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« Reply #180 on: Jun 4th, 2008, 10:07pm »
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on Jun 4th, 2008, 5:46pm, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Yes, never say the words " XXXX railway never did XXX"...you will almost always be proven wrong. I think I've only done it once, on here anyway..stating that no CP C424 ever touched the rails of the E&N...but have been waiting for something to surface ever since;)...remember, people swore for years that there was never an F-unit over there.....

 
In the case of the C424s you are right.  They didn't come over here (If they had it definitely would be recorded somewhere
 
on Jun 4th, 2008, 5:46pm, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
By that time in 86, there would have been around 40 unrebuilt GP9's left...they seemed to make an effort to keep only the 26L brake(newest) equipped ones on the island by then.

 
Correct.  The usual susects 8646,8663,8669,8672,8673,8674 all went to play on mainland BC before getting rebuilt.  
 
Pic taken in Merritt late March 1985  - 8673 and 8674 just got in from the Spences Bridge turn.  (Off topic but I got to run them around the yard a bit and had parked them where they sit in the pic)



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« Reply #181 on: Jun 4th, 2008, 11:41pm »
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on Jun 4th, 2008, 5:46pm, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
no CP C424 ever touched the rails of the E&N...but have been waiting for something to surface ever since

 
A C424!  That, no doubt, is a safe bet.  (Notice I didn't say never, though.  Too risky!)
 
But, if you like MLWs, here is S-3 #6572 at Port Alberni during the spring of 1979.


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« Reply #182 on: Jun 5th, 2008, 1:05am »
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on Jun 4th, 2008, 5:46pm, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
.remember, people swore for years that there was never an F-unit over there....

Details?    The 1967 Centennial engines?


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Looking through old slides tonight, this taken July 1981 shows Comox Logging's 8427 now Alberni Pacific 8427 crossing the E&N at Ladysmith. If my memory serves me well Sidewinder was standing beside me when I took the picture.

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Another Vancouver Island engine M&B #1077 in Courtenay May 1979 at the head of the Provincial Museum Train. Sidewinder and I along with other railfans were there to watch it come to town at daybreak somewhere I have a picture of the headlight coming down the track.

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on Jun 5th, 2008, 2:06am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Another Vancouver Island engine M&B #1077 in Courtenay May 1979 at the head of the Provincial Museum Train. Sidewinder and I along with other railfans were there to watch it come to town at daybreak somewhere I have a picture of the headlight coming down the track.

I got to sit in the cab of 1077 at Wellcox while it waited for the barge to go back to the mainland.  I remember it was a warm day, and the cab was very hot with the fire.....  The engineer and fireman welcomed us aboard as we broke the monotony of waiting for the barge; as they couldn't leave due to security of the locomotive.


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Details?    The 1967 Centennial engines?

 
 
Yes, that would be right! One could also add RS23's, which we know were there, one at least anyway(which I have always found odd...they were never west coast units), or an M420(musem train) Here's a different one though, were any of the GP7's ever over there?


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« Reply #187 on: Jun 9th, 2008, 8:40pm »
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This may not qualify as a locomotive but if not then what?  In the '70s a British Columbia Railway RDC traveled the line with a CPR RDC.  I think maybe with a Premier riding in it but of that I can't be sure.
 
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« Reply #188 on: Jun 10th, 2008, 7:59pm »
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In the '70s a British Columbia Railway RDC traveled the line with a CPR RDC.  I think maybe with a Premier riding in it but of that I can't be sure.

 
Indeed it did.  The Premier was Bill Bennett and most of the Provincial Cabinet rode with him.  It was in 1978, IIRC, the year the CTC gave CP Rail permission to abandon passenger service on the E&N, and the Premier's trip was part of a provincial government campaign to have that decision reversed.  I believe there is a photo of the trip on one of these threads.


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« Reply #189 on: Aug 9th, 2008, 11:45pm »
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on Jun 5th, 2008, 1:34pm, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
One could also add RS23's, which we know were there, one at least anyway(which I have always found odd...they were never west coast units)

 
Sorry to hi-jack a thread but recently I followed an interesting message thread regarding the MLW's which started off as a question about reliability and then morphed into "CP's MLW experiments, E&N style".
 
This was the only mention of the E&N but I thought I would copy/paste it here for our enjoyment:
 
Re: CP's MLW Experiments...E&N style  
 
 
Well to bring this thread back on topic:
CP's MLW Experiments...here's a little story...
 
Once upon a time, and it doesn't seem too long ago!, CP was purging
their old and/or minority yard power. The MLW and BLW switchers that
had faithfully performed the switching duties in the Vancouver area
had to be replaced. The Powerful Bureau ordered two MLW RS23 west to
Coquitlam to be tested in yard service. True to form, Coquitlam soon
sent one of the disliked pair sailing west to the E&N. In the fashion
of the E&N the 8020 was sent south from Welcox to the main shops in
Victoria where with a through cleaning, inside and out, and a little
TLC it became a respectable unit. Bear in mind that motive power
became captive to the E&N because of its isolation so the Victoria
shops looked after its power (all seven units at that time as I
recall) to a far greater degree than most other CP shops. I expect
the DAR was the only other CP line that could look after its power to
the same degree as the E&N and for the same reason, its isolation from
the rest of the system. In the post BLW era on the E&N it seemed
Coquitlam would rotate its most troublesome Geeps to the island to
eventually be returned clean and reliable.
 
Now to MLW Experiments...E&N style:
With the free time that its reliable fleet afforded the Victoria shops
turned its attention to the 8020 to see if they could address the
famous Alco turbo lag smoke problem. They found with some slight
adjustments to the engine's govenor the fuel rack would open s l o w
l y. So s l o w l y would the fuel rack open that the throttle
could be wiped to notch 8 and no smoke! Solved the smoke issue!
 
But, 8020 did not load like an Alco.
 
It was positively anemic!
 
Even the Geeps loaded faster.
Still, compared to today's GE's it was a throughbread.
 
The shops pondered the tradeoff: smoke vs performance.
Performance won so the govenor was reset back to specifications.
So ended the E&N MLW Experiment.


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« Reply #190 on: Aug 11th, 2008, 2:44pm »
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Where was this discussion? would like to read the rest of it.

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« Reply #191 on: Aug 11th, 2008, 3:21pm »
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« Reply #192 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 11:25pm »
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Were CP Rail GP-9s 8249 or 8231 ever used on the Island?
If so, you might be interested in seeing them after they collided with a tractor-trailer in SW Ontario today.
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« Reply #193 on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 2:20pm »
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Yikes, hope there aren't any bent frames there, or that's it.

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« Reply #194 on: Aug 24th, 2008, 3:04am »
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I thought the train always won these kinds of fights...looks like this was a tie.

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Well, when the load of the truck alone is 40,500kg (~45 tons), a very considerable proportion of the weight of the lead locomotive, things do happen...

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[quote author=MinionII link=board=Vancouver;num=1175555045;start=180#197 date=08/24/08 at 22:23:33]Well, when the load of the truck alone is 40,500kg (~45 tons), a very considerable proportion of the weight of the lead locomotive, things do happen...[/quote
 
 
Also, if part of the truck manages to get jammed under the loco's wheels, it's quite possible for it to derail the locomotive.


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on Aug 21st, 2008, 11:25pm, thehighwayman wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Were CP Rail GP-9s 8249 or 8231 ever used on the Island?
If so, you might be interested in seeing them after they collided with a tractor-trailer in SW Ontario today.
http://railfan.thegrebs.com/CPR
Will

8231 started life as 8816 and 8249 was 8830, I can't say they were never here, but they definitely were not regulars.


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Went by SRY's Trapp yard yesterday and stopped to get some pictures of 110 and 119. Heres 110...

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...and 119 in the shops.

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