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New TSA reached! Service starting in Nanaimo! Track work 9mos
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Dennis Dalla-Vicenza

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« Reply #60 on: Apr 7th, 2017, 7:48pm »
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on Apr 7th, 2017, 8:32am, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Crofton - Lodge Members -
 
SIGH! Seasoned lawyers and barristers often use a phrase, "Pyrrhic Victory". Useful way of stating matters?
 
A vital issue otherwise? Where's the freight? Absent solid cargo hauls, where funds to support continuing  
overheads of costs of plant? Just another bill to pay for Nanaimo area taxpayers? (Old movie. Wake me when  
it is over.)
 
..................  Vern  .................

Vern old buddy, you forgot the obligatory YAWN!!!!


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« Reply #61 on: Apr 8th, 2017, 12:37am »
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When I read this statement by chrisale in another thread, Quote:
The railways future will be in a healthy mix of freight, passenger and commuter traffic.
I could hardly think of a polite response and still can't.  If there is a railroad in North America operating with a positive cash flow from passenger and commuter service, particularly commuter service, let me know.  Therefore, if such a mix is considered healthy financially, I don't see how, unless you are looking at the 1920's or earlier.
 
The only commuter service that I can think of that has ever been profitable in my now 70 plus year lifetime was that of the Chicago and Northwestern into Chicago and that was quite a few years back.  One of the commenters in the the trade press about it ran like, "It is like watching a hippopotamus do ballet.  It is not that it does it so well, but that it is able to do it at all."


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« Reply #62 on: Apr 8th, 2017, 11:36pm »
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Moonbeam would do well in California. He can outweird the weird found there.

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« Reply #63 on: Apr 8th, 2017, 11:58pm »
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on Apr 8th, 2017, 11:36pm, Dennis Dalla-Vicenza wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Moonbeam would do well in California. He can outweird the weird found there.

I don't know about your weird sufficiently to argue.  However, if they are anywhere close to each other my recommendation would be that the response of all people potentially affected should be the same as in the following redneck joke:
 
When the guy says, "Here, hold my beer and watch this," you should run to put as much distance between you and him as possible as those are likely to be his last words and the last life experience for anyone near him.  


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« Reply #64 on: Apr 9th, 2017, 8:31am »
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Background for readers? A search helpful for BEN HEINEMAN Obituary - Chicago, IL | Chicago Tribune
 
The ca. 1960 experience at C&NW and its commuter system, unique to Chicago. It needed much work, prior his  
arrive at the railroad. Many of the service runs held down system schedules with second hand rolling stock, no  
longer needed on C&NW "400" intercity network. Also, much older, nearly archaic commute service coaches.  
More, many Chicago commute runs with steam power...
 
Yes, yes! With Heineman, C&NW acquired a large order of the bi-level commute cars. The steam power ended,  
as more Diesel units moved from ending "400" services. The trade press impressed, and all of it with much good p.r.
 
Whether it actually yielded net returns? It would take some forensic accounting to check just how much magic and  
finance came into play. Ledger sheets can tell any story wished by the client? (Related, in the era, it the accounting  
work which Lou Menk used to shut down the CB&Q "Zephyr System" operations.)
 
...................  Vern  ....................


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« Reply #65 on: Apr 9th, 2017, 6:13pm »
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Vern et al,
 
Rode the Westshore route trains ex Chicago via West Allis bound o football games numerous times. I preferred the sway of the old heavyweights but didn't get the two tiered system use until GO in the Toronto / Burlington runs for a couple years when we were traded from the home company to the competitor to gauge differences in material metallurgical practices between the companies.  
 
When you look at the train traffic into and out of Canada's largest city you see it has doubled since I regularly used it but on the flip side the highways which we about 6 lanes in each direction are now upwards of twenty in each direction depending on what you call express, feeder and collectors. If Toronto was to go 100% commuter rail tomorrow the workings would come to a standstill; something totally lost on the minions of today.  


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« Reply #66 on: Nov 12th, 2017, 2:20am »
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This thread is a great comic relief. Its been 1320 days since this big announcement and we are still going nowhere fast. Makes me so happy I had the OP pegged for a BK all those years ago.  

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« Reply #67 on: Nov 17th, 2017, 10:05pm »
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It is indeed quite silly. Almost as much as the "E&N Track Work" thread.

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« Reply #68 on: Apr 2nd, 2018, 7:25pm »
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Four years people; four years. And yet the OP still supports the status quo.  

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« Reply #69 on: Apr 2nd, 2018, 10:59pm »
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Lacking in the critical thinking skills department .

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« Reply #70 on: Apr 3rd, 2018, 12:45am »
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Caused me to go take a look.  Found that is has been near 2 years since the "OP" (Chrisale) has had anything to say here, here being the forum overall, not just this thread.  Reminded me of his stance on the Raven coal mine project, which I assume is now dead, along with the potential jobs that would go with it, and the potential positive effect on balance of payments if the coal were to be exported.  Some people would not recognize day to day reality if it fell on them.
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Four years people; four years. And yet the OP still supports the status quo.  



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« Reply #71 on: Apr 5th, 2018, 6:46pm »
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Sad that he and his two cohorts were able to bamboozle the Island into believing Raven was a bad idea. Too easy for the government to have just shut them up and let the already stringent environmental rules be brought into play. All the grandstanding done by this uninformed group has caused enough problems for the railroad and its plans to go ahead. The fact that he didn't understand the coal qualities were a derivative of their worth and not really the end uses was really too bad as his choice not to believe probably killed what little chance the railroad had to remain in operation.  
 
SVI was on record as being supportive of rebuilding the trestles to get the coal to Port Alberni and to put sidings into place to access the coal loads. He also thought that Raven should have built the spurs to get the trains to them which also showed he knew nothing about how a railroad works. Three fools pushing an agenda has killed numerous jobs at both ends and along the railroad.  


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