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A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway
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JhnZ33
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« Reply #80 on: Jun 10th, 2006, 7:56pm »
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Here is a photo taken today of this same bridge. Photo was taken looking southeast.

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JhnZ33
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« Reply #81 on: Jun 10th, 2006, 8:00pm »
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Again, another photo from the WB&H RY book. The caption says the photo was taken looking south in 1970, but actually, the photo was taken looking NORTH.  
 
Compare this picture to the one we took below, noting the direction of super-elevation of the bridge.


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JhnZ33
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« Reply #82 on: Jun 10th, 2006, 8:04pm »
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A photo taken today looking south. We were definately looking south as Blytheburn station, which is north of this bridge, would be 1/2 to 3/4 miles behind us.  
 
Note that the super-elevation is opposite the one taken in 1970. Chalk it up to a typo in the book.


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« Reply #83 on: Jun 10th, 2006, 8:09pm »
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Since John and myself could not find a road to drive out to the tunnel and I only know the hard way. I went back in to my ATV photos today and found pictures I had taken about 3 years ago out at the Tunnel and scanned them in. Enjoy!  
RR  
 
 


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« Reply #84 on: Jun 10th, 2006, 8:10pm »
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Here is one from the inside. Scarry and unsafe to say the least.
RR  
 
 


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JhnZ33
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« Reply #85 on: Jun 10th, 2006, 8:20pm »
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Nice pics, Rick.

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JhnZ33
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« Reply #86 on: Jun 10th, 2006, 8:35pm »
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Walking along the line between Blytheburn station and Big Wapwallopen Creek, we happened to spot that the poles along the ROW still had some original WB&H insulators in use.
 
Although some of the poles looked newer, I've been told that many a time when they (PP&L) needed to replace a pole, they would unbolt the crossmember with the insulators and wires intact, cut down the original pole and just bolt the crossmember back to the new pole. Seems to be a stardard practice to save time and money.


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« Reply #87 on: Jun 10th, 2006, 10:49pm »
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For anyone who's curious as to where we were today looking at a map, I'm providing one below with a few details added. (ROW shown as the pinkish/purple line)
 
This map I have does not show anything south of Blytheburn station, I apologize for that. The concrete overpass at Blytheburn would be to the immediate south of Blytheburn station, and the bridge over Big Wapwallopen Creek would be about 1/2 to 3/4 miles south of the station.


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Josh U.
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« Reply #88 on: Jun 10th, 2006, 11:05pm »
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Great pics guys.

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JhnZ33
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« Reply #89 on: Jun 11th, 2006, 10:02am »
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on Jun 10th, 2006, 11:05pm, Josh U. wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great pics guys.

 
Thanks Josh. We plan on doing some more exploring of the line in the near future, would you be interested in joining us?
 
 
John


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« Reply #90 on: Jun 11th, 2006, 1:46pm »
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on Jun 11th, 2006, 10:02am, JhnZ33 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Thanks Josh. We plan on doing some more exploring of the line in the near future, would you be interested in joining us?
 
 
John

 
I would love that. Thanks for the offer.


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« Reply #91 on: Jun 13th, 2006, 2:16pm »
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I'm sorry it took so long, but here's my insulator with a standard twelve inch ruler next to it.

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« Reply #92 on: Jun 13th, 2006, 6:30pm »
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on Jun 13th, 2006, 2:16pm, Josh U. wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I'm sorry it took so long, but here's my insulator with a standard twelve inch ruler next to it.

 
No problem Josh, thanks for posting the photo.
 
 
John


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« Reply #93 on: Jun 13th, 2006, 9:13pm »
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I took these pics a while ago, but I forgot to post them. They are of the concrete overpasses that sit along interstate 81 on approach to West Hazleton, on Butler Mountain. There are three of them, but only two can be seen from the interstate, the other is down near the bottom of the mountain, after the interstate curves away from it. The ROW is only intact on certain parts of the mountain, the rest was cut away when the interstate was constructed.
 
These two overpasses can be reached via the power line trails from the top of the mountain, near the Penn State High Acres campus (formerly Conyngham Gap). The other must be reached from the bottom of the mountain. The power line trail comes down adjacent to the ROW and the interstate, and the access road even follows the WB and H ROW for a short distance at one point, before making an overturned "L" shape in the mountain.
 
I think I read in a book somewhere, where they mistook the overpass in this picture for one of the portals of the Nuangola Tunnel. Little do they know it's a good 20 miles from here!


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« Reply #94 on: Jun 13th, 2006, 9:19pm »
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Here is the other. This is north of the previous one, and not as conspicuous. A tractor trailer on the interstate can be seen through the arch.

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« Reply #95 on: Jun 13th, 2006, 9:24pm »
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And the last picture for now. This is taken from the power line trail, where it follows part of the ROW. It shows the Butler Valley (home, sweet home), and I've marked where Nescopeck Pass is located on the opposing mountain.

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« Reply #96 on: Jun 13th, 2006, 9:44pm »
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Nice pics Josh. I've seen those along 81 a few times, but never new what they were until about 8 months ago.
 
Ya know, now that I think about it, I don't think these were mentioned in the book.


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« Reply #97 on: Jun 14th, 2006, 12:05pm »
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on Jun 13th, 2006, 9:44pm, JhnZ33 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Nice pics Josh. I've seen those along 81 a few times, but never new what they were until about 8 months ago.
 
Ya know, now that I think about it, I don't think these were mentioned in the book.

 
Thanks John. No, he didn't mention these in the book, probably because they are little in comparison to the other structures built.


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on Jun 14th, 2006, 12:05pm, Josh U. wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Thanks John. No, he didn't mention these in the book, probably because they are little in comparison to the other structures built.

 
Smaller or not, they are significant to the WB&H RR. They help pinpoint the ROW in this area for those of us who wish to chase the ghost interurbans and history of the line.
 
Now matter the size of the artifact, it is still just that, an ARTIFACT!
 
 
John


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« Reply #99 on: Jun 14th, 2006, 9:28pm »
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on Jun 14th, 2006, 4:07pm, JhnZ33 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Smaller or not, they are significant to the WB&H RR. They help pinpoint the ROW in this area for those of us who wish to chase the ghost interurbans and history of the line.
 
Now matter the size of the artifact, it is still just that, an ARTIFACT!
 
 
John

 
My sentiments exactly!  
 
No matter how many times I've seen one of these artifacts, it's always exciting to find one I haven't seen yet.


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