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Jason King
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« Reply #140 on: May 28th, 2009, 1:14am »
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On a somewhat related note, check out this amazing film from 1907 shot from the front of a streetcar as it travels down Douglas, then Yates, and finally Government Street to the still under construction Empress Hotel.
 
Later on, you can see an earlier version of the Pt Ellice Bridge followed by the second gem of the footage, a passenger train steaming into Victoria across the original Johnson Street Bridge.
 
Amazing stuff.
 
http://unknownvictoria.blogspot.com/2008/01/harbecks-1907-film-complete.html
 
There's a higher quality version of just the streetcar footage here:
 
http://web.uvic.ca/~meleisao/AViewofVictoria/vic_video/the_ride.html
 
Cheers.
 
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« Reply #141 on: Feb 17th, 2011, 5:31pm »
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I am modelling a freelanced HO railroad based loosely on the PGE and the E&N in the 50s. I am modelling a close approximation to the Store street trackage including the lift bridge. How was the train run with the long back up moves? The engineer would not be able to see vehicle traffic with a large cut of cars.  Also making sure the bridge was closed. Would a caboose (shoving platform) be used?

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« Reply #142 on: Feb 17th, 2011, 5:48pm »
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on Feb 17th, 2011, 5:31pm, bigcreekcowboy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I am modelling a freelanced HO railroad based loosely on the PGE and the E&N in the 50s. I am modelling a close approximation to the Store street trackage including the lift bridge. How was the train run with the long back up moves? The engineer would not be able to see vehicle traffic with a large cut of cars.  Also making sure the bridge was closed. Would a caboose (shoving platform) be used?

 
 
The cars were backed into the spurs with a spotter (or what ever he was called) riding on the leading car.  
 
The bridge was not a problem, as it was interlocked with the signals (one on each side of the bridge). Actually, it still is interlocked with the signals. There were semaphores until with mid '70s. Now there are double searchlight signals (bottom always red, top red or green).
 
I don't recall seeing cabooses used on the Store St side of the bridge in the '70s.


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« Reply #143 on: Feb 20th, 2011, 2:40pm »
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on Feb 17th, 2011, 5:48pm, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
The cars were backed into the spurs with a spotter (or what ever he was called) riding on the leading car.  
 

 
He would be the brakeman or conductor.


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« Reply #144 on: Mar 17th, 2012, 2:04am »
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stumbled on this in a 30 year old scrapbook...  Eugene Grogan, or Michael  Jordens.. if you're reading.. consider the damage estimates,  only $1300
 
 



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« Reply #145 on: Mar 22nd, 2012, 3:29am »
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Thanks for posting, Dave.  I like the vintage Police Harley.
 
Is that the only photo we have of a Baldwin on Store Street?


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« Reply #146 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 7:16pm »
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'Tain't a Baldwin.  The 6573 was an MLW S3.  Bob Turner has a picture of a Baldwin (#7074) on Store Street on page 248 of "West of the Great Divide".

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« Reply #147 on: Apr 1st, 2012, 1:34am »
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I do humbly stand corrected.  
 
Thanks for answering my question, though!


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« Reply #148 on: Apr 6th, 2012, 2:25am »
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on Mar 22nd, 2012, 3:29am, CPRail4744 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks for posting, Dave.  I like the vintage Police Harley.

 
Glad to contribute.   when I found this in a 30 year old scrapbook (dedicated to the "save the E&N" movement c. 1978-80), I knew it needed to be scanned and shared on this thread.    
 
 Like your post on page 1, I was fascinated by the tracks running down Store Street, with sidings running here and there.  and the rail yard just down from The Bay.   Like the old Coho terminal on Wharf, or the Eaton's Dept Store built from 7 different buildings (with elevators with operators),  the Memorial Arena,  the roundabout at Douglas/Government/Hillside/Gorge, or the Tillicum Drive In with its orange cone, the Capitol (not 6),  the Store Street tracks are now a memory of a Victoria that no longer exists.   Next up, Johnson St bridge  


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« Reply #149 on: Apr 7th, 2012, 5:10am »
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Hey, I remember that orange cone thing!!!  I was only about 5 years old and never could figure out what it was...
 
Victoria Machinery Depot is another .
Lim's Farm Market at the corner of Blenkinsop and McKenzie...


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« Reply #150 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 9:15pm »
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Stop it guys--you're making me feel old!


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« Reply #151 on: May 24th, 2012, 1:53am »
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Store street aerial photo, 1947,  tracks in street mostly obscured, good views of buildings on east side, and the yard.  Click to zoom  http://vintageairphotos.com/bo-47-1456/

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« Reply #152 on: May 24th, 2012, 7:13am »
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& a loco, and a streetcar on Douglas.  (& streetcar tracks on Government).
 
Good photo, nice zoom on it, not like a little small scan of an image.
 
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« Reply #153 on: May 24th, 2012, 11:34am »
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What I didn't see and I think it answers another question that has floated around the group.  No tracks to the brewery from the yard at store st.  that is a great shot.

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« Reply #154 on: May 24th, 2012, 4:02pm »
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I'm still not convinced.  If you look at the '47 image, and zoom in on the track at the right hand edge of the brewery, it appears to line up with the edge of the brewery.  If you go back to page 8, and look at the '50 image, the track clearly does not line up across government.  Also, in the '47 image, it appears to me like the side of the brewery has had an access road along it, or, what could have been a siding.
 
We need a pre 1947 image to verify.
 
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« Reply #155 on: May 24th, 2012, 4:35pm »
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Also, note all the trackage on the Vic West side at the bottom of the picture, I didn't know it had been that extensive. There's even a wye on the bottom left although the stub end is very short. Very cool picture!

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« Reply #156 on: May 24th, 2012, 10:35pm »
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James you could be right and if so I stand corrected lol. I had another look and it could be tracks across Government on the right side.  
Chris do you think that one leg of that wye is connected to the dock trackage too?


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« Reply #157 on: May 24th, 2012, 11:55pm »
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on May 24th, 2012, 10:35pm, Piglet wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Chris do you think that one leg of that wye is connected to the dock trackage too?

 
It looks like it does, but some of the radius of those curves makes me think it was just an inter-plant railway, might not have even connected with CN. There's a very small flat car sitting on the track on the dock, definitely not a car for interchange. I wish I could see the whole track layout, looks interesting.  


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« Reply #158 on: May 25th, 2012, 12:14am »
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There's a couple of other relevant photos
http://vintageairphotos.com/bo-47-1455/
 
http://vintageairphotos.com/bo-54-136/
 
In fact, the whole Victoria collection would probably be of interest to anyone interested in old Victoria.   The inner harbour in 1947, no Black Ball terminal.  1951 photo, Black Ball has appeared.    
 
Or this one, HBC Store only 5 windows long on Fisgard St.. and houses where the parkade eventually was built.  Blanshard.... newly expanded to the new arena, and no farther   http://vintageairphotos.com/bo-47-1524/
 
All the Victoria photos... http://vintageairphotos.com/tag/victoria/


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« Reply #159 on: May 25th, 2012, 12:32am »
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I know where to borrow a photo recon airplane just need a time machine to get it back there to take the shots.

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