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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #40 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 7:25pm »
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The Caldwell loop was the outermost terminal for the #29 subway-surface car line; this modest, long-gone terminal was also shared with buses, including DE CAMP's long-gone #22 to Journal Square (Jersey City), and MOUNTAIN COACHES' #144 to Newark (both of these bus lines have now been gone for many years; I knew both quite well in my younger days)
 
As mentioned earlier, this line (based out of Bell St., Montclair) was the very last of the old subway-surface car operations, ending service in early 1952.
 
In the early/mid 60's, the old trolley rails were still visible here.
 
This terminal no longer exists; the site today has be redeveloped for non-transit use.......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/psct/htm/psct042.htm
 
(photo courtesy of Dave's Electric Railroads)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #41 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 7:31pm »
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This wintry scene shows deck-roofer #2667 (running inbound on the #7 CITY SUBWAY line) about to enter the subway portal just outside of the Warren Street station.
 
Today, such historic cars are but distant memories, and modern LRV's now operate here...........
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/psct/htm/psct059.htm
 
(photo courtesy of Dave's Electric Railroads)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #42 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 7:38pm »
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Although the distinctive rooftop route number box here displays a "23" (for the #23 CENTRAL subway-surface line) this car is operating on a special run (perhaps a fan trip) sometime during the 1940's.
 
The cars of this route entered and left the Subway via inclined ramps and a trestle, at the Norfolk St. station......
 
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/psct/htm/psct069.htm
 
(photo courtesy of Dave's Electric Railroads)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #43 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 7:43pm »
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Another view (about 1950) of the old stub terminal for the #7 at Franklin Avenue.
 
A PSNJ bus awaits transferring passengers from Subway car #2681.
 
Nothing seen here remains today......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/psct/htm/psct040.htm
 
(photo courtesy of Dave's Electric Railroads)


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on Feb 18th, 2013, 2:32am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Today, a new "through" station, "BRANCH BROOK PARK", has replaced the old Franklin Avenue loop and station on the Newark Light Rail (the line is no longer officially known by its old and historic name, the "Newark City Subway".
 
It just ain't the same......
 
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?27685
 
(photo courtesy of nycsubway.org)

 
HFM:
Things have changed, but it will always be the Newark City Subway to me.  
 
Franklin Ave = Branch Brook Park? Heller Parkway is the better choice for a stop to visit the park. IMHO
 
Here is an PCC waiting to leave for Newark. I really enjoyed riding the PCC cars.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #45 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 7:56pm »
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PASSAIC WHARF......the PSNJ's equivelent of the legendary "elephant's burial ground"
 
Though a streetcar/bus service facility for many years, it later became a place of death and destruction; in the late 30's, when many ESSEX, HUDSON, and BERGEN division lines were converted over to ASV's or motor buses, the now-obsolete streetcars were brought here on their final runs.
 
Most cars were simply destroyed, and their remains burned and cut up.
 
However, a number of cars were stored here for several years; after the outbreak of WW2 these cars were brought out of storage and hauled by flatbed (by this time, there was no longer a surface car connection to any existing rail lines) and trucked to the Roseville and Greenville facilities, where they were refurbished and brought back to life, carrying the masses of war workers to and from the defense plants.
 
After the war, these cars became surplus yet again, and were soon cut up for scrap.
 
The sign of this soon-to-be-scrapped antique reads "HUSON RIVER"; until 1938, this line ran from the bustling 125th St. Ferry Terminal at Edgewater to Paterson, utilizing long stretches of private ROW.
 
This line passed within a few blocks of where I have now lived for many years.
 
Note the JEWETT interurban car body on the left; this was formerly a car of the NORTH JERSEY RAPID TRANSIT, and, until the line folded in 1928, ran between Paterson, NJ, and Suffern.
 
During its years of service, this car and her sisters featured stained glass in the window arches.
 
At the time of this photo, the old car body was being used as a yard office/crew lounge.
 
As you might expect, it, too, was later destroyed.......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/psct/htm/psct049.htm
 
(photo courtesy of Dave's Electric Railroads)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #46 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 8:06pm »
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NEFAN:
 
GREAT PIC!
 
Who knows?
 
We might have crossed paths, back then!
 
From 1971 through 1974, I was a frequent visitor to the NCS shops under Penn Station.
 
Thanks to the kindness of then Superintendent Bob Kittler (himself, a veteran PSNJ trolley man) I was allowed to visit the shops, take photos, and explore the old abandoned surface line ramps at Norfolk Street and Bloomfield Avenue.
 
I was even allowed the rare priveledge of riding old flatbed work car (cut down from one of the old deck-roofers) on several occasions; another time, another old PSNJ trolley man took me down the tunnel to the old outbound Cedar St. connector tunnel, to climb aboard and inspect the old sweepers and plow.
 
He even raised the poles and got the compressors going, and I was even allowed to clang the gong!
 
What an experience!
 
Over time, I was even given a few souveniers, which, today, are treasured parts of my archives.
 
To me, the "City Subway" ceased to exist when the PCC's were retired.......it just was not the same.....
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #47 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 8:16pm »
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From my childhood days, through my teens, these timeless scenes were ones that were most familiar to me.
 
How well I recall the feeling of truly "stepping back in time" whenever I descended the long stairway down to CITY SUBWAY platform level at Penn Station; the rows of silent PCC's, patiently awaiting the next rush hour.
 
It truly made for a timeless, memorable experience, one that I am truly grateful that I was lucky enough to have experienced......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/psct/htm/psct056.htm
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/psct/htm/psct057.htm
 
(photos courtesy of Dave's Electric Railroads)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #48 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 8:25pm »
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In this long-ago winter's day scene, we see inbound PCC #10 passing the old ramps that, until 1952, carried cars of the #29 BLOOMFIELD subway-surface line up to street level.
 
The car is signed "SPECIAL"; perhaps this car was being used to train motormen when the PCC's were replacing the old deck-roof cars, in late 1953 and early 1954.
 
Note that the overhead is still intact on the old #29 ramp, and the rails are still in place, under the snow.
 
Today, these ramps still remain, devoid of rails and overhead...........
 
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?30589
 
(photo courtesy of nycsubway.org)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #49 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 8:44pm »
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It's "summer V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N" (thank you, Miss Connie Francis of Newark!), and these two elderly sweepers have been brought out to play for a fantrip, seen here at the old Orange St. Grade crossing.
 
Until 1951, cars of the #21 ORANGE switched off here; also, cars headed to and from the Roseville car barns.
 
I was once lucky enough to inspect these historic vehicles about 40 years ago, as they slept out the summer in the old Cedar St. connector tunnel.
 
These old cars simply shouted "TRACTION!"...........
 
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78377
 
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78387
 
(photos courtesy of nycsubway.org)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #50 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 9:29pm »
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An outbound PCC is seen here about to cross Orange St.; this was the only grade crossing on the Subway back in the old days.
 
This car will also cross above the cut where the former DL&W Morris & Essex line runs.
 
This scene is a very different one today......
 
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?18973
 
(photo courtesy of nycsubway.org)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Looks like the "juice fans" are once again out in force; this view ast Newark's ROSEVILLE car barn dates to about 1936.
 
Here, big sweeper #5175 looks quite menacing, and more than ready to go into action, when duty calls!
 
Note the car on the right, with number box displaying #13; this line originally terminated in the lower level of the PS Terminal; for a brief time in later years, this line was extended through the Cedar St. subway to Penn Station.
 
In 1937, the #13 was coverted to ASV (dual-powered trolley coach) operation.......
 
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117965


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Looks like the "juice fans" are once again out in force; this view at Newark's ROSEVILLE car barn dates to about 1936.
 
Here, big sweeper #5175 looks quite menacing, and more than ready to go into action, when duty calls!
 
Note the car on the right, with number box displaying #13; this line originally terminated in the lower level of the PS Terminal; for a brief time in later years, this line was extended through the Cedar St. subway to Penn Station.
 
In 1937, the #13 was converted to ASV (dual-powered trolley coach) operation.......
 
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117965
 
(photo courtesy of nycsubway.org)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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On a bright, sunny day about 1950, we see a car operating an outbound #21 ORANGE schedule leaving the Subway at Orange Street, wheels screeching in protest.
 
After this line was converted to buses, the switches were removed, and the trackage on Orange Street paved over......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/psct/htm/psct082.htm
 
(photo courtesy of Dave's Electric Railroads)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #54 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 9:57pm »
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The end of a long, proud, and colorful era.....for me, on this sad day in traction history, the CITY SUBWAY, as I knew it, ceased to exist.......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/nj/htm/njt03.htm
 
(photo courtesy of Dave's Electric Railroads)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #55 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 10:03pm »
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"A MOMENT IN TIME".........
 
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?78328
 
(photo courtesy of nycsubway.org)
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Also of interest......
 
http://www.oldnewark.com/busind/tranportation/subway.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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See also.......
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newark_Light_Rail


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #58 on: Feb 19th, 2013, 10:33pm »
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Throughout the PS, TNJ, and NJT eras, buses would substitute for the subway cars whenever major track or construction work needed to be done.
 
In this wonderfully dated scene from 1960, we see passengers boarding PSNJ Old Look J323; note the homemade placard taped to the destination sign, telling riders that the bus is operating in substitute subway service.
 
So many things here wonderfully date this nostalgic old scene of a bygone Newark........
 
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1501
 
(photo courtesy of bus.nycsubway.org)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Another nostalgic scene, this one dating to 1974.
 
Here we see TNJ (ex-PSNJ) Fishbowl X357 awaiting Subway passengers (a PCC can just be glimpsed on the other side of the platform)
 
During the mid-day and weekend hours, this little station seemed a tranquil oasis, far and away removed from the hustle and bustle of downtown Newark.
 
Today, the PCC's and Fishbowls are long gone, as is the old station.......
 
http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2377
 
(photo courtesy of bus.nycsubway.org)


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