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« Reply #420 on: Feb 13th, 2015, 3:11am »
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Here's a picture of Cowichan Bay from circa 2001. The tracks end(ed) just beyond that broom thicket, but I heard rumours that up until the mid 90s they were still in place as far as Tyup, in the hopes folks with track speeders could do something like the Sooke River Railway after it folded. Can anyone confirm this?


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« Reply #421 on: Feb 13th, 2015, 3:12am »
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One more picture from 2001. The switch stand is gone but the switch is still there.  
 
I wonder why a mower had recently gone over the tracks in the video?



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« Reply #422 on: Feb 13th, 2015, 12:18pm »
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I can understand from a business perspective why CN wanted to get rid of the Cowichan Sub. Look at the size of the 585/586 in the 50's, average train length was about 12 to 15 cars. With the Colquitz River, Millstream Creek and some other bridges failing inspections and needing major repairs, and the declining through traffic to Victoria there really wasn't going to be a return on any investment to upgrade the Cowichan Sub. As more of the tonnage was going off island or coming from the mainland any traffic out of the Cowichan Valley could just as easily go up the Tidewater Sub and traffic into Victoria could be barged directly in. Making that piece of track between WYE and DEERHOLME redundant.  
 
As the forestry industry collapsed in the 70's and 80's, Victoria lost a lot of industry, competition from trucks increased and the amount of work needed on the Cowichan Sub increased, there was no way CN could ever make the Cowichan Sub a profitable operation.  
 
Could a short line have operated it for a few moreyears? Maybe, but at the time selling branch lines off to short line operators wasn't happening. The line would have been shut down in 2001 anyway when the Youbou mill closed, instead of 1988.  
 
It's interesting to me that the E&N/SVI is having the exact same problems now that CN did near the end of the Cowichan Sub's life. The only thing saving the E&N is that possible grant money from the government.


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« Reply #423 on: Feb 13th, 2015, 3:55pm »
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interesting to me that the E&N/SVI is having the exact same problems now that CN did near the end of the Cowichan Sub's life. The only thing saving the E&N is that possible grant money from the government.
Pretty much sums it up doesn't it? At least six other railroads have dropped from existence on the Island and yet we have the unwavering support from some that the government should pee more money into an entity that has already been doomed to die. There is no practical purpose to the E & N other than as a potential tourist run and yet those proposing the line saved, are those in charge of saving it  are these same people were the ones who killed the railroad by damning the activities of potentials saviours of the line.


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« Reply #424 on: Feb 14th, 2015, 4:38pm »
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The 60-pound rail on most if not all of the Cowichan Sub, and the subsequent low speeds and difficulty in handling cars over 90 tons, also didn't help things. Here's a visual reference from the Snoqualmie Railroad in Washington, as to the size difference between 56 and 100 pound rail.


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« Reply #425 on: Feb 15th, 2015, 1:51am »
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That first picture Emily posted of Cowichan Bay is where Top Shelf used to unload some cars( see my reply # 280)

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« Reply #426 on: Feb 15th, 2015, 1:59am »
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Page 175 of Vancouver Island railroads, 70 Carloads from Youbou in 1986 compared to 300 a few years before. The picture of the last train shows the part loaded cars which were topped off at Cowichan Bay.
Cowichan Bay (Westcan Terminals) used to ship more cars than Youbou for awhile, it was common to see a CN unit from Deerholme run light to the bay to switch the barge and terminal.


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« Reply #427 on: Feb 25th, 2015, 10:21pm »
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1003 in Victoria. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3940022


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« Reply #428 on: Feb 26th, 2015, 2:13pm »
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1003 at Deerholme

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on Feb 26th, 2015, 2:13pm, cn2220 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
1003 at Deerholme

Is that a new name for Deerholme?


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« Reply #430 on: Feb 27th, 2015, 11:16pm »
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Still love that old original diesel paint scheme the best.

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on Feb 26th, 2015, 4:49pm, tfctrains wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Is that a new name for Deerholme?

 
More of a someone-forgot-the-actual name.


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« Reply #432 on: Apr 19th, 2015, 5:42am »
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Stumbled across this great photo from May 31st, 1965, taken by Peter Cox
at Deerholme.
http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cnr_diesel/GMD1.htm


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« Reply #433 on: Aug 3rd, 2015, 1:55am »
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I was out on the CNR line today and showed some friends the Wye at 48.1 they asked when it was put in and i cannot say for sure other than it appears on the 1943 timetable, does anyone know when it was put in? was it the same time when Kaptara siding went in?

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« Reply #434 on: Dec 11th, 2015, 12:34pm »
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February, 1957, Point Ellice Yard [Photo by Elwood White, collection of Jamie Masters ]
 
The switcher 7391, at work in the yard at Victoria. Up on the team tracks, the daily westbound freight has been assembled and awaits departure, bound for Deerholme.


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« Reply #435 on: Dec 18th, 2015, 1:08am »
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Jamie, where would the Gorge Trestle be in relation to this picture, please?


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Jamie, where would the Gorge Trestle be in relation to this picture, please?

 Dennis, the photographer would have been standing with the Bay Street Bridge at his back , looking north up the yard, with the trestle just out've sight.


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Thanks Jamie. The condo I used to live in would have been right over the water tower in the picture. Too bad the then government was in such a hurry to pull the tracks off the Goose and Lochside routes.

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« Reply #438 on: Jan 9th, 2016, 5:38pm »
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Found an amazing archive of BC railway photos taken by a Mr David Davies.
 
This is rare photo of a boxcar at Milnes Landing , mile 26.2 CNR Cowichan Sub, from October, 1969. Plenty more like it !
http://search.nbca.unbc.ca/index.php/cnr-vancouver-island-3


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9.30 am, April 19, 1989, Interchange track, Vic West [ photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
GMD1 1070 taking boxcar back to Point Ellice Yard for unloading. This was the last load  
other than grain cars, that I observed CN handling in Victoria, before they left for good in February of 1990.


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