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Dennis Dalla-Vicenza

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« on: Dec 5th, 2016, 10:14pm »
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I wonder at the possibility of a private for profit company applying to take over the E & N and operate it as a business instead of a way to successfully augment your retirement funding. The possibility of a private sector takeover is not that far removed from reality. If such were to emerge from the abyss of the ICF continuing screwup I wonder at how much support there would be out there for the takeover.
 
The Government authorized mismanagement of the ICF has just about ruined the rail possibilities for the Island and I believe we should be actively pursuing the eventuality of private for profit funding. There are railroads that operate for passenger service (commuter?) during the day and then hauling freight at night to pay for the service in total. Breaking even on commuter would be OK if your second shift makes you money.
 
The only problem I can think of is the lack of a transfer facility for the potential freight. Twenty two years ago we had a plethora of freight offload / reload places in and around the CRD. Now there are none so enticing freight would require some active marketing and a huge facility for the material transfer. Is there such a location within siding installation of the E & N?
 
Would you support such an entity or are we always going to be hung up expecting a continuation of the 'sucking on the teat of government' that so many on these rail lists propose. Of course with a private operator we would have to see a change in the situation and the SVI would become history. It would be nice to hear the rails singing to the activity of long haul freight.


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« Reply #1 on: Dec 7th, 2016, 2:03pm »
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Interesting idea, I think any help, whether it's the public or private sector would be greatly helpful. The thing with freight into the CRD, the bridges on the malahat and in the Cowichan valley would have to be doubt with first

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« Reply #2 on: Dec 9th, 2016, 3:01pm »
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The idea of anything having to be dealt with first is not lost on private developers. Hell the railroad was built by a private developer for cash and bribes. The E & N as it now stands is exactly where the CP wanted to place it 20 or so years ago, at a complete standstill. Pretending barge movement is rail movement is absurd at best.
 
The SVI as operator has contributed nothing to the picture because they are in it for the cash grab that non rail people on the ICF has allowed to happen. A private developer would be one that looks at all costs and constraints and sees ways of making money by pai8ring the costs and overcoming constraints. Sitting in a board room ignoring the concerns of the people want rail service is not overcoming anything but retirement expenses.  
 
We have to get beyond the constant disaster the ICF has become and start actively pushing for dissolvement of the charter the ICF members operate under and turning the railroad over to a real operator.  
 
Ten years ago the ICF was making noises about rebuilding the Port Sub for freight revenue and we see how far that's gotten. Can you imagine what the line would be now if the EETG were not out there doing what they do? As it stands now the ICF have put an identity (IHS) in charge of the Port Sub and these people couldn't organize a one car funeral on one way street.  
 
What we need out there is competence and we are not served wll by any of the above at the moment; excepting of course the EETG.


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« Reply #3 on: Dec 11th, 2016, 9:40pm »
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Likely too many fingers in the political pot to make this attractive to any potential private operator, seriously who would want to put up with this type of BS. Like I have mentioned before, way too many entities with hidden agendas to make anything work. Nobody can agree on anything. You take all of this away, than just maybe somebody would be interested. We could all dream that someone like Watco step in with a sound business plan but that won't happen with the current group struggling for the scraps that are left over of a once great railway.

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