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« Reply #47 on: Oct 25th, 2007, 9:18pm »
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Glad to see these pics - brings back memories.  I was able to scrounge several rides with the CN yard crew but never had the sense to take photo's as "there's always tomorrow"

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« Reply #48 on: Oct 25th, 2007, 11:41pm »
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CN had quite a bit of trackage and sidings between the Selkirk trestle and Johnson Street bridge! I wonder how many customers they served there at its peak? I was also wondering how often the CN/E&N interchange got used when CN had its own barge service, and what would have been interchanged? I like the fact that CN had an "upper yard!"  
I'm looking forward to the next set, cause I can see the BCFP mill ahead!
 
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« Reply #49 on: Oct 26th, 2007, 12:20am »
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Nice pics. The CN yard was definitely bigger than the E&N yard.
What year did Johnston Terminals stop using rail service? I think i was located a few blocks before the TCH crossing. Why did CN stop serving them? There are shots in 1977 showing long trains going across the selkirk trestle.


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« Reply #50 on: Oct 26th, 2007, 2:43am »
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I was curious about the track arrangement in photo 32. I assume that it has something to do with the lift span, but it seemed odd to me, and I've never seen anything like it before.

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I was curious about the track arrangement in photo 32. I assume that it has something to do with the lift span, but it seemed odd to me, and I've never seen anything like it before.

 
Almost look like derails.


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« Reply #52 on: Oct 26th, 2007, 5:45am »
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goose,  please tell me that ya  have fotos of the trackage around alfa street with the spur(s) there.. I always used to see BN boxcars on a spur around there...just south of johnston terminals.

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« Reply #53 on: Oct 26th, 2007, 8:22am »
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Hi Torch,
 
Yep, Alpha St. area will be in the next segment.


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on Oct 26th, 2007, 3:26am, CrashNational wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Almost look like derails.

 
Derails on a bridge? How safe is that?


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on Oct 25th, 2007, 9:12pm, Goose5 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
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What you are seeing here is a home made rail expansion joint.  The objective is to make sure that longitudinal movement of the rail under the photographer does not result in any movement of the rail beyond these switch points.  I would hope that this is a very slow speed track.  If I were building this thing, I would have a guard rail, like you have opposite a frog adjacent to the other rail opposite the point end of each of these switch blades.  
 
Definitely not a derail.  There is nothing to open the switch point.
 
However, in quite a few locations there are derails in advance of drawbridges.  The idea being that a train bouncing along the ties will stop before going off the end or running into the draw span.   The inside guard rails as seen in the picture keep the train from going off the side of the bridge.  It is the concept that a derailed car sitting on the ties is better than a car in the water.  
 
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What you are seeing here is a home made rail expansion joint.  The objective is to make sure that longitudinal movement of the rail under the photographer does not result in any movement of the rail beyond these switch points.  I would hope that this is a very slow speed track.  If I were building this thing, I would have a guard rail, like you have opposite a frog adjacent to the other rail opposite the point end of each of these switch blades.  
 
Definitely not a derail.  There is nothing to open the switch point.
 
However, in quite a few locations there are derails in advance of drawbridges.  The idea being that a train bouncing along the ties will stop before going off the end or running into the draw span.   The inside guard rails as seen in the picture keep the train from going off the side of the bridge.  It is the concept that a derailed car sitting on the ties is better than a car in the water.  
 
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Definitely not a derail.  There is nothing to open the switch point.

 
I can see a tab off of the point on both rails.  
 
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However, in quite a few locations there are derails in advance of drawbridges.  The idea being that a train bouncing along the ties will stop before going off the end or running into the draw span.   The inside guard rails as seen in the picture keep the train from going off the side of the bridge.  It is the concept that a derailed car sitting on the ties is better than a car in the water.  

It looks like there is a set of these interesting 'points' in both directions on either side of the lift span.  I wonder if lifting the bridge actuates the derail function if it exists.     I can't find my Last Runs video right now, but isn't there a is a video of the guy hand cranking the span up;  maybe it would show the points opening as well?  ?  ?  ?


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« Reply #58 on: Oct 26th, 2007, 4:16pm »
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I can remember examining the mechanism several times.  There wasn't any connection to the points on either side (and in fact impossible with the BCFP side)
 
Also there is not mention of any derail feature in the employee timetable.  As this was considered a main track (even though it was in yard limits) there would be mention of it if a derail feature existed.  My money is on the expansion joint.


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I can see a tab off of the point on both rails.

I saw this tab in the picture also and wondered about it.  My best guess at this point is that it is a brace to be sure that the point does not move inward when the rail leading into it moves.  Based on CP8673's post also, this appears to be correct.  
 
I stll say these points need a guard rail opposite them.  If not a derail, the center of the guard should be about opposite the point.  This is only a concern for the facing move.  You don't have to worry about guarding the trailing move.


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