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« on: Jan 8th, 2013, 4:41pm »
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Vessel Monitoring  
 
Any vessel carrying an AIS system can be traced in real time using http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/
 
Seaspan's rail barges do not have an AIS system attached, instead we watch for Seapan Tugs spending time at the Annacis Island Marine Terminal (AMT) and then mooring at rail barge facilities.  
 
Issues with the system - sometimes timing may be off up to a few hours, but it is relatively accurate in terms of position.  
 
(see attached image of Seaspan Corsair sitting at Harmac rail slip)
 
 
Webcams:
 
So far the only camera we have found facing any terminal is the NavCanada Nanaimo Water Aerodrome South facing camera. While it cannot see the dock directly, it can see the barges being positioned upon arrival and departure.
 
Nanaimo (Wellcox)  -  Aimed slightly east of barge slip  
http://www.metcam.navcanada.ca/hb/player.jsp?id=43&cam=99&lang=e
  
If you do find another one please post it up and we will add it to the list!
 
 
Current "Schedule"
 
Wellcox:
 
Vessel: Seaspan 930
Date: Monday
Arrival: ~7:00AM
Departure: 10 - 11AM  
 
 
Harmac:
 
Vessel:  unconfirmed (Seaspan 930 or 931)
Date: As needed
Arrival: ~7:00AM
Departure: 10 - 11AM  
 
 
Crofton:
 
Vessel:  unconfirmed (Seaspan 930 or 931)
Date:  As needed?
Arrival:  
Departure:  
 
 
Port Alice
 
Vessel: Seaspan 940
Date: As needed
 
 
 
Port Mellon: (Sunshine Coast)
 
Vessel: (Seaspan 930 or 931)
Date:Wednesday (As needed?)


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« Reply #1 on: Jan 8th, 2013, 6:32pm »
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Anyone wanting to watch on Marine Traffic  -  the Seaspan Monarch just will be leaving AMT headed for Port Alice in the next little while.  
 
The Seaspan Corsair is just headed up the Fraser towards AMT to unload after its trip from Harmac.


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« Reply #2 on: Jan 9th, 2013, 12:47am »
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Great Idea!  Hey, maybe we could convince Southern/Seaspan to install webcams on their rail slips.  Even if it was just Welcox and AMT, I'm sure they'd find it useful and we'd have a blast with it.

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 14th, 2013, 12:18am »
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looks like the Seaspan Pacer is at AMT right now - destination is crofton? but we will see

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« Reply #4 on: Jan 14th, 2013, 11:59am »
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Seaspan Pacer just arrived at the Wellcox slip from AMT ~ 8:40 am this morning

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 14th, 2013, 5:35pm »
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Departure at around 2:30

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« Reply #6 on: Jan 14th, 2013, 5:47pm »
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Departure at around 2:30

 
Nice catch!


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« Reply #7 on: Jan 14th, 2013, 6:01pm »
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It is really too bad it isnt closer to the Gabriola ferry terminal... then at least we could see what is on it !

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on Jan 14th, 2013, 6:01pm, Chris_C wrote:       (Click here for original message)
It is really too bad it isnt closer to the Gabriola ferry terminal... then at least we could see what is on it !

 
I was reading earlier about this new website that will be like Google Earth - except that the images will be 1/2 hr to 3 hours old! It's not online yet but hopefully soon.


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« Reply #9 on: Jan 15th, 2013, 1:07am »
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Is it a pusher type barge or a pull?

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« Reply #10 on: Jan 15th, 2013, 1:52am »
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Its a pull style  
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64281842@N08/7957794270/


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« Reply #11 on: Jan 15th, 2013, 3:18am »
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Ahh.  Ok, thanks.

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Found the Seaspan 930 on google earth - North Vancouver shipyards on 8/4/2008th
 



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« Reply #13 on: Jan 17th, 2013, 3:39pm »
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Wow!
 
Those webcam shots make me feel walleyed for some reason.


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I've been watching the railbarge movements on Marinetraffic.com and noticed  that Seaspan Corsair hauled a railbarge from the mill in Powell River to Crofton, and then back again. Does anybody know why they would do this? I didn't think this was done but do the mills swap cars back and forth?  
 
I also noticed this railbarge moored in North Van at Seaspan, thought it was interesting that it had 2 cars still on it:


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on Jan 18th, 2013, 3:12pm, vicguy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I've been watching the railbarge movements on Marinetraffic.com and noticed  that Seaspan Corsair hauled a railbarge from the mill in Powell River to Crofton, and then back again. Does anybody know why they would do this? I didn't think this was done but do the mills swap cars back and forth?  
 
I also noticed this railbarge moored in North Van at Seaspan, thought it was interesting that it had 2 cars still on it:

I am quite sure at one time recycled paper was moved from Powell River to Port Alberni by rail, it was around the time that E&N Railfreight was created,


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« Reply #16 on: Jan 18th, 2013, 5:38pm »
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I am pretty certain the pulp mill at Port Alberni was receiving it's recycled pulp from the former Newstech de-inking plant in Coquitlam. The mid-nineties did seem to be when the E&N added this business and it certainly gave them some good westbound revenue tonnage to Port Alberni.

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That barge at vancouver ship yards is the seaspan 902 it is retired from service but it Has Mr Washingtons personal train cars on it to be rebuilt.if you get a chance or maybe google earth Mr W has a couple of heavywieght passenger cars being rebuilt for his personal use at the washington yatch facility just east of vancouver dry dock they are under tarps ,but they look unreal ,he should rebuild the via budds.

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the cars in the picture are not his personal cars but that is what it is used for now

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on Jan 19th, 2013, 10:30am, capt wrote:       (Click here for original message)
That barge at vancouver ship yards is the seaspan 902 it is retired from service but it Has Mr Washingtons personal train cars on it to be rebuilt.

 
Thanks, I was wondering which barge it was. Must have been recently retired as in that photo it has regular cars on it.


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