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RDG484
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Re: Illinois Traction and other Midwest Interurban
 
« Reply #60 on: Mar 31st, 2005, 8:16pm »
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The first time I rode the P&W was 1969, the last year of Red Arrow ownership.  The next time I rode was after the SEPTA takeover.  It had been changed from a railroad style operation to a trolley operation, which may have halved labor costs, but going into the 1980's, one-man operation and non-railroad operating rules contributed to the rash of accidents they had at that time.  In fact, P&W's track speed was only 1 MPH less than the track speed on what is now the Northeast Corridor at that time; 79 vs. 80 MPH.  
 
I would imagine riding the Liberty Bell Route was in some ways similar to riding the C&LE, i.e., single-track, some street running, high-speeds, with passing sidings; just a little more hilly.


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Walt_C
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Re: Illinois Traction and other Midwest Interurban
 
« Reply #61 on: Apr 1st, 2005, 12:13pm »
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LVT's Liberty Bell Route WAS very similar to C&LE, and, of course, after 1939 used former C&LE Red Devil Cars ( as the LVT 1000's) I don't know, off hand, whether the Liberty Route was block signal protected  north of Norristown, but LVT managed to avoid the kind of fatal head on collisions that had plagued the C&LE-- even though LVT was using the same cars.

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Please move to the rear and speed your ride-Regards, Walt
RDG484
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Re: Illinois Traction and other Midwest Interurban
 
« Reply #62 on: Apr 1st, 2005, 8:36pm »
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The LVT used signals at the sidings, but it didn't stop one major accident from happening.  I think it was the 1003 that smashed head-on into a Jewett freight car, which had been converted from an MU passenger car.

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RDG484
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« Reply #63 on: Apr 4th, 2005, 5:14pm »
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Here's a shot of a northbound train splitting a set of C&O-style color-light automatics, approaching King Manor.  Just think:  This "trolley" line USED to be a bona-fide railroad, and operated as though it were a Class I !!!!
 
The C&LE "Red Devils" ran on this same stretch of ABS-signaled railroad before going out on their own at Norristown.  The only time you saw signals at all on the LVT was at the passing sidings.



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CarterB
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Re: Illinois Traction and other Midwest Interurban
 
« Reply #64 on: Jun 14th, 2006, 5:23pm »
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Other than the ITS sleeper "Peoria" at the IRM and the ex Interstate Public Service sleeper (PGE) "Clinton", did any other interurban sleepers survive?
 
Are either of the two above restored inside? and/or what is their current condition?


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CarterB
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Re: Illinois Traction and other Midwest Interurbans
 
« Reply #65 on: Oct 4th, 2007, 3:37pm »
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I have heard that IRM is in process of restoring cars 233 and 234?  Any plans for either of them to be "operable" in a sense of being pulled, since traction motors are long gone?

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JohnB
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Re: Illinois Traction and other Midwest Interurban
 
« Reply #66 on: Jun 28th, 2008, 11:50am »
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on Oct 23rd, 2003, 11:31am, pierre630 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
anyone have any info and photos of the chicago ottawa and peoria or chicago and illinois valley they were part of illinois terminal system for about 10 years i belong all the yahoo groups and  iths thank you

I've seen a bunch of photos of different electric roads that served in Illinois on Dave's Electric Railroads.net. They even show the C&IV & CO&P,as well as,the C&JE. They have a photo of  CO&P's car before it became a part of the ITC roster. Give it a shot,you'll be hooked as I am. John Baletto,Alsip,IL


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CarterB
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Re: Illinois Traction and other Midwest Interurbans
 
« Reply #67 on: May 23rd, 2011, 1:12pm »
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Just trying to resurrect this Interurban subject.

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