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« Reply #540 on: Feb 28th, 2017, 3:30am »
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Wonderful pictures, Jamie and Alan


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July 1956,  CN's Saanich Spur  [Photo by Elwood White, collection of Jamie Masters ]
 
With a boxcar for the winery [and some boys riding on top of the boxcar], the 1451 crosses Saanich Road on a long ago summer's day.



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« Reply #542 on: Mar 1st, 2017, 6:04pm »
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Late June, 1989, Saanich Spur  [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
Returning back to Point Ellice after dropping off a load at Borden Mercantile, GMD1 1070
crosses Saanich Road.



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« Reply #543 on: Mar 2nd, 2017, 1:13am »
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September 18, 1954,  Victoria BC, Model Railroaders convention
Timetable and points of interest of the special passenger train running from Victoria to Deerholme and return.



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« Reply #544 on: Mar 2nd, 2017, 1:19am »
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September 18, 1954, Point Ellice Yard [Photo by Elwood White ]
 
The 2100 is cleaned and polished up and the model railroad conventioneers are getting ready for their journey up to Deerholme and back.



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Thanks Jamie for the great shot of the 2100 on the special on September 18, 1954. The hayrack observation car on that train was the 15106 in the old paint scheme with tilted wafers. - photo attached. Apparently the modellers wanted old equipment and not the latest CNR passenger cars in 1954. In April 1955 the CNR introduced the Super Continental and only ran the hayracks for that summer on the Continental between Kamloops Jct and Jasper. CNR repainted two others (15097 and 15099) and the 15106 probably got retired by 1955. The 15097 still exists at Heritage Park in Calgary albeit with 4 wheel trucks.  
I would like to get the numbers of the other cars in the NMRA-PNR special. AL
 
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September 18, 1954, Point Ellice Yard [Photo by Elwood White ]
 
The 2100 is cleaned and polished up and the model railroad conventioneers are getting ready for their journey up to Deerholme and back.



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Thanks Jamie for the great shot of the 2100 on the special on September 18, 1954. The hayrack observation car on that train was the 15106 in the old paint scheme with tilted wafers. - photo attached. Apparently the modellers wanted old equipment and not the latest CNR passenger cars in 1954. In April 1955 the CNR introduced the Super Continental and only ran the hayracks for that summer on the Continental between Kamloops Jct and Jasper. CNR repainted two others (15097 and 15099) and the 15106 probably got retired by 1955. The 15097 still exists at Heritage Park in Calgary albeit with 4 wheel trucks.  
I would like to get the numbers of the other cars in the NMRA-PNR special. AL
 
Al

Great stuff regarding the special train's passenger consist, Al, much appreciate learning new info about anything that went on, on the Island.
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« Reply #547 on: Mar 6th, 2017, 12:43am »
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A question about the Saanich Spur: I found a picture in Saanich Archives of the extension of McKenzie at Borden in 1968 - looking east where they were constructing a culvert next to the CNR right-of-way. Except the tracks were still there, going left (north) out of the picture, with crossbucks visible where they crossed Borden. I thought north of McKenzie was abandoned by the late 1930s - how far north did the tracks still run by '68, and why? I can't think of any customers between McKenzie and Blenkinsop Lake.

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« Reply #548 on: Mar 6th, 2017, 1:05am »
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can you re post the photo for reference?

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I tried to find it online again but their search function isn't very good. Here it is.

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« Reply #550 on: Mar 6th, 2017, 1:35am »
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Awesome, thanks. It turns out I actually have seen this photo before.  Heres my take on it:  In one of the old Wilkie videos depicting the Saanich spur in the 60s it shows a steam switcher working the end of the line part Borden. In the video clip there is two spurs, stub ended I presume and appear to be around the area where the old winery was. Ive heard loosely it was a team track / transload situation . Anybody else care to add their two cents? I'm certainly not sure but between the video clip and old second hand information this is what I've gleaned from it.

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I know in the 70s and maybe into the 80s, the last couple of hundred feet past Borden Mercantile towards McKenzie was a de facto "team track" - gondolas for recycling were spotted there, and I think that's where Saanich Artifacts' caboose was loaded onto a flatbed.

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« Reply #552 on: Mar 7th, 2017, 1:04am »
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Indeed. I had posted the photo of the gondola being loaded at the end of the spur. As for the caboose I was fortunate to have seen it while being offloaded. Surprisingly they offloaded the caboose on Borden Mercantile's spur itself,just ahead of the grain loads. You'd think it would've been logistically better to do it at the end of track but hey, railroading has its quirks.  I just realized what the mystery track across Mackenzie may have been for: The winery. I don't mean the old winery on the west side of Quadra but rather the building that used to lie north of Mackenzie.  Its possible.

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« Reply #553 on: Mar 7th, 2017, 6:41pm »
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http://www.cvrd.bc.ca/DocumentCenter/View/64508
 
Most interesting.


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« Reply #554 on: Mar 7th, 2017, 8:06pm »
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Thanks to Dave Wilkie, here's a shot of the Victoria Pacific train after it had been dropped off at Colwood siding, before it made its own way down to Six Mile. It shone up the rails on the siding nicely. https://www.flickr.com/photos/msdwilkie/6179846574/in/album-72157627586145651/

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September 9, 1918, approximately mile 10, Cowichan Subdivision  
 
Sooke Region Museum & Archives
 
Canadian National Mogul 1018 is decorated for the spike driving ceremony at  
the current end of steel at Luxton. Optimism was high for more steel being laid soon,
but progress continued to be slow over the next several years. Indeed, it took until 1924 before rail reached Lake Cowichan.



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September, 1968, BC gov air photo [collection of Jamie Masters ]
 
This blowup of an air photo shows the Leechtown area from Sept 1968.
 
The R. Hughes pole yard is visible as well as some rail cars with poles loaded. Interesting to see some structures still standing, the old Sooke Lake Lumber Company watchman was still in place during this period, so Leechtown still looked like Leechtown.



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on Mar 6th, 2017, 12:43am, emilydm wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A question about the Saanich Spur: I found a picture in Saanich Archives of the extension of McKenzie at Borden in 1968 - looking east where they were constructing a culvert next to the CNR right-of-way. Except the tracks were still there, going left (north) out of the picture, with crossbucks visible where they crossed Borden. I thought north of McKenzie was abandoned by the late 1930s - how far north did the tracks still run by '68, and why? I can't think of any customers between McKenzie and Blenkinsop Lake.

With regards to where the Saanich Spur tracks ended in 1968, here is an excellent photo by David Davies from May of 1968, showing the tracks ending just shy of Cedar Hill X Road and Borden.https://search.nbca.unbc.ca/index.php/cnr-victoria-5


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Spring, 1957, Point Ellice barge slip [Elwood White photographer, collection of Jamie Masters ]
 
The little General Electric yard switcher # 74 is working hard moving cars at the Point Ellice slip.



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on Jan 16th, 2017, 11:34pm, alanlill wrote:       (Click here for original message)
It is great to see more of Elwood White's pictures so Thanks Jamie and also thanks to Dave for reposting his tour of the line from Point Ellice west near the end of service. I have been continuing to assemble material for a Point Ellice in CN LINES and the latest tidbit I have for discussion on this thread is one of the scans made by Les Kozma of the 1936 record plan of trackage in Victoria. Les did not scan a continuous set but did cover the wye at MP 1.6 Cowichan Sub and Point Ellice yard and most of the track to the E and N interchange including the small yard next to Johnston Street. I will post more of them if there is interest.
You will note a number of interesting things on the 1936 record plan for the yard attached including the names and function of all the tracks in the yard, an outline of the station, original freight house and customs office in the upper yard. The motor coach track is still labeled as such although that service was gone for years by then. Cheers Al Lill

 
I would be interested in those five scans you mentioned. I am drawing certain railway buildings that are long gone. Just sent you a PM.


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