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tfctrains
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« Reply #40 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:17am »
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Sidewinder
You just got my attention, is that the tender that ended up on 3716? What you doing tomorrow?


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« Reply #41 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:27am »
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on Aug 21st, 2008, 1:17am, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)
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You just got my attention, is that the tender that ended up on 3716? What you doing tomorrow?

 
Now that is an interesting question!  Maybe it did.  There must be some way to prove it.
 
Have a appointment during the morning but the PM is free.  Why..... want to go chase trains on the Port Sub?


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« Reply #42 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 1:34am »
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Think we can still run fast enough?

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timberland#7
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« Reply #43 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 5:25am »
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i was wondering that myself when I seen the pictures of Esquilmalt yard you posted with the steam crane and tender. Whent to summerland in july and took a ride on the 3716. Talked to the engineer about the tender then and he wasnt sure were it came from and the trucks didnt seem to be original either.He thought it might have come from Prince george and isnt that were the steam crane went to?

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tfctrains
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« Reply #44 on: Aug 21st, 2008, 11:19pm »
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on Aug 21st, 2008, 5:25am, timberland#7 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
i was wondering that myself when I seen the pictures of Esquilmalt yard you posted with the steam crane and tender. Whent to summerland in july and took a ride on the 3716. Talked to the engineer about the tender then and he wasnt sure were it came from and the trucks didnt seem to be original either.He thought it might have come from Prince george and isnt that were the steam crane went to?

Yes the steam crane did go to Prnice George, I also think the original tender from 3716 is in Prince George, so that makes since, that a trade may have took place. I have pictures of the steam crane operating when we were there , will post some time.


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« Reply #45 on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 12:24am »
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on Aug 21st, 2008, 5:25am, timberland#7 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
i was wondering that myself when I seen the pictures of Esquilmalt yard you posted with the steam crane and tender. Whent to summerland in july and took a ride on the 3716. Talked to the engineer about the tender then and he wasnt sure were it came from and the trucks didnt seem to be original either.He thought it might have come from Prince george and isnt that were the steam crane went to?

 
Here is an Aug 81 photo of the tender that you noticed with the steam crane at Victoria.  Perhaps you can identify it as the one behind the 3716.  Unfortunately, the trucks are not visible in the shadows.


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« Reply #46 on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 12:29am »
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Might as well show close-ups of the tenders at Wellington photographed March 1976, too.
 
1 of 2.  Notice it has a different number than the one shown in Victoria.


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« Reply #47 on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 12:31am »
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2 of 2.

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timberland#7
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« Reply #48 on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 4:09am »
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I was up at the prince george museum in may and took some photos . Dont remember seeing a tender and wasnt with the crane but it could have been there I just dont remember it.Looked at my photos of 3716 and the tender does not have trucks like the 415809 tender could be one of the other two.

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missthealcos
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« Reply #49 on: Aug 22nd, 2008, 2:25pm »
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415815 is likely the one...I have pics somewhere of the swap in progress in 1987/88, and of the tender, so I should be able to find a number. It was definatley in the all black paint scheme. That pic of 415819 is the only work service tender I've ever seen that retained it's steam era paint. I do recall that the tender with 3716 now is from a P2
 
An even better question, are any of these left anywhere on the system?..I don't think so.


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« Reply #50 on: Sep 2nd, 2008, 6:15pm »
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on Aug 22nd, 2008, 2:25pm, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
415815 is likely the one...I have pics somewhere of the swap in progress in 1987/88, and of the tender, so I should be able to find a number. It was definatley in the all black paint scheme. That pic of 415819 is the only work service tender I've ever seen that retained it's steam era paint. I do recall that the tender with 3716 now is from a P2
 
An even better question, are any of these left anywhere on the system?..I don't think so.

 
Too bad no-one responded.  It would be nice to know what happened to the tenders.
 
Here is another picture from my recent slide search that seems like a good candidate for Historic Rolling Stock.  Still think a train is not a train without a caboose.  And, if you are going to have a caboose, it should look like this.  Wellcox, March 1975.  


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« Reply #51 on: Oct 6th, 2008, 12:39am »
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This cut-down box car used to catch my attention at Wellcox.  It was there for years.  Never figured out if it had a useful purpose other than an idler when unloading barges and the Princess of Vancouver.  The tops of the steam locomotive tender inserts that were mounted on the flat car shown in Reply #34 are visible in the rear.  The plow and spreader are historic, too.

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« Reply #52 on: Oct 12th, 2008, 11:31pm »
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From the days when freight cars were forty feet!  Wellcox Feb. 16, 1985.  The "tender insert" water car is in the background.

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« Reply #53 on: Oct 13th, 2008, 1:57pm »
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That's an amazing shot... I would not have thought that was taken in the mid-1980's.  Even the heavy industry (the mill) in the background has its own appeal history wise.

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« Reply #54 on: Oct 14th, 2008, 12:20am »
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on Oct 13th, 2008, 1:57pm, CLC Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
That's an amazing shot... I would not have thought that was taken in the mid-1980's.  Even the heavy industry (the mill) in the background has its own appeal history wise.

 
Yes, it does seem recent.  But, the photo was taken almost 25 years ago.  A lot can happen in 25 years.  Things certainly did change fast.... those neat old 40 footers were there one day..... gone the next.  The mill, too.


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« Reply #55 on: Oct 19th, 2008, 12:27am »
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Often wondered why this tank ended up mounted on a flat car.  Victoria, Aug. 20,1982

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on Aug 22nd, 2008, 12:24am, Sidewinder wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Here is an Aug 81 photo of the tender that you noticed with the steam crane at Victoria.  Perhaps you can identify it as the one behind the 3716.  Unfortunately, the trucks are not visible in the shadows.

I'm willing to say with 95% certainty that this is not the tender that is currently behind 3716.  I've also understood that the current tender came from a P2, but I've never actually seen or heard any evidence to support (or contradict) that.  
 
3716's original tender is indeed at the Museum in Prince George.  When I was there three years ago, it was sitting in the shop compound across the street from the museum.


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« Reply #57 on: Aug 25th, 2009, 1:16am »
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I've been digging through pictures I years ago, and it appears that 415815 is indeed the tender with 3716 now. I have a picture of it taken at the North Van steam shop in early 1987.
 
Then I googled the number 415815...guess what came up!
 
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2798198090053145380XEDaGL


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« Reply #58 on: Aug 25th, 2009, 12:53pm »
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on Aug 25th, 2009, 1:16am, missthealcos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I've been digging through pictures I years ago, and it appears that 415815 is indeed the tender with 3716 now. I have a picture of it taken at the North Van steam shop in early 1987.
 
Then I googled the number 415815...guess what came up!
 
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2798198090053145380XEDaGL

Nice find. So now the question becomes, to which locomotive(s) did 415815 belong?


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