse building was errected  they would serve that too  although usually It was the regular northbound frieght which I saw  serve that warehouse.. I  NEVER was able to figure out who ordered loads and of what for the siding in langford. In the  early days it was often a burlington northern boxcar spotted there.  In the later times  aqs in the late 80s and  early 90s it was often a qc boxcar or other.  Anybody out there  have any idea of who recieved loads from the langford siding/team track  Over the years I saw other cars there  such as  gondolas  and  nowadays dust controll carrying tankers or a transformer.
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 7:23am
on Mar 10th, 2009, 12:11am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Yes, the GP-30s were on the island for a while.  If you have a soft spot for them, you will have to stay tuned.  Forum readers seemed to enjoy the videos "Duncan Turn" and "Courtenay Turn".  One coming up will be called "Port Turn" which will include clips showing the GP-30s doing their thing.

 
Woo hoo!  Many thanks in advance!
Will
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 11:27am
Wow these pics are excellent. I look forward to seeing more!
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 12:34pm
Dayliner I do remember climbing on box cars on the siding at the Nanaimo freightshed when I was a kid (early 1960's) and up visiting Grandparents up by the "new" firehall.  More then once I got in trouble for disappearing down hill following the call of the horns on a passing train.  My dad told me that the kids used to (1920's) use the right of way as a quick way to school but if a passing train went by the crews sometimes would open the drain cocks on the cylinders and let the kids get covered in exhausted steam.  Not hot enough to hurt them but they got wet and had to show up at home that way or at school and had to explain how that happened, solved the trespassing trouble in one pass.
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 2:02pm
Gentlemen
 
We truly need to push for a museum of rail history in Victoria. With all these great photos, info, etc. It would be a shame not to have a facility to share with the public.
 
Obviously a working museum wont happen at the roundhouse, but perhaps a museum that has photos, models, small artifacts, stories, video, etc. of the 4 railways that served Victoria (V&S, CNR, E&N and BCER).
 
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 10th, 2009, 5:56pm
on Mar 10th, 2009, 2:02pm, Coastrail wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Gentlemen
 
We truly need to push for a museum of rail history in Victoria. With all these great photos, info, etc. It would be a shame not to have a facility to share with the public.

Obviously a working museum wont happen at the roundhouse, but perhaps a museum that has photos, models, small artifacts, stories, video, etc. of the 4 railways that served Victoria (V&S, CNR, E&N and BCER).
 
Great Idea, this idea has been talked about before. I believe it was around the time that Dave Wilkie passed away. There are several people that are getting on in age and would like a place for there collection  to be display and stored for future generations to see. As I said great idea.
 
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Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Mar 13th, 2009, 1:46pm
Northbound over Green Lake trestle, March 10th.
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Mar 14th, 2009, 3:06am
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but I'm heading to the island on Monday for a weeks vacation. I'm going to ride the budd car on Tuesday and was wanting to spend the rest of the vacation (Wed to Sat) taking as many pictures as I can of the E&N as I've never riden it, or seen it really... Could anyone help me with giving ideas for good locations for pictures and times if at all possible! Thank you very much for your help! If anyone would like to get together while I'm over there I'll be in Victoria for Mon-Wed and then Thur-Sat in Nanaimo. Thanks again.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 15th, 2009, 1:53am
Happened to be traveling north at train time March 11.  Seemed like a good opportunity to watch the Budds arrive at Qualicum at 10:50 AM.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 15th, 2009, 2:47pm
on Mar 15th, 2009, 3:49am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Nice pic, Sidewinder.  Very sharp and good lighting.

 
Thanks.
 
Re the sharpness, a fellow who has a thing about C-liners told me about a trick in Photoshop using "sharpen".  Since then, tinkering with that option revealed that "unsharp mask" can more controllable.  As for the lighting, mother nature was certainly cooperative with a timely cloud.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 16th, 2009, 9:22pm
Minionll, thehighwayman, torch, ENR3005.... you all suggested you would like to see more video showing the E&N of the past.  Here is one called "Port Alberni Turn".  GP30 fans should be interested.  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz0f4sCPso0  
 
The first scene is uncut to illustrate the size of the train.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 16th, 2009, 9:42pm
Great stuff again, Sidewinder! My favorite part of the video is the train crawling over the top of the grade, sounds and looks awesome! You even got the mill switcher in there, too! I started chasing trains on the E&N in 92 so unfortunately I missed out on the GP30s, nice to see one of them in action on your video
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 16th, 2009, 11:54pm
on Mar 16th, 2009, 9:22pm, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Minionll, thehighwayman, torch, ENR3005.... you all suggested you would like to see more video showing the E&N of the past.  Here is one called "Port Alberni Turn".  GP30 fans should be interested.  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz0f4sCPso0  
 
The first scene is uncut to illustrate the size of the train.

 
Sidewinder, thanks again for the great footage. You just made my day! Your video has answered some of my questions that I had for a couple years and given everyone a glimpse of the last best years for the Port Sub. One of my questions which was answered by your video was if CP's GP30s still ran with their turbochargers installed, which your video has confirmed they did. I am curious as to where the bulkhead flat what have been loaded which is in the last clip of your video. Was there a spur for loading lumber or was it just loaded on one of the yard tracks. My other theory is that there was still a spur in place by Al Ply for the other sawmill which brings me to my next questions.  The mill switcher clip was a nice bonus, do you know if this unit did the switching duties at the plywood mill also or if CP sent the power down the harbour line to do the switching. Thanks again for the great video.  
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 17th, 2009, 12:51am
on Mar 16th, 2009, 11:54pm, ENR3005 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Sidewinder, thanks again for the great footage. You just made my day! Your video has answered some of my questions that I had for a couple years and given everyone a glimpse of the last best years for the Port Sub. One of my questions which was answered by your video was if CP's GP30s still ran with their turbochargers installed, which your video has confirmed they did. I am curious as to where the bulkhead flat what have been loaded which is in the last clip of your video. Was there a spur for loading lumber or was it just loaded on one of the yard tracks. My other theory is that there was still a spur in place by Al Ply for the other sawmill which brings me to my next questions.  The mill switcher clip was a nice bonus, do you know if this unit did the switching duties at the plywood mill also or if CP sent the power down the harbour line to do the switching. Thanks again for the great video.  

I think the Bulkhead was loaded right at the end trak, south of the station. My son and I were lucky enough to switch the mill when we made a trip on a frieght into Port Alberni from Parksville. Yes, sidewinder great job, oh how I like living in the past.
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Mar 17th, 2009, 7:26am
on Mar 16th, 2009, 9:22pm, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Minionll, thehighwayman, torch, ENR3005.... you all suggested you would like to see more video showing the E&N of the past.  Here is one called "Port Alberni Turn".  GP30 fans should be interested.  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz0f4sCPso0  
 
The first scene is uncut to illustrate the size of the train.

 
You have again proven that you are a gentleman and a scholar!
Fabulous footage!
Thank you a thousand --- no, a million -- times!!
 
Will
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 17th, 2009, 6:21pm
Thanks very much for posting that great video.
 
I'll have to watch it again on my other computer to get the full effect with the sound...crappy laptop speakers...
 
I do wish I could have railfanned the Port Sub...
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Mar 17th, 2009, 10:15pm
Always glad to see the "vitage" vids & pics.  Back in the day I was luck enough to do most of my railfanning from the cab or the van, but don't have that much in the way of my own pics from back in the day.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 12:25am
on Mar 16th, 2009, 9:42pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great stuff again, Sidewinder! My favorite part of the video is the train crawling over the top of the grade, sounds and looks awesome! You even got the mill switcher in there, too! I started chasing trains on the E&N in 92 so unfortunately I missed out on the GP30s, nice to see one of them in action on your video  

Thanks for the comment, vicguy.  Yes, the clip showing the train pulling hard for the summit says it all.  Seems like we used to get more acknowledging whistles from the enginemen in those days which adds a nice touch to the videos.
 
Thanks, also, to ENR3005, tfctrains, thehighwayman, Minionll and CP8673.  Your comments provide encouragment to keep up the process.  I plan to do "Port Alberni Turn II" some time soon.
 
ENR3005, I had an idea tfctrains would answer your question about the loaded bulkhead.  I was always bent on taking pictures of trains in their element.  Never really payed attention what was loaded where.  In retrospect, it is obvious we should have paid more attention.  Would that wrapped load contain plywood or dimensional lumber?  Strange, I don't remember the CP units heading down to the plywood mill that day so it is a mystery how the bulkhead flat ended up in the outbound consist.  Seems to me towards the end the mill switcher was allowed access to the CP yard.  Can't say for sure if that was the case in 1990.
 
ENR3005, I just gotta ask.  Talked to a few friends about determining if a GM unit is turbocharged by watching track-side.  Drew a blank.  So what is in the video that proved to you the GP-30 was still turbocharged at the time?
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 1:35am
Sidewinder, that was a great video! Makes me wish as well that I was 15 or more years older so I could have seen those myself! Just wondering, what ever happened to that little switcher?
 
Well, I had my first ever trip on the E&N and I have to say I LOVE this line now!!! 10 1/2 hours with only 10 minutes to walk around the Courtenay Station was a little much but well worth it! On the way up from Victoria was in 6135 and the way back I was in 6148. I was surprised at how many small places the train stopped at! All together, the train made stops at Palmer, Langford, Cowichan, Duncan, Chemanius, Ladysmith, Nanaimo (of course), Parksville, Qualicum Beach, Dunsmuir, Deep Bay, Buckley Bay and of course Courtenay. When I talked to the conductor he said he hasn't seen the train stop that many times in years. Of course it put us 30 minutes behind time but oh well. Here are some pictures I took while we were stopped in Courtenay and Victoria. Hope you enjoy. I look forward to taking more pictures of these Budd cars and hopefully the 2 twins.
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 1:48am
6148 again in Courtenay.
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 1:49am
6135 at the back now.
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 1:51am
After dropping us off in Victoria. 6148 and 6135 reverse back over the Johnson Street Bridge.
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 1:53am
6148 going away. Just wondering, is 6133 on the island right now or is somewhere else at the moment?
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 2:44am
on Mar 18th, 2009, 1:53am, Balto wrote:       (Click here for original message)
6148 going away. Just wondering, is 6133 on the island right now or is somewhere else at the moment?

 
6133 is on the island, most likely in the car shop building. You can see into the round house through the windows facing Esquimalt Rd., and you can see into the car shop through the gap in the doors. Not that I would condone trespassing or anything...
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 3:08am
on Mar 18th, 2009, 12:25am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

....
 
ENR3005, I just gotta ask.  Talked to a few friends about determining if a GM unit is turbocharged by watching track-side.  Drew a blank.  So what is in the video that proved to you the GP-30 was still turbocharged at the time?

 
Turbo charges have a distinct high-pitched whine. I thought I heard a bit of turbo whine while I watched the video and listened with a set of crappy headphones.  
 
I'm not sure if this applies to the GP30s, but in most older diesels, the turbo is sized for maximum power output, which means it doesn't do much at lower engine rpm and load. You hear the whine most when the engine is working hard. On two-stroke diesels, there are usually blowers to clear the cylinders at low load/rpm/throttle notch and the turbo(s) don't start creating boost until higher load/rpm/throttle notch.
 
Thanks again for the videos, I look forward to Port Turn II...
 
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 4:10am
Glad you got to take the Dayliner, Balto.  Fun little ride, isn't it?
 
Guys, do we vote him in as our newest Railfan.net E&N Club Member now that he has ridden the Bud's on the Rock?  
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 7:24am
on Mar 18th, 2009, 4:10am, CPRail4744 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Glad you got to take the Dayliner, Balto.  Fun little ride, isn't it?
 
Guys, do we vote him in as our newest Railfan.net E&N Club Member now that he has ridden the Bud's on the Rock?  

 
Yup!
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Mar 18th, 2009, 11:33pm
on Mar 18th, 2009, 12:25am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Thanks for the comment, vicguy.  Yes, the clip showing the train pulling hard for the summit says it all.  Seems like we used to get more acknowledging whistles from the enginemen in those days which adds a nice touch to the videos.
 
Thanks, also, to ENR3005, tfctrains, thehighwayman, Minionll and CP8673.  Your comments provide encouragment to keep up the process.  I plan to do "Port Alberni Turn II" some time soon.
 
ENR3005, I had an idea tfctrains would answer your question about the loaded bulkhead.  I was always bent on taking pictures of trains in their element.  Never really payed attention what was loaded where.  In retrospect, it is obvious we should have paid more attention.  Would that wrapped load contain plywood or dimensional lumber?  Strange, I don't remember the CP units heading down to the plywood mill that day so it is a mystery how the bulkhead flat ended up in the outbound consist.  Seems to me towards the end the mill switcher was allowed access to the CP yard.  Can't say for sure if that was the case in 1990.
 
ENR3005, I just gotta ask.  Talked to a few friends about determining if a GM unit is turbocharged by watching track-side.  Drew a blank.  So what is in the video that proved to you the GP-30 was still turbocharged at the time?

 
 
Sidewinder,
 
The loaded lumber is indeed a bit of a mystery. There were two online lumber mills at the time, one by the main yard and the other by the plywood mill.  According to engineering maps I have from the late 60s, there were three spurs to the mill by the Plywood mill and one to the large mill by the main yard. The spur for the mill by the yard would have diverged right where you see the MacBlo switcher in your video, switching the warehouse spur. A photo that was posted on this forum sometime ago caught my interest and led me to wonder if there was a third option. Could there be a reload spur over by the wye which came of the engine house lead. In the posted photo, an MLW S3 is sitting on the ICG spur by the engine house in front of a switchback switch which would have branched off towards the wye. From photos I have of the adjacent area to the engine house, there would have been a large amount of stacked of lumber but I have no photos of a spur to this area. When I first photographed the area in 1998 all traces of a spur were gone. This spur was not documented on the engineering maps I have so perhaps it was a later short term customer. Perhaps someone might be able to provide some insight.  
 
A trained ear and some good quality computer hardware are necessary to catch the turbo sounds of the GP30 in your video. The sound of a Roots blower and turbocharger are vastly different. A Roots Blower creates a whining sound and a turbocharger sounds like the exhaust of a jet aircraft in some ways. If you go to 3:05 in your movie and watch the consist roll by, you will hear the turbocharger of the GP30 at about 3:23 as the consist throttles down. You can also hear the turbocharger on the GP30 at 7:28 as the consist rolls by the siding at Cameron Lake. I am using a SoundBlaster X-FI on my system which is a higher end sound card along with a high quality set of earphones. If you are listening with speakers it is harder to hear the turbocharger. I actually have a bet with a retired CP engineer who does some consulting for me who worked on the same units many years ago but swore he thought they were non-turbo after CP did some upgrade work to them. Looks like I am goanna win that bet although I have to admit I have lost a few others. Thanks again for the great video and I look forward to the next one.  
 
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 12:16am
on Mar 18th, 2009, 1:35am, Balto wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Sidewinder, that was a great video! Makes me wish as well that I was 15 or more years older so I could have seen those myself! Just wondering, what ever happened to that little switcher?

 
Thanks, Balto.  But, for my sake, don't wish your life away!
 
Within weeks of CP announcing the end of the Port Alberni sub,  the mill switcher was taken out before it became isolated.  A CP train pulled the switcher out of Alberni.  It may have been in the last consisit over the sub.  The switcher is now in Powell River.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 12:28am
Hey Balto, looks like you had some decent weather for your trip.  Here's a vid of your train just leaving Nanaimo station.  I think I saw ya in the window..
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXVKmMWF8SA
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 12:45am
on Mar 18th, 2009, 11:33pm, ENR3005 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
1. In the posted photo, an MLW S3 is sitting on the ICG spur by the engine house in front of a switchback switch which would have branched off towards the wye. From photos I have of the adjacent area to the engine house, there would have been a large amount of stacked of lumber but I have no photos of a spur to this area. When I first photographed the area in 1998 all traces of a spur were gone. This spur was not documented on the engineering maps I have so perhaps it was a later short term customer. Perhaps someone might be able to provide some insight.  
 
2. A trained ear and some good quality computer hardware are necessary to catch the turbo sounds of the GP30 in your video.
 
3.Thanks again for the great video and I look forward to the next one.

 
1. The photo is in one of my posts.  It was taken during a field trip with tfctrains.  Must look at other photos from that day to see if there is something that will help.
 
2. Ah... a trained ear!  No wonder the process of identifying a turbocharger escapes me.  Anything over 3000 Hz does not exist in my world.  Minionll mentions a high-pitched whine. That leaves me out.  By the way, thanks, Minionll, for your input.  Glad I asked!
 
3.  Your welcome.  Am working on "Port Alberni Turn II".  In the process of trying to whittle it down to a manageable size for Youtube, it seems there is enough for "Port Alberni Turn III".
Posted by: cn2141 Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 1:54am
Well I just tried to post a reply with a nice picture and presto my whole message just dissapeared while trying to resize the photo. This is not the first time trying to post something on this site has pissed me off. Why do I even bother. I think maybe the powers to be should relook at this photo posting thing and perhaps simplify it a little.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 2:12pm
Trust me, the CP GP30s, or GP35s for that matter were never de-turboed, The issues with these units were electrical, mostly due to the complexity required to get the 2250 or 2500HP out of the technology of the day. The GP35 was worse, and did also have to do with the 567 engine and the main generator being at, or near it's limit. This is why a large number of these units were rebuilt fairly early on by other users..obviously they were successful, particularly on Santa Fe, as they are practically all still in service with BNSF today. CP derated the GP35s to 2250, but they were apparently always a headache(this also explains why they went on a C424 buying spree, the GE electricals used by Alco/MLW were much tougher) From what I have researched(but can't confirm), it is mentioned that they did all(30s & 35s) receive 645 power assemblies at some point, presumably when they were cycled through the early-mid 80's program that reclassed them from DRF to DRS. I've climbed all over 5000 in Edmonton, and  I shot video of 5001 on a freight in Saskatchewan in about 1994, and it clearly has a turbo. When a unit is deturboed, the single turbo exhaust stack is replaced by the 2 regular stacks you see on a GP38, another easy way to tell.(as was the case with the 2099, the Railink "GP20" that was on the island..it was deturboed, making it essentially a GP18 )
 
Also, keep in mind that on the EMD 2 stroke, the turbo is gear driven for scavenging, in place of the blowers on a non turbo engine, and is clutched to become a "real" turbo at a certain engine RPM. This is why it is so simple to de-turbo them, to reduce costs, pull the turbo off, and install the blowers. A newer practice today seems to be to pin the turbo so they don't come off the clutch(an oversimplification, I'm sure) CSX is doing this with GP40-2's
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 8:00pm
on Mar 19th, 2009, 2:12pm, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
...Also, keep in mind that on the EMD 2 stroke, the turbo is gear driven for scavenging, in place of the blowers on a non turbo engine, and is clutched to become a "real" turbo at a certain engine RPM. This is why it is so simple to de-turbo them, to reduce costs, pull the turbo off, and install the blowers. A newer practice today seems to be to pin the turbo so they don't come off the clutch(an oversimplification, I'm sure) CSX is doing this with GP40-2's

 
Clutched turbo:
Huh...I didn't know that, that's a good idea.
 
Pinned turbo:
I'm not sure what the reason for or benefit of pinning the turbo is...
Perhaps _somewhat_ reduced maintenance from limiting the turbo RPM?
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 8:05pm
on Mar 19th, 2009, 12:28am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hey Balto, looks like you had some decent weather for your trip.  Here's a vid of your train just leaving Nanaimo station.  I think I saw ya in the window..
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXVKmMWF8SA

 
 
For the last few days (maybe week) the Dayliner seems to be 2 cars. Have they had an increase in passengers recently? I thought it was usually 2 cars throughout the summer, and holiday weekends. Whatever the reason, it's good to see 2 cars running.
 
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 10:10pm
Caught the Duncan Turn today, maybe the last time I'll see the old paint scheme on the island! It was raining when I left Victoria and I was hoping it would let up before I got to Duncan, it did, for a few minutes. It was coming down pretty good so I just got a few pictures in and around Duncan.  
 
First one is coming down into Duncan beside the Trans Canada Highway:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 10:14pm
Pulling up to Top Shelf:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 10:16pm
Headed north through Somenos:
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 10:21pm
Here's my first attempt at a video, so please be kind! I was pretty cold at this point making for a shaky video, sorry about that! Do you guys use a tripod or something else?  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCYZrManZQU
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 10:28pm
Other pics from today:
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7307607@N06/sets/72157615657972848/
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Mar 19th, 2009, 11:50pm
on Mar 19th, 2009, 10:21pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here's my first attempt at a video, so please be kind! I was pretty cold at this point making for a shaky video, sorry about that! Do you guys use a tripod or something else?  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCYZrManZQU

 
 
The video looks great to me. Please keep them coming... it's a lot better than some of my efforts.
 
Someone asked you on Youtube how often the Duncan turn runs. I may be wrong, but I think it's twice a week.
 
 
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Mar 20th, 2009, 1:57am
on Mar 19th, 2009, 8:05pm, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

For the last few days (maybe week) the Dayliner seems to be 2 cars. Have they had an increase in passengers recently? I thought it was usually 2 cars throughout the summer, and holiday weekends. Whatever the reason, it's good to see 2 cars running.

 
When I was talking to the Conductor the other day he said it was because Spring Break started last weekend. That’s why I’m over here   . He said by next week they should be back to 1 Budd car till summer.
 
 
on Mar 19th, 2009, 10:10pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Caught the Duncan Turn today, maybe the last time I'll see the old paint scheme on the island! It was raining when I left Victoria and I was hoping it would let up before I got to Duncan, it did, for a few minutes. It was coming down pretty good so I just got a few pictures in and around Duncan.  
 
First one is coming down into Duncan beside the Trans Canada Highway:

 
I was trying to get pictures of the Duncan turn today on my way up to Nanaimo. About what time did it go down and back at?
 
 
Here are a couple of pictures I got of the Budd’s today. First off is a picture of 6135 and 6148 in Langford this morning heading north.
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Mar 20th, 2009, 1:59am
Here I tried a bit of an artsy picture here. 6148 and 6135 heading south just outside of Ladysmith.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 20th, 2009, 2:02am
on Mar 19th, 2009, 10:21pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here's my first attempt at a video, so please be kind! I was pretty cold at this point making for a shaky video, sorry about that! Do you guys use a tripod or something else?  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCYZrManZQU

 
Looks like there's a bit of a soft spot in the track or the track has sunk a bit right before the crossing...you can see the reaction of the wheelsets close to the last joint before the pavement.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Mar 20th, 2009, 2:27am
Good job on the video!
You are not nearly as shaky as those cars going over the track joints!
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 20th, 2009, 2:43am
on Mar 20th, 2009, 1:57am, Balto wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I was trying to get pictures of the Duncan turn today on my way up to Nanaimo. About what time did it go down and back at?

 
Since the dayliner has a strict schedule, it makes the Duncan turn keep to a schedule too because there are hardly any places where they can meet. Thats great for us railfans as we know (most of the time!) when it gets to Duncan. The three most recent times I've seen the train switching Top Shelf between 11:00 and 11:30, from there it takes about 1 1/2 hours to get back to Nanaimo. Today it probably got back about 13:00.  
 
It wasn't a nice day to be out railfanning, but your pictures turned out great Balto!  
 
Minionll and CPRail4744: Watching the cars rocking back and forth is quite the sight!  
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Mar 20th, 2009, 7:44am
on Mar 19th, 2009, 10:21pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here's my first attempt at a video, so please be kind! I was pretty cold at this point making for a shaky video, sorry about that! Do you guys use a tripod or something else?  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCYZrManZQU

 
I try to use a tripod for video - once in a while you can't get set up fast enough.
If you don't have a tripod, keep your elbows tucked in as close to your body as possible. Don't use the flip-out screen as your viewfinder - always use the small viewfinder (this also saves battery power).
If you don't have a tripod, start with a cheap one if you have no other choice. But before buying, make sure the head swivels freely. I was in a hurry recently and bought one that didn't swivel - as a result, my pan shots are crappy. I now only use that tripod when I have to set up a camera and leave it locked down for long-term static shots.
Last summer when I went to BC, I didn't bother taking a tripod with me - it was easier and cheaper to pop in to the Wal-Mart in Duncan and pick one up, rather than trying to carry one with my luggage etc on the plane.
Will
Posted by: Balto Posted on: Mar 21st, 2009, 1:06am
on Mar 20th, 2009, 2:43am, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Since the dayliner has a strict schedule, it makes the Duncan turn keep to a schedule too because there are hardly any places where they can meet. Thats great for us railfans as we know (most of the time!) when it gets to Duncan. The three most recent times I've seen the train switching Top Shelf between 11:00 and 11:30, from there it takes about 1 1/2 hours to get back to Nanaimo. Today it probably got back about 13:00.  
 
It wasn't a nice day to be out railfanning, but your pictures turned out great Balto!

 
Ok, thanks for the info and for the comment vicguy!
 
 
on Mar 19th, 2009, 12:28am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hey Balto, looks like you had some decent weather for your trip.  Here's a vid of your train just leaving Nanaimo station.  I think I saw ya in the window..

 
That’s a good video CLC Fan! Its cool thinking I’m sitting in that train. I saw you glance at what probably seemed like a crazy teenager waving at a stranger from the train  .
 
 
Here's my last picture of the Dayliner that I'll be taking this trip. My ferry leaves Nanaimo before the Dayliner will arrive tomorrow so I'll have to come back to the island this summer to take more pictures! I also want to try and see 124 and 129 before I leave. At least I can see Wellcox from my hotel window  ! Anyways, here's a picture of the south bound Dayliner coming into Union Bay.
Posted by: Firejackel Posted on: Mar 21st, 2009, 2:00pm
Photos of SRY 910 & 911 @ Wellcox I believe Rail America leased for awhile in 1999. Both photos taken Feb. 24, 1999 Can anyone confirm the dates the were on the island for??
Posted by: Firejackel Posted on: Mar 21st, 2009, 2:01pm
911
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Mar 21st, 2009, 9:22pm
on Mar 21st, 2009, 2:00pm, Firejackel wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Photos of SRY 910 & 911 @ Wellcox I believe prior to Rail America getting their units to the island in 1999. I have the date for Both photos taken Feb. 24, 1999?? Can anyone confirm my dates? I never been sure on the year...

Can't confirm dates, but you are right SRY rented 'em to Rail Generica so they could get started
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 25th, 2009, 12:44am
Here you go, gang.  Some Port Alberni turn coverage from a different perspective.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSf5UVv_YUY
 
Take a ride on the Port sub.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Mar 25th, 2009, 1:11am
on Mar 25th, 2009, 12:44am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here you go, gang.  Some Port Alberni turn coverage from a different perspective.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSf5UVv_YUY
 
Take a ride on the Port sub.

Another excellent vid.  Brings back memories.  Thanks muchly for sharing
Posted by: ENR_fan Posted on: Mar 25th, 2009, 3:00am
Wow, thank you so much Sidewinder! I never got to see a train run the PA sub... until the last couple weeks. If you have any other footage do not hesitate posting it. Also enjoyed your previous clips
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Mar 25th, 2009, 8:39am
on Mar 25th, 2009, 12:44am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here you go, gang.  Some Port Alberni turn coverage from a different perspective.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSf5UVv_YUY
 
Take a ride on the Port sub.

 
Thank you!!!!
Fabulous footage!
 
Just one question though -- do you know why there were a couple of CN transfer cabeese in the Port Alberni yard/
thanks
Will
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Mar 25th, 2009, 10:29am
on Mar 25th, 2009, 8:39am, thehighwayman wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Thank you!!!!
Fabulous footage!
 
Just one question though -- do you know why there were a couple of CN transfer cabeese in the Port Alberni yard/
thanks
Will

 
Those belong to the Alberni Pacific Railway. They have since been converted into passenger cars, (three open air and two enclosed), and are used on the run up to the mill.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 25th, 2009, 7:46pm
Another great video Sidewinder, thanks for posting it.
 
That pic of unit 911 has a CP caboose in the background...what year was it taken?
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 25th, 2009, 8:15pm
Thanks Sidewinder! That must have been a fun ride
Posted by: Firejackel Posted on: Mar 25th, 2009, 8:27pm
on Mar 25th, 2009, 7:46pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Another great video Sidewinder, thanks for posting it.
 
That pic of unit 911 has a CP caboose in the background...what year was it taken?

 
 
I took that photo Feb. 24, 1999. RA leased 910 & 911 for awhile when they first came to the island. I have a picture of another loco that was here around the same time LLPX 2009. I'll post a pic in the next day or so.
 
John
Posted by: prairie_dog_central Posted on: Mar 26th, 2009, 12:39am
on Mar 25th, 2009, 12:44am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here you go, gang.  Some Port Alberni turn coverage from a different perspective.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSf5UVv_YUY
 
Take a ride on the Port sub.

wow, simply amazing! Thanks for posting!!
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 26th, 2009, 12:52am
on Mar 25th, 2009, 3:00am, ENR_fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Wow, thank you so much Sidewinder! I never got to see a train run the PA sub... until the last couple weeks. If you have any other footage do not hesitate posting it. Also enjoyed your previous clips

 
There is no more footage of trains on the Port sub itself.  There is more that could be posted, but the scenes feature Port Turns on the Victoria sub on their way to Parksville.
 
Thanks to ENR_fan, CP8673, thehighwayman, Minionll, vicguy and prairie_dog_central for your comments.  Hope I didn't overlook anyone.  Yes, vicguy, it was a fun ride but the video doesn't really do the experience justice.
 
Thehighwayman, if you can find advertisements for the Alberni Pacific steam program they should show the CN transfer cabooses as they appear today.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 26th, 2009, 9:01pm
I intended to chase the Duncan Turn today, but it didn't show up! So I scouted the E&N between Duncan and Nanaimo for future photo locations and to have a look at the new paint scheme at Wellcox. When I got there, the twins were not, so I made a trip out to Superior and watched them switch the spur. The conductor walked over and introduced himself and we chatted for a minute before they left. All in all, turned into a good day, when I was finally able to track the train down!
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 26th, 2009, 9:07pm
The new paint and logo. At first I wasn't crazy about it, but  its looking better after seeing it in person.
Posted by: Brakeman302 Posted on: Mar 26th, 2009, 9:11pm
That picture almost looks photo shopped. Awsome pict of the twins new coat!
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 26th, 2009, 9:13pm
I'll add videos later after they are processed by Youtube, here is another pic of the new look (more photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7307607@N06/sets/72157615866536537/ ):
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Mar 26th, 2009, 10:37pm
And here's the videos (sorry guys, no tripod yet!):
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNt_XFV-Kks
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXBYdvwZfrE
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3MkTGjaXfk
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmi1MyCCHxA
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHf7MkXuXQo
Posted by: andrewjoystick Posted on: Mar 27th, 2009, 1:34am
Sounds like SRY did a 3 way horn swap, 119 got 129's lousy horn, 110 got 119's horn and 129 got 110's horn.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 27th, 2009, 6:24pm
I love the way those locos sound when they throttle up/down.  
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Mar 27th, 2009, 6:38pm
on Mar 27th, 2009, 6:24pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I love the way those locos sound when they throttle up/down.  

 
Gotta love the sound of the EMD 567 engine.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Apr 15th, 2009, 12:36am
A timely stop for lunch at Buckley Bay April 2nd provided an opportunity to catch the northbound Budd car crossing the Tsable River bridge at 12:20.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Apr 21st, 2009, 3:10am
Some pictures and videos from todays Nanaimo switcher:
 

 

 

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvVyBsO2te0
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHlKi13-G30
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJxu6dDPQvI
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Apr 21st, 2009, 6:10am
Nice pics and videos Vicguy!
 
 
One question: how do the twins get on the south side of the 2 empties?  
 
I'm assuming the sequence here was:
 
1) 4 full propane cars being hauled north.
 
2)  The twins with the 4 full cars haul the 2 empties out of the spur.
 
3) The 2 empties are switched onto the mainline.
 
4) The 4 full cars are switched onto the spur.
 
5) Now the twins couple to the 2 empties on the mainline... but unless I'm missing something here, they're on the (north) wrong side of the 2 empties... and in the last video, the twins are on the south side of the empties heading back to the yard.  
 
Is there a loop just north of the propane spur that they use to run around the cars?
 
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Apr 21st, 2009, 8:17am
on Apr 21st, 2009, 6:10am, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Nice pics and videos Vicguy!
 
 
Is there a loop just north of the propane spur that they use to run around the cars?
 

 
They normally use the Wellington siding just north of the propane place.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Apr 21st, 2009, 10:12pm
Wow...in that first video, he either didn't want to hold up that white truck, or wanted to put on an acceleration show for the camera! That sounded like he made it at least to notch 4 going past the camera...
 
Sounds good.  
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Apr 22nd, 2009, 12:09am
on Apr 21st, 2009, 10:12pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Wow...in that first video, he either didn't want to hold up that white truck, or wanted to put on an acceleration show for the camera! That sounded like he made it at least to notch 4 going past the camera...
 
Sounds good.  

 
Or they're going for a quit...
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Apr 23rd, 2009, 10:04pm
Beautiful day to be trackside!
 



 
other pics from today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7307607@N06/sets/72157617148949397/
 
and videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id0RezYVYo0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhV3-tr2_rY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhk9w9dGM5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuXvBncthpo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD1g3V1ZjEQ
 
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Apr 24th, 2009, 7:55am
on Apr 23rd, 2009, 10:04pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Beautiful day to be trackside!

 
No kidding!  Those are some great pics Chris!  Certainly better than the crappy weather (-6 and snow on the ground) here in Calgary...
 
Jon
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Apr 24th, 2009, 9:40pm
on Apr 24th, 2009, 7:55am, joncalon wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
No kidding!  Those are some great pics Chris!  Certainly better than the crappy weather (-6 and snow on the ground) here in Calgary...
 
Jon

 
Thanks Jon!  I was talking to my buddy in Calgary last night and he was complaining about all the snow too. You just can't beat west coast weather!
Posted by: capt Posted on: May 5th, 2009, 9:05am
meet the north bound budds at mile 104 on my way to the little qualicum river bridge 6135,6144
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: May 5th, 2009, 3:29pm
Now there's a photo that just screams "Vancouver Island"!  Nice one, capt.  It seems that two-car trains are showing up more often these days, even in the "off" season.  That's good to see.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: May 20th, 2009, 12:00am
Came across a short video sequence of a Duncan Turn leaving Wellcox featuring a GP-38 teamed up with a high-nose GP-9 in the lead. Long hood forward, yet, sporting white flags.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9V_enAdxLE
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 20th, 2009, 1:40am
Another great video which may have answered my question about how a Duncan / Victoria turn looked and ran after CN shutdown their barge slip in Victoria. I imagine all of those cars were Victoria bound to be left on the siding in Duncan to be picked up by another crew out of Victoria. Many of the cars would be left for interchange with CN. I had read somewhere that freights were running up to 5 days a week at times to Duncan for a while to deal with the brief surge of traffic as a result of CN's slip being shutdown. The first car in the consist looks like it would be for Borden Mercantile and the CN 40ft boxcars destined for BCFP and Johnston Terminals, the CP reefer destined for EH Pope and the LPG cars for ICG and Superior. Thanks for another glimpse into the past.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: May 20th, 2009, 7:26pm
Typical operations around that time, as I recall, had the Victoria crew running a turn to Malahat three days a week, where they would swap trains with the crew out of Wellcox.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: May 20th, 2009, 10:20pm
on May 20th, 2009, 7:26pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Typical operations around that time, as I recall, had the Victoria crew running a turn to Malahat three days a week, where they would swap trains with the crew out of Wellcox.

Actually, it is possible that video should have been called "Malahat Turn".  My slides over time got labelled with Victoria Turn, Malahat Turn and Duncan Turn. There were no slides of that particular train (a problem when shooting video) and I couldn't remember what term should apply.  Should have paid closer attention to that sort of stuff.
 
ENR3005, thanks for the comment.  Glad you enjoyed the video.  Came across a few more scenes showing "Turns" in the vicinity of Nanaimo.  They will get posted in time.... hopefully.
Posted by: torch Posted on: May 20th, 2009, 10:26pm
Great vid! And about the frieghtcar breakdown.. to 3005: e.h. pope  wasnt a  customer yet in 1988  as they didnt seem to start getting cars until around 1990 or so. That warehouse was built around 1983 and was a distribution/ grocery retail called ' distributer foods'.  My uncle was in management there at the time and they would recieve up to 6 boxcars at a time but that ended and the business vacated around late 1986.  However  at the time of the video CP was still unloading a good number of cars in the vic west  yard plus standard furniture and the langford siding/team track got cars as well as garden city warehousing on the store street spur.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: May 21st, 2009, 11:09am
on May 20th, 2009, 7:26pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Typical operations around that time, as I recall, had the Victoria crew running a turn to Malahat three days a week, where they would swap trains with the crew out of Wellcox.

By 1988, the only Victoria based job was the dayliner.  The freight came south sun-tues-thurs and returned the next day
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: May 21st, 2009, 1:03pm
Thanks for that clarification, 8673.  When did the Victoria job end?
 
And Sidewinder, thanks for the great video that got this little conversation going!
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: May 21st, 2009, 2:05pm
on May 21st, 2009, 1:03pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks for that clarification, 8673.  When did the Victoria job end?
 
And Sidewinder, thanks for the great video that got this little conversation going!

late 86 or 87 sticks in my mind.  I'd to dig through a file box of old clearances to find out for certain.  But it was before gp-38's showed up over here
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: May 22nd, 2009, 1:55am
on May 20th, 2009, 10:26pm, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great vid!      And about the frieghtcar breakdown.. to 3005: e.h. pope  wasnt a  customer yet in 1988  as they didnt seem to start getting cars until around 1990 or so. That warehouse was built around 1983 and was a distribution/ grocery retail called ' distributer foods'.  My uncle was in management there at the time and they would recieve up to 6 boxcars at a time but that ended and the business vacated around late 1986.  However  at the time of the video CP was still unloading a good number of cars in the vic west  yard plus standard furniture and the langford siding/team track got cars as well as garden city warehousing on the store street spur.

 
Torch,  
 
Thanks for the clarification on EH Pope and would explain why I didn’t see any cars when I first visited there in 1988 on a family trip. I took a little unsanctioned railfan trip one evening on my mountain bike to see the siding in Langford and ended up finding ICG Propane and the EH Pope building. I explored the EH Pope spur a bit as the sun went down. I had hoped to see a freight but I had to settle for 3 LPG cars sitting on the ICG spur which was pretty impressive to a kid who had seen his first real freight train on the island a couple of months earlier. We’ll my railfan outing was cut short by some angry parents who were on their way to pickup dinner. They had somehow stumbled upon their 11 year old son on his bike ten or so kilometers from where he said he was going to be. I was promptly grounded and signed up for Air Cadets that summer (why didn't someone ever think of rail Cadets as it would have saved me from years of marching and saluting). Even though I was grounded to their 5th wheel at the campground for the rest of the trip, that outing sticks in my head as one of my favorites.
Posted by: torch Posted on: May 22nd, 2009, 9:22pm
3005:  yes,man...I  can really  relate. Jeez, my  parents  ALWAYS found me  when I strayed on my bike or whatever. Some sort of 6th sense I guess!  haha. I remember around 1990 going down to canwest mall and doing a  double take when I saw a 40 foot canadian pacific boxcar on the warehouse siding. It was an event after not seeing any cars there for 5 years or more.  Oddly enough it seemed like traffic was  actually increasing in the beggining of the 90s.  For a little while after the cnr operation in victoria shutdown borden mercantile was recieving and unloading hoppers in the vic west yard. That plus the high number of propane cars made for some decent length trains.  Vic plywood seemed to be doing steady biz then as  well. I would say 1990 was a decent year for the south end of the vic subdivision. Even vic foundry was unloading gons of  coke in the yard and clorine was shipped to vic west as well!!
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: May 23rd, 2009, 12:57am
on May 21st, 2009, 1:03pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)

And Sidewinder, thanks for the great video that got this little conversation going!

Your welcome.
 
Yes, that was quite an exchange.  Now I am baffled.  What is the consensus of opinion about the destination for those CN boxcars in the video?
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: May 23rd, 2009, 1:51am
I would think those boxcars would be for the Victoria customers like Garden City, Kelly Douglas etc or if any of them are empty Vic Ply .
I am surprised noboby mentioned that the lead unit was not turned on the wye at Stockett which was common practice when unit was long hood forward going South...i say common practice but sometimes the crews did not turn them as they may not have been able to get a work clearance or  were running late with alot of switching to do or just did not fell like doing iton May 23rd, 2009, 12:57am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Your welcome.
 
Yes, that was quite an exchange.  Now I am baffled.  What is the consensus of opinion about the destination for those CN boxcars in the video?

Posted by: hillbank Posted on: May 23rd, 2009, 2:13am
Hey Sidewinder, do you have any video of the army trains on the E&N?
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: May 23rd, 2009, 2:25am
on May 23rd, 2009, 1:51am, hillbank wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I would think those boxcars would be for the Victoria customers like Garden City, Kelly Douglas etc or if any of them are empty Vic Ply .
I am surprised noboby mentioned that the lead unit was not turned on the wye at Stockett which was common practice when unit was long hood forward going South...i say common practice but sometimes the crews did not turn them as they may not have been able to get a work clearance or  were running late with alot of switching to do or just did not fell like doing it

Probably "too much work" to get 'em back to back and they would rather have them facing the right way going home.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: May 23rd, 2009, 2:29am
on May 23rd, 2009, 2:13am, hillbank wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hey Sidewinder, do you have any video of the army trains on the E&N?

 
No, afraid not.  That certainly would have been the case of being in the right spot at the right time.  Suspect the army would have been touchy about that anyway.  Seems to me tfctrains got in the glue for taking photos of such a train at Wellcox.
 
This is the best I can do, nothing exotic like army trains:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XCC2oEW_3w
 
Thought I might as well post it, too, since it was taken the day after "Duncan Turn II".  Gives a good idea of the length of the trains in those days.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: May 26th, 2009, 11:15pm
MOW equiment parked at Malahat Station, pics taken today (May 26, 2009):
 

 

 

 
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Jun 9th, 2009, 12:10am
only on our beautiful island is it almost imposible to tell the difference between the mainline and the sideing
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Jun 11th, 2009, 10:08am
on May 21st, 2008, 10:04pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Sweet!  I'll take one..  Anyone want to form the PA Sub Speeder Club?  

this was writen a while ago but i would be so down for that. If we were aloud to i would spend my own time clearing the line! man power could get things done quickly, there are very few grade crossings and i'm sure that the trestles would be more than strong enough for speeders.
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jun 17th, 2009, 1:44am
Hey guys, I'm just judging interest here on a project.
 
As some of you know, I was fortunate to ride along with the crew on the Port turn just a short time before service was suspended and I have about two hours of raw footage that I am planning on editing down to something viewable.
 
To be blunt, if I were to make this available on DVD, what would a fair price be? I'm a videographer part time, and while I've done a number of other commercial DVDs, I've never done anything for the railfan market.
 
I'm not looking to make a mint here, just recover my cost. I was thinking of something along the lines of $25 to $30.00.  
 
I also will include some other footage as well, including some material relating to PAW, who I was doing a promotional video for before they went under.  
 
Am in the ballpark way out in the parking lot here?
 
Cheers.
 
J\
Posted by: CPR_9199 Posted on: Jun 17th, 2009, 2:16am
Just Curious.
 
Lots of people here refer to the Pacific Wilderness Railway as PAW-why?
 
Isnt it PWR if you go by the initials?
 
I don't  see anyone referring to the CPR as CAP
 
just wondering
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Jun 17th, 2009, 2:20am
on Jun 17th, 2009, 2:16am, CPR_9199 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Just Curious.
 
Lots of people here refer to the Pacific Wilderness Railway as PAW-why?
 
Isnt it PWR if you go by the initials?
 
I don't  see anyone referring to the CPR as CAP
 
just wondering
                                                          

 
Pacific Wilderness Railway's official reporting marks were PAW. PWR is the Providence and Worcester Railway in New England.
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jun 17th, 2009, 2:44am
on Jun 17th, 2009, 2:20am, bcr4604 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Pacific Wilderness Railway's official reporting marks were PAW. PWR is the Providence and Worcester Railway in New England.

 
Yes It took me quite awhile to get "PWR" out of my head and to start calling them "PAW".
 
Cheers.
 
J\
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Jun 17th, 2009, 12:53pm
Jason, IMO $25 to $30 would be perfect.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Jun 17th, 2009, 2:17pm
on Jun 17th, 2009, 12:53pm, bcr4604 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Jason, IMO $25 to $30 would be perfect.

 
I concur, although as a college student with a part time job, I would prefer $25 over $30.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jun 17th, 2009, 6:52pm
Seems reasonable.  You might want to check with Helmut Wissenger, who did the KVR video and some others.  I beleive he sells his for $25 at train shows.
 
Also, see my PM
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Jun 17th, 2009, 9:22pm
$25-30 sounds good to me, I'll be buying a copy when your finished
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Jun 18th, 2009, 12:39am
on Jun 17th, 2009, 6:52pm, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Seems reasonable.  You might want to check with Helmut Wissenger, who did the KVR video and some others.  I beleive he sells his for $25 at train shows.

That sounds about right....
I have Helmut's E&N which includes a Port Turn.  It is VHS, though.
 
I personally have issues with paying anything more than $12-15 for a DVD.  VHS- when it was "the" media I thought was a gouge over $19.  Call me cheap; but a blank DVD is, what, $.25-.50 or less in bulk?  
IF you are selling to mail-order; sell for $15 inc postage - domestic.
IF you are selling at a train show, and it's over 75 mins, then maybe $25; to recuperate your table cost.
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Jun 18th, 2009, 2:36pm
on Jun 18th, 2009, 12:39am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

That sounds about right....
I have Helmut's E&N which includes a Port Turn.  It is VHS, though.
 
I personally have issues with paying anything more than $12-15 for a DVD.  VHS- when it was "the" media I thought was a gouge over $19.  Call me cheap; but a blank DVD is, what, $.25-.50 or less in bulk?  
IF you are selling to mail-order; sell for $15 inc postage - domestic.
IF you are selling at a train show, and it's over 75 mins, then maybe $25; to recuperate your table cost.

 
Actually name brand DVDs are now about, oh, 15 cents a piece now so the actual cost of the final product in materials is almost nothing.
 
The costs that have to be paid for is the investment in equipment. At the time I shot that video, I had about $7000.00 invested in gear. Now that I have moved to full broadcast HD production, I've added nearly $20,000 worth to the total.
 
Sadly the Port trip wasn't shot in HD but it was shot with a very nice camera, for the time but if I can find some time in the next while, I'm hoping to shoot a little Vancouver Island action in HD.
 
And of course if I hire someone to write some music instead of doing it myself, there's a cost involved there. And a narrator if I hire someone will also add to my bottom line.
 
My goal though is to do something and sell it for a fair price though so I'm reading these comments with interest.
 
And before you think "Music, narrator? NO!" don't worry, I have an interesting idea for the DVD.
 
There's some sample stills from the video here:
 
http://web.uvic.ca/~jasonk/samplephotos_000.htm
 
Cheers.
 
J\
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Jun 18th, 2009, 4:29pm
on Jun 18th, 2009, 2:36pm, Jason King wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Actually name brand DVDs are now about, oh, 15 cents a piece now so the actual cost of the final product in materials is almost nothing.
 
The costs that have to be paid for is the investment in equipment. At the time I shot that video, I had about $7000.00 invested in gear. Now that I have moved to full broadcast HD production, I've added nearly $20,000 worth to the total.
 
Sadly the Port trip wasn't shot in HD but it was shot with a very nice camera, for the time but if I can find some time in the next while, I'm hoping to shoot a little Vancouver Island action in HD.
 
And of course if I hire someone to write some music instead of doing it myself, there's a cost involved there. And a narrator if I hire someone will also add to my bottom line.
 
My goal though is to do something and sell it for a fair price though so I'm reading these comments with interest.
 
And before you think "Music, narrator? NO!" don't worry, I have an interesting idea for the DVD.
 
There's some sample stills from the video here:
 
http://web.uvic.ca/~jasonk/samplephotos_000.htm
 
Cheers.
 
J\

 
Sorry about the length .. and leaving in both previous quotes ... BUT
As someone who dabbles in video production, and who has also done voice-over narration on a professional basis for more years than I care to remember, I fully understand the amount of time that goes into producing a video.
Even at $25 to $30, the producer is going to have to be extremely fortunate to wind up with enough profit to buy himself a Happy Meal!
Remember, regular video is shot at approx 30 frames per second. (HD is usually 60 frames/second). I have seen myself spend more than an hour to come up with about five seconds of finished video, when it comes to ensuring good edits, especially when working with raw sound.
The market for this type of video is actually quite small -- maybe a few hundred will be sold -- over the next five to ten years!
But if the producer has spent hundreds of hours to put it together, then the costs of having the duplicates made, labels printed, cases printed etc (all up-front costs by the way), he should probably be charging much more than 25 to 30 dollars if he values his own time at anything over minimum wage!
I will now get down off my soapbox.
Thanks
Will
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Jun 19th, 2009, 1:15am
Personally, twenty-five to thirty would be fine by me, as I understand how small the acutal market for this would be.
 
I have a few other videos of Island railroading, and they have generally have cost me that much in Canadian funds, not to mention any that have come from the US or other places.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 19th, 2009, 2:21pm
North switch Langford...just because I was there and the train wasn't
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 19th, 2009, 2:22pm
Still waiting...closeup of the lock
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 19th, 2009, 2:23pm
Dayliner leaving after picking up most of the passengers
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 19th, 2009, 2:25pm
Because someone mistook the bus drivers washroom for the station, they stopped to pick up the rest of the passengers giving me time to make it a few blocks north for this one.
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Jul 20th, 2009, 9:08pm
on Jul 19th, 2009, 2:25pm, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Because someone mistook the bus drivers washroom for the station, they stopped to pick up the rest of the passengers giving me time to make it a few blocks north for this one.

 
 
Thats funny , well if all goes well, it will be the future station site.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:21pm
Today's Duncan turn at Chemainus waiting for the Budds to go by
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:22pm
Dayliner @ Chemainus
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:24pm
Duncan Turn leaving shortly thereafter
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:28pm
Arriving at Top Shelf
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:29pm
Another one from Top Shelf...went home afterwards
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2009, 6:25pm
That your Ford Focus??
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2009, 6:35pm
on Jul 21st, 2009, 6:25pm, bcr4604 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
That your Ford Focus??

Nope...my ride would be the white Grand Marquis in the switch stand photo.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 3:18am
on Jul 21st, 2009, 6:35pm, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Nope...my ride would be the white Grand Marquis in the switch stand photo.

You trying to be the E&N Rail Police?  
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 11:34am
on Jul 22nd, 2009, 3:18am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

You trying to be the E&N Rail Police?  

I must say I have a greater number of people slowing down around me than I do on the occasions I have dad's car.  Sometimes that's a big P I T A when trying to get to the next photo location.
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Jul 24th, 2009, 10:48am
on Jul 22nd, 2009, 11:34am, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I must say I have a greater number of people slowing down around me than I do on the occasions I have dad's car.  Sometimes that's a big P I T A when trying to get to the next photo location.

 
I hear ya.  A friend of mine has a former Ford police interceptor (the real deal, after the Calgary Police Service were done abusing it) and on a drive back from Regina, we had a fair number of people slow down/move over/not bother passing us due to the look of the car.
 
But on the highway, if we wanted someone to move over, we'd put ourselves half on the median shoulder and people would move over real quick.  I've tried doing the same maneuver in my VW Golf and had no success.  
 
Jon
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Jul 27th, 2009, 11:15pm
Any know where I could down load a sound clip for my cell phone, is clip from a CP Rail Detector>>>wouldnt that be sweet< I know unrelated to SRY, but just thought i would ask>>>Hope everyone is enjoying the heat!
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Aug 15th, 2009, 2:24am
Came across a short video sequence of Wellcox during the CP Rail days.  While staring into the screen reminiscing, thought perhaps the group would like to have a look.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKVlsb2u7pY
 
It is not action packed, but does show what Wellcox should look like.  It is always a shock to see the yards in their present condition.
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 18th, 2009, 3:12am
An interesting video of the Dayliner I just found on Youtube. Check out the unique camera angle from the 26 second mark!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u85kq-cS1i0
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 25th, 2009, 9:49pm
The back of 6135 (with 6148 leading) heading towards the Lampson St crossing shortly before 6pm this evening.
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 25th, 2009, 10:06pm
A sequence of three pictures, taken a few seconds apart, at the new Saghalie Rd. crossing between the new Tyee Rd and Catherine St. crossings (at around 8:20 pm last Sunday). Both RDCs are heading back from the station at the end of their work day, empty... bound for their stall at the roundhouse a short distance away.
 
1) Flashing lights activated:
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Aug 25th, 2009, 10:07pm
on Aug 25th, 2009, 9:49pm, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The back of 6133 (with 6148 leading) heading towards the Lampson St crossing shortly before 6pm this evening.

 
Looks like the 6135
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 25th, 2009, 10:08pm
2) Barriers descending:
 
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 25th, 2009, 10:09pm
3) 6135 (and 6148 at rear) crossing Saghalie Rd.
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 25th, 2009, 10:11pm
on Aug 25th, 2009, 10:07pm, bcr4604 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Looks like the 6135

 
Whoops! I stand corrected. I'm meant 6133. I'll correct the number in my other posts.
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Aug 25th, 2009, 11:18pm
on Aug 25th, 2009, 10:06pm, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A sequence of three pictures, taken a few seconds apart, at the new Saghalie Rd. crossing

 
New grade crossing...Hmm.  They don't even get the Railway Crossing sign correct.  The red outline is supposed to go around the entire X, not just the long edges of the individual bits...
 
Jon
Posted by: cobblehillian Posted on: Aug 27th, 2009, 1:23am
Joncalon:
 
I think you are right.
 
See:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CanadianRailwayCrossing.jpg
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Aug 28th, 2009, 1:07am
I wonder if the cross pieces are cut from bulk aluminum material that already has the red strips prepainted the whole length.
 
Picture below is crossbucks we're used to...CN Singh Street crossing in Kamloops.
Posted by: cobblehillian Posted on: Aug 28th, 2009, 9:47pm
Whether or not the cross bucks have stripes across the ends must be dependent on the supplier and/or manufacturer.
 
I crossed the E&N north of Cobble Hill station at Thain Road and found there were no end stripes on the cross bucks there.  The E&N must buy the or make them without the end stripes.
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 28th, 2009, 11:32pm
... or maybe the crossbars were bolted together backwards. In other words, perhaps the rear bar is intended to be in front (one bar being made with the full outline and the other with the breaks).
Posted by: cycledude Posted on: Aug 29th, 2009, 12:06pm
on Aug 18th, 2009, 3:12am, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
An interesting video of the Dayliner I just found on Youtube. Check out the unique camera angle from the 26 second mark!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u85kq-cS1i0

 
Roger that . . . very coool . . .
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Aug 29th, 2009, 6:39pm
on Aug 28th, 2009, 9:47pm, cobblehillian wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Whether or not the cross bucks have stripes across the ends must be dependent on the supplier and/or manufacturer.

 
Realistically, that's irrelevant.  Every road sign needs to conform to the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD).  Signage is supposed to be the same so that it conveys the same message regardless of where the driver comes from.  A stop sign is that shape and colour across the country for a reason.  Same goes for all the other signs and that includes the railway crossing sign.
 
Jon
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 29th, 2009, 6:51pm
on Aug 29th, 2009, 6:39pm, joncalon wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Realistically, that's irrelevant.  Every road sign needs to conform to the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD).  Signage is supposed to be the same so that it conveys the same message regardless of where the driver comes from.  A stop sign is that shape and colour across the country for a reason.  Same goes for all the other signs and that includes the railway crossing sign.
 
Jon

 
True. That's why I suspect (as I mentioned earlier) that both pieces of the sign were made correctly. It just that the wrong pieces were assembled, or the pieces are assembled backwards.
 
I'll have a close look at the offending crossbucks when I down there next time to see if it is really just back-to-front.  
 
 
 
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Aug 30th, 2009, 1:12am
on Aug 29th, 2009, 6:51pm, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
True. That's why I suspect (as I mentioned earlier) that both pieces of the sign were made correctly. It just that the wrong pieces were assembled, or the pieces are assembled backwards.
 
I'll have a close look at the offending crossbucks when I down there next time to see if it is really just back-to-front.

 
I doubt that would help.  Remember there's no red on the ends of any of the boards, which would still be incorrect.
 
Jon
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Aug 30th, 2009, 8:59am
on Aug 29th, 2009, 6:39pm, joncalon wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Realistically, that's irrelevant.  Every road sign needs to conform to the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD).  Signage is supposed to be the same so that it conveys the same message regardless of where the driver comes from.  A stop sign is that shape and colour across the country for a reason.  Same goes for all the other signs and that includes the railway crossing sign.
 
Jon

 
As a person who drives all over western North America; I can tell you that every province & state's road signs differ from the next province/state; with one exception: RR crossing crossbucks. That being said, Canadian wordless red crossbucks are universal in every province; and the USA's "Railroad Crossing" are universal in every state.
 
This is the first time I have seen the "redless" ends anywhere.
Posted by: CP8673 Posted on: Aug 30th, 2009, 1:29pm
on Aug 30th, 2009, 8:59am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
As a person who drives all over western North America; I can tell you that every province & state's road signs differ from the next province/state; with one exception: RR crossing crossbucks. That being said, Canadian wordless red crossbucks are universal in every province; and the USA's "Railroad Crossing" are universal in every state.
 
This is the first time I have seen the "redless" ends anywhere.

I believe that is because the rr xing signs are the only ones that the feds have any say on both here and down south.
 
Anyway it is a minor glitch that really won't matter until some clueless idiot gets darwined there, then some liar (oops i mean lawyer) might just pick up on it.  So maybe we don't want to be increasing the likelihood that this discussion will get picked up in a Google search
Posted by: Coastrail Posted on: Aug 30th, 2009, 11:25pm
on Aug 30th, 2009, 1:29pm, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I believe that is because the rr xing signs are the only ones that the feds have any say on both here and down south.
 
Anyway it is a minor glitch that really won't matter until some clueless idiot gets darwined there, then some liar (oops i mean lawyer) might just pick up on it.  So maybe we don't want to be increasing the likelihood that this discussion will get picked up in a Google search

 
 
But we like clueless idiots playing chicken with trains.  
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Sep 1st, 2009, 1:27am
OK, before this goes any further, I am heading down there tomorrow with my red electrical tape and slapping a strip of it on the end of each cross- buck.  I wouldn't be surprised if I could get a government grant to fund my little operation in the interests of provincial uniformity.
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Sep 1st, 2009, 1:45am
Look at this, somebody beat me to it...
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Sep 1st, 2009, 2:29pm

 
RR sign in QB on Qualicum Road.
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Sep 6th, 2009, 11:22am
on Mar 25th, 2007, 3:49am, CN7303 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Is it just me, or is there a person out on the telegraph wires? I'm sure i'm just seeing things but it does look an aweful lot like it.

 i see people on the wires too!! You can see their fall protection goes to the bridge.
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Sep 8th, 2009, 9:33am
found this one in my files, the first time that me and my wife got to see the blues brothers, notice 3870 in the background. I believe that 2099 was there too.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Sep 15th, 2009, 9:27pm
Over the years, decades actually, a trip to Nanaimo has not been complete without a visit to Wellcox.  On this hot September 2009 day there seemed to be a strange chill in the air.  Somewhat dank.  Anybody believe in ghosts?
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Sep 16th, 2009, 12:49am
Nicely done!
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Sep 25th, 2009, 12:11am
on Sep 16th, 2009, 12:49am, bcr4604 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Nicely done!

 
Thanks, bcr4604.  Kind of wondered if anyone would care to see the results of my fantasy.  Almost did not post it but decided it could be deleted it if there was no response.
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Sep 25th, 2009, 2:17am
Im really impressed being as Im a non computer type Sidewinder.  I think its really cool.
Posted by: bcr4604 Posted on: Oct 2nd, 2009, 3:39am
A few screen grabs from a DVD I recently picked up. "Canadian Rails" by Charles Smiley. I highly recommend this DVD, excellent vintage footage of railways across Canada.  
 
Duncan yard

 
RDC at Ladysmith

 
Nanaimo Station


 
RDC turning on the wye at Courtenay


 
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Oct 2nd, 2009, 9:26am
there was a wye in courtenay? and a yard in duncan!! is there any where a map available with all of the track configurations on the island at the time that video was taken? I'm sure somewhere at welcox there is a goldmine of real maps of the track layouts!
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Oct 2nd, 2009, 11:12am
on Oct 2nd, 2009, 3:39am, bcr4604 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A few screen grabs from a DVD I recently picked up. "Canadian Rails" by Charles Smiley. I highly recommend this DVD, excellent vintage footage of railways across Canada.  
 
Duncan yard
[

 
I hope you don't mind, but I have tried to label some of the important features in this photo.
Will
Posted by: cn8863 Posted on: Oct 13th, 2009, 3:43pm
Anyone remember VIA running the ski trains? During the winter and early spring VIA would run 2 trains out of Victoria on Fridays. The dayliner would leave at 7:30 AM and the Ski Train would leave at 6:00 PM, overnight in Courtenay, and leave Courtenay at 9:00 AM on Saturday. I think 2001 was the last year that VIA ran the ski trains. I found an old video of mine of the early dayliner pulling into the Victoria station at around 6:45 AM in March of 2001.  
 
The schedule also made it possible on Fridays for people up island to do a round trip to Victoria and back.
 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se1qq9DSGzs
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Oct 13th, 2009, 4:08pm
that just makes to much sense
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Oct 20th, 2009, 1:50am
Took this from the 18th floor of the Pacifica Bldg in Nanaimo for no reason what-so-ever.  Zoomed, cropped, and reduced by over 50% from the original.
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Oct 20th, 2009, 10:02am
on Oct 20th, 2009, 1:50am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Took this from the 18th floor of the Pacifica Bldg in Nanaimo for no reason what-so-ever.  Zoomed, cropped, and reduced by over 50% from the original.

 
Nice shot.  Get a chance to see a better overview of the important bits of the yard compared to stuff taken from the bridge.
 
Be interesting to see more shots from the same location on different days to see differences between what's there now and what will or won't be there down the road.
 
Jon
Posted by: Firejackel Posted on: Oct 20th, 2009, 11:45am
This has got to be one of the coolest shots of Wellcox. I wish we had photos from over the years to compare with... Thanks a bunch for posting it  
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Oct 22nd, 2009, 12:22am
I found myself working around Ladysmith this afternoon.  Here's #6148 just south of the station heading south.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Oct 22nd, 2009, 12:26am
The sun had just peeked out and the fall colours were great.  Too bad the lower left was shaded.
Posted by: Chris_C Posted on: Oct 22nd, 2009, 4:19pm
awesome photos!
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Oct 22nd, 2009, 9:33pm
I will second that! Love the way the yellow on 6148 is highlighted by the fall colors.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Oct 23rd, 2009, 1:03am
on Oct 22nd, 2009, 12:22am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I found myself working around Ladysmith this afternoon.  Here's #6148 just south of the station heading south.

I love the 130lb straight welded rail in this shot!  
Posted by: capt Posted on: Nov 8th, 2009, 7:25pm
this old girl was sitting in parksville today a water tanker
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Nov 8th, 2009, 8:41pm
on Nov 8th, 2009, 7:25pm, capt wrote:       (Click here for original message)
this old girl was sitting in parksville today a water tanker

 
Was this tanker just recently moved to Parksville? Or has it been there for a while?  
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Nov 9th, 2009, 9:35am
as long as I can remember
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Nov 9th, 2009, 9:00pm
on Nov 9th, 2009, 8:52pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Anyone seen this vid on YouTube yet?  The opening pic in b&w sure brings back some distant memories.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e8431LkYls

 
That's one of cycledude's videos.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 27th, 2009, 1:23am
Digging through some old slides in the last few days found this one in Courtenay of three Budd Cars arriving at the Station, I believe it would have been 6134 with RDC 9 6006 along with 6133. The photo was taken  in 1986.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 27th, 2009, 1:48am
on Dec 27th, 2009, 1:23am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Digging through some old slides in the last few days found this one in Courtenay of three Budd Cars arriving at the Station, I believe it would have been 6134 with RDC 9 6006 along with 6133. The photo was taken  in 1986.

Another day in 1986 with 6133 leading 6006 trailing.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 27th, 2009, 1:56am
on Dec 27th, 2009, 1:48am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Another day in 1986 with 6133 leading 6006 trailing.

Now the the fun begins, time to change ends, 6133 is uncouplied from 6006 so it can run around it's train and recouple to the other end so 6133 can be leading southbound. Do you like the marker lamps on the rear of 6006?
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Dec 27th, 2009, 2:09am
on Dec 27th, 2009, 1:56am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Now the the fun begins, time to change ends, 6133 is uncouplied from 6006 so it can run around it's train and recouple to the other end so 6133 can be leading southbound. Do you like the marker lamps on the rear of 6006?

Back on the main ready to couple back on to 6006, I remember this taking place a few time while the 6006 was on the Island. The three cars running together only took place 2 or 3 days as I remember. The three cars were on the Island during Expo 86 with the hope that they would be needed, it was not well promoted in my mind so it was not used like it could have been, same old story on the E&N.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Dec 27th, 2009, 2:13am
Pretty cool to see three of them linked up like that.
 
I wonder at what point it is more economical to run a conventional train loco/passenger cars vs. a string of self-propelled cars.
Posted by: canfor113 Posted on: Dec 27th, 2009, 5:37am
it is hard to believe this is what courtenay looked like back in those days, and you see what it looks like now. whatever happened to the 6006 anyway? does anybody know?
 
on Dec 27th, 2009, 1:56am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Now the the fun begins, time to change ends, 6133 is uncouplied from 6006 so it can run around it's train and recouple to the other end so 6133 can be leading southbound. Do you like the marker lamps on the rear of 6006?

Posted by: canfor113 Posted on: Dec 27th, 2009, 5:39am
it is hard to believe this is what courtenay looked like back in those days, and you see what it looks like now. whatever happened to the 6006 anyway? does anybody know?
 
on Dec 27th, 2009, 1:56am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Now the the fun begins, time to change ends, 6133 is uncouplied from 6006 so it can run around it's train and recouple to the other end so 6133 can be leading southbound. Do you like the marker lamps on the rear of 6006?

Posted by: canfor113 Posted on: Dec 27th, 2009, 5:41am
i always thought thats what duncan looked like back in the good ole days. but when you look at the pictures of ladysmith station and nanaimo station they look completely different.
 
 
 
on Oct 2nd, 2009, 3:39am, bcr4604 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A few screen grabs from a DVD I recently picked up. "Canadian Rails" by Charles Smiley. I highly recommend this DVD, excellent vintage footage of railways across Canada.  
 
Duncan yard

 
RDC at Ladysmith

 
Nanaimo Station


 
RDC turning on the wye at Courtenay


 

Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Dec 27th, 2009, 10:15am
Quote:
Digging through some old slides in the last few days found this one in Courtenay of three Budd Cars arriving at the Station, I believe it would have been 6134 with RDC 9 6006 along with 6133. The photo was taken  in 1986.

 
There's a picture that takes me back!  I rode a three-car dayliner from Qualicum Beach to Victoria that summer.  The first two cars were pretty much full when we got on at Qualicum; the crew were trying to keep the last car closed but didn't seem to mind us taking seats in it.  The car filled up pretty good at Nanaimo, though.  One of the quietest rides I can remember on the E&N--three cars back, you don't have the horn constantly blaring in your ears!  I remember two meets on that that trip--it was a bustling little railway back then.
 
And the picture with the markers on 6006 is just too cool for words.  Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Dec 29th, 2009, 4:33pm
The RDC-9's were supposedly all retired at the end of summer 1986. After that, they all wound up stored in Quebec, along with a few RDC4's(including CP 9251, the one that is now at IRSI being rebuilt) and other equipment, and stayed there for many years. Sometime in the last decade, all of the equipment stored in that location was dispersed, I do believe a couple of the RDC-9's were scrapped, but the rest were scattered, some to the US. At least 6002 and 6006 are still in Canada, 6002 in stored in Ottawa, and 6006 was stored in Orangeville when this http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1174098 was taken in 2008. Both owned by David Walmsley(DAWX), an equipment dealer of sorts.
Posted by: Brushcutter Posted on: Dec 29th, 2009, 9:26pm
I think the three car sets ran more that a couple of times during the summer of '86.  Unless it was my dumb luck.  Two of the three afternoons I have pix of them were taken at Niagara Creek where I spent a considerable time up in a tree.  Dave Wilkie would later put my perch to good use for northbound freights...
 
on Dec 27th, 2009, 2:09am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Back on the main ready to couple back on to 6006, I remember this taking place a few time while the 6006 was on the Island. The three cars running together only took place 2 or 3 days as I remember. The three cars were on the Island during Expo 86 with the hope that they would be needed, it was not well promoted in my mind so it was not used like it could have been, same old story on the E&N.

Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Dec 31st, 2009, 10:33pm
So I'm in the process of building the E&N north of Cassidy in my basement, and one wall is needing something in the way of artwork...
 
My wife has access to a really big printer (some 52" wide by whatever length) and I'd love to put up a big photo of Wellcox Yard, circa 1988 (the year I'm modelling), and am hoping someone who hangs out here has such a photo...
 
I'd like an original slide or negative (and will return once the scan is done) and will pay for it...
 
Can you help?
 
Thanks!
Jon
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Jan 1st, 2010, 1:58am
on Dec 31st, 2009, 10:33pm, joncalon wrote:       (Click here for original message)
So I'm in the process of building the E&N north of Cassidy in my basement, and one wall is needing something in the way of artwork...
 
My wife has access to a really big printer (some 52" wide by whatever length) and I'd love to put up a big photo of Wellcox Yard, circa 1988 (the year I'm modelling), and am hoping someone who hangs out here has such a photo...
 
I'd like an original slide or negative (and will return once the scan is done) and will pay for it...
 
Can you help?
 
Thanks!
Jon

How much does she charge by the foot to print modeling backgrounds?
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Jan 1st, 2010, 12:38pm
on Jan 1st, 2010, 1:58am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

How much does she charge by the foot to print modeling backgrounds?

 
Depends entirely on what dimensions you're looking for and the type of material.  Feel free to drop me an e-mail at jon@calon.ca with the details and I'll get you a price.
 
Jon
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Jan 8th, 2010, 1:25am
Back in January 1991, Tfctrains and I thought freezing trackside waiting for a train would be better than a day working.  It was.  Here is a short video, "Port Turn V", showing what we saw.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrniDhfmZHw
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 8th, 2010, 1:49am
on Jan 8th, 2010, 1:25am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Back in January 1991, Tfctrains and I thought freezing trackside waiting for a train would be better than a day working.  It was.  Here is a short video, "Port Turn V", showing what we saw.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrniDhfmZHw

That video sent shivers up my spine, now that we are retired it is too bad there isn't more trains to chase. Great stuff Sidewinder!
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Jan 8th, 2010, 9:25am
thanks for posting that great video. i lived in tahsis untill 2001 so I missed all of the port turns.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jan 8th, 2010, 12:59pm
Thanks for the two recent vids Sidewinder! The last vid with the two 35s and 30 reminded me of the first time I ever saw the Port Turn coming through Nanoose Bay in the late 80s. The trio of unit reminds me of a set which ran daily to Sumas from Mission in the early 90s which I saw on a regular basis sitting at the border while heading to my parents vacation property in the states. I had hoped to see a similar set operating on the island in the winter of 91 when visting however power was 38s by then.
 
I think I may have asked this in the past but I will ask again as my memory is foggy after being sick and medicated for the past couple of weeks. Was lumber still being loaded in bulkheads flats at one of the mills at that time or was there a transload operation in place? I recently found a spur on Google Earth which led into one of the mills at the tail end of yard which looked like something which might have been recently used (in the last 20 years) as everything looks to be paved over in the area. Any info would be appreciated.
 
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Jan 8th, 2010, 2:29pm
Now THAT'S a video! thank God there were people doing this then, I didn't start till 92! Only thing missing is a caboose(end cupola please!) The mech. forces may have hated those units, but they sure had personality. Maybe I should change my screen name to "MissanythingnotGE" On another note, I find it terrifying that this was now 19 years ago!
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Jan 8th, 2010, 11:27pm
ENRFAN - You're welcome!
 
ENR3005 - You're welcome, too.  Can't answer your question, though, since I live at the wrong end of the claim.  Don't know the loading systems at Port. Tfctrains, on the other hand, might come up with an answer.
 
missthealcos - Ya, 19 years ago.  I can remember stamping my feet in the frosty grass trying to keep warm at Summit lake like it was yesterday.  You mention "anything else but GEs".  In my case, a good name would be missthebaldwins!
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jan 19th, 2010, 3:06am
A pair of boxcars being unloaded for an unknown customer in Parksville on the southside of the station back in the mid 90s.
Posted by: cn8863 Posted on: Feb 26th, 2010, 12:58am
I highly suggest everyone check out the Vancouver Island Railway group on Flickr, there are some excellent historical E&N, CN and other railway photos from the Island on there.  
 
http://www.flickr.com/groups/e_nrailway/
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Mar 5th, 2010, 3:23am
Shot with my phone last night out in Langford while waiting for the bus. Sorry about the quality; I wasn't even going to bother posting it, but I liked the way it turned out, with the clouds in the background and the distorted front end of 6135.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 5th, 2010, 8:30pm
Look at those nice shiny new rails.  
Not shiny due to high traffic, unfortunately...
Posted by: Jason King Posted on: Mar 17th, 2010, 1:37am
As many of you know, I am working on cutting my footage together of a trip on the Port Sub shortly before service was discontinued, and my goal is to have it done by the summer. I'm having to fit it in around work and tons of other video contracts.
 
I'm thinking of adding a short feature on the DVD along the lines of "how things are now", getting shots of various sections of the sub as they appear today.  
 
Would anyone who knows how to access some of they key areas like to assist me one day later in the spring once the days are a bit longer?
 
Cheers.
 
J\
Posted by: torch Posted on: Mar 17th, 2010, 5:52am
Anybody notice the new 'trail' section beside the tracks in Langford complete with railings?  Was this an oversight?  Its right along the north side of the siding,right to the milstream/goldstream intersection.   How does SRY expect to unload dust control tankers or hydro transformers now?  Any thoughts?
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Mar 17th, 2010, 10:08am
I don't think that they  put any thought into it. I'm sure that the tracks could have been fixed up good enough with the money spent on the stupid trails.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Apr 3rd, 2010, 11:12pm
Taken from the 18th floor of the Pacifica building.  
Posted by: CN7303 Posted on: Apr 4th, 2010, 12:29am
I'm surprised the railway hasn't picked up Island Pallet as a customer. Maybe it's not the most efficient use of rail cars, but you should ship those pallets all up and down the line.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: May 1st, 2010, 9:00pm
Island Pallet has done some expansion to their parking lot, thus some of the soil and gravel has spilled down and partially covering one of the outer tracks that lead to the barge ramp. Same with the two old freight leads.
 
Otherwise, this was the state of the yard as of thursday, April 29th.
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: May 2nd, 2010, 12:19am
6133 and the WCRA cars are STILL THERE
 
I'd imagine nobody's wanting them or else they'd be gone from the island by now...
 
Jon
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: May 2nd, 2010, 12:48am
The WCRA cars aren't likely to go back to Squamish until 2860 is finished with the axle box work they are doing at Via in Vancouver..which is who knows when.
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: May 2nd, 2010, 10:57am
on May 2nd, 2010, 12:48am, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The WCRA cars aren't likely to go back to Squamish until 2860 is finished with the axle box work they are doing at Via in Vancouver..which is who knows when.

 
So in the meantime, I take it SRVI is storing them for the WCRA for a fee?  Heck, if the yard isn't going to be fully utilized, I see no issues with making some money off of it.  Of course, odds are likely they're being stored there gratis...
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: May 2nd, 2010, 12:31pm
on May 2nd, 2010, 10:57am, joncalon wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
So in the meantime, I take it SRVI is storing them for the WCRA for a fee?  Heck, if the yard isn't going to be fully utilized, I see no issues with making some money off of it.  Of course, odds are likely they're being stored there gratis...

Hopefully they wont get a paint job for free............
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: May 2nd, 2010, 10:17pm
Happened to be at the right place at the right time when SRY was switching the propane spur at M76.5 April 29.
Posted by: novabus9228 Posted on: May 8th, 2010, 7:54pm
A couple of Pictures of #6135 Crossing the French Creek Trestle at 2:36pm this afternoon, May 8, 2010
 
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2762267860103230436WwugWL
 
Better and Closer picture:
 
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2676834020103230436GUmOQV
 
I opted for pictures instead of video because I am still uploading videos from my Vancouver Trip last Friday. I did see the Hudson at the Via Yard while passing it on the Skytrian.  Did not get a picture though.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: May 8th, 2010, 11:02pm
on May 8th, 2010, 7:54pm, novabus9228 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A couple of Pictures of #6135 Crossing the French Creek Trestle at 2:36pm this afternoon, May 8, 2010

 
Awesome photos! I caught the Dayliner today as well, first sighting at about 4:20 at Somenos, then a couple more times at Cowichan Station and Shawnigan Lake before heading home. The passengers must have wondered why people were taking their pictures all afternoon!  
Posted by: cn2220 Posted on: May 11th, 2010, 1:55am
Music video for "Heading for Nowhere" by Jets Overhead, partially shot at the roundhouse.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFnMimtoSkQ
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: May 11th, 2010, 2:41pm
on May 11th, 2010, 1:55am, cn2220 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Music video for "Heading for Nowhere" by Jets Overhead, partially shot at the roundhouse.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFnMimtoSkQ

 
 
That link didn't work ... try this one:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJWrF7rsKfM&NR=1
 
BTW:   they aren't bad .... and I'm an old 1960's rocker!!!
 
Will
Posted by: novabus9228 Posted on: May 11th, 2010, 9:56pm

 
Mothers Day RDC Budds May 9, 2010 Crossing French Creek Trestle From Drew Road in Qualicum Beach.
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/Novabus9228#p/a/u/1/K1PtskMO3AY
 
April 10, 2010 #6135 arriving in Parksville about 20 minutes late southbound:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Novabus9228#p/a/u/0/Ojpw81aYmgI
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: May 17th, 2010, 9:47pm
HA, art..looks like hell...just another example of society deteriorating. Remember when the only Graffiti you would usually find was the odd political statement, or "Grad XX"? Wasn't very long ago. Look at video shot 10 years ago, and you won't find ANY of this "art" on the cars of a long consist. Now, practically every car has it. They particularly like freshly painted cars, the new Saskatchewan Grain Car corp. scheme seems to be a favourite to destroy.
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Jun 7th, 2010, 1:25am
I spotted a new (replacement?) rail just west of the Lampson St. crossing in Esquimalt today. It wasn't there a couple of weeks ago... so at least there's some track maintenance going on south of Duncan.  
 
It also could have been an old rail that had just been removed, since it was sprayed with orange paint.
 
(sorry for the poor picture quality... I snapped it on my cellphone)
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Jun 28th, 2010, 12:40am
Two videos I took this (Sunday) evening of the Dayliner. The first in Esquimalt between Admirals Rd and Lampson St:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWTgDvEW_8I
 
 
And the second, near the roundhouse at the new Sitkum Rd. crossing:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKyBTIA7ml4
 
 
These were both taken with my (new) iPhone. The video quality isn't too bad for a cell phone.
Posted by: CLC Fan Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010, 12:43am
New paint job.  I dub thee The Pickle.  
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010, 1:01am
on Jun 30th, 2010, 12:43am, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
New paint job.  I dub thee The Pickle.  

 
 
Ah... British Rail Southern Region circa 1965
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010, 9:49am
looks good!
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010, 12:51pm
Has anyone seen a frieght heading north to-day, have not heard anything on the scanner as of yet.
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Jun 30th, 2010, 4:04pm
A couple more Dayliner videos (similar locations):
 
 
Near Kimta Rd in Vic West:
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/mas57#p/a/u/0/T2LxRZdE71s
 
 
In Esquimalt:
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/mas57#p/a/u/1/ERjHyGD7Z38
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Jul 8th, 2010, 10:19pm
The Dayliner this evening (Thursday) in Esquimalt:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVcAcCtYHc
Posted by: cn2220 Posted on: Aug 6th, 2010, 4:40pm
RDC2 6207 at Victoria
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29768538@N02/4553860180/
 
RDC2 6207 at Langford
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29768538@N02/4553220829/in/photostream/
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Aug 6th, 2010, 6:40pm
on Aug 6th, 2010, 4:40pm, cn2220 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
RDC2 6207 at Victoria
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29768538@N02/4553860180/
 
RDC2 6207 at Langford
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29768538@N02/4553220829/in/photostream/

 
 
When were these taken?
Posted by: cn2220 Posted on: Aug 6th, 2010, 9:31pm
on Aug 6th, 2010, 6:40pm, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
When were these taken?

 
Early 1990's when 6134 was off for a rebuild.
Posted by: cycledude Posted on: Aug 25th, 2010, 6:06pm
VIDEO: Dayliner Temporarily at Langford Station
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Oct 24th, 2010, 1:53pm
Great video Sidewinder, looks like a Victoria Turn. Seeing these videos makes me miss the CP days......
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 3rd, 2010, 11:53pm
Speaking of the CP days, there's been some fantastic E&N photos posted on Flickr lately by Dave Wilkie's son. Great stuff from the 70's and a lot of Baldwin action:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/msdwilkie/
Posted by: vanislrailway Posted on: Nov 4th, 2010, 12:33am
I love looking at these old pictures.  I just got my own gold mine of slides.  Adam Baxter took hundreds of pictures of the railways, a few hundred is from the E&N.  Victoria Roundhouse with the switchers, engines in the bays a rail car being scraped by a CP crain as well as the welcox yard, Kinsol trestle and many more places on the Island.  It is going to take me a while to catolog and scan these picts in.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 4th, 2010, 12:49am
that's great vanislrailway, can't wait to see them! Do you mind me asking how you came across these? I'm always looking but never have any luck.
Posted by: vanislrailway Posted on: Nov 4th, 2010, 4:22pm
It was more of my crazy luck.  I went to buy a CPR Conductors Hat and Vest from Adam and he said he was moving and I told him I have a big collection.  He said he had the a few boxs of slides and would sell them to me and so I jumped at the chance.  I tell everyone I collect stuff from the Islands' railways because you never know who has what.  I now have around 500 items and close to 1000 images from the railway.  I want a museum one day and so I always keep my eyes open.  
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 4th, 2010, 5:35pm
Wow that is a nice score, I never have that kind of luck! I can't believe he didn't want them anymore?! Either way it's good that they went to somebody like you who will share them with the public, otherwise them might have been lost forever.
 
Oh yeah, I think you already have that museum
Posted by: cycledude Posted on: Nov 6th, 2010, 12:16pm
on Nov 3rd, 2010, 11:53pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Speaking of the CP days, there's been some fantastic E&N photos posted on Flickr lately by Dave Wilkie's son. Great stuff from the 70's and a lot of Baldwin action:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/msdwilkie/

 
Thanks for posting this Wilkie photo link.
Posted by: vanislrailway Posted on: Nov 7th, 2010, 4:47am
Well here is a real treasure for any rail fan on the island.  I was surfing youtube and found this 8 part video.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA8b1DmQnVQ[url][/url]   on Vancouver island Logging showing the port renfrew area and some Bloedel Stewert and Welch Steam engine shots.  Wow actual working steam engines on the island with speeders, skeleton cars and a log dump  as well.  Just shows the treasures are out there.  
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Nov 7th, 2010, 11:08am
Some is a little rough but its fantastic to see this footage.  Thanks for the link.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 8th, 2010, 4:56pm
Has anyone been by Wellcox to-day to see what has come in on the barge?  I am hoping there is a string of pole cars for this end of the Island.  
Any news would be appreciated. I traveled to Nanaimo from Courtenay on the Budd Cat this past Saturday, there are 4 hoppers at Dunsmuir and 1 hopper at National Silicate.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Nov 15th, 2010, 12:48pm
Picked up a few snaps at the Trains show in Burnaby over the weekend.  Pretty sure that this shot of 6621 is at Victoria.  Can anyone confirm?  There's no date, name or location on the back of the photo.
Posted by: cn2220 Posted on: Nov 15th, 2010, 2:42pm
Sure looks like Victoria.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2010, 4:32pm
on Nov 15th, 2010, 2:42pm, cn2220 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Sure looks like Victoria.

I would say it is Victoria, the steam crane that was on Vancouver Island was numbered 414325, it being the piece of equipment that is to the left of 6621 in the picture. Great find. The crane is now located at the railway Museum at Prince George and was in operating condition, plus it was operating the day I was last there.
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Nov 15th, 2010, 10:12pm
Thanks guys.  I was 95% sure it was Victoria; what threw me was another photo I have seen of the Victoria shops with steam crane 414326 (yes, "six") --didn't know if two different cranes had been assigned to Victoria at different times.  Anyway, here's another picture I picked up at the same show.  Really no doubt about the location, now, is there?  Anyone know roughly when these two engines were at Victoria?
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Nov 15th, 2010, 10:25pm
Here's 6572 switching Victoria yard (looks like they're pulling the CP Express warehouse).
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Nov 15th, 2010, 10:33pm
Day is done; time to tie up on the shop track.  Don't know who took these photos, but my thanks go to the anonymous railfan who preserved this bit of Victoria's rail history for us to enjoy a few decades later.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 15th, 2010, 10:47pm
That's a great find, Dayliner! I've never seen photos of switching at the CP Express warehouse before, anybody know when they stopped receiving railcars?
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 16th, 2010, 1:44am
on Nov 15th, 2010, 10:12pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks guys.  I was 95% sure it was Victoria; what threw me was another photo I have seen of the Victoria shops with steam crane 414326 (yes, "six") --didn't know if two different cranes had been assigned to Victoria at different times.  Anyway, here's another picture I picked up at the same show.  Really no doubt about the location, now, is there?  Anyone know roughly when these two engines were at Victoria?

I think I remember a different crane being in Victoria, I will have to look thru my stuff and see if I can fiquire that out, the 414325 is the crane that was in Victoria last.
Posted by: vanislrailway Posted on: Jan 23rd, 2011, 5:33am
414325 was in Victoria around 1982.  It was doing scrap work on at least one car.  Made a mess of it in the slides that I have.  415815 was its tender.
 
Check out this old Mcmillan Bloedel video on youtube.  Makes the stories of steam logging come to life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoFWpKts6NYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DKmEqc_VOw[url]" target="_blank">[/url]
and part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DKmEqc_VOw[url]
Posted by: chrisale Posted on: Jan 23rd, 2011, 1:04pm
Here are those links again for anyone have trouble:
 
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoFWpKts6NY
 
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DKmEqc_VOw
 
Really cool stuff!  Thanks!  Amazing to see those old steam engines pulling those huge trains of HUGE logs.   Back when the trees were actually big enough to make more than 12 boards with.
Posted by: Firejackel Posted on: Jan 23rd, 2011, 2:59pm
Wow! Just awsome!
Posted by: torch Posted on: Feb 2nd, 2011, 9:56pm
For those not aware, Dve wilkie's son has posted many incredible e&n photos on his flickr account.  I strongly urge you guys to check it out. Here is the  link..feast your eyes:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/msdwilkie/
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Feb 10th, 2011, 1:05am
Tfctrains and I had reason today to reminisce about trackage north of Courtenay's 5th Street crossing.  After showing him this photo, he suggested it would be of interest on the forum.  Here it is, August 1975.  5th Street is between the sulphur unloading facility and the hopper in the distance.  The tracks do not cross 5th Street today.
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Feb 10th, 2011, 1:22am
on Feb 10th, 2011, 1:05am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Tfctrains and I had reason today to reminisce about trackage north of Courtenay's 5th Street crossing.  After showing him this photo, he suggested it would be of interest on the forum.  Here it is, August 1975.  5th Street is between the sulphur unloading facility and the hopper in the distance.  The tracks do not cross 5th Street today.

 
Thanks for the great photo! I have read about this facility in previous posts and was curious about what it may look like. Looks like there is another spur by 5th which branches to the right side of the photo.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Feb 10th, 2011, 2:02am
on Feb 10th, 2011, 1:22am, ENR3005 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Thanks for the great photo! I have read about this facility in previous posts and was curious about what it may look like. Looks like there is another spur by 5th which branches to the right side of the photo.

 
There does seem to be a something in the photo just to the left of the crossbucks resembling a switchstand.  It is even more convincing in the original scan.  Hurts my head, though.  Don't recall another spur.  Let's see what tfctrains has to say about this one!  
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 10th, 2011, 2:35am
on Feb 10th, 2011, 2:02am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
There does seem to be a something in the photo just to the left of the crossbucks resembling a switchstand.  It is even more convincing in the original scan.  Hurts my head, though.  Don't recall another spur.  Let's see what tfctrains has to say about this one!  

That was a long time ago, I really do not remeber one way or other, it sure looks like there is another spur. I will have to find my slide of 8000 at the end of track.
Posted by: torch Posted on: Feb 10th, 2011, 2:41am
wow! amazing shot!  any more from this era?
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Feb 10th, 2011, 9:05pm
wow that sure is rad to see! so correct me if I'm wrong but this transfer location was moved to bryn after it shutdown?? are there any pictures of the sulfur transfer at bryn?
Posted by: CN4019 Posted on: Feb 11th, 2011, 1:00am
Looking at that picture and then at Google street view, that is quite a bit on industry in a pretty compact area. Street view shows that the ENG sheet metal building still has it's Rail Door. It's interesting how many buildings up and down the line still have their rail doors intact, at least as late as 2008ish when the google street view cars were on the island. Small glint of hope there!
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Feb 11th, 2011, 8:47am
Modelling Courtenay reasonably accurate in 1988 would mean what when it comes to putting these industries in?
 
In other words, how much of this stuff was still there in '88?
 
Jon
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 2:50am
Some photo's taken of a Port Alberni Turn May 1990 CPR 3003, 5000, and 3002 taken at Parksville..
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 2:58am
on Feb 28th, 2011, 2:50am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Some photo's taken of a Port Alberni Turn May 1990 CPR 3003, 5000, and 3002 taken at Parksville..

I think this photo is at Mile 21.8 showing CPR 3003 heading west on the Port Alberni Sub. May 1990
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 3:04am
on Feb 28th, 2011, 2:58am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I think this photo is at Mile 21.8 showing CPR 3003 heading west on the Port Alberni Sub. May 1990

Nearing Port Alberni CPR 3003 will swith it's train of mostly empty cars for loads and head east on the Port Alberni Sub.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 3:10am
on Feb 28th, 2011, 3:04am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Nearing Port Alberni CPR 3003 swith it's train of mostly empty cars for loads and head east on the Port Alberni Sub.

Having picked loads in Port Alberni CPR 3002 is heading east at Mile 25. with 5000 and 3003 now trailing.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 4:12am
on Feb 28th, 2011, 3:10am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Having picked loads in Port Alberni CPR 3002 is heading east at Mile 25. with 5000 and 3003 now trailing.

 
 
Is that a U Boat I see in the middle?
Posted by: SRY1202 Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 4:22am
on Feb 28th, 2011, 4:12am, CN7059 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Is that a U Boat I see in the middle?

 
It is CP 5000. One of only two GP30's to be owned by the CPR.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 4:57am
on Feb 28th, 2011, 4:22am, SRY1202 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
It is CP 5000. One of only two GP30's to be owned by the CPR.

 
That's right. I just remembered that and refreshed the page to delete my post. The GP30 was certainly a unique looking locomotive.
Posted by: chrisale Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 11:45am
on Feb 28th, 2011, 3:04am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Nearing Port Alberni CPR 3003 will swith it's train of mostly empty cars for loads and head east on the Port Alberni Sub.

 
Is that Roger Creek trestle?
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 12:05pm
on Feb 28th, 2011, 11:45am, chrisale wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Is that Roger Creek trestle?

Yes, I think you are right, I wasn't sure last night when I posted the picture, looking at the mileposts I would say it is mile 37.7 which is Rogers Creek. It has been a while since we able to chase a frieght to Port Alberni and remember just where everthing is.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 4:03pm
One of my main regrets is not getting any photos of the Port Alberni Turn, followed it at night a couple of times, but no pictures. Great photos again, Frank!
Posted by: CPRail4744 Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 4:55pm
I think U-boats were a General Electric product...I think...
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 7:40pm
on Feb 11th, 2011, 8:47am, joncalon wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Modelling Courtenay reasonably accurate in 1988 would mean what when it comes to putting these industries in?
 
In other words, how much of this stuff was still there in '88?
 
Jon

 
ENR3005 may have done some research on just this topic for the E&N MSTS route he was working on. You might try PMing him.
Posted by: CN7059 Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 8:13pm
on Feb 28th, 2011, 4:55pm, CPRail4744 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I think U-boats were a General Electric product...I think...

 
Yes they were.  
 
Fun fact: the GP30 car body was styled by General Motors automotive stylists in Troy, Michigan. This was done because EMD wanted the locomotive to look "updated and modern".
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 11:44pm
Those are lovely shots.  The GP30 is certainly an eye catcher and product of its time styling wise.  I loved all the thrall all doors behind the engines.  We were cataloging equiptment here this weekend and my partner was asking about that style of car so its nice to be able to show her the real thing.
Posted by: cn2220 Posted on: Feb 28th, 2011, 11:53pm
on Feb 28th, 2011, 4:12am, CN7059 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Is that a U Boat I see in the middle?

 
I don't think CP had any GE's until the AC4400's.
Posted by: enr3004 Posted on: Mar 1st, 2011, 12:27pm
LOVE THE OLD CP pics
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Mar 1st, 2011, 9:10pm
on Mar 1st, 2011, 12:27pm, enr3004 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
LOVE THE OLD CP pics

 
2nded.
 
Post more.  
 
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2011, 10:07am
ive got a model of number 5000 its pretty cool to see a bunch of pictures of it on the island. there is a video some where on here of a cab ride and 5000 is in the set.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2011, 11:26am
on Mar 3rd, 2011, 10:07am, ENRFAN wrote:       (Click here for original message)
ive got a model of number 5000 its pretty cool to see a bunch of pictures of it on the island. there is a video some where on here of a cab ride and 5000 is in the set.

Yes I think Sidewinder posted a video on you tube of a trip we made together on a frieght train to Port Alberni, it may still be there. The cab's were quite small on a GP 30 compared to GP 9's, 35's and 38's.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2011, 4:18pm
on Mar 3rd, 2011, 11:26am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Yes I think Sidewinder posted a video on Youtube.

 
Yes, here is a link to one of the videos showing a GP30:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz0f4sCPso0
 
Enr3004 and Minionll made comment about scenes from the CP days.  Here is one from the days when a train would never show up at the diamond (Ladysmith) when the lighting was just right.  August 15, 1982
Posted by: SRY1202 Posted on: Mar 3rd, 2011, 6:57pm
on Mar 3rd, 2011, 4:18pm, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Yes, here is a link to one of the videos showing a GP30:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz0f4sCPso0
 
Enr3004 and Minionll made comment about scenes from the CP days.  Here is one from the days when a train would never show up at the diamond (Ladysmith) when the lighting was just right.  August 15, 1982

 
That photo is awesome! The lighting might not be what you would hope for, but it is still a fantastic photo. (It also helps that it is my favourite historic location on the line.)
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Mar 5th, 2011, 12:36am
on Mar 3rd, 2011, 6:57pm, SRY1202 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
That photo is awesome! The lighting might not be what you would hope for, but it is still a fantastic photo. (It also helps that it is my favourite historic location on the line.)

Awesome, you say.... that has a nice ring to it.
I would have to say it is my favourite location, too.  It certainly was a mecca for me when log trains pounded the diamond.  Royston would have been just as intriguing with the E&N, Comox Logging, and Canadian Collieries interchanging complete with a diamond crossing like Ladysmith but I never saw the area until only the E&N remained.  
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Apr 9th, 2011, 7:54pm
VIA RDC's in the Vic West roundhouse this afternoon:
 

 
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Apr 10th, 2011, 1:30am
Nice pics!
What staff was around when you stopped by?
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Apr 10th, 2011, 2:26am
on Apr 10th, 2011, 1:30am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Nice pics!
What staff was around when you stopped by?

 
Thanks Pyro! I saw 2 guys, I guess they were with Herzog, the company with the maintenance contract. It was sad being in there knowing that the RDC's will soon be gone for good and the roundhouse will be home to Starbucks type shops.
Posted by: canfor113 Posted on: Apr 10th, 2011, 4:24am
What is going on with the railroad? Is it really shutting down
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Apr 10th, 2011, 5:15am
on Apr 10th, 2011, 4:24am, canfor113 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
What is going on with the railroad? Is it really shutting down

 
It's been covered more in depth in other threads but basically VIA suspended service on the island because of poor track conditions. ICF has done some repairs but VIA says it isn't good enough. ICF claims they don't have enough funds for repairs and will need $15 million from the government to continue track and infrastructure repairs. If they don't get this money they said they will not be able to operate the railway anymore. Freight service hasn't been interrupted, but operates under slow orders on much of the line.  
 
The roundhouse and surrounding property has all been sold to a developer, regardless of what happens to the E&N, so the "working" roundhouse era is coming to a close anyways. The link below shows what is planned for the roundhouse.
 
http://www.bayviewresidences.com/roundhouse.html
 
Oh yeah, last month the Victoria Station was severed from the rest of the railway as the Johnson Street rail bridge was found to be structurally unsafe for the RDC's (and bikes, pedestrians.....) and the city won't be repairing it.
 
Thats what's going on as far as I understand it, if I made any errors please correct me! Things don't look good for the E&N at all, but you never know, anything can happen  
Posted by: canfor113 Posted on: Apr 10th, 2011, 3:33pm
Well if something does happen, would someone please let me know. Either if it's the railway shutting down, or the railway goes back into service. I think it's a good idea on what's happening to the roundhouse. I have always wanted it to get fixed up. I thought they were going to tear it down, but by the looks of it, i guess they are going to fix it up and build condos around it. At least they are going to keep the place standing, and keep parts of the roundhouse for i guess railway usage, and turn the section where there are no tracks into a restaurant. As long as it's getting fixed up, then i am happy. But if the railway and the budd cars get shut for good, then i am going to be really upset. If they shut everything down then, what are they going to do to the stations and the track, and the trains
Posted by: cycledude Posted on: May 13th, 2011, 5:08pm
This train left the station . . .
E&N Dayliner 30-second VIDEO
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Jul 8th, 2011, 5:56pm
Hey, we seem to have a new field in Vic West...  
 
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Jul 8th, 2011, 8:53pm
Maybe I should have mentioned that there are actually four (siding) tracks under the "field"!
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Jul 9th, 2011, 10:40am
on Jul 8th, 2011, 8:53pm, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Maybe I should have mentioned that there are actually four (siding) tracks under the "field"!

 
Amazing how quickly nature moves in when things aren't touched by humans...
 
Maybe that's why the mower is down there?
 
Jon
Posted by: SRY1202 Posted on: Jul 9th, 2011, 1:27pm
The mower was gone as of Thursday.
Posted by: emilydm Posted on: Jul 9th, 2011, 2:35pm
on Jul 9th, 2011, 1:27pm, SRY1202 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The mower was gone as of Thursday.

 
Did it do anything while it was in Victoria? I was wondering why it was there if they're not running any trains. In previous years, sometimes they liked to leave it in what's left of the Esquimalt siding.
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Jul 9th, 2011, 4:10pm
on Jul 9th, 2011, 2:35pm, emilydm wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Did it do anything while it was in Victoria? I was wondering why it was there if they're not running any trains. In previous years, sometimes they liked to leave it in what's left of the Esquimalt siding.

 
It was parked in the loop... and when I checked yesterday (after  it had gone) it looked like it had mowed a few yards of grass next to the loop (on the side away from the main tracks) I've no idea why. It seemed like a waste of time, and something that would have taken a few minutes to do.
Posted by: Chris_C Posted on: Jul 10th, 2011, 1:38am
Mower is parked at wellington siding as of Saturday
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Jul 21st, 2011, 1:22am
Came across this pic today that gave cause to reminisce!
 
A southbound freight, caboose and all, pulled into the Vancouver Island Gas spur, M73.4, to clear the main for the northbound Budd car.  February 22, 1986
Posted by: SRY1202 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2011, 2:14am
That spur looks quite interesting! Do you have any more pictures or info about it?
Posted by: ENR3005 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2011, 11:37pm

Aweseome shot Sidewinder!
 
on Jul 21st, 2011, 2:14am, SRY1202 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
That spur looks quite interesting! Do you have any more pictures or info about it?

 
Here is a thread with a couple of other photos. The grade down to the spur was really steep.
 
Chris
 
http://forums.railfan.net/forums.cgi?board=Vancouver;action=display;num=1193698520;start=5
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Jul 22nd, 2011, 12:19am
on Jul 21st, 2011, 11:37pm, ENR3005 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Aweseome shot Sidewinder!
 
 
Here is a thread with a couple of other photos. The grade down to the spur was really steep.
 
Chris
 
http://forums.railfan.net/forums.cgi?board=Vancouver;action=display;num=1193698520;start=5

Dang..... never thought to look for a specific thread.  Way back on page 10, yet!
 
I have a few more photos that could be posted.  Someone asked in the original thread about a photo of the trestle work supporting the propane cars.  That I have.  SRY1202, I will continue in the thread Chris remembered.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Aug 21st, 2011, 8:08pm
Sad to see tons of money being poured into the E&N Rail Trail while next to it the E&N main line gets swallowed up by the weeds:  
 
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Sep 5th, 2011, 1:54am
Who remembers Canadian Pacific's E&N steam train of the 80s and 90s?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6zatFvOuMk
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Sep 5th, 2011, 11:44am
on Sep 5th, 2011, 1:54am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Who remembers Canadian Pacific's E&N steam train of the 80s and 90s?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6zatFvOuMk

 
Great Video!  What year did CP start doing this project?
 
Also, from what I recall hearing, the steam worked well on broadleaf weeds, but the thin stuff (like scotch broom) didn't do anything.  In fact, odds are likely the steam actually Watered the stuff...
 
Jon
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Sep 5th, 2011, 1:00pm
One of those steam generator cars is still around, stored in the Revelstoke yard for the Revelstoke Railway Museum.  When I saw it, I wondered what it had been used for--didn't think of the E&N's "organic weed train"!
Posted by: railpuck Posted on: Sep 5th, 2011, 11:49pm
on Aug 21st, 2011, 8:08pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Sad to see tons of money being poured into the E&N Rail Trail while next to it the E&N main line gets swallowed up by the weeds:  
 

With all the tall dry grass, along the railway, SVI should cut it down, as it is a fire hazard, and they could become liable if property gets damaged by fire.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Sep 6th, 2011, 12:38am
on Sep 5th, 2011, 11:44am, joncalon wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
What year did CP start doing this project?
 
Also, from what I recall hearing, the steam worked well on broadleaf weeds, but the thin stuff (like scotch broom) didn't do anything.  In fact, odds are likely the steam actually Watered the stuff...
 
Jon

 
The late 80s is the best I can say.
 
Seems to me the process was effective for awhile anyway.
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Sep 6th, 2011, 12:41am
on Sep 5th, 2011, 1:00pm, Dayliner wrote:       (Click here for original message)
One of those steam generator cars is still around, stored in the Revelstoke yard for the Revelstoke Railway Museum.  When I saw it, I wondered what it had been used for--didn't think of the E&N's "organic weed train"!

 
Detective work at its best!  The paint has taken a beating over the years.
Posted by: missthealcos Posted on: Sep 9th, 2011, 8:38pm
Even better, that Via SGU you see on the weed killer train, wound up being purchased by CP, and after the weed train was done, eventually wound up as the Generator/tool car that runs around with 2816..but it's not easy to tell, since they attempted to make it look like a Silk car(which is what the 400900 you see here was built from, after having also been one of the first robot cars..now the last remaining silk car) with a curved roof, and side doors. I never could figure why they spent that money to mod it like that!!
 
The weed train was started in 88 I believe. That flatcar with the cab is also still kicking around, I think it's part of a CWR train now.
Posted by: CPR_9199 Posted on: Sep 10th, 2011, 4:31pm
All they needed was some tank cars full of vinegar to kill the weeds but I guess CP wanted to waste money.
 
Posted by: wx732 Posted on: Sep 10th, 2011, 8:46pm
I think the steam weedkiller train lasted until at least 96, because I can remember seeing one version or another of it at Esquimalt Stn.  I arrived out here early Aug, 1996...
 
James
Posted by: Dayliner Posted on: Sep 11th, 2011, 4:28pm
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which is what the 400900 you see here was built from, after having also been one of the first robot cars..now the last remaining silk car

 
Now that is cool--thanks for the backstory, missthealcos.  I'd figured it had been an old robot car; had no idea of its full history.
Posted by: ENRFAN Posted on: Sep 12th, 2011, 1:13am
Now that is some cool history. Sure would be neat to have a scale layout from the 80-to the 90-!
lots of good input on the Vancouver Island thread
Posted by: novabus9228 Posted on: Sep 16th, 2011, 2:29pm

I was lucky enough to be having lunch at the Burger king in Terminal Park Yesturday when the Locomotives passed northbound with 2 tanks around 1:20 pm.  I got on the next #9 bus for Country Club and saw the units were switching at Superior Propane
 
A short time later I did here the locomotives pass northbound, Through Country Clubb while I was in a store. I rushed out and crossed the highway and waited for them to return and managed to shoot a video. Now I know the secret, After leaving Superior, They must go north to the Double Tracks at Wellington (Closest) and Switch ends with the Tanks for the Southbound trip.    
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ALmX5f35-I&feature=channel_video_title
Posted by: Sidewinder Posted on: Sep 17th, 2011, 9:02pm
on Sep 16th, 2011, 2:29pm, novabus9228 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I rushed out and crossed the highway and waited for them to return and managed to shoot a video.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ALmX5f35-I&feature=channel_video_title

Your video brought back memories.  It prompted a search for a similar clip in my collection showing the same movement during the CP days.  It is part of this video.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOjrnxJZO1c
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Sep 17th, 2011, 10:49pm
on Sep 17th, 2011, 9:02pm, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Your video brought back memories.  It prompted a search for a similar clip in my collection showing the same movement during the CP days.  It is part of this video.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOjrnxJZO1c

 
great video! Amazing to compare the E&N then to what it is now.
Posted by: ACR204 Posted on: Sep 20th, 2011, 1:06pm
http://youtu.be/_4yAP-ES3SU
vid form you tube, showing 6133 on a train out east.
Posted by: chrisale Posted on: Sep 20th, 2011, 11:07pm
Worth noting just in case anyone gets bent out of shape, the video showing 6133 is from this time last year (2010)
Posted by: ACR204 Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2011, 5:58pm
Are these our poles on this train?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHsPSPpC-xo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Posted by: SRY1202 Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2011, 7:41pm
on Sep 23rd, 2011, 5:58pm, ACR204 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Are these our poles on this train?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHsPSPpC-xo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

 
 
Normally I would say yes, except for the fact that it's the Sumas turn, and there is a pole yard on it's route out of PoCo. If you watch one of Skeenapac's other videos (I believe it's #100) he catches the Sumas turn switching the pole yard in question. Also I think the island poles go back east, not into the US.
Posted by: cessna152towser Posted on: Sep 24th, 2011, 5:51pm
I have collected all my SRVI pics into the one set on Flickr:-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cessna152towser/sets/72157601572009718/
As a visitor to the island in 1987, 2009 and earlier this year it is interesting to compare the gradual changes over the years.  There is a then and now pair of shots at Qualicum Beach which clearly shows refurbishment of the station and tidying up of the ground around the station in 2009 but also shows how the ties had been allowed to rot between 1987 and 2009.
Posted by: novabus9228 Posted on: Sep 27th, 2011, 3:20pm
l Took another video of the locomotives passing Country Clubb Centre in Nanaimo Last Friday afternoon , Sept 23, and just uploaded it a few minutes ago.  This time they were pulling 3 tanks passing Southbound at about 1:55pm.
 
If you compare This new video with the one I took on Sept 15, you will notice the locomotives Switched ends.
 
Sept 23, video NEW with #119 in lead Southbound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUsz8SYKksY&feature=channel_video_title
 
Sept 15, video with #110 in the lead (previously Posted)
http://www.youtube.com/user/virailfan?feature=mhee#p/u/1/-ALmX5f35-I
 
 
 
Both videos were taken at approx the same location with the train going the same direction.
Posted by: ACR204 Posted on: Sep 28th, 2011, 12:54pm

Thanks!
 
on Sep 23rd, 2011, 7:41pm, SRY1202 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Normally I would say yes, except for the fact that it's the Sumas turn, and there is a pole yard on it's route out of PoCo. If you watch one of Skeenapac's other videos (I believe it's #100) he catches the Sumas turn switching the pole yard in question. Also I think the island poles go back east, not into the US.

Posted by: ACR204 Posted on: Oct 14th, 2011, 11:58am
I know not E+N related...but hey I made the video...and thought I would share it! All from an 850okm trip to Sault Ste. Marie and back this past June...hope you like!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMwSj1QdfHM
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 14th, 2011, 10:09pm
on Oct 14th, 2011, 11:58am, ACR204 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I know not E+N related...but hey I made the video...and thought I would share it! All from an 850okm trip to Sault Ste. Marie and back this past June...hope you like!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMwSj1QdfHM

A blast from the past, it's cold outside, time to look at old slides. A photo dated April 1975, taken on a bit of a railfan trip, Courtenay to the Kinsol trestle and back. We stopped anywhere that thought we might see something that had something to do with railways!
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 14th, 2011, 10:35pm
on Nov 14th, 2011, 10:09pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A blast from the past, it's cold outside, time to look at old slides. A photo dated April 1975, taken on a bit of a railfan trip, Courtenay to the Kinsol trestle and back. We stopped anywhere that thought we might see something that had something to do with railways!

Stepping a little further back in time to November 1974, I used to drag my wife and my two young sons along to take pictures of trains. Here we are in Victoria, I believe it was a Sunday morning. I think this train is # 51, lead by CP GP 9 8827, CP GP 7 8417 plus a CP Baldwin Switcher. The baldwin was a long to switch the Crofton Spur I believe.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 14th, 2011, 10:39pm
on Nov 14th, 2011, 10:35pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Stepping a little further back in time to November 1974, I used to drag my wife and my two young sons along to take pictures of trains. Here we are in Victoria, I believe it was a Sunday morning. I think this train is # 51, lead by CP GP 9 8827, CP GP 7 8417 plus a CP Baldwin Switcher. The baldwin was a long to switch the Crofton Spur I believe.

Same train heading for the Malahat, blasting thru Langford, note that the there are no ditch lights, plus there was a caboose at the end of the train.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 14th, 2011, 10:52pm
on Nov 14th, 2011, 10:39pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Same train heading for the Malahat, blasting thru Langford, note that the there are no ditch lights, plus there was a caboose at the end of the train.

 
That intersection sure has changed! Looks like 51 is really moving there.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 14th, 2011, 10:55pm
on Nov 14th, 2011, 10:39pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Same train heading for the Malahat, blasting thru Langford, note that the there are no ditch lights, plus there was a caboose at the end of the train.

Now to the other end of the line, my favorite locomotive of all time CP's Baldwin 8000 pictured at Courtenay.  This spot is now the end of track. In may 1973 there was another 1000 ft track + or -  where the chemicals etc were unloaded for the pulp mill in Gold River.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 14th, 2011, 11:02pm
on Nov 14th, 2011, 10:52pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
That intersection sure has changed! Looks like 51 is really moving there.

As I remember they were going at a good clip, my son who was three at the time is standing behind me right now. He wonders if the second unit is a GP 7 are your eyes better than mine. He also thinks the third unit is a road switch rather than a switcher. I will have to look thru more slides.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 14th, 2011, 11:12pm
on Nov 14th, 2011, 11:02pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

As I remember they were going at a good clip, my son who was three is standing behind right now. He wonders if the second unit is a GP 7 are your eyes better than mine. He also thinks the third is a road switch rather than a switcher. I will have to look thru more slides.

 
You're right, 8417 is a GP7 and the third unit is considered a road switcher. Can't wait to see more! Do you have any shots of the different customers being switched back then?
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 14th, 2011, 11:50pm
on Nov 14th, 2011, 10:55pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Now to the other end of the line, my favorite locomotive of all time CP's Baldwin 8000 pictured at Courtenay.  This spot is now the end of track. In may 1973 there was another 1000 ft track + or - where the chemicals etc were unloaded for the pulp mill in Gold River.

Moving right along in time to May 1975, here we are in Nanaimo. The train is pictured just south of the station. When I first looked at this picture I was not sure where it was because of the siding to the left. The last train I saw in the siding would have been in the 1975 I think, the Museum train was displayed in the siding, shortly after that the siding was removed.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 12:00am
on Nov 14th, 2011, 11:50pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Moving right along in time to May 1975, here we are in Nanaimo. The train is pictured just south of the station. When I first looked at this picture I was not sure where it was because of the siding to the left. The last train I saw in the siding would have been in the 1975 I think, the Museum train was displayed in the siding, shortly after that the siding was removed.
 
We are now at about MI 14.1 on the Victoria Sub, not the best photo but it does show the old CPR colors which I have always thought were the best of any railway company! Photo from July 1974.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 12:11am
on Nov 14th, 2011, 11:12pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
You're right, 8417 is a GP7 and the third unit is considered a road switcher. Can't wait to see more! Do you have any shots of the different customers being switched back then?

I did find a photo tonight of a Hydro transformer in the Dunsmuir Spur at mi 110.8 which I will try and post soon. Here is a photo of 7072 at Wellcox taken Nov 1980.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 12:21am
on Nov 15th, 2011, 12:11am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I did find a photo tonight of a Hydro transformer in the Dunsmuir Spur at mi 110.8 which I will try and post soon. Here is a photo of 7072 at Wellcox take Nov 1980.

Off to Port Alberni a photo from Nov 1975.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 1:30pm
on Nov 15th, 2011, 12:21am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Off to Port Alberni a photo from Nov 1975.
 
 Should be outside in the sun but having to much fun looking thru old slides. This photo was taken Sept 27,1982. It is at Mile 110.8 on the Victoria sub. This spur was put in for Hydro after protesters had blown up a transformer at Hydro's Dunsmuir Sub Station. This Spur is just north of the Big Qualicum River Bridge.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 1:42pm
on Nov 15th, 2011, 1:30pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 Should be outside in the sun but having to much fun looking thru old slides. This photo was taken Sept 27,1982. It is at Mile 110.8 on the Victoria sub. This spur was put for Hydro after protesters had blown up a transformer at Hydro's Dunsmuir Sub Station. This Spur is just north of the Big Qualicum River Bridge.

Wellcox Yard a photo taken Oct 2, 1982 showing the Scale House the scale itself was lettered for the Wellington Colliery Railway, I wonder where it is now. The caboose track to the left. Brings back memories of better times on he E&N.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 2:14pm
on Nov 15th, 2011, 1:42pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Wellcox Yard a photo taken Oct 2, 1982 showing the Scale House the scale itself was lettered for the Wellington Colliery Railway, I wonder where it is now. The caboose track to the left. Brings back memories of better times on he E&N.

Tsable River Trestle after it was rebuilt, showing one of the first trains to make the trip to Courtenay after the line was reopened. After the rebuilding of French Creek and Tsable River Trestle's. Sorry for the poor quality of the photo, it is not a Kodachrome slide plus not very well lit, it does show a train of the era.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 2:20pm
on Nov 15th, 2011, 2:14pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Tsable River Trestle after it was rebuilt, showing one of the first trains to make the trip to Courtenay after the line was reopened. After the rebuilding of French Creek and Tsable River Trestle's. Sorry for poor quality of the photo, it is not a Kodachrome slide plus not very well lite, it does show a train of the era.

The first Train to Courtenay after the line was reopened. I am not sure of the date.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 2:31pm
on Nov 15th, 2011, 2:20pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

The first Train to Courtenay after the line was reopened. I am not sure of the date.
Sorry for jumping all around. Just not enough time to post them all. This photo shows CP's 8006, 8007and I think 8008 after a head on collision. The date on the slide says June 1973.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 2:41pm
on Nov 15th, 2011, 2:31pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 Sorry for jumping all around. Just not enough time to post them all. This photo shows CP's 8006, 8007and I think 8008 after a head on collision. The date on the slide says June 1973.

As you can see from this photo it is not 8008 it is 8011 with 8008 behind it. That's all for now, more later when I have more time. I hope you enjoy these photo's from the past. Sorry the quality is not the best.
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Nov 15th, 2011, 10:26pm
Those are remarkable photo's and Im glad you posted them.  Its sad when an endangered species lose members but its a fact of life unfortunatly.  Considering what actually happened to them and forces involved, they actually came through better then some types would have.  Just makes me sad to see some of my favorite engines like that.  Thank you once again for posting them.
Posted by: joncalon Posted on: Nov 19th, 2011, 11:17am
on Nov 15th, 2011, 2:41pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

That's all for now, more later when I have more time. I hope you enjoy these photo's from the past. Sorry the quality is not the best.

 
No real apologies necessary...I'm sure I speak for a fair number of us here who "thank you very much" for both taking the photos when you did and then taking the time to scan and post them here.  Since time travel hasn't been perfected yet, it's photos like this which allow us to see stuff from the island when we weren't around.
 
Looking forward to more from your collection.
 
Cheers,
Jon
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Nov 19th, 2011, 6:12pm
on Nov 19th, 2011, 11:17am, joncalon wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
No real apologies necessary...I'm sure I speak for a fair number of us here who "thank you very much" for both taking the photos when you did and then taking the time to scan and post them here.  Since time travel hasn't been perfected yet, it's photos like this which allow us to see stuff from the island when we weren't around.
 
Looking forward to more from your collection.
 
Cheers,
Jon

 
 
I 2nd the above.
 
-Andrew
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 20th, 2011, 1:57am
on Nov 19th, 2011, 6:12pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
I 2nd the above.
 
-Andrew

Thanks Everyone, will try to get back at it early next week, I enjoy sharing the pictures from the past. It is almost like going back in time.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:21pm
on Nov 20th, 2011, 1:57am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Thanks Everyone, will try to get back at it early next week, I enjoy sharing the pictures from the past. It is almost like going back in time.

Taking the afternoon off. A photo from July 1981, showing some ballast cars waiting to get loaded at Fiddick's Pit.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:26pm
on Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:21pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Taking the afternoon off. A photo from July 1981, showing some ballast cars waiting to get loaded at Fiddick's Pit.

 A north bound Budd car at Trent River. I am not sure of the date, I think it is May 1983. Sorry for the branches sticking into the picture, just wasn't tall enough to reach them.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:30pm
on Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:26pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 A north bound Budd car at Trent River. I am not sure of the date, I think it is May 1983. Sorry for the branches sticking into the picture, just wasn't tall enough to reach them.

Love this photo of CP 7070 out on the Victoria sub doing some swithing north of Nanaimo.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:34pm
on Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:26pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 A north bound Budd car at Trent River. I am not sure of the date, I think it is May 1983. Sorry for the branches sticking into the picture, just wasn't tall enough to reach them.

 A photo from June 1977 showing the rebuilding of Tsable River Trestle looking north from the south approach.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2011, 9:50pm
on Nov 23rd, 2011, 7:30pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Love this photo of CP 7070 out on the Victoria sub doing some swithing north of Nanaimo.

 
That is a great photo! I didn't realize they used those switchers (S2?) around Nanaimo, I thought they were only used in Victoria. Did you note where these boxcars were coming from?
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2011, 10:12pm
on Nov 23rd, 2011, 9:50pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
That is a great photo! I didn't realize they used those switchers (S2?) around Nanaimo, I thought they were only used in Victoria. Did you note where these boxcars were coming from?

I am not sure where they are heading with the boxcars, maybe there is some one on here that can help us out. I know there was a spur just north of the station.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 2:12am
on Nov 23rd, 2011, 10:12pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I am not sure where they are heading with the boxcars, maybe there is some one on here that can help us out. I know there was a spur just north of the station.

A few more before I call it a night. A photo from July 1981, show a short freight heading south.  The freight is just south of Ladysmith passing the log cars used on the log haul from Lake Cowichan. I think it was near the end of the log haul.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 2:14am
on Nov 24th, 2011, 2:12am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A few more before I call it a night. A photo from July 1981, show a short freight heading south.  The freight is just south of Ladysmith passing the log cars used on the log haul from Lake Cowichan. I think it was near the end of the log haul.

Same train heading south, as you see not much has moved in or out of the siding.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 2:19am
on Nov 24th, 2011, 2:14am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Same train heading south, as you see not much has moved in or out of the siding.

 Now heading up the line. Pictured  a  short distance south of Courtenay moving right along, as you may see by the dust 9103 is kicking up. A photo from Aug 1978.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 2:23am
on Nov 24th, 2011, 2:19am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 Now heading up the line. Pictured  a  short distance south of Courtenay moving right along, as you may see by the dust 9103 is kicking up. A photo from Aug 1978.
A water tank on the E&N. Who can tell me where it is? A photo from May 1975.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 3:04am
on Nov 24th, 2011, 2:23am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 A water tank on the E&N. Who can tell me where it is? A photo from May 1975.
All though not a good photo, it shows what was still around to see in 1975. Does anyone know where it is at? Same tank as the previous photo.
 
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 3:09am
on Nov 24th, 2011, 3:04am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 All though not a good photo, it shows what was still around to see in 1975. Does anyone know where it is at? Same tank as the previous photo.
 
A favorite spot of mine near Stokes on the Alberni sub. A lot of weeks there was an Alberni Turn on Sundays, this worked well when I worked Monday to Friday.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 3:20am
on Nov 24th, 2011, 3:09am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 A favorite spot of mine near Stokes on the Alberni sub. A lot of weeks there was an Alberni Turn on Sundays, this worked well when I worked Monday to Friday.

A photo showing CP"s Baldwin switcher at Wellcox a photo dated Dec 1978.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 3:25am
on Nov 24th, 2011, 3:20am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A photo showing CP"s Baldwin switcher at Wellcox a photo dated Dec 1978.

Last one for this evening, showing a west bound Alberni turn at Loon Lake, a photo from Dec1978.
Posted by: thehighwayman Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 7:53am
on Nov 23rd, 2011, 9:50pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
That is a great photo! I didn't realize they used those switchers (S2?) around Nanaimo, I thought they were only used in Victoria. Did you note where these boxcars were coming from?

 
 
IIRC 7070 was a Baldwin.
 
Will
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 12:03pm
At idle 7070 was the only engine I ever met the could say its own number.  It sounded very like it was saying 70 70 over and over.  As memory serves it was a DS 4-4-1000 model.
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 1:47pm
I am going to say mile 19.6 Port Alberni sub.on Nov 24th, 2011, 2:23am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 A water tank on the E&N. Who can tell me where it is? A photo from May 1975.

Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 2:00pm
On the subject of water towers, does anyone know how many water towers there was on the E&N?  
These were the standard 20,000 gallon capacity like the one shown in Franks photo.
I have come up with a total of 23, that number includes both Port and Lk Cowichan subs. but i am sure there was more.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 2:30pm
on Nov 24th, 2011, 12:03pm, Piglet wrote:       (Click here for original message)
At idle 7070 was the only engine I ever met the could say its own number.  It sounded very like it was saying 70 70 over and over.  As memory serves it was a DS 4-4-1000 model.

 
Yes, I think you are right, I was trying to remember the designation last night. A friend of mine used to look after the engines at night both at Victoria and Nanaimo, we used to spend time with him. He also said that 7070 could say it's own number. Another interesting thing was after it had idling for a time if you were to increase the throttle setting any great amount, there would be a shower of sparks and smoke from the exhaust stack.
Any idea where the water tank is that I posted last.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 2:55pm
on Nov 24th, 2011, 1:47pm, hillbank wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I am going to say mile 19.6 Port Alberni sub.
 
Yes I think you are right Hillbank, not sure of the mileage as I can't find my list.
I think at one time this stop was called Arrowsmith, there is a picture of this spot taken by Leonard Frank. If you refer to page 54 in Robert Turner's Vancouver Island Railroads you will see a picture of the first passenger returning from Port Alberni stopped here.
This is kind of favorite spot of mine I have hiked there many times, a friend of mine's Dad was the Section foreman there for awhile in the early fifties. If you are there at the right time of the year there are still flowers that grow around the old foundation of the section house.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 24th, 2011, 3:02pm
on Nov 24th, 2011, 2:00pm, hillbank wrote:       (Click here for original message)
On the subject of water towers, does anyone know how many water towers there was on the E&N?  
These were the standard 20,000 gallon capacity like the one shown in Franks photo.
I have come up with a total of 23, that number includes both Port and Lk Cowichan subs. but i am sure there was more.

There was one in Royston just behind our house. The overflow from the tank used to supply us with water, when they removed the tank in the fifties, we had to dig a well.  The water for the water tank was gravity fed from a dam on Royston Creek.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 25th, 2011, 12:14am
on Nov 24th, 2011, 3:25am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Last one for this evening, showing a west bound Alberni turn at Loon Lake, a photo from Dec1978.

On with my offerings for this evening. Pictured at Shawnigan  CP 8636 South with a ballast train meeting the north bound Passenger Train.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 25th, 2011, 1:17am
on Nov 25th, 2011, 12:14am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

On with my offerings for this evening. Pictured at Shawnigan  CP 8636 South with a ballast train meeting the north bound Passenger Train.

 
Next I have for you a photo taken Nov 1980 of the Victoria Yard showing CP GP 9 8638 along with a caboose.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 25th, 2011, 1:20am
on Nov 25th, 2011, 1:17am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Next I have for you a photo taken Nov 1980 of the Victoria Yard showing CP GP 9 8638 along with a caboose.

Now off to Port Alberni, showing the yard switcher along with the engine house.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 25th, 2011, 1:25am
on Nov 25th, 2011, 1:20am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Now off to Port Alberni, showing the yard switcher along with the engine house.

A photo of Wellcox showing three Baldwin road switchers. Shortly after this photo was taken 8008 and 8007 were wrecked in a head on collision.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Nov 25th, 2011, 2:35am
on Nov 25th, 2011, 12:14am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

On with my offerings for this evening. Pictured at Shawnigan  CP 8636 South with a ballast train meeting the north bound Passenger Train.

 
 
Does this siding still exist?
 
Thanks for the great pictures.
Posted by: Speeder Posted on: Nov 25th, 2011, 9:05am
on Nov 25th, 2011, 2:35am, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Does this siding still exist?
 
Thanks for the great pictures.

 
 
I'm pretty sure that it does not. Now, I think after the Malahat siding, the next one is at Cobble Hill.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 25th, 2011, 11:37am
on Nov 25th, 2011, 9:05am, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
I'm pretty sure that it does not. Now, I think after the Malahat siding, the next one is at Cobble Hill.

You are right speeder it is gone. It was remove within a couple of years of that photo being taken. I remember being surprise after it was remove, I thought it was used quite a bit up to that point.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 25th, 2011, 1:12pm
on Nov 25th, 2011, 2:35am, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Does this siding still exist?
 
Thanks for the great pictures.

 Your Welcome, it gives me great pleasure to share these photo's. It brings back many good memories of the many trips I have made on the Dayliner with all the fine people that have crewed the trains on the E&N.
Posted by: hillbank Posted on: Nov 26th, 2011, 11:11pm
The siding at Shawnigan was 1416 ft and used to cross Renfrew Road, one of several "two track" crossings on the E&N it was lifted at the same time as the siding at Cowichan Station (1185 ft) in the early 80's  
There was also a wye at Shawnigan which was opposite the siding and the tail end of the wye crossed Shawnigan Lake Road and was still being used in the early 1960's but was taken out sometime before the siding.
I remember propane cars being stored there sometimes and MofW cars.
Another siding located at mile 24 was Wilby (not Willy) named after a CPR employee it was 1218 ft long and taken out probably around the same time as the wye.
 
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 27th, 2011, 8:10pm
on Nov 25th, 2011, 1:12pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 Your Welcome, it gives me great pleasure to share these photo's. It brings back many good memories of the many trips I have made on the Dayliner with all the fine people that have crewed the trains on the E&N.

A photo from June 1978 at Tsable River of the south bound passenger train.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 27th, 2011, 8:13pm
on Nov 27th, 2011, 8:10pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A photo from June 1978 at Tsable River of the south bound passenger train.

A photo of RDC 9103 at Nanaimo, BC on it's way north to Courtenay taken
 June 1978.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 27th, 2011, 8:17pm
on Nov 27th, 2011, 8:13pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A photo of RDC 9103 at Nanaimo, BC on it's way north to Courtenay taken
 June 1978.

CP'S Baldwin Switcher 7070 switching Wellcox Yard Nanaimo. June 1978
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 27th, 2011, 8:30pm
[quote author=tfctrains link=board=Vancouver;num=1069788329;start=1500#1516 date=11/27/11 at 20:17:59]
A photo showing CP GP9 8678 on a short freight, the slide says it is at Courtenay. It does not look like is to me, I think it might be Dunsmuir.
Posted by: SRY1202 Posted on: Nov 28th, 2011, 2:14am
Your photos are awesome TFC. I especially like the one of 7070 switching the trans-loading ramp, with the crew member riding the foot boards. You wouldn't see that today! I'm wondering if you ever caught any of the log trains that ran from Lake Cowichan, I've always been curious about that operation.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Nov 28th, 2011, 12:36pm
on Nov 28th, 2011, 2:14am, SRY1202 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Your photos are awesome TFC. I especially like the one of 7070 switching the trans-loading ramp, with the crew member riding the foot boards. You wouldn't see that today! I'm wondering if you ever caught any of the log trains that ran from Lake Cowichan, I've always been curious about that operation.

I also like the one of 7070 there is something very special about it, I remember the Geep 9's replacing the Baldwin's, things just weren't the same anymore. Something like the GE's replacing the SD 40's. I tried to get photo's of the log haul from Lake Cowichan was not too successful. I do have a few, has a come across them i will share them with all.
Posted by: Pyronova Posted on: Dec 1st, 2011, 3:28am
on Nov 27th, 2011, 8:13pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A photo of RDC 9103 at Nanaimo, BC on it's way north to Courtenay taken
 June 1978.

There's just something about the RDC and the "Hockey Mask" paint scheme......
Posted by: chrisale Posted on: Dec 10th, 2011, 9:52pm
A Youtube Video from the celebration in Port Alberni of the first E&N Passenger train coming into Port Alberni on December 20, 2011.  (Actual event was December 4th 2011 of course )
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_uh4OGnTY0
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Dec 29th, 2011, 2:53pm
New pole yard at Wellcox:

 
New pole yard loading ramp:  

 
Does anybody know if this auger is being used? Are they unloading grain or feed here?
Posted by: SRY 128 Posted on: Dec 30th, 2011, 12:53am
Fertilizer same as they have been hauling to Dunsmuir, the last couple years, now its unloaded at Welcox instead. A contract company for Timberwest uses it for areial fertilizing.
Posted by: vicguy Posted on: Dec 31st, 2011, 2:50am
on Dec 30th, 2011, 12:53am, SRY 128 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Fertilizer same as they have been hauling to Dunsmuir, the last couple years, now its unloaded at Welcox instead. A contract company for Timberwest uses it for areial fertilizing.

 
Thanks for the info, I didn't realize the fertilizer shipments were still coming. I remember reading in that E&N report that the E&N might one day exist solely as a transload operation at Wellcox, it seems like that is coming true.
Posted by: IHGB Posted on: Dec 31st, 2011, 3:02pm
I think this is because of track conditions(the transload).
 
Hopefully SRVI will put some money into roadbed repair as well as the provincial and federal governments.
 
And don't say "but they have been"!  
 
Minimal effort and expenditures does not count.
Posted by: SRY 128 Posted on: Jan 5th, 2012, 4:26pm
Wrong section to be talking about this, please discuss in the Rants, or in the Political section. This section is for Photos and Videos only. I have removed the posts.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 6th, 2012, 1:08am
on Jan 5th, 2012, 4:26pm, SRY 128 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Wrong section to be talking about this, please discuss in the Rants, or in the Political section. This section is for Photos and Videos only. I have removed the posts.

Talking about photo's here some 1978 and 1979, showing some of the CP's Budd Cars. Here is CP 9067 at Courtenay. This photo was taken shortly after a second Budd car was sent to Vancouver Island. The second car was sent after CP had applied to discontinue the passenger service. The people on Vancouver Island opposed the application and put up quite a fight. So many people started to use the service that 2 cars were required. You will also notice that CP 9067 has extra flags on the front of the car. People cried out for better service. Sunday service was started this being the reason for the extra flags. The train ran as an extra until the Timetable was changed to include the Sunday train. The date on the photo is Nov 1978. Notice that the parking lot was nearly overgrown and that there was parking for only a few cars. Within a short time the city of Courtenay improved the parking, planted flowers, paved the parking lot, plus made improvements to the platform.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 6th, 2012, 1:11am
on Jan 6th, 2012, 1:08am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Talking about photo's here some 1978 and 1979, showing some of the CP's Budd Cars. Here is CP 9067 at Courtenay. This photo was taken shortly after a second Budd car was sent to Vancouver Island. The second car was sent after CP had applied to discontinue the passenger service. The people on Vancouver Island opposed the application and put up quite a fight. So many people started to use the service that 2 cars were required. You will also notice that CP 9067 has extra flags on the front of the car. People cried out for better service. Sunday service was started this being the reason for the extra flags. The train ran as an extra until the Timetable was changed to include the Sunday train. The date on the photo is Nov 1978. Notice that the parking lot was nearly overgrown and that there was parking for only a few cars. Within a short time the city of Courtenay improved the parking, planted flowers, paved the parking lot, plus made improvements to the platform.

Here in Courtenay is Budd car 9064, photo from July 1979.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 6th, 2012, 1:15am
on Jan 6th, 2012, 1:11am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Here in Courtenay is Budd car 9064, photo from July 1979.

Budd Car CP 9064 is shown at Qualicum siding after hitting a rock near Green lake north of Nanaimo.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 6th, 2012, 1:21am
on Jan 6th, 2012, 1:15am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Budd Car CP 9064 is shown at Qualicum siding after hitting a rock near Green lake north of Nanaimo.

This photo is also from July 1979 you will notice that the Buckerfield's spur is still in place.
Posted by: SRY1202 Posted on: Jan 6th, 2012, 2:11am
on Jan 6th, 2012, 1:08am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Talking about photo's here some 1978 and 1979, showing some of the CP's Budd Cars. Here is CP 9067 at Courtenay. This photo was taken shortly after a second Budd car was sent to Vancouver Island. The second car was sent after CP had applied to discontinue the passenger service. The people on Vancouver Island opposed the application and put up quite a fight. So many people started to use the service that 2 cars were required. You will also notice that CP 9067 has extra flags on the front of the car. People cried out for better service. Sunday service was started this being the reason for the extra flags. The train ran as an extra until the Timetable was changed to include the Sunday train. The date on the photo is Nov 1978. Notice that the parking lot was nearly overgrown and that there was parking for only a few cars. Within a short time the city of Courtenay improved the parking, planted flowers, paved the parking lot, plus made improvements to the platform.

 
Are those freight cars I see sitting in behind the RDCs? I'm assuming that if it was a Sunday it was just the cars from the Courtenay turn, and not the actual movement its self?
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 6th, 2012, 10:48am
on Jan 6th, 2012, 2:11am, SRY1202 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Are those freight cars I see sitting in behind the RDCs? I'm assuming that if it was a Sunday it was just the cars from the Courtenay turn, and not the actual movement its self?

If my memory serves me well, I would think it was cars of forest fertilizer. The same thing that is being unloaded at Wellcox today. There used to be quite a number of cars come in at a time.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 7th, 2012, 12:37am
on Jan 6th, 2012, 10:48am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

If my memory serves me well, I would think it was cars of forest fertilizer. The same thing that is being unloaded at Wellcox today. There used to be quite a number of cars come in at a time.

A short freight at Courtenay slide is dated Nov 1978 with CP GP 9 8500.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 7th, 2012, 12:46am
on Jan 7th, 2012, 12:37am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A short freight at Courtenay slide is dated Nov 1978 with CP GP 9 8500.

A photo dated March 1979 showing a MoW train in the siding at Parksville, looks like there still could be water in the water in the water tank. I would also think that there would still be an operator based at Parksville with train order boards still in place.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 7th, 2012, 1:20am
on Jan 7th, 2012, 12:46am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A photo dated March 1979 showing a MoW train in the siding at Parksville, looks like there still could be water in the water in the water tank. I would also think that there would still be an operator based at Parksville with train order boards still in place.

A photo dated April 1979 showing CP GP 9 8530 with a low nose.
Posted by: MinionII Posted on: Jan 7th, 2012, 1:56am
I like them better with the high nose.  
 
 
Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 7th, 2012, 3:13pm
on Jan 7th, 2012, 1:56am, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I like them better with the high nose.  
 
 
Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Yes, I think I also like them with the high nose, it did give us something different to chase and get pictures of. I am not sure anymore but I think 8530 was the first GP 9 with a low nose installed.  
Here is a photo dated April 1979 of a high nose on GP 7 8424. CP 8424 was pulling into the siding at Ladysmith to clear the southbound Dayliner.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 7th, 2012, 3:28pm
on Jan 7th, 2012, 3:13pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 Yes, I think I also like them with the high nose, it did give us something different to chase and get pictures of. I am not sure anymore but I think 8530 was the first GP 9 with a low nose installed.  
Here is a photo dated April 1979 of a high nose on GP 7 8424. CP 8424 was pulling into the siding at Ladysmith to clear the southbound Dayliner.

We are at the Mud Bay Highway crossing, Extra 8669 is the first train north of French Creek in over a year. This photo dated Dec 1978 shows the Bridge Girders for the rebuilding of the Tsable River Trestle being pushed north to the bridge site.
The crew had just ran around it's train at Mud Bay siding.  
The girder's were originally  part of the Columbia River Crossing at Revelstoke.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 7th, 2012, 3:35pm
on Jan 7th, 2012, 3:28pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

We are at the Mud Bay Highway crossing, Extra 8669 is the first train north of French Creek in over a year. This photo dated Dec 1978 shows the Bridge Girders for the rebuilding of the Tsable River Trestle being pushed north to the bridge site.
The crew had just ran around it's train at Mud Bay siding.  
The girder's were originally  part of the Columbia River Crossing at Revelstoke.

I may have posted this one before, sorry if I have, this photo is dated Dec 1980. It shows the yard switcher at Port Alberni, as you may be able to see there is a propane unloading site to the left of the engine house.
Posted by: IHGB Posted on: Jan 7th, 2012, 4:59pm
You, sir, MUST publish a book!
 
Also if you have video must release a video as well!
 
You have an amazing collection!
Posted by: Piglet Posted on: Jan 7th, 2012, 8:50pm
I would have to seriously agree about the book idea.  You have a lovely collection of pictures of things I find bringing back many lovely memories.  I would be proud to have a copy in my collection.  
My partner says she would love it too but would love it autographed lol.
Posted by: novabus9228 Posted on: Jan 9th, 2012, 3:38pm
Yipee! I finally got a video of #128 Last Friday afternoon.  I first spotted #110 and 128 northbound just before 1pm bound for Superior Propane In Nanaimo with 3 tanks.  I was on a transit bus at the time but I got off at Terminal Park and waited for them to return.  Here is the video.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU6JQ4lmqnY&list=UUx9kgay-vvATOAnkTdeFPrw&index=1&feature=plcp
 
The video was shot about 1:52pm Last Friday.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 10th, 2012, 12:50am
on Jan 7th, 2012, 4:59pm, IHGB wrote:       (Click here for original message)
You, sir, MUST publish a book!
 
Also if you have video must release a video as well!
 
You have an amazing collection!

Thank you everyone, I have often thought about writing a book about the things I have seen and lived. Maybe if I live long enough. I do have some video that I will try and post. I do enjoy sharing my photo's with folks that enjoy seeing them. Vancouver Island was a great place to grow up. There was so much happening on the Island between the forties and eighties. Now it is just about development and the bottom line.
Tonight I will post a few more Budd car photo's from years gone by. Here is another dated July 1979. Showing 9064 in the siding at Qualicum with 9067 on the main heading north to Courtenay,
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 10th, 2012, 12:55am
on Jan 10th, 2012, 12:50am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Thank you everyone, I have often thought about writing a book about the things I have seen and lived. Maybe if I live long enough. I do have some video that I will try and post. I do enjoy sharing my photo's with folks that enjoy seeing them. Vancouver Island was a great place to grow up. There was so much happening on the Island between the forties and eighties. Now it is just about development and the bottom line.
Tonight I will post a few more Budd car photo's from years gone by. Here is another dated July 1979. Showing 9064 in the siding at Qualicum with 9067 on the main heading north to Courtenay,

I love taking photo's of trains in the snow, here is a photo dated Feb 1980 with 9064 trailing on a north bound train. The photo was taken near Royston.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 10th, 2012, 1:01am
on Jan 10th, 2012, 12:55am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I love taking photo's of trains in the snow, here is a photo dated Feb 1980 with 9064 trailing on a north bound train. The photo was taken near Royston.

A photo taken near Nanoose of 9103 and I would think 9064 on a Northbound passenger train climbing thru the twin loops on it's way to Parksville.
Posted by: tfctrains Posted on: Jan 10th, 2012, 1:03am
on Jan 10th, 2012, 1:01am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A photo taken near Nanoose of 9103 and I would think 9064 on a Northbound passenger train climbing thru the twin loops on it's way to Parksville.

Another in the snow showing a CP car with a Via car at Courtenay.