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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway - By Josh U. on 08/08/07 at 15:05:58 - 'wbh_1.jpg' 308 KB
And lastly, a picture of one of several snapped transmission line poles, like John spoke of, that litter the ROW below 81.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway - By Josh U. on 08/08/07 at 15:04:07 - 'map.jpg' 269 KB
Here's a map showing the places where I took the pictures. And the dotted line shows where the ROW went beneath the fill.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway - By Josh U. on 08/08/07 at 14:50:12 - 'wbh_3.jpg' 300 KB
Here is another shot, from beyond where it gets cut off, looking towards Sugar Notch.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway - By Josh U. on 08/08/07 at 14:45:25 - 'wbh_2.jpg' 394 KB
A couple weeks later, me and a friend followed the old LVRR ROW from the Alden Mountain Road over to the area where the north portal would be. Probably about a 5 or 6 mile round trip.  
 
I saw the water that drains out of the fill, but I wasn't able to get to the area where it drains from. We then got up on the old ROW, and walked down.
 
There was an area where the ROW got cut off by the interstate fill again, but further down, it emerged again, and we followed it a bit longer.
 
Here is the higher part of the ROW, looking in the direction of the tunnel, right before it got cut off again.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway - By Josh U. on 08/08/07 at 14:40:01 - 'wbh_4.jpg' 408 KB
That same day, I hiked over to the Solomon Creek viaduct. I also walked on the gravity railroad a bit as well.
 
Here's a shot of the viaduct.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway - By Josh U. on 08/08/07 at 14:32:41 - 'wbh_5.jpg' 263 KB
Lately, I've had some free time, so I've been trying to get out along parts of the ROW that I haven't seen before, or haven't seen in a while.
 
First off, I went to the tunnel, and walked further back in than before, but still not all the way through. I did, however, get this picture of the mouth, and lightened it a bit, so you can see some of the rock formations.
 
I also made a discovery that I didn't notice last time. Outside the mouth of the tunnel laying right in the middle of the ROW, there is what appears to be concrete, which I figure is probably that which once adorned the tunnel entrance. Unfortunately, I didn't think to snap a picture of it.

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Re: If J.G.Brill had survived - By silver_champion on 08/04/07 at 09:09:44 - 'x25.jpg' 61 KB
I have posted pictures of the Brill factory as it looks like today. Here is a picture from the past. I got the picture from Google.

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Re: Trolley Photos:New and Old - By silver_champion on 04/09/07 at 19:01:58 - 'DARBY-01.jpg' 282 KB
Hello from Darby,Pa. This is a picture of SEPTA #11 trolley. The #11 runs from Darby to downtown Philadelphia. City Hall is what it says. Its hard
to believe that these trolley are over 25 years old now.

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Re: Trolley Photos:New and Old - By silver_champion on 04/09/07 at 08:01:39 - 'h14.jpg' 98 KB
This is a picture of an PCC car from the PTC line of yesteryear here in Philly. Some of these cars like this one was rebuild and now are running
 on SEPTA line #15. This picture was taken  for the Darby Trolleyfest of  
Oct 15,2006.

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Re: Trolley Photos:New and Old - By PVMRR76 on 04/08/07 at 14:04:18 - 'RIVSTCAR1_copy.jpg' 135 KB
RTA car #462 stops at the Canal Street Station across from the impressive Aquarium of the Americas.

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Re: Trolley Photos:New and Old - By PVMRR76 on 04/08/07 at 14:01:57 - 'NOSTCARoper_copy.jpg' 108 KB
Motorman's eye view down the right of way near Riverfront Place.

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Re: Trolley Photos:New and Old - By PVMRR76 on 04/08/07 at 13:59:19 - 'NOSTCARint_copy.jpg' 107 KB
A passengers view of the interior of RTA car 460. These cars were nearly brand new when I shot the photos in April 2004. Many of these trolleys were heavily damaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

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Trolley Photos:New and Old - By PVMRR76 on 04/08/07 at 13:54:03 - 'RIVSTCARfront_copy.jpg' 126 KB
There is no general photo discussion board in Traction- so I am starting one. Lets post those trolley photos. Operational line of today or long gone lines of the past.
 
I'll start things off with some photos from New Orleans Regional Transit Authority's riverfront line    
shot in April 2004.

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Re: If J.G.Brill had survived - By silver_champion on 03/29/07 at 14:15:46 - 'b3_1280x960.jpg' 232 KB
In this picture you will see the inside of the old Brill Factory. Nothing but
old car tires are in the old building today.

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Re: If J.G.Brill had survived - By silver_champion on 03/29/07 at 14:09:57 - 'b1_1088x816.jpg' 244 KB
This is all that is left of the Brill Factory today. A shopping center
takes most of the land that the factory was on.

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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By Josh U. on 03/28/07 at 22:15:21 - 'drums.jpg' 109 KB
Here's a shot I got the other day of the old Drums station.
 
It's kind of hard to make out, unfortunately. The sun was pretty bright. It seems as though the actual top of the platform has fallen through, or been destroyed, but the base walls remain.

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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By MtnDave on 02/25/07 at 11:27:06 - 'Close_up_aerial_of_Alberdeen_crossing.jpg' 45 KB
I pulled the 1939 Aerial photo and it shows the current road straigh thru as well as a loop that goes under the RoW.  Since there were no grade level crossings I suspect that the road was straightened out after the line was closed down.  
 
If you follow the RoW south you can see the Main Road underpass.
 
 
MtnDave


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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By MtnDave on 02/25/07 at 01:39:30 - 'Alberdeen_Road_RoW_overpass_795x596.jpg' 128 KB
Howdy Josh,
 
Well the wintry weather curtailed exploration for a bit.  But on the bright side I have finally had a chance to do some snow shoeing.
 
Yup, the old roadbed pops right out in the snow.  the road, which I suspect was the original path of Alberdeed Road, goes under the RoW and runs behind several new homes built along Main Road.  This overpass is less than 100 yards from the filled in Main Road underpass.  
 
I'm going to take another look at the old aerial photos to see if it shows this road.  
 
As soon as the weather breaks I will be back on the project of plotting out some more.  I'll give a shout and some of us could team up if interested.  I sure could use some guidence off the mountain.
 
Well, tha's all for now.  
 


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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By Josh U. on 01/04/07 at 23:49:20 - 'pole_3.jpg' 237 KB
And lastly, this is the two insulators, the closer one being the more damaged one. The arrow points to the bottom of the pole from the previous picture.

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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By Josh U. on 01/04/07 at 23:47:31 - 'pole_2.jpg' 237 KB
This one I am sure is the bottom of a transmission line pole (the one on the far right). The insulator on the bottom left is the one now in my possession. The damage you see on the top is the only damage it has sustained.

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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By Josh U. on 01/04/07 at 23:44:57 - 'pole.jpg' 273 KB
Here is some pictures of what I saw when I found the new insulator the other day.
 
When I walked back into the woods, I saw this long timber, which may have been a transmission line pole, but I can't tell. If so, this may be the base of it in the lower right corner. I have reason to believe it was a pole and not a tree because of a metal bar attached to it (which is circled, but hard to see in the pic), with a metal wire attached to it.
 
However, due to the placement of it, even if that is a pole, that may not be its base.

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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By JhnZ33 on 01/03/07 at 19:27:47 - 'RR_ROW_MAP1939cut11ac.jpg' 125 KB
Chunk 2 a little further north.

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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By JhnZ33 on 01/03/07 at 18:57:42 - 'RR_ROW_MAP1939cut12a.jpg' 212 KB
Ok, first chunk showing the area near the Brass Rail restaurant.

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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By MtnDave on 01/02/07 at 22:27:54 - 'Mystery_beams_862x647.jpg' 114 KB
The mystery beams.
 


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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By Josh U. on 12/28/06 at 12:01:09 - 'edited_Copy_of_Picturejru2s_camer_076.jpg' 61 KB
on Dec 27th, 2006, 2:04am, jimboylan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
When Dan Green and I first explored the tunnel in 1975, we left a pen and notebook in a 5 gallon pickle jar at the far end, and painted "Visitors' Register - Sign Here" on a nearby rock.  Did any of you notice it? It was gone when we returned in 1981.
The far North end of the tunnel starts to curve to the right before ending at a pile of dirt and small stones with a corrugated drain pipe under it.  Has anyone found the other end of the that pipe?

 
I've got to say, the pickle jar idea was good. However, I wasn't even born until several years after that. lol.
 
I have wanted to go all the way through the tunnel, but the last time I was up there, my friend and I chickened out (not mention we were running low on our time limit). We did leave a long stick leaning up against the east wall to mark how far we had gotten. It wasn't very far, only far enough to see the timbers that hold the ceiling in place (where it starts to become more square-shaped inside).
 
Here's a photo of the mouth of the south end, for the hell of it.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 12/15/06 at 08:31:01 - 'HazTrolley1.jpg' 18 KB
on Dec 11th, 2006, 2:59pm, Josh U. wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here is a closer photo of the old rails from the WB & H. I wasn't sure if they actually were the old rails or not, until I got a closer look at them. Now they sit, rotting away, in the acid mine drainage from the Jeddo Mine Tunnel.

 
Nice pic Josh. According to documentation, the WB&H used 95 pounds per yard rail. If you get a chance and can get closer to the rail, you should take some measurements of the dimensions of the rail.
 
By the way, if you're looking for another book to supplement the WB&H book you have by Quinby, you should pick up "Hazelton's Trolleys" by Benson Rohrbeck.
You can find them new on ebay directly from BEN ROHRBECK TRACTION PUBLICATIONS for $22.00. The book contains photos, maps and text not found in Quinby's book. The book also mentions the "W-B Terminal RR" I mentioned a few posts back and goes into detail about the specifics of construction right down to the type and dimesions of wire used for transmission and telephone wires.
 
Hope you find the info useful.
 
 
John


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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By Josh U. on 12/11/06 at 15:15:55 - 'edited_Picturejru2s_camer_561.jpg' 109 KB
Here is a picture of the remnants of whatever structure once sat atop the platform. These timbers may be from pillars, like in the first picture of the Nuangola Station. However, there are bricks and other pieces lying around, perhaps from another structure.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By Josh U. on 12/11/06 at 14:59:24 - 'edited_Copy_of_Picturejru2s_camer_558.jpg' 292 KB
Here is a closer photo of the old rails from the WB & H. I wasn't sure if they actually were the old rails or not, until I got a closer look at them. Now they sit, rotting away, in the acid mine drainage from the Jeddo Mine Tunnel.

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Re: Frank J. Sprague....who?? - By silver_champion on 11/27/06 at 09:02:24 - 'w.jpg' 14 KB
I like MU's and Thanks everyone for the info on the subject. Here is a picture of Mr. Frank J. Sprague.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 11/08/06 at 19:38:32 - 'PRR_WBH007a.jpg' 101 KB
Blueprint map of the proposed line:

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 11/08/06 at 19:30:00 - 'PRR_WBH006a.jpg' 68 KB
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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 11/08/06 at 19:22:41 - 'PRR_WBH005a.jpg' 136 KB
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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 11/08/06 at 19:09:36 - 'PRR_WBH003a.jpg' 50 KB
A little item I scored off of ebay recently.
 
It is a proposal by the Pennsylvania Railroad company to extend the line of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway from it terminus in Ashley (it's original alignment in 1903) to Wilkes-Barre near the Laurel Line terminal, currently under construction. This section of proposed line to be called the "Wilkes-Barre Terminal Railroad.
 
Check out the attached scans.
 
 
The cover:

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By P+W_bullet_train on 11/05/06 at 18:43:27 - 'Photo_2006_11_5_23_23_2_edited.jpg' 128 KB
View from the Franklin Ave. platform, an outbound car has just left Heller Parkway station.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 11/05/06 at 12:40:05 - 'Photo_2006_11_5_16_46_51_edited.jpg' 62 KB
Rear view.  That's my father's old 1974 Ford pickup next to the car.  This photo was taken about 1980 or so.  Hope you enjoyed!!

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 11/05/06 at 12:37:52 - 'Photo_2006_11_5_16_44_30_edited.jpg' 76 KB
No. 2701 poses at 63rd & Girard, where one can now view green PCC-II's.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 11/05/06 at 12:35:49 - 'Photo_2006_11_5_16_57_31_edited.jpg' 47 KB
An ex-Birmingham PCC on Erie Ave. working Rt. 53.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 11/05/06 at 12:32:49 - 'Photo_2006_11_5_16_55_7_edited.jpg' 52 KB
A Kansas City PCC car poses at Luzerne Loop.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 11/05/06 at 12:31:15 - 'Photo_2006_11_5_16_41_55_edited.jpg' 95 KB
Another view.  Honest, I tried to resize these photos, but I couldn't because where the photo is supposed to appear next to the instructions, a small square with 3 different color circles appears instead.  Otherwise I hate to use up so much server space.  But don't knock me for trying.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 11/05/06 at 12:24:35 - 'Photo_2006_11_5_16_39_31_edited.jpg' 66 KB
Boston and Cleveland weren't the only cities that ran 3-car "PCC" trains!!  69th St. Terminal.
 
(Actually these cars were most likely not coupled, but still makes a great photo!!)

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 11/05/06 at 12:22:18 - 'Photo_2006_11_5_16_36_58_edited.jpg' 63 KB
Here are a few photos I just dug up and scanned.  First is a St. Louis car at a crossing just a few houses away from my childhood home.  Note that the overhead has already been modified for the pantographs on the Kawasaki cars.

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Re: PCC's; With Feeling - By Pennsy on 10/15/06 at 22:55:58 - 'PCCChurch_Ave._jpg.jpg' 128 KB
Hi All,
 
John just gave me a photo of a PCC of the Church Ave. Line at the intersection of Church Ave. and Ocean Parkway, Brooklyn. This is where the PCC goes under Ocean Parkway. Both the Tunnel and the PCC's are gone now. Just had to take the photo and do some magic with it with Kodak Easyshare and here is the result. Enjoy
 
Also, no we did not vandalize or other such things as Walt delineates. I guess we were relatively good kids. Also we had a Clancy nearby. Yes, you guessed it, that was the neighborhood police officer. He was one of "the boys". That was in the days when the local cop was your friend, protector, and watched over you. And all the kids knew him by first name. We were also members of the Police Athletic League.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By Josh U. on 10/14/06 at 23:07:37 - 'Untitled-TrueColor-01.jpg' 182 KB
Another view from the front.
 
Also, I didnt get a picture of it, but near the house, there were concrete remains of something (about 20 or so yards north of the substation), but I'm not sure what it was. Possibly the remains of an old block signal?

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 10/09/06 at 01:04:56 - 'Red_Arrow_18_and_21_748x517.jpg' 53 KB
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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 10/09/06 at 00:10:43 - 'Red_Arrow_No._24.jpg' 123 KB
on Oct 8th, 2006, 4:42pm, W.G McAdoo wrote:       (Click here for original message)
                                Here is the ex-DC Transit PCC that was used for a time for automated operation testing by GE back in the 60s; as you can see from this picture, the car obviously hasn't been used in any capacity for quite some time. Note bulky testing apparatus attatched to roof. LINK URL

The large insulators under the pantograph gives this away as AC/rectifier modification.  Interesting.  BTW:  Here's another good-looking double-ender.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 10/07/06 at 19:38:21 - 'Budds_CTAs_and_N5.jpg' 163 KB
The PCC was also America's most successful rapid transit car.  CTA's pose with regauged Market-Frankford Almond Joys (regauged with PCC trucks from PATH "K" cars) and a non-PCC N-5 MU.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 10/07/06 at 19:34:34 - 'Boston_Texas_Ranger_Work_car.jpg' 55 KB
Texas Ranger converted to a work car.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 10/07/06 at 19:33:50 - 'Boston_PCC_car.jpg' 49 KB
Another.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 10/07/06 at 19:32:54 - 'Boston_PCC.jpg' 53 KB
Taken during my visit to Boston some months back.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By RDG_4-8-4 on 10/07/06 at 19:32:03 - 'Red_Arrow_No._14_carbarn.jpg' 78 KB
The closest Red Arrow ever got to a PCC (well, at least the body is unmistakeably PCC):

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By CSXvet on 10/07/06 at 18:06:59 - 'prague2.jpg' 43 KB
One more, a pair of later models, also in Prague.  The Czechs won't have anything else, and keep rebuilding them.

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Re: The PCC: America's Streetcar - By CSXvet on 10/07/06 at 18:05:17 - 'prague1.jpg' 57 KB
Actually, the PCC was far more Eastern Europe's streetcar than America's.  These Czech-built Tatra PCCs were built by the thousands for almost all cities (except Leningrad/St. Petersburg) in the USSR's sphere of influence.  They were/are Europe's finest stereetcars, in my opinion, and many are still running reliably -- unlike their low-floor replacements.  Those that I rode may not look like the classic US version, but they soundand act the same.  This one's in Prague.  (Forgive the ultra-low-resolution, but you get the idea.)

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Re: Electroliner:What might have been - By hudsonelectric on 09/29/06 at 04:50:12 - 'CNS_Electroliner_1943.jpg' 171 KB
LONG LIVE THE ELECTROLINER!  

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Brill Trolleys? - By silver_champion on 09/25/06 at 09:30:25 - 'i108.jpg' 58 KB
Back in the 1950s as a kid, I remember riding these cars on PTC #11 and #13 lines. How many of us in the Philadelphia area remember riding them to Willow Grove Park. Did Brill build these cars.

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Re: Poll: What's your favorite- Trolley, light rai - By silver_champion on 09/24/06 at 18:10:00 - '328-2.jpg' 195 KB
I like the subways. But my favorite trolley is the PCC cars. Here is a picture of a PTC trolley how they used to look before it was rebuild for todays use.

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TROLLEY RIDE COMES TO DARBY,PA. - By silver_champion on 09/24/06 at 09:23:37 - 'DSCF0070.jpg' 130 KB
On Oct. 14,2006 the will be a OCTROLLEYFEST 2006 a trolley ride on a PCC car from the PTC days. Some of these cars has been rebuild and are used on SEPTA  
Rt. 15 line in Philly. Octrolleyfest 2006  is in Darby, Pa.

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 09/06/06 at 20:11:45 - 'Joey_LVT_mural.jpg' 63 KB
Well I did what I wanted to do:  In commemoration of the 55th Anniversary of the abandonment of the Liberty Bell Route, I drove to Allentown and worked my way south, tracing the Liberty Bell Route.  Below, my 4-year old poses in front of a mural that was painted on the north side of what was the old LVT station in Quakertown, which is now a hair salon.

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 09/01/06 at 18:53:16 - '1002_80_3_793x488.jpg' 54 KB
No. 1002 and 80 again, this time meeting on the speedway.

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 09/01/06 at 18:52:26 - '1002_80_2_778x529.jpg' 59 KB
No. 1002 speeds along in a scene that's very becoming for the Liberty Bell Route.

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 09/01/06 at 18:51:32 - '1002_80_1_761x492.jpg' 62 KB
You have to tilt your head for this one.  No. 1002 and 80 on an imaginary grade.

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 08/14/06 at 20:59:36 - 'East_Penn_Meet_June_2004_011-2_768x474.jpg' 66 KB
The MP-54 is mine, the LVT "800" belongs to someone else.  Compare the proportions of the PRSL Red car with the Jewett coach.

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 08/14/06 at 20:58:11 - 'East_Penn_Meet_June_2004_007_729x460.jpg' 57 KB
Posing with someone else's 1030.

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 08/14/06 at 20:56:52 - 'East_Penn_Meet_June_2004_003.jpg' 68 KB
1002 rolls through the streets of a small town somewhere between Norristown and Allentown next to a derailed freight car.

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 08/14/06 at 20:55:41 - 'East_Penn_Meet_June_2004_001.jpg' 67 KB
My 1002 poses with someone else's 812 at a reproduction of a P&W station (wish I had my Bullets with me!!).

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 08/14/06 at 20:53:49 - 'March_9_2004_025_756x396.jpg' 51 KB
And posing at a rural station.

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Re: What if the Liberty Bell Route survived? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 08/14/06 at 20:52:59 - 'March_9_2004_024.jpg' 79 KB
Enjoy these photos of my LVT "Red Devil" No. 1002. The real 1002 was the car that raced a biplane in Ohio and ran with the "official" speed record of 97 MPH.  Its trucks are now under No. 1030 in Maine.
 
First photo shows the 1002 posing with my Red Arrow Master Unit-type car no. 80 in a reproduction of the Harrisburg train station.  This is on my friend's layout.

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Re: What is a Master Unit? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 08/07/06 at 11:24:29 - 'Red_Arrow_Master_Units_78_and_80.jpg' 71 KB
Here's my model "80" car posing with another belonging to the owner of the pictured layout.  My car is the one on the right, with the other showing off its 1950's paint scheme with the cream window band.

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Re: What is a Master Unit? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 08/07/06 at 11:18:49 - 'Red_Arrow_Master_Unit_No-1-.80_716x537.jpg' 75 KB
No. 80 is shown in Scranton, PA as the back up car for Red Arrow center-door car No. 76.  This is how the cars appeared during the 1940's, with windshield modifications and 4-way flashers.  Except for different paint schemes and smaller sealed-beam headlights, they remained unchanged for the rest of their service lives.
 
No. 80, for now, rides on Brill standard-gauge trucks that are not original and its motors are as quiet as its original GE 301's were loud.  But its original trucks are being regauged as we speak and sometime in the near future she will sing up a song like she used to.

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Re: What is a Master Unit? - By RDG_4-8-4 on 08/07/06 at 11:10:36 - 'Red_Arrow_Master_Unit_No._80-Allison.jpg' 93 KB
Here are some more photos of the cars that saved Red Arrow from bankruptcy.  No. 78 is shown passing an old Pittsburgh Rwys. shelter along PA Trolley Museum's track.  This is how the "80" cars looked when brand-new, with large one-piece windshield.  This is one of PTM's favorite cars to run.

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Re: The Brilliner: forgotten streamliner - By RDG_4-8-4 on 07/24/06 at 13:30:15 - 'Brilliner_No-1-.8_3-quarter_view_2_799x539.jpg' 62 KB
Here's another photo of Red Arrow No. 8.  Compare with the photo in Reply No. 4.

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Re: The Brilliner: forgotten streamliner - By RDG_4-8-4 on 07/22/06 at 22:02:18 - 'Brilliner_No._8_front.jpg' 28 KB
Head end view.

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Re: The Brilliner: forgotten streamliner - By RDG_4-8-4 on 07/22/06 at 22:01:18 - 'Brilliner_No._8_broadside.jpg' 36 KB
on Jul 22nd, 2006, 4:54pm, W.G McAdoo wrote:       (Click here for original message)
                              The Brilliner. The PCC's oft-forgotten cousin.  Aside from the Atlantic City orders, only five other Brilliners were built, one of which was purchased by the Baltimore Transit Company, where it ran until its retirement in the 1950s. Sadly, not one of these sleek streetcars were preserved.

 
There were 10 others, Mr. McAdoo.  You must be testing me again!!!
 
At least 4 of these specimens still exist, one of which has been cosmetically restored and runs somewhat, with one truck regauged and the other a shop truck.
 
No. 5:  PA Trolley Museum
No. 7:  Electric City Trolley Museum
No. 8 (shown):  Shore Line Trolley Museum
No. 9:  Electric City Trolley Museum (May become spare parts supply for No. 7)

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Re: LIBERTY LINERS - By RDG_4-8-4 on 06/29/06 at 14:54:28 - 'liberty_liner.jpg' 181 KB
on Dec 7th, 2005, 3:29pm, silver_champion wrote:       (Click here for original message)
  Do anyone know what happen to Red Arrows Liberty liners and are there any pictures of them.

 
 
Here's a photo of the Independence Hall, Nos. 803-804 at the Rock Hill Trolley Museum.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 22:49:06 - 'WB_MAP008b.jpg' 225 KB
For anyone who's curious as to where we were today looking at a map, I'm providing one below with a few details added. (ROW shown as the pinkish/purple line)
 
This map I have does not show anything south of Blytheburn station, I apologize for that. The concrete overpass at Blytheburn would be to the immediate south of Blytheburn station, and the bridge over Big Wapwallopen Creek would be about 1/2 to 3/4 miles south of the station.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 20:35:04 - 'WBH_ROW_TL1.jpg' 194 KB
Walking along the line between Blytheburn station and Big Wapwallopen Creek, we happened to spot that the poles along the ROW still had some original WB&H insulators in use.
 
Although some of the poles looked newer, I've been told that many a time when they (PP&L) needed to replace a pole, they would unbolt the crossmember with the insulators and wires intact, cut down the original pole and just bolt the crossmember back to the new pole. Seems to be a stardard practice to save time and money.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 20:00:18 - 'BIG_WAP_CR3.jpg' 74 KB
Again, another photo from the WB&H RY book. The caption says the photo was taken looking south in 1970, but actually, the photo was taken looking NORTH.  
 
Compare this picture to the one we took below, noting the direction of super-elevation of the bridge.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 19:56:42 - 'BIG_WAP_BR2.jpg' 178 KB
Here is a photo taken today of this same bridge. Photo was taken looking southeast.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 18:39:03 - 'BLYTH_OVRPASS1.jpg' 119 KB
At Blytheburn, we found the station platform that Josh attempted to take pictures of (posted in this thread) which was too overgrown to snap a picture of (we plan to do so in the fall).  
 
We then came upon the concrete overpass at Blytheburn. Once again, a before and after (top one taken in 1970's, bottom one present day).

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 18:20:14 - 'PV_ST4.jpg' 181 KB
Another before and after view at Pineview Station.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 18:06:13 - 'WBH_PineViewST3.jpg' 123 KB
A view of the box/plaque and the information it contains.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 15:32:09 - 'WBH_ICE1.jpg' 159 KB
Next we came upon the highway overpass abutments near the Ice Lakes. A before and after, and although not taken at the same angle, you can see the abutmants and area were the ice harvest spur was in the background.
 
(View looking North)

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 15:18:26 - 'WBH_BR_TIE1.jpg' 155 KB
On the south approach to the bridge, it looks as though under the timber above, sits a tie from the line.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 06/10/06 at 15:14:21 - 'WBH_BR1.jpg' 198 KB
Rick (XPLORER) and I took a quick jaunt out to the WB&HRR ROW in the Mountain Top area today. We started at Nuangola station intending to try and get to the south portal of the tunnel through Penobscot mountain, but it seemed every road we took was a dead end. After trying to chase a way to the portal by vehicle and meeting a dead end every time, after about a half hour (not really having a lot of time for exploring), we finally gave up and decided to concentrate our little time we had available to the ROW south of the fire station.  
 
We proceeded south along Henry drive to cover as much as we could. Although I didn't take a picture of it, the first thing we saw on our left was the Nuangola powerhouse, identical for the most part to the one at Georgetown.
 
Just a little past the powerhouse, we came upon a bridge over, I believe, Little Wapwallopen Creek. The concrete abutments are original, but we are almost positive the bridge sitting atop of them is not.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By XPLORER on 06/06/06 at 06:12:22 - 'Picturexyz.jpg' 32 KB
[quote author=Grey_Beard link=board=Traction;num=1053481726;start=60#64 date=06/05/06 at 23:02:51]May I make a suggestion?  If you would include something like a ruler or a quarter dollar in your photos, people would have an easier time judging the scale of the object.
 
Grey Beard,
Sorry. I don't model so I don't think about it but a good idea. I'll try to keep this in mind when I do this in the future. Here you go.
RR

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By XPLORER on 06/05/06 at 22:17:58 - 'Picture_002-2.jpg' 25 KB
Now the crappy view

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By XPLORER on 06/05/06 at 22:17:00 - 'Picture_001.jpg' 25 KB
on Jun 5th, 2006, 4:07am, JhnZ33 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Thanks for posting the picture. I gotta get Xplorer to post a pic of the one we found.
 
 
John

 
John,
I got the hint. LOL So here is 2 pics of it. Enjoy Josh. BTW good work.
RR

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By Josh U. on 05/11/06 at 15:58:00 - 'edited_Picturejru2s_camer_096.jpg' 63 KB
Here's a picture I posted once before, but I put it in the wrong forum.  (new user mistake)
 
It's a picture of the bridge in St. Johns, and, as far as I know, the only one with piers (besides the two viaducts), to span a large section of the Nescopeck creek. It's located in the woods, between the Pocono Mountain Speedway, and the old St. Johns power house (now a slaughter house).  
 
 
 


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Re: Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Railway Stations - By Josh U. on 05/10/06 at 15:25:40 - 'wbh_alberts-1-.jpg' 35 KB
Thanks for the link.
 
I was actually just out today trying to pinpoint the location of the old Albert station. It's hard, because from the looks of that picture, there was no concrete platform, only wood.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 04/19/06 at 21:45:50 - 'WBHRR_SugarNotch9.jpg' 165 KB
Another view looking south. We are approaching route 81 where the ROW follows along side the road embankment (for the most part) up to the north side of the tunnel through Penobscot mountain.
 
The ROW is on your right and route 81 can just be seen on your left

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 04/19/06 at 21:39:19 - 'WBHRR_SugarNotch8.jpg' 166 KB
The rock cut looking south

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 04/19/06 at 21:34:47 - 'WBHRR_SugarNotch7.jpg' 170 KB
A view of the ROW heading towards the rock cut of Wilkes-Barre mountain near Sugar Notch

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 04/19/06 at 21:29:40 - 'WBHRR_SugarNotch6.jpg' 166 KB
A view looking North/northeast where the WBHRR ROW crosses route 81 on it way down to the bridge at Solomon's creek. You could just see route 81 through the overgrowth.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 04/19/06 at 21:18:22 - 'WBHRR_SugarNotch5.jpg' 163 KB
A view of the ROW from near Route 81. THe ROW crosses over 81 to the former bridge over Solomon's creek near the Brass Rail restaurant.

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 04/19/06 at 21:10:20 - 'WBHRR_SugarNotch4.jpg' 203 KB
The remains of the concrete dam wall

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 04/19/06 at 21:05:43 - 'WBHRR_SugarNotch3.jpg' 157 KB
A view of the concrete structure on the other side of the ROW

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Re: A remnant of the Wilkes-Barre and Hazleton Rai - By JhnZ33 on 04/19/06 at 21:01:18 - 'WBHRR_SugarNotch2a.jpg' 139 KB
A closer view of the culverts

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Re: Brill Interurban Car Drawings? - By JhnZ33 on 04/18/06 at 19:52:32 - 'SC_INT5.jpg' 144 KB
on Apr 18th, 2006, 5:32pm, NS3360 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Those look like interesting books. I'm gonna need a book similar to that first one when (if) I ever get around to scratch building a ASRy Brill double truck car. Drawings are hard to find...

 
Tell me about it. I searched for quite some time before I found these books. And some can get VERY expensive. I saw the same book  "Street Cars and Interurbans of Yesterday" on ebay recently for $160.00! Granted the cover and jacket were in better shape, but the information contained in the book was the same, and I wasn't really interested in the collecting value. I only wanted for the drawings.
 
If anyone needs any information, drawings or photos from these books, I would be happy to pass it along. Just let me know.
 
 
John
 
 
One more for now


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Re: Brill Interurban Car Drawings? - By JhnZ33 on 04/16/06 at 18:50:21 - 'WBHRR_224_Kislyn_Drawing_sm.jpg' 82 KB
#226 Kislyn car drawing

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Re: Brill Interurban Car Drawings? - By JhnZ33 on 04/16/06 at 18:47:24 - 'WBHRR_bookcover1.jpg' 79 KB
I do have drawings from the book "Wilkes-Barre & Hazleton Railway" which I picked up off of ebay, but it is a drawing of the later shipment of steel cars #226 Kislyn

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Re: Brill Interurban Car Drawings? - By JhnZ33 on 04/16/06 at 18:31:45 - 'SC_INT4.jpg' 83 KB
One more from this book


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