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« Reply #1240 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 9:22pm »
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$25-30 sounds good to me, I'll be buying a copy when your finished

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« Reply #1241 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 12:39am »
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on Jun 17th, 2009, 6:52pm, CP8673 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Seems reasonable.  You might want to check with Helmut Wissenger, who did the KVR video and some others.  I beleive he sells his for $25 at train shows.

That sounds about right....
I have Helmut's E&N which includes a Port Turn.  It is VHS, though.
 
I personally have issues with paying anything more than $12-15 for a DVD.  VHS- when it was "the" media I thought was a gouge over $19.  Call me cheap; but a blank DVD is, what, $.25-.50 or less in bulk?  
IF you are selling to mail-order; sell for $15 inc postage - domestic.
IF you are selling at a train show, and it's over 75 mins, then maybe $25; to recuperate your table cost.


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« Reply #1242 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 2:36pm »
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on Jun 18th, 2009, 12:39am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

That sounds about right....
I have Helmut's E&N which includes a Port Turn.  It is VHS, though.
 
I personally have issues with paying anything more than $12-15 for a DVD.  VHS- when it was "the" media I thought was a gouge over $19.  Call me cheap; but a blank DVD is, what, $.25-.50 or less in bulk?  
IF you are selling to mail-order; sell for $15 inc postage - domestic.
IF you are selling at a train show, and it's over 75 mins, then maybe $25; to recuperate your table cost.

 
Actually name brand DVDs are now about, oh, 15 cents a piece now so the actual cost of the final product in materials is almost nothing.
 
The costs that have to be paid for is the investment in equipment. At the time I shot that video, I had about $7000.00 invested in gear. Now that I have moved to full broadcast HD production, I've added nearly $20,000 worth to the total.
 
Sadly the Port trip wasn't shot in HD but it was shot with a very nice camera, for the time but if I can find some time in the next while, I'm hoping to shoot a little Vancouver Island action in HD.
 
And of course if I hire someone to write some music instead of doing it myself, there's a cost involved there. And a narrator if I hire someone will also add to my bottom line.
 
My goal though is to do something and sell it for a fair price though so I'm reading these comments with interest.
 
And before you think "Music, narrator? NO!" don't worry, I have an interesting idea for the DVD.
 
There's some sample stills from the video here:
 
http://web.uvic.ca/~jasonk/samplephotos_000.htm
 
Cheers.
 
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« Reply #1243 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 4:29pm »
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Actually name brand DVDs are now about, oh, 15 cents a piece now so the actual cost of the final product in materials is almost nothing.
 
The costs that have to be paid for is the investment in equipment. At the time I shot that video, I had about $7000.00 invested in gear. Now that I have moved to full broadcast HD production, I've added nearly $20,000 worth to the total.
 
Sadly the Port trip wasn't shot in HD but it was shot with a very nice camera, for the time but if I can find some time in the next while, I'm hoping to shoot a little Vancouver Island action in HD.
 
And of course if I hire someone to write some music instead of doing it myself, there's a cost involved there. And a narrator if I hire someone will also add to my bottom line.
 
My goal though is to do something and sell it for a fair price though so I'm reading these comments with interest.
 
And before you think "Music, narrator? NO!" don't worry, I have an interesting idea for the DVD.
 
There's some sample stills from the video here:
 
http://web.uvic.ca/~jasonk/samplephotos_000.htm
 
Cheers.
 
J\

 
Sorry about the length .. and leaving in both previous quotes ... BUT
As someone who dabbles in video production, and who has also done voice-over narration on a professional basis for more years than I care to remember, I fully understand the amount of time that goes into producing a video.
Even at $25 to $30, the producer is going to have to be extremely fortunate to wind up with enough profit to buy himself a Happy Meal!
Remember, regular video is shot at approx 30 frames per second. (HD is usually 60 frames/second). I have seen myself spend more than an hour to come up with about five seconds of finished video, when it comes to ensuring good edits, especially when working with raw sound.
The market for this type of video is actually quite small -- maybe a few hundred will be sold -- over the next five to ten years!
But if the producer has spent hundreds of hours to put it together, then the costs of having the duplicates made, labels printed, cases printed etc (all up-front costs by the way), he should probably be charging much more than 25 to 30 dollars if he values his own time at anything over minimum wage!
I will now get down off my soapbox.
Thanks
Will


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« Reply #1244 on: Jun 19th, 2009, 1:15am »
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Personally, twenty-five to thirty would be fine by me, as I understand how small the acutal market for this would be.
 
I have a few other videos of Island railroading, and they have generally have cost me that much in Canadian funds, not to mention any that have come from the US or other places.


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« Reply #1245 on: Jul 19th, 2009, 2:21pm »
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North switch Langford...just because I was there and the train wasn't

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« Reply #1246 on: Jul 19th, 2009, 2:22pm »
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Still waiting...closeup of the lock

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« Reply #1247 on: Jul 19th, 2009, 2:23pm »
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Dayliner leaving after picking up most of the passengers

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« Reply #1248 on: Jul 19th, 2009, 2:25pm »
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Because someone mistook the bus drivers washroom for the station, they stopped to pick up the rest of the passengers giving me time to make it a few blocks north for this one.

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« Reply #1249 on: Jul 20th, 2009, 9:08pm »
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Because someone mistook the bus drivers washroom for the station, they stopped to pick up the rest of the passengers giving me time to make it a few blocks north for this one.

 
 
Thats funny , well if all goes well, it will be the future station site.


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« Reply #1250 on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:21pm »
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Today's Duncan turn at Chemainus waiting for the Budds to go by

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« Reply #1251 on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:22pm »
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Dayliner @ Chemainus

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« Reply #1252 on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:24pm »
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Duncan Turn leaving shortly thereafter

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« Reply #1253 on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:28pm »
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Arriving at Top Shelf

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« Reply #1254 on: Jul 21st, 2009, 5:29pm »
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Another one from Top Shelf...went home afterwards

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« Reply #1255 on: Jul 21st, 2009, 6:25pm »
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That your Ford Focus??

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That your Ford Focus??

Nope...my ride would be the white Grand Marquis in the switch stand photo.


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« Reply #1257 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 3:18am »
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Nope...my ride would be the white Grand Marquis in the switch stand photo.

You trying to be the E&N Rail Police?  


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on Jul 22nd, 2009, 3:18am, Pyronova wrote:       (Click here for original message)

You trying to be the E&N Rail Police?  

I must say I have a greater number of people slowing down around me than I do on the occasions I have dad's car.  Sometimes that's a big P I T A when trying to get to the next photo location.


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« Reply #1259 on: Jul 24th, 2009, 10:48am »
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I must say I have a greater number of people slowing down around me than I do on the occasions I have dad's car.  Sometimes that's a big P I T A when trying to get to the next photo location.

 
I hear ya.  A friend of mine has a former Ford police interceptor (the real deal, after the Calgary Police Service were done abusing it) and on a drive back from Regina, we had a fair number of people slow down/move over/not bother passing us due to the look of the car.
 
But on the highway, if we wanted someone to move over, we'd put ourselves half on the median shoulder and people would move over real quick.  I've tried doing the same maneuver in my VW Golf and had no success.  
 
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