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« Reply #500 on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 2:17am »
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Excellent.  These are the kind of firm projections they need to get the provincial gov't on side.  Sounds like they've really been beating the bushes to drum up business.  Of course, we always knew the business was out there . . .  

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« Reply #501 on: Aug 30th, 2008, 1:46am »
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Rumour, I understand, the rate charged to the company shipping poles out of Royston, has increased 25% recently making it almost impossible for them to make a buck you may want to get your pictures soon!

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« Reply #502 on: Sep 5th, 2008, 8:37pm »
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 This was in today's Vancouver Sun and  mentions the Southern Railway third paragraph from the bottom on a proposed rail barge ramp. The federal election promises start!!!
 
Port terminals to trade in roadways for seaways
Derrick Penner, Vancouver Sun
Published: Friday, September 05, 2008
Metro Vancouver port terminals aim to take 650 trucks per day off congested Metro roads with a series of new shortsea shipping routes that will trade waterways for roadways to move cargo around.  
 
The federal government on Friday announced it will spend $20 million from its Asia-Pacific Gateway initiative to help port operators and municipalities build up to $43.5 million worth of facilities and infrastructure in seven separate projects.  
 
"Better use of our waterways through shortsea shipping can help alleviate congestion, facilitate trade, reduce greenhouse gas emissions and increase overall transportation efficiency," Lawrence Canon, federal minister of transport, infrastructure and communities said in a press release.  
 
 
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Federal funding will be contingent on reaching contribution agreements with the companies and municipalities involved as well as completion of required environmental assessments, but the projects include:  
 
- The Fraser River shuttle will see the Coast 2000 distribution centre on the south arm of the Fraser River in Richmond build a barge ramp and dock able load and unload shipping containers for transport to and from port terminals. Cost: $10 million, $5 million from the federal government.  
 
- The Deltaport shortsea berth project will see TSI Terminal Systems build a barge berth as part of its Berth 3 expansion. Cost: $4.7 million, $2.35 million from the federal government.  
 
- The Vanterm shortsea berth will see TSI Terminals convert the existing Berth No. 7 at its Burrard Inlet terminal into a shortsea barge berth capable of handling containers and a ramp for roll-on-roll-off truck traffic. Cost: $3.9 million, $1.9 million from the federal government.  
 
- The Mountain View Apex Container Terminal, which will see Seaspan International build a shortsea access point allowing it to move freight by barge including containers and tractor trailers in a roll-on-roll-off fashion. Cost: $14 million, $7 million from the federal government.  
 
- The Southern Railway of B.C. rail barge project will see Southern Rail build a rail-barge ramp at its terminal on Annacis Island capable of handling rail cars and tractor trailers. Cost: $10 million, $4.6 million from the federal government.  
 
- The City of Richmond will build a new four-lane section of road between Wireless Way and Highway 91 to improve traffic flows. The federal government will support construction with a $750,000 contribution.  
 
- The Corporation of Delta will build left-turn lanes on Nordel Way at Brooke Road and Shepherd Way to reduce congestion. The federal government will support construction with a $1.1 million contribution.  
 
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« Reply #503 on: Oct 17th, 2008, 8:04pm »
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A rail referendum question is attached to the civic election ballot in the City of Langford. I haven't checked the other communities listed as part of the C4CR group, but I would assume that they also have it.
Be sure to get out and do your civic duty on November 15th.
 
http://www.cityoflangford.ca/newsarticle.asp?TopicID=562 (just below the list of candidates)


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« Reply #504 on: Nov 10th, 2008, 10:32am »
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Its amazing that when there is a will to fund that governments can find a way to. Here is the latest on the Wakefield train in Quebec.
 
Ottawa switches tracks on funding rules to aid 'Petit Train'
Harper government to provide $2-million to fix rails of the Wakefield Steam Train, a major tourist draw in Tory riding  
 Article  Comments (34)  DANIEL LEBLANC  
 
From Monday's Globe and Mail
 
November 10, 2008 at 5:08 AM EST
 
OTTAWA — The Harper government rewrote the rules of an economic development program in order to pay for a $2-million project in a Conservative Quebec riding that would otherwise have been left out.
 
Ottawa announced last week that it will provide one-third of the funding to repair the tracks used by the Wakefield Steam Train, a major tourist draw in western Quebec that was grounded earlier this year after a series of landslides.
 
However, the money comes from a federal program, called Major Economic and Tourism Facilities, that was created this year to fund projects in the poorest parts of Quebec.
 
While some areas of the Outaouais are covered by the program, the railway line is in a previously ineligible part of the region, much of it in the riding of Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon.
 
A senior official at Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions, Marc Boily, said that in order to fund the steam train, the program's criteria were redrawn by the agency's previous Conservative minister, Jean-Pierre Blackburn. Mr. Boily said the decision to change the program's criteria came after Mr. Blackburn was informed about the problems faced by the 101-year-old train, which traverses a scenic route from Hull to the village of Wakefield in the Gatineau Hills.
 
"The minister asked for the program to be modified ... to allow for funding in the event of 'acts of God' in areas that are not part of the program," Mr. Boily said. "This is not a case of funding something that was ineligible. It's that the program was adapted."
 
In a recent interview, Mr. Blackburn, who has since been shuffled to National Revenue, defended the rule change as good policy, saying he viewed his job as finding solutions to complex problems.
 
He added he had been asked by Mr. Cannon to help find a way to get the train running again.
 
"The local MP was my colleague, Mr. Cannon, and he was asking me whether there was something that could be done," Mr. Blackburn said.
 
Mr. Cannon praised the deal when the federal funding was officially announced last week.
 
"This tourist attraction is of strategic importance for the Outaouais and Pontiac regions, and that is why the government of Canada is proud to be a partner in its restoration. It has the potential to generate significant direct and indirect economic spinoffs, which is particularly critical in this time of economic uncertainty," he said.
 
Torrential rains first caused a landslide below the tracks used by the Hull-Chelsea-Wakefield Steam Train, which was built in Sweden in 1907, in July of last year. Another landslide near the tracks in May led to the suspension of the service.
 
The incidents dealt a major blow to the tourism industry in the Outaouais, where thousands of tourists embark on the train in Gatineau and spend their dollars in shops and restaurants in picturesque Wakefield.
 
Faced with a repair bill of about $6-million, the company that owns the train tried to sell it for use on steadier ground elsewhere. No buyer was found, and politicians of all stripes spent months trying to find a way to keep the "Petit Train" in the region.
 
In their recent announcement, the provincial, federal and local governments each agreed to foot one-third of the repair bill, meaning that Ottawa's share will be about $2-million.
 
Earlier this year, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty made a surprise pledge to run train service from Toronto to Peterborough, Ont., along a route through a number of Conservative ridings. The opposition derided the plan as the "pork-barrel express."
 


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« Reply #505 on: Nov 18th, 2008, 11:34am »
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There is a great article in the Times Communist today that makes a very strong argument for our Island's rail line.  Apparently all sorts of politicians are banding together regardless of political stripes all in an effort to convince Victoria that now is the time for upgrades to our rail line.  Definitely good news.  Worth a read.
 
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« Reply #506 on: Nov 18th, 2008, 11:50am »
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on Nov 18th, 2008, 11:34am, bcrailfan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
There is a great article in the Times Communist today that makes a very strong argument for our Island's rail line.  Apparently all sorts of politicians are banding together regardless of political stripes all in an effort to convince Victoria that now is the time for upgrades to our rail line.  Definitely good news.  Worth a read.
 
Ben

 
Please post the link .... or at least the headline so we know what to look for.
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« Reply #507 on: Nov 18th, 2008, 11:53am »
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on Nov 18th, 2008, 11:34am, bcrailfan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
There is a great article in the Times Communist today that makes a very strong argument for our Island's rail line.  Apparently all sorts of politicians are banding together regardless of political stripes all in an effort to convince Victoria that now is the time for upgrades to our rail line.  Definitely good news.  Worth a read.
 
Ben

 
Never mind previous message .... here's the link:
 
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=030abfef-a8e9-480e-945b-efb7459485d4
 
Commuter rail should be priority, all-party committee says
Judith Lavoie, Times Colonist
Published: Tuesday, November 18, 2008
The Island's E&N train tracks should be upgraded with a view to developing commuter rail service, the province's all-party finance committee says.
 
In a budget priorities report released yesterday the select standing committee on finance, made up of Liberal and NDP MLAs, said the track project should be a capital spending priority.
 
read the rest at the link above ....
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« Reply #508 on: Nov 18th, 2008, 8:53pm »
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That is definitely great news. More pressure on Campbell and Falcon.

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« Reply #509 on: Nov 25th, 2008, 8:35pm »
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Just received this on the Yahoo thread from a gentlemen named Dennis in Port Alberni. Looks like good news to me.
 
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Was at a gathering the other evening and was told some good news about
the E & N for a change. Well two things good for the benefit of Port
Alberni anyway.
 
#1 - There is a good chance of daily freight movements beginning
between Courtenay and Port Alberni. The infrastructure improvements
will be handled at either end by ICF and the rail bed improvements by
Southern Rail. A press release is pending but just awaiting a couple
of contracts being finalized.  
 
#2 - The #113 out of Woss should be repatriated to Port Alberni fairly
soon and it will be the locomotive that the "Cameron Crawl" will be
powered by in the near future.  
I know I got contrary information from a fellow poster on this list
but being I know who I was chatting with at the wine and cheese I was
at I will stick my money on them if there is to be any betting.  
 
Looking forward to hearing both steam and diesel powered rail
movements pass by three sides of my home soon.


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« Reply #510 on: Nov 25th, 2008, 8:54pm »
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If this is true... obviously good news indeed.
 
However, anyone care to speculate on what possible freight movements/contracts there could be between Courtney and PA? I'm guessing that this could be the old rumour of coal trains between the Courtney area and PA... hopefully this is something different. (not that there is anything wrong with coal trains, but I just feel that this is a long way off... and just talk).


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« Reply #511 on: Nov 25th, 2008, 9:05pm »
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McRae won decisively with 2,386 votes, more than doubling Fisher-Bradley’s 1,079. Jacques Savard had 308 votes.
 
McRae was back to business Monday morning, and his goals for this term are clear.
 
“The economy and jobs are our priorities,” McRae said. “We want to preserve what we have, and add to it as well.”
 
“Adding to” means diversifying the economy, something McRae said council will be working on closely with economic development officer Pat Deakin.
 
Major economic announcements regarding Southern Rail and the development of Sterling Field can be expected shortly. He added that he hoped to begin discussions with Catalyst about the 108 acres of land they have available.
 


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« Reply #512 on: Nov 25th, 2008, 11:54pm »
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"... Southern Rail and the development of Sterling Field..."
 
 
Interesting. Anyone know more about what and where Sterling Field is?
 
 (I Googled it, but couldn't find out any more.)
 


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on Nov 25th, 2008, 8:54pm, Speeder wrote:       (Click here for original message)
If this is true... obviously good news indeed.
 
However, anyone care to speculate on what possible freight movements/contracts there could be between Courtney and PA? I'm guessing that this could be the old rumour of coal trains between the Courtney area and PA... hopefully this is something different. (not that there is anything wrong with coal trains, but I just feel that this is a long way off... and just talk).

 
There are no details of what freight will be shipped, but as Dennis said from yahoo group, a press conference is pending as soon as a couple of contracts are signed.
 
I would assume forest products related.


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« Reply #514 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 1:04am »
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With that kind of volume, it has to be forest products.  It can't be coal as there are no coal operations active nearby, and Quinsam ships all its stuff by sea I believe.
 
Could it be TimberWest - Oyster River  "TimberWest's Oyster River operation manages over 110,000 hectares of land on Vancouver Island, which stretches from 10 km south of Gold River to 30 km north of Port Alberni."
 
My god... could we depending on log exports to revive our rail line?  Oh the bitter bitter irony.


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« Reply #515 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 1:42am »
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Another update from Dennis, He said
 
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Let me reiterate that the freight movements I have mentioned will be
unlike anything the Island has seen before. Like in multiple multiple
car movements daily. It could be some of the BCIT graduates could be
hired right here in town.  
 
If it all happens as relayed to me the E & N will be putting in and
reinstalling many of the passing sidings on the north end and the Port
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« Reply #516 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 6:30am »
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This is almost to good to believe but I have no doubts that it can and will happen.

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« Reply #517 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 6:21pm »
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Assuming I have my math done right, I know Dennis quite well.  
 
 I would take anything said  right now to be with a grain of salt,  not because of the source, but because of the economic climate.  If you want examples, take a look at Mackenzie, where they thought the pulp mill was coming back...and now clearly isn't.  
 
For traffic in the multi train, large unit trains...well, I think coal is more likely than timber.  How much did Catalyst(*) take in the 80's when they got the chips by rail?  (as in the logging ops that have been recently posted on here, along with the chip strike in the mid 80's?)
 
I doubt you would see huge volumes of raw logs moving by rail to PA, because I can't see it being more cost efficient than booming them around.  Rail wins over truck, ship wins over rail...and if you were loading raw logs, then booming them around to San Juan Harbour (Port Renfrew) and loading them makes as much sense as shipping them to PA and loading them...as would having the ship come into the inside.  (basically, anywhere would make as much sense...why ship by 3x modes instead of 2x?)
 
It all comes down to cost of transshipping...but hopefully, it all does work out.  It would be great to see the Port Sub repaired & put to use, it would also be equally good to see regular use of the line south for heavy cargo as well.  Mostly, I think that it is the fact that CP managed to drive away so many costomers and SRVI is saddled with remarkably poor infastructure to be able to recapture them with.  (it's competing with the government, in essence...which is why RA lost the battle...must be smarter than Gov, 'cause you ain't going to out spend them!)
 
  Mind too, I don't see how there is not a gravel train in operation over the 'hat right now...there is NO way that it is cost/enviornmentally efficient to run multi Super B's over the hat 6x a day to get gravel, and that is happening (as one person on here can attest!)
 
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« Reply #518 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 8:43pm »
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I still can't figure out how it is cheaper to haul anything on the east coast of the island to the west coast of the island by rail.  Movements by water/barge is so much cheaper........ and larger volumes as well per trip.
That said, if it is true, WOW!  and GREAT!
 
Westmin mines in Campbell River is closing to a skeleton crew, btw, approx by end of December.
 


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« Reply #519 on: Nov 26th, 2008, 11:24pm »
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According to Dennis, this new freight service being discussed DOES NOT involved raw logs.

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