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« Reply #120 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 12:39am »
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The more I look at them the more I think they maybe older then that.


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« Reply #121 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 6:02am »
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I cant get enough of looking at Island logging pictures thanks for posting them.

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« Reply #122 on: Jul 5th, 2007, 11:26am »
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on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:39am, Piglet wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The more I look at them the more I think they maybe older then that.

The Shay and 2-6-2 #7 were on display by 1962. The chunky 2-8-2 briefly replaced the Baldwin Diesel before going on display in 1962. I'm pretty sure the Shay is #12 and your picture is interesting in that the air pump is missing, meaning it was being used for parts sometime before going on display.
All three locomotives were preserved, but none remain at Ladysmith. Excellent pictures, if you have more like that, Piglet, please post them.


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« Reply #123 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 1:02am »
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on Jul 5th, 2007, 12:39am, Piglet wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The more I look at them the more I think they maybe older then that.

 
That's PGE #2 (ex CL&R #7) and CL&R #16, which are both in the collection of the WCRA. #16 is currently in Kamloops, but may be going back to Squamish. I guess the WCRA and KHR realized that it is going to take more $$ to restore her than they previously thought. As for PGE #2 (ex #7), the WCRA is interested in restoring it back to operational status for the railway heritage park in Squamish, as that's the last remaining PGE steam loco in existance. Good photo!


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« Reply #124 on: Jul 6th, 2007, 2:26am »
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I know you know this Roman, but in fairness, there are two more but they're at the bottom of Anderson and Seton Lakes respectively.  
But #2 is the one remaining on the surface, so to speak. lol.


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« Reply #125 on: Jul 14th, 2007, 11:59am »
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GREAT pictures Piglet!!! It's nice to see an old picture of steam engines and now that they all lived. I do hope that they can get number 2 back into service. Last I heard the WCRA wanted to first restore it back to it's tank engine form. I also hope they can finally get that #16 restored. Just one last question, has anyone heard anything more about the CPR Baldwin diesel?

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« Reply #126 on: Jul 14th, 2007, 8:38pm »
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besides WCRA getting the baldwin, i dont know much more, except i have heard, its to stay in Calgary until CP has the time to ship it out.

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« Reply #127 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 1:39am »
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I'm up here in Port McNeill for a few days so I've been around taking as much train pictures that my family will let me take  . I went down to Beaver Cove and got some of #112 today (July 19, 2007). So here's the picture of it. It was porring rain while I was there. And just as we drove off......it stopped.  
 
I also went looking for old #6 in the bay but haven't found it as of yet. But I haven't given up yet  . I went to Telegraph Cove first and asked a woman at the office if she knew where it was. A second woman then came up and said "Their was a guy last year looking for that engine". They then told me to head to the logging operation office and ask them for better directions. So I did so. When I got there, their were two guys standing there. So I asked the same question. And the one guy just said "Their was a guy last year looking for that engine". Ok so they do remember us railfans up there  . Anyways, they told us how to find it. But we never did find it and anyways, by that time we had missed the tide  . But I was wondering if anyone here knows how to find it and/or have pictures of it? And another question, was it anyone here that was looking for it last year  .



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« Reply #128 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 10:26am »
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Nice pictures, Balto. Not directed at you, but: WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE TRY TO SAVE 112? THE FOREST IS TAKING IT BACK. Sorry about the yelling.
I think the key to seeing #6 is low tide, and having a pretty good idea where it actually is. If you go to http://www.shaylocomotives.com/ and go to 'Surviving Shays' at the bottom of the page is a link to a pic of #6. Try to locate that area.
Edit: There is another one in deeper water is you scuba dive.


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« Reply #129 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 1:08pm »
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Why doesn't some one approach the outfit in PA and send in a request through them.

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« Reply #130 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 1:16pm »
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Ya, it should be saved. I went into the cab and it looking not too bad for the time it's been sitting there. Not too much rust either. Maybe someone could also save #6 at the same time  .

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« Reply #131 on: Jul 20th, 2007, 5:25pm »
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Regarding Shay #6, it's pretty easy to find. Once you pass the dryland sort and #112 on display, head up the hill towards Telegraph Cove. Where the main road starts to turn to the right, there's a dirt road that goes off to the left and down to the beach. Turn off on this road and head down to the beach. Soon you'll get to a bunch of cabins. Park somewhere near the cabins and walk along the beach. The Shay is being used as an anchor for one of the warves. But, check your tide tables and be there when the tide is low. Attached is a pic I took 3 years ago of Shay #6. I also heard a rumour that there is a steam engine abandoned in the bush somewhere in the Englewood area, however it may just be a steam donkey and not a locomotive. I tried loooking for it but found a bunch of old trestles instead.

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« Reply #132 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:39am »
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I FOUND IT, sorry about the yelling, very happy   . Thank you for all your help and the directions. I wish I could have read them earlier, we were out there looking for it between 11:00am-12:00pm. I went to Telegraph Cove yesterday looking for it so I got the tide table. I went to the office there and spent about 15min to the guy about the engine and all there steam engines. He was very kind. All the workers we saw around there all seem kind and didn't mind us around there looking for the engine. When me and my dad found it on the beach the tide was a ways out so I went up and touched the engine. hehehe, sorry, I'm only 15 so still a kid and can still get away with some kidish things  . lol, my dad thought it was a huge steam engine like 113 so he was a bit disapointed but he was also happy that we found it and soon got over it's size. But along the beach there, there was quite a bit of old railway stuff, tracks, what looked like wheels and the shay's old truck (or a barge can't tell  ). Here's my picture of it. Taken on July 20, 2007.
 
On a different note: I find it ironic with 112. The engine was built for the company to cut down the forest and now as FSD8014 put it, "The Forest Is Taking It Back". Kind of creepy and ironic at the same time to me.


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On are way home, we stopped off in Courtenay and I got some pictures of CL&RC #2 down there too. The engine is by the looks of it in great condition. I couldn't see any rust on her. The only problem was trying to get a good picture of the full engine  . Hope you guys don't mind this shot.


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« Reply #134 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 2:56am »
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And since we went through Qualicum, we might as well stop to see #4. Couldn't resist  . It also looks in good condition too.


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And so that we can remember the good old days of 112. The man in the office let me take a picture of a picture on the wall with 112 in full steam. Too bad those days are gone.......for now  . One question, does anyone know what engine that is behind her? Sorry but I'm not sure on what year the original picture is from.


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on Jul 21st, 2007, 3:01am, Balto wrote:       (Click here for original message)
One question, does anyone know what engine that is behind her? Sorry but I'm not sure on what year the original picture is from.

 
It's a Climax locomotive and is evident from the position of the cylinders but can't see a number to identify that particular engine. Since the two Climaxes in Duncan are the only ones left in Canada, the one in the picture has been scrapped. If you want to see a photo of how #112 looked like when it was brand new check out this page on one of my websites:
http://members.shaw.ca/SteamLoco113/112.htm
Scroll down the page and there's a thumbnailed photo of the manufacturer's photo of #112.


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« Reply #137 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 10:16am »
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on Jul 21st, 2007, 3:01am, Balto wrote:       (Click here for original message)
And so that we can remember the good old days of 112. The man in the office let me take a picture of a picture on the wall with 112 in full steam. Too bad those days are gone.......for now  . One question, does anyone know what engine that is behind her? Sorry but I'm not sure on what year the original picture is from.

The Climax in the background looks to be a three-truck machine. Canfor only rostered three Climaxes, so this'll get you a bit closer to the answer. There is an all time roster for Canfor on page 236 of 'Logging by Rail' by Robert D Turner.  
Canfor's Climaxes were #7, a 45 ton two truck unit. This was converted at Nimpkish to Diesel #252, which was scrapped in 1973.
Three truck Climaxes #101 & 102 were both scrapped in 1959. There is a picture of 101 on page 233. Your picture really looks like 101. If you go to http://www.gearedsteam.com/climax/images_no.htm you'll find a picture of Nanaimo Timber #1 (which later became CFP 102) which uses a later style of cylinder, among other things. The Climax is probably #101.


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Thank you guys for all the information. Preservedsteambc, those are great websites. And truthfully, the one web site is where I first read about the story of #6  . FSD8014, thanks for the link. On that website, I think I found another picture of 101 and 7. Here's a link to another part of the website http://www.gearedsteam.com/climax/images_Ca-Ce.htm . Their under "Canadian Forest Products". Thank you guys for all your help with all these steam engines. I can't wait to go to PA (ha, I now know what that is  ).

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« Reply #139 on: Jul 21st, 2007, 1:42pm »
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Your one ahead of me Balto.  I have always wanted to go find that shay in the water but my ex didn't want to "waste" the time.  I will have to follow your excellent directions next time we are out on the island as my partner and I are both up for the explore.  
I really need to get a waterproof case for one of my cameras so I can strap the tanks on and go looking for the other engine that is a little farther off shore.  I might as well put 25+ years of scuba to work lol.  Maybe after next spring if all goes well.


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