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torch
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« Reply #60 on: Aug 29th, 2017, 7:17am »
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Wednesday morning, July 11, 1990, northbound at Langford. Consist: gp38ac, gp35, one black CP boxcar, forty foot red E&N boxcar, two propane cars, fifty foot black gondola (didnt see the reporting marks), fifty foot brown ribside CP boxcar, water car and caboose.    By the way, for those unfamiliar with  the "water car"  it was an old modified canadian pacific 40 foot tank car used for spraying water on the tracks to help prevent fires caused by hot brake shoes in the summer months on the e&n.  Several different types of modifed tanks had been used including some made out of old steam loco tenders. Typically I mainly saw the standard old tank car variety. These were always placed right before the caboose.  Later in the 90s after caboose-less trains were the norm i would often see a hi-rail truck follow the northbound train. I  didnt see the water cars in use in the late 90s on the vic sub.

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« Reply #61 on: Aug 29th, 2017, 7:18am »
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Thursday, July 12, 1990. Southbound at Langford  Consist: gp35, gp38ac, government hopper, three propane cars, forty foot red CP boxcar, water car and caboose.

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« Reply #62 on: Aug 30th, 2017, 11:48pm »
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on Aug 29th, 2017, 7:08am, torch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Tuesday,July 3, 1990.  Evening southbound switched ICG propance and left with 12 cars,heres the consist:  gp38ac, gp35, fifty foot black CP boxcar, four propane cars, forty foot brown CP boxcar, fifty foot green BN  ribside boxcar, fifty foot black CP boxcar, fifty foot double plug door Red CP boxcar, fifty foot brown Southern double plug door boxcar, forty foot orange CP insulated boxcar and caboose.

 
Wow 7 boxcars...I wonder where they all were headed. Standard Furniture, Garden City, and Victoria Plywood I guess?


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torch
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« Reply #63 on: Aug 31st, 2017, 12:41am »
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on Aug 30th, 2017, 11:48pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Wow 7 boxcars...I wonder where they all were headed. Standard Furniture, Garden City, and Victoria Plywood I guess?

 At this time there was still a fair amiunt of boxcars being unloaded on the platform/ramp track in the Vic west yard in addition to the other spots you mentioned, as well as the ocassional car dropped at the Langford siding and E.H. pope.


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« Reply #64 on: Aug 31st, 2017, 2:24am »
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Yeah I do recall seeing the odd boxcar at the semi-covered platform that sat beside the last coach track in the yard. If I remember correctly, the end-loading ramp was at the end of the same track. Used to see some gondolas on that track as well. Not sure how they unloaded those...

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« Reply #65 on: Aug 31st, 2017, 5:34am »
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on Aug 31st, 2017, 2:24am, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Yeah I do recall seeing the odd boxcar at the semi-covered platform that sat beside the last coach track in the yard. If I remember correctly, the end-loading ramp was at the end of the same track. Used to see some gondolas on that track as well. Not sure how they unloaded those...

Yes,  ramp was on same track.. for loading military vehicles and whatever other miscellaneous wheeled loads there were.  Ive  also wondered how they unloaded the coke out of those gondolas too.  Im assuming a back hoe of some sorts.  For as many coke loads as i saw delivered I am surpised I never witnessed the unloading even once.


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« Reply #66 on: Aug 31st, 2017, 12:36pm »
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I've seen a video of a backhoe climbing into a gondola from track level, using a combination of the loader bucket and backhoe arm/bucket and a boat load of skill, maybe they did something along those lines...
Where was the floundry that coke was bound for? It wasn't VMD was it?


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« Reply #67 on: Aug 31st, 2017, 11:26pm »
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on Aug 31st, 2017, 12:36pm, MinionII wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I've seen a video of a backhoe climbing into a gondola from track level, using a combination of the loader bucket and backhoe arm/bucket and a boat load of skill, maybe they did something along those lines...
Where was the floundry that coke was bound for? It wasn't VMD was it?

Based on various reports Ive heard from others over the years it was Vic foundry. Back when i was out watching these trains I just assumed it was regular coal as thats what it appeared to be to me in my uneducated observation. Ive gone back into my notes and changed that detail to coke.


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« Reply #68 on: Sep 1st, 2017, 12:27am »
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Yes it was Victoria Foundry, there was a story in the T/C when they closed down, i remember most cars were either Norfolk and Western or Railgon.
Do recall the water cars as well. my favorite was the script lettered Canadian Pacific, the water cars were also spotted at some locations along the E&N the old Duncan shop track and Parksville are two locations i know of. the water cars were still used on the frieghts after the caboose was dropped but not for long. before the use of the hi-rail fire patrols that followed the frieghts speeders were used  and i sure miss thier unique putt putt sound.


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« Reply #69 on: Oct 17th, 2017, 2:06pm »
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on Sep 1st, 2017, 12:27am, hillbank wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Yes it was Victoria Foundry, there was a story in the T/C when they closed down, i remember most cars were either Norfolk and Western or Railgon.
Do recall the water cars as well. my favorite was the script lettered Canadian Pacific, the water cars were also spotted at some locations along the E&N the old Duncan shop track and Parksville are two locations i know of. the water cars were still used on the frieghts after the caboose was dropped but not for long. before the use of the hi-rail fire patrols that followed the frieghts speeders were used  and i sure miss thier unique putt putt sound.
If these were N&W cars then it was probably a good grade of coal being brought in for whatever purpose. The Western Virginian and Southern Pennsylvania coal mines had super low sulfur coal and was in high demand for steel making where I worked back there in Ontario. The lower the sulfur the higher the cost of the coal.  
Thanks for the posts.


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« Reply #70 on: Nov 28th, 2017, 12:00am »
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This thread has been a wealth of information - any more out there? Interested in the 1989 - 1992 timeframe

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« Reply #71 on: Jan 11th, 2018, 11:23pm »
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Back at it with more 1990 reports!   Wed, October,11, 1990,  Northbound freight at Langford around 11;30 am.  I didn't write down the exact consist as I was more excited about the weed steaming train that was following.  Anyhow the freight consist was only jotted down as "several tanks (i assume propane), a few boxcars and caboose" (and I would safely assume lead by a couple of GP38s or 35 units).     I wrote down loosely about the weed steaming train after I saw it around 12 pm by thetis lake overpass... but the details are not particularly vivid.  Didn't get the engine number other than remarking that it was a low nose gp9.. we've all seen the weed train consist as it has been depicted on this forum many times. The loco was in the middle of the consist while the train was being piloted in the makeshift 'control cab car in the lead (a modified cp flatcar with a small,crude quarters for engineer and conductor and of course the controls which i assume were remote.  I watched and paced it on my bike from Atkins road up into Langford.  It sure seemed to attract onlookers.

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« Reply #72 on: Jan 11th, 2018, 11:28pm »
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Friday, December 7th, 1990, Morning  northbound freight at Langford.   Power was gp35 #5020, gp30 #5001 and gp35 #5014.   I was so excited about seeing the gp30 that I didnt write down more details about the trains consist other than "a few propane tanks,insulated boxcar (cp?), an ex mnj boxcar, a gov hopper and caboose".  I wrote down how I was hoping i would see the gp30 unit on the next southbound train, Sunday.

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« Reply #73 on: Jan 11th, 2018, 11:36pm »
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Monday,December 10th, 1990 , Northbound freight at View Royal .  Waited for the train near Vic Plywood mill.  Train arrived around 11 am after switching Superior propane. There was twelve empty boxcars on the View Royal siding.  The train spotted one of the 50 foot cp boxcars itno the millspur .  I left before it finished its work there so I could catch it down by Thetis lake overpass, Atkins road.     Power was gp35s numbered 5020 and 5014.  Train consist was  CN fifty foot plug door boxcar, fifty foot high end NW gondola, a few propane tanks, 2 government grain hoppers and caboose..  Train ran by at track speed.

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« Reply #74 on: Jan 11th, 2018, 11:40pm »
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Tuesday, December 11th, 1990, 10 pm  southbound freight at Langford,after switching ICG propane. . gp35s #5020,5014,   40 foot brown cp box, eight propane tanks, railbox boxcar, 50 foot brown cp  ribside boxcar and caboose.

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« Reply #75 on: Jan 11th, 2018, 11:43pm »
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Wed, December 12th, 1990. Morning northbound at Langford.    gp 35 Units # 5020, #5014 and sw8 #6701,  two fifty foot CN boxcars, eight propane tanks, one gulf & mobile boxcar and caboose.

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« Reply #76 on: Jan 11th, 2018, 11:47pm »
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Thursday, December 13th, 1990... 'the beginning of the end" ..... Southbound evening freight at Langford.   gp35s #5014 and #5025, one gov. hopper, one propane tank, one fifty foot boxcar and   NO caboose.   Now replaced with a FRED.  (flashing rear end device).  This was the first cabooseless train I had witnessed on the E&N other than some yard limit movements by switchers.

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