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Posted by: strasburg475 Posted on: May 29th, 2004, 9:00am
Any updates on this neat little yard switcher? What has she been doing in the past few months? Haven't been up to Steamtown in 8 years.
 
What about 2 truck shay #1? I heard they were supposed to do cosmetic repairs on it and put it in an enclosed building. What gives  
Posted by: nhirr40 Posted on: May 30th, 2004, 10:26am
Well, I kinda miss ol' 26, but she'll be back in service soon. Here's the scoop, 26 is under a heavy 5 year repair from what I understand, at the steamtown website, I've seen pictures of 26 dismantled and under repair, and her cab sitting on the ground.
 
As far as the shay, I know nothing.
 
     -Joe
Posted by: Teen_NS_fan Posted on: May 30th, 2004, 6:26pm
 Last time I saw the shay there it had no cab ( I think I read that it didnt have one when they got it ). Its not in view of the general public ( at least easily), its back beside the foundations of the old diesel fuel tanks . Me and my dad had to walk back into the yard to see it. Looks like its in pretty bad condition. Theres bad deterioration around the boiler and the footboards are almost rotted away. Her coupler is vertical to the ground.    When # 26 is restored, will they start having the shop shuttles again?
         Cy
Posted by: 3254Fan Posted on: Jan 8th, 2005, 12:34pm
Hey,
    We are still doing the yard shuttles with 2317 and 3254. 26 should be due in 06 as far as I know.
Posted by: dh7312 Posted on: Jan 22nd, 2005, 3:44am
so how is work going on the 26 ??
Posted by: 2317_fan Posted on: Feb 17th, 2005, 8:39am
I'am pleased to announce good news to all the 26 fans out there. 26 should make a return to the rails for the 2006 season, possibly earlier. I will post more detailed news on 26 as it becomes available to me, all I can say at this time is wait and pray for the best!
Posted by: nhirr40 Posted on: Feb 17th, 2005, 10:31pm
Y'dont think she'll make it out for the steam parade....do ya?  
 
Joe...
Posted by: 2317_fan Posted on: Feb 18th, 2005, 8:16am
Dought it, it will be a blessing if it makes it out for 2006.
Posted by: nhirr40 Posted on: Feb 18th, 2005, 8:45am
Yeah...oh well. 26 should be nice to see again. It's been a while  !!! What kind of whistle did she wear? It sounded like a CP or CN whistle for some reason...but it sounded good! And I like how they swang her bell. That just gives it an added charm...
 
Joe...
Posted by: 2317_fan Posted on: Feb 18th, 2005, 10:54am
The last whistle that was on it I believe was from our GTW 4-8-2 6039, I believe it would have been some kind of 5-chime. The whistle 26 wore when it first operated at Steamtown was removed, about 10 years ago, that sounded similar to a Norfolk and Western hooter. As for the shay locomotive it has not been touched cosmetically since the days of Steamtown U.S.A. This locomotive is probably in the worst cosmetic condition of the entire steam colection, there are no immediate or long term cosmetic restoration plans with this locomotive. The only likely cosmetic restoration in the future is that of Lackawanna 2-6-0 565, even that is a long shot.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Feb 18th, 2005, 4:18pm
The Shay is in awful condition as 2317 fan said. Recently I went to go take a look at it and there are holes in the smokebox and it has water inside since the stack does not have a cover. But the running gear seems in decent shape, but thats about all thats good on it.
Posted by: nhirr40 Posted on: Feb 18th, 2005, 5:21pm
on Feb 18th, 2005, 10:54am, 2317_fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The last whistle that was on it I believe was from our GTW 4-8-2 6039, I believe it would have been some kind of 5-chime. The whistle 26 wore when it first operated at Steamtown was removed, about 10 years ago, that sounded similar to a Norfolk and Western hooter. As for the shay locomotive it has not been touched cosmetically since the days of Steamtown U.S.A. This locomotive is probably in the worst cosmetic condition of the entire steam colection, there are no immediate or long term cosmetic restoration plans with this locomotive. The only likely cosmetic restoration in the future is that of Lackawanna 2-6-0 565, even that is a long shot.

So you were operating with all Canadian whistles, Eh? Steamtown should pull off a Lackawanna whistle and put it on one of their steamers.
Posted by: RDG484 Posted on: Feb 18th, 2005, 7:00pm
on Feb 18th, 2005, 5:21pm, nhirr40 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

So you were operating with all Canadian whistles, Eh? Steamtown should pull off a Lackawanna whistle and put it on one of their steamers.

 
That's already been done, with "Lackawanna 1661" (MILW 261).  It ran one trip, I think, to Binghamton with an authentic Lackawanna whistle, 2-note air horn, and bell.  All three items, I heard, came from a private collection.
Posted by: nhirr40 Posted on: Feb 18th, 2005, 8:18pm
How many chimes are on 261's normal whistle?
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Feb 18th, 2005, 8:56pm
RDG484 is right. On July 22,1995 the 261 was disguised as DL&W 1661 and with a DL&W whistle, bell and headlight loaned by railfan Hank Peterson. The trip was to Binghamton and back. The LACKAWANNA letters on the tender were magnetic from what I understand.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 8:42am
The 26 came out of the Sandblasting booth last week and right now has a light green primer. it's looking good. Right now the shop guys are dying the staybolt holes to check for cracks.  Steamtown is doing an excellent job on the 26, although is has taken a while . I'm looking forward to see them replacing the tires on the 26. The whole tire is engulfed in flames and expands, so then they sledge it off, then they heat up the new tires so they will expand and then they slip them on and when they cool down they contract so it's near impossible for them to fall off during operation. I have heard a few stories of Steam Locomotives braking down a hill and the tires became so hot that they slipped right off, which I am not doubting.  My summary is that the 26 is an excellent little locomotive and I can't wait to see her run in 06'.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 11:52pm
I'm glad NHIRR40 brought up the topic of whistles.  When 26 last ran in 1999, she wore a home-made whistle, if I remember correctly, made by a machinist at Steamtown.  The original "hooter" whistle was installed in the summer of 1990, and brought nothing but angry phone calls from around the city.  With the right engineer pulling on the cord, the whistle made children wet their pants, babies cried, and people went fleeing, but I remember how it cleared my sinuses during hay fever season.
For a while, the train crews tried giving 26 a different whistle every month, after coming out of a boiler wash.  They didn't stick with this plan very long.  In 1997, for a weekend, they installed a PRR K4 whistle, which had a bad fitting, and popped off the steam dome.  I don't know if the whistle was damaged, but it meant ringing the bell constantly to alert people to 26's moving.
Posted by: Timbo611 Posted on: Feb 24th, 2005, 12:13am
sheesh, is all you guys ever talk about whistles?
 
Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing Jerry Jacobson's first steam locomotive back in service in the near future, so good luck Steamtown!
 
While I'm at it, one of Jerry Jacobson's newest steam locomotives is coming along very nicely too, if anyone knows what I'm talking about.
Posted by: NHIWW Posted on: Feb 24th, 2005, 1:10am
Hmmm....
 
I would say the CN #1551 and the LS&I #33  
Posted by: Timbo611 Posted on: Feb 24th, 2005, 1:14am
You're half right!  :
 
Jerry originally owned #26 (as Jackson Iron and Steel #3) and traded it to Steamtown for #1551.
 
As for #33, I think y'all will be quite impressed when she's done.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Feb 24th, 2005, 4:00pm
The one thing that I like about the 26's tender is that it's not riveted. It had been completely rebuilt by Jackson Iron and Steel Company and had a welded tender , not rivets. The BALDWIN LOCOMOTIVE WORKS looks good on flat steel. Also the tender should last alot longer because the welds will never come loose or seperate, (it will seperate if rust completly eats through it). Rivets are a great mean of holding steel together but they can be more prone to leaks. Just thought you would like to know.
Posted by: 2317_fan Posted on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 8:20am
The work on 26 continues. The boiler came out of the sandblast shop about two months ago. Work now is concentrating on building up low areas on the boiler, rivet holes, and staybolt threads. The new front flue sheet is done, and the rear sheet is nearing completion. A new door sheet is in the process of being formed. Once these pieces are complete the work on the firebox sheets will begin. I also have to add that I am not speculating any completion dates on the 26, I am just stateing what I know!
Posted by: 2317_fan Posted on: Mar 31st, 2005, 8:15am
Un fortunately I must add that now the 26's first boiler course now needs to be replaced after pad welding failed. This will add 3 to 6 months to the project.
Posted by: leol39 Posted on: May 12th, 2005, 1:51pm
this is the best i could do inside the shops with the light in there & all, but here she is.
Posted by: 2317_fan Posted on: May 12th, 2005, 2:51pm
As it turns out the first boiler course will not be replaced as I have previously stated. The shop crew made a brace and placed it on the bottom of the rivet holes. This brace was designed to hold the course in place during welding. I will still not give any ideas on a target completion date for the project, however my best guess would be sometime in 2006 of 2007.
Posted by: leol39 Posted on: May 12th, 2005, 3:51pm
the ranger guiding the tour said the setback pushed them to a hopefull target date of spring '06
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 13th, 2005, 7:24am
Thats great. I haven't seen the 26 operational since the grand opening. With all the work being performed on the 26 right now, it will last another 100 years for all to enjoy!!
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jun 7th, 2005, 10:54pm
In the first week of June, the steel for the new firebox arrived in the Steamtown shop.  This is encouraging, but don't get too excited.  The three sheets of steel are not yet prepared for installation, with no staybolt holes or other things.  The new doorsheet still needs to be crafted, so it will be a while.
Posted by: dh7312 Posted on: Jul 21st, 2005, 1:59am
so how are things going with the little 26 ??
Posted by: WM734fan Posted on: Jul 22nd, 2005, 5:40pm
I don't know, but I do want to see this little chugger out soon. Its perfect for the short train rides, and has a great air pump.  I can barely remember it, but I do remember it went "bah, bah, bah, bah."  It was so loud!
 
-Colin
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Aug 3rd, 2005, 11:42am
And when the 26 comes out more special photo shoots can be offered like the one a few years ago when a night photo session was hosted depicting a military train leaving the yard in WW2. The UP Big Boy's headlight and marker lights were lit up. The 26 and 3254 were the engine used with authentic WW2 army vehicles being used on the consist.
Posted by: dh7312 Posted on: Sep 21st, 2005, 12:35am
so hows everything going with the little 26 will we see her next year maybe
Posted by: 90_is_the_best Posted on: Sep 21st, 2005, 4:33pm
That'd be nice...
 
Brian
Posted by: 2317_fan Posted on: Sep 21st, 2005, 5:11pm
Don't expect little 26 to be operational next year. The main priority in the shop right now is the B&M 3713, then this winter they expect to do the tire replacement on the 2317 to get that in top shape for next year. 26 however may be ready for 2007 with the B&M 3713 following a year later.
Posted by: dh7312 Posted on: Sep 22nd, 2005, 6:01am
well thats some good news new tires for the 2317 !!!! ill def be there for when they have her back out on the main ever rode to toby behind her cant wait !!!
Posted by: Bruce_Mowbray Posted on: Sep 22nd, 2005, 9:27pm
on Sep 21st, 2005, 5:11pm, 2317_fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The main priority in the shop right now is the B&M 3713, then this winter they expect to do the tire replacement on the 2317 to get that in top shape for next year. 26 however may be ready for 2007 with the B&M 3713 following a year later.

 
Actually,
The priority in the shop right now IS the #26. The park leaders would really like to get this engine running. Come the end of September, the 3 guys that are currently working on the 3713 might  be going over to  26. This may change.
  As of right now, we don't have any tires for the 2317. I'm not sure but I don't even think there is a tire supplier lined up right now. Also, if we play our cards right, we can get another season out of the 2317 before taking her offline for her big inspection.  
 
Bruce
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2005, 7:37pm
Hey Bruce,
 I think yard service for the 2317 is worse than it being out on the mainline. The 2317 is just moving in the yard all day back and forth and going thru switches and what not. I think that the flanges would wear out faster in the yard  than it being out on the main, that is just my opinion.
Posted by: WMSR_734 Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2005, 7:41pm
It's not an opinion, its a fact! With the amount of times the 17 runs up and down and up and down EVERY day, and with the 1-4 trips to Toby a month or so, the yard will beat it up more I believe.
 
-Colin
Posted by: 90_is_the_best Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2005, 9:16pm
It probably travels farther in the yard all day than one trip to Toby...oh, wait, a HALF a trip (why DO they use a diesel on the return , anyway?). Yard shuttles do about maybe 5 miles each time, and they do it every 15 minutes or so, and that adds up to AT LEAST 100 miles PER DAY !! Toby's what, 30, 40 miles? MAYBE 50? 2317 wasn't built for doing little nooks and crannies, therefore she's not as agile as 26. But 2317 goes fast, and can really open up on the main. Therefore, you guys are likely right. Yard shuttling probably does do more wear and tear on her. However, forget this entire post until after October. I'm going up to Steamtown (finally!) on one of the Moscow excursions, and I want to ride 2317 on a yard shuttle! But 26 WAS built for switching, and won't be affected nearly as much by all that switching. They should make 26 a priority because that's the only swithching steamer they have. Just my 2 cents!
 
Brian
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Sep 23rd, 2005, 10:25pm
Hey 90,
 The short train ride one way is about 1 and a half miles. And the rides are at 10:30, 11:30, 1 and 2:30. The 26 is an awesome little loco and I can't wait till it's back in service. And if you like the 2317, your gonna love the Boston & Maine 3713. You should go see it in the shop. Maybe I'll see you on the Moscow Excursions, I will be volunteering a few times in October.
Posted by: 2317_fan Posted on: Sep 24th, 2005, 1:43am
Well i have to say one thing 26 could have been done 2yrs ago. But the poor people in the shop are over burdened. 3254 as been nothing but problems this summer. Another thing thats killing 2317 is that it has what is called a lateral movement trailing truck, it doesnt piviot thats killing the #3 drive wheel. Also there is a chip out of the flange on the #3 drive wheel now that in my opinion is a little scary! I hope the 3254 behaves itself so 26 can get finished its such a simple little engine. Aslo I heard that when the 2317 comes in for its big inspection they are going to completely gut the entire boiler every thing is coming out! I just hope that Steamtown makes the right decision and keeps the 2317 in service it is the back bone of Steamtown!
Posted by: dh7312 Posted on: Sep 24th, 2005, 6:06pm
hey lets hope all goes well with the 3254 this fall so we can see more progreess on the 3713 and 26. also i hope if they tear down the 2317 that all is well so its not stuck in the shop for many years cause that would really suck cause u are right the 2317 is the backbone of steamtown !  
Posted by: leol39 Posted on: Sep 24th, 2005, 6:33pm
I think they will probably wait to do big time work on #2317 until either #26 or #3713 is done, or both, most likely until #3713 is done, I doubt they will make a situation of only one operable steamer, and the #3254 at that, with her recent mishaps, which I believe will be put behind her. I think once the #3713 starts poundin up and down the main, if the #26 is not yet finished, #3713 will do the excursion work and #3254 will do the little yard stuff, and work will begin on #2317, and I think it is going to be major, maybe a 2 year or so project.
Posted by: dh7312 Posted on: Sep 24th, 2005, 6:44pm
2 yrs sounds about right for that theres not that much really wrong with the 2317 but it will be nice when the 3254 2317 3713 and 26 are all runnig then what will they do lol  
Posted by: leol39 Posted on: Sep 24th, 2005, 7:00pm
IMO #2317 will get some well deserved shop time and rest, she has been a workhorse and if we want her to continue to do so, some rest and preventative stuff would be a godsend. I think after #3713 and #26 are done, and #2317 has her work done, somewhere in between the passenger cars will be rehabbed, and then they will move on to the next project, either IC #790, NKP #759, or NHTR #43. #43 IMO should be next so they have a Vulcan loco operating up there close to where it was built. It would be ideal to have her shuffle about with a coal hopper or two and a caboose. Imagine this: #2317 and #3713 alternating on the big time excursions and an occasional double-header, #3254 doing photo frieghts, yard stuff, and excursions, #26 pulling the yard shuttles again and maybe the caboose thing, and #43 doing the caboose thing and some yard shuttles, it would be great if every locomotive had an immediate alternate for the job they perform, for example if #26 has some issues, #43 can be called in to do her tasks, or if #3254 has some bugs either #3713, #26, or #2317 can be pulled in and so on. I'm almost leaning towards not being pessimistic  
Posted by: dh7312 Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 6:19am
well how are things going with this little cutey will we see her this comming year?
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 7:36am
on Sep 24th, 2005, 7:00pm, leol39 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
IMO #2317 will get some well deserved shop time and rest, she has been a workhorse and if we want her to continue to do so, some rest and preventative stuff would be a godsend. I think after #3713 and #26 are done, and #2317 has her work done, somewhere in between the passenger cars will be rehabbed, and then they will move on to the next project, either IC #790, NKP #759, or NHTR #43. #43 IMO should be next so they have a Vulcan loco operating up there close to where it was built. It would be ideal to have her shuffle about with a coal hopper or two and a caboose. Imagine this: #2317 and #3713 alternating on the big time excursions and an occasional double-header, #3254 doing photo frieghts, yard stuff, and excursions, #26 pulling the yard shuttles again and maybe the caboose thing, and #43 doing the caboose thing and some yard shuttles, it would be great if every locomotive had an immediate alternate for the job they perform, for example if #26 has some issues, #43 can be called in to do her tasks, or if #3254 has some bugs either #3713, #26, or #2317 can be pulled in and so on. I'm almost leaning towards not being pessimistic  

 
 Leo, great idea. I love it. Just imagine all those steamers in the yard. The 43 would be an easy engine to run, one person should be enough to run it. But the 2317 should get a rest, the old girl is starting to get tired. The 3254 is just dying to run more. But those engines were never meant to run back in forth in the yard, thats 26's job. I just can't wait till the 26 and 3713 are done, I would also say that the passenger coaches would be priorite after the 3713 and 26 are done.
Posted by: adam17 Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 9:32am
Do you think the #26 could make up to Moscow and back with like 3 cars?
Posted by: leol39 Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 9:47am
I personally doubt her tender holds enough to make it that far. The DL might also not be too keen on the idea, she may be rough on track up through there.
Posted by: adam17 Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 3:21pm
Oh ok. Just wondering. Oh well.
Posted by: 3254Fan Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 3:44pm
26 could certainly not make it to Moscow. When the engine was ran on the Carbondale line for the Santa trains, it nearly ran out of water several times. Plus it was pullin 4 cars at 10 miles an hour and a fireman told me that the draft was bad for the firebox and when the roundhouse crews shut the engine down, they found that 75% of the tubes were clogged with coal. Definitely not a good thing. Running to Moscow what be 10 times worse.
Posted by: The_Former_Fireman Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 5:12pm
Hello All
 
Long time listener, first time caller as they’d say.  I fired for several years at Steamtown (into 2001) after spending several years before that as a park ranger.  What 3254fan said is dead on.  When we ran the 26 to Carbondale with 4 cars (and a caboose) we found that while the engine had the “power” aka tractive effort to do the work, it lacked sufficient steaming capacity.  While the 26 is a husky little engine, it’s not superheated and has a relatively narrow firebox providing a limited heating surface.  In short, we could keep with fire hot as h… but as we ran we would be taking the steam out the boiler faster than the water could be heated to replace it.  We also hard a hard time keeping water going into the boiler.  When you put water into a boiler, you take the pressure down some.  Our rule was no more than a 5 psi drop per shot of water, and even that was a lot, we tried to stick to around 2 or 3 pounds for the sake of the equipment.  Back to the point, with the boiler sucking water (made worse by trying to run steam heat) we would up knocking the pressure down farther than we wanted to keep water at safe levels.  Several times we had to stop, build up pressure and build up the water.  The we had to stop to fill up the tender tank itself halfway to Carbondale.
 
Another “devil in the details” as 3254fan mentioned was the drafting problems.  With the relatively small drive wheels, no superheating, no arch brick and no combustion chamber, the engine had quite a draft.  We were literally piling coal into the rear of the firebox, then having the draft pull it forward against the tubes as we went along.  Attempts to pull the coal back off the tube sheet with a long fire rake were only semi-successful, since the fire was white hot and we couldn’t exactly see what we were doing anyway.  I remember I got quite a “sunburn” having the fire doors open while raking back the coals that cold December day.  Believe it or not we were still able to depart Carbondale headed south and arrive at each town with Santa on time!
 
This (1998?) was first time, and only time we tried running the 26 to Carbondale with a heavy train by itself.  The year before the 26 and train were pulled North to Carbondale by a diesel.  A few years previous to that the 26 had gone up the Carbondale line for a special event which included the opening of the reproductions train stations in Olyphant and Carbondale, but this was with 2 lighter DL&W MU electric trailer cars, not 4 heavy steam cars and a caboose.  The time I was fireing was the first real large-scale use of the 26 solo on the Carbondale line and was a weekend of trial by fire, as it were.  There were, if I remember correctly, actually 3 days of trips with the engine laying over in South Scranton each night that year.
 
The Tuesday after the Carbondale runs the 26 went down for a boiler wash and well over half the tubes were blocked with coal, which further severely hinders steaming capability.  The following year the consist was towed to Carbondale with a diesel  and then ran under its own power through the towns back to Scranton stopping along the way with Santa, much, much easier.
 
As an aside, speaking of the pulling power the 26 did have.  We used to, quite often shuffle the excursion consist from one track to another.  After each weekend the consist (up to 10 cars during busier times) would be cut on the main, so the toilet truck could come and dump the restrooms Monday morning.  After this was done we would come over with the 26 and hustle the cars up past the mall and back over to what’s known as the depot runaround track.  That was some of the loudest “stalk talk” I’ve ever heard, the 26 pulling almost a dozen passenger cars half a mile up grade.  Nothing we could keep up for a long distance, but boy those few minutes each Monday were a blast.
 
As far as the 26 going to Moscow, I believe you could take a passenger car or two or a freight car up the hill and back, you’d be hurting for water though, I’m not sure you’d make it as far as Moscow before you ran out.  If you had a square tender, maybe…
 
The 26 did go up the Pocono line as far as Myrtle Street for a commercial in 1999 if I’m not mistaken, with 2 cars, and they had the same hard time keeping water in the boiler that I described above.
 
Hope you enjoyed my ramblings, or at least found them useful.  
 
Dave Crosby
 
PS Below is a shot I took of the 26 on the Carbondale job in 1998
Posted by: The_Former_Fireman Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 5:14pm
Another Shot of the 26, laying over in South Scranton between Carbondale trips, when I babysat it all night, in 1999.
 
Dave Crosby
Posted by: adam17 Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 5:58pm
You fired? Wow! That's kool!. Anyway, do they still do the Santa Runs down there? 3254 could handle the job, couldn't she?
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 10:53pm
Great googly-moogly!  The Former Fireman makes an appearance on Railfan.Net!  The world must be collapsing on itself, since I thought you would never be drawn in by railfanny chat!  Good photos, though.
Posted by: adam17 Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2005, 11:33pm
LOL!
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Nov 3rd, 2005, 7:24am
Hey guys,
 The 26 was never meant for the mainline because if it went faster then 30 or so the equalizer bar might break, an equalizer bar is used when there is no lead truck so al the weight up front is leaning on that bar. I have the movie "Stories from the Mines" and it shows the 26 with 2 passenger cars blasting out of the Nay Aug tunnel, and I mean blasting!! Nice pictures Dave. I especially like the shot of the 26 simmering out in the yard at night.
Posted by: adam17 Posted on: Nov 3rd, 2005, 9:11am
Hope she's done soon!
Posted by: BAFjd Posted on: Nov 3rd, 2005, 2:48pm
How long is the trip from Scranton to Carbondale and what type of grades are you encountering?  It seems strange that at low speeds that engine couldn't keep up steam.  Sounds like the engineer must have been running with the reverser in the hole and the throttle on the roof to be drafting that hard with 4 coaches to pull all the coal to the flue sheet.
Posted by: The_Former_Fireman Posted on: Nov 3rd, 2005, 3:10pm
Great Googly Moogly...  I like that one.  I figured since I know enough of the people who frequent here I might as well pop in and ramble a while like everyone's weird uncle who tells stories for hours on end.   Feel free to ask me whatever you like about my time on the steam engines, keep in mind that I do have a microchip implanted at the base of my brain that knocks me out if I get involved in "political" discussions about steamtown.
 
Back to the 26.  The grade to Carbondale isn't all that bad, certainly not as bad as the Lacakwanna line, but I suppose it was just enough to overtax the 26.  And yes, there were engineers who would run with the reverser pegged all the way back (the 17 mile uphill trip to Carbondale was run in reverse to boot), but that's another issue.
 
759 fan is correct, the 26, by all laws of god and man was never designed or intended to go more than 20 mph, let alone 30, there are times however that this did happen, making for quite a rough ride.  The specifics of how those 30+ mph rides took place are somewhat of a gaurded secret however.
 
Dave Crosby
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Nov 4th, 2005, 7:32pm
I just hope that the 26 will be done next year and run a few Carbondale Excursions. But I rather see a road engine go there. But I guess Steamtown has no say in that. Steam is Steam
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Dec 3rd, 2005, 10:17pm
Hey Guys,
 I was at Steamtown today and I got a shot of the 26's cab inside the car shop. The cab of the 26 has been sitting outside on a flatcar for a few years and it's about time it has been brought inside.  My guess they are going to replace the wood on the inside of the cab and give the cab a new coat of paint.
Posted by: dh7312 Posted on: Jan 22nd, 2006, 8:51pm
Any news on the little one
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Mar 26th, 2006, 9:47pm
OHS,
 I deleted your topic because info can be posted about the 26's restoration here.
Posted by: O_H_S Posted on: Apr 15th, 2006, 11:44am
on Mar 26th, 2006, 9:47pm, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
OHS,
 I deleted your topic because info can be posted about the 26's restoration here.

I understand perfectly clear.
Posted by: steamfan92 Posted on: May 10th, 2006, 12:27am
Well #26 should be operational by October 2006. That is what I heard May 9.
Posted by: NHI_40 Posted on: May 19th, 2006, 12:22pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
 
October 2006? You gotta be kidding me!!! Who do they think they are? They can barely keep up with the other two! I saw that thing a month or so ago, and it didn't look even close to running. Its an empty boiler with its running gear removed. Pretty sad lookin'.
 
October 2006? Naaaah.
Try October 2007, or 2008, or 2009....
Posted by: 90Fan Posted on: May 19th, 2006, 3:56pm
I dunno, Joe, I think you're being a little generous....
Posted by: WMSR_734 Posted on: May 19th, 2006, 4:25pm
I think Joe has it about right.
 
BTW, I think he got his locomotives mixed up...maybe 2317 could be done by Oct, not 26 though.
Posted by: 3254Fan Posted on: May 19th, 2006, 5:27pm
As a matter of clarification, if 2317 did not need repairs the 26 most likely would have been completed by the end of the year. However, with steam, expect the unexpected. All shop crew will be soon working on 2317, meaning 26 will see little work until the 17 is out. However they have made progress on it over the winter, that I can assure you.
Posted by: Reading 2124 Posted on: May 23rd, 2006, 3:44pm
Isnt 2317 was getting wheel work  
Posted by: NHI40 Posted on: May 27th, 2006, 3:07pm
on May 19th, 2006, 5:27pm, 3254Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
As a matter of clarification, if 2317 did not need repairs the 26 most likely would have been completed by the end of the year. However, with steam, expect the unexpected. All shop crew will be soon working on 2317, meaning 26 will see little work until the 17 is out. However they have made progress on it over the winter, that I can assure you.

I'm glad to hear that! Maybe in a few years, Steamtown will be running 3 steam engines again!  
Posted by: 90Fan Posted on: May 27th, 2006, 7:32pm
That would be nice to see. We could just pretend these "disaster" years never happened .
Posted by: GWR90 Posted on: May 27th, 2006, 10:22pm
I hate to be so negative but with the current trend at Steamtown It wouldn't surprise me if Steamtown is nothing more than a static exhibit within the next 5 years.
Posted by: Alek77 Posted on: Aug 4th, 2006, 4:32pm
on Feb 18th, 2005, 10:54am, 2317_fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The last whistle that was on it I believe was from our GTW 4-8-2 6039, I believe it would have been some kind of 5-chime. The whistle 26 wore when it first operated at Steamtown was removed, about 10 years ago, that sounded similar to a Norfolk and Western hooter. .
Why did they take #6039s whistle? I was hoping that could be operational again
Posted by: Alek77 Posted on: Aug 7th, 2006, 8:30pm
26 is WIERD!!!!!! . It has no hedlight in the middle, the wheels are very low, it has a slopeback tender, it says "The Baldwin Locomotive works" and it has a tall dome.
Posted by: RN_addict Posted on: Aug 12th, 2006, 6:58am
At the moment 26 does look weird, but I think it looks cool when its not in 100 pieces.  
Posted by: Alek77 Posted on: Aug 12th, 2006, 10:31am
I ment it looks wierd even put together.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Oct 25th, 2006, 12:13am
Update:  Here it is, October, 2006 and No. 26 is still in pieces.  Just because she isn't running, doesn't mean work isn't going on.  The wheel sets have been turned on the lathe, and are sitting around waiting for the new tires to be placed on.  The cylinders are removed, and the saddle was just trammed out by a portable boring machine.  Hundreds of stay bolts were added to the firebox since the last posting in August.  A lot of parts are waiting for installation, too.
 
Work has also taken place on No. 2317, but mostly on the steam dome and tender trucks.  Brand new steel was purchased for equalizers since the others were warped or thin.  If the work keeps up, and 3254 stays running, we may actually see three steamers in 2007.  No promises, though.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Oct 29th, 2006, 6:16pm
Hey 565,
 Good to hear that 26 is coming along. The only memorie I have of the 26 under steam is when I went on a field trip to Steamtown in Kindergarten, when the core complex was under construction. I'm really looking forward to seeing 26 in the yards, giving the yard engines a break from toiling in the yard.
Posted by: Alcophile Posted on: Oct 31st, 2006, 4:14pm
It's going to be great when #26 is up again. I rode behind #3254 in the yard, she really wasn't enjoying it. She really needs the main line. But #2317 needs a rest too, though #3254 could use one also. When I was there she had to evrything. Even #514 was down.
Posted by: dh7312 Posted on: Dec 17th, 2006, 10:51pm
any updates on the 26??
Posted by: JMFusco Posted on: Dec 18th, 2006, 12:17am
on Aug 12th, 2006, 6:58am, RN_addict wrote:       (Click here for original message)
At the moment 26 does look weird, but I think it looks cool when its not in 100 pieces.  

Wow, she's not even half the engine she used to be!
Posted by: mikes47jeep Posted on: Dec 20th, 2006, 10:00pm
every time i see the little #26 shes looking more and more like a locomotive, even more staybolts are in place
Posted by: JMFusco Posted on: Jan 2nd, 2007, 12:28am
Good to hear she's getting some progress,
 
I really want to see her hit the rails again. I miss her quite a bit!
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Feb 13th, 2007, 1:07am
Feb, 2007 update.  Right at the end of January, all six new tires were sweated on the wheel sets.  Some of the wheels are painted black making the unpainted tires that much more distinctive.  Originally, 26 had blind drivers on the center set, but all are flanged now.
A brand new cylinder sleeve was inserted on the engineer's side right before New Year's, and the machine trammed it out to the right size.  One of the pistons is on a lathe and new piston rings are being cut to go on the pistons.  
Boiler-wise, the crews are getting ready to install the radial stay bolts.  These are long rods, threaded  and flared on each end, to hold the crown sheet at the right distance from the top of the firebox.  The firebox is not yet fully welded or riveted, but that might come after the radials are situated.  I hope this satisfies you for a while.
Posted by: LegendZ26 Posted on: Feb 14th, 2007, 9:15pm
26 in October 2006 when I was at Steamtown. And yes they mentioned the sleeve work that she needed on her engineers side when I was there.  happy to hear that the new sleeve was installed.  Even though the work being done is slow, I agree with Steamtowns view that with the work being done the right way, these Steamers will be in operation years to come. They are making up for all the patch work the railroads did in the steamers final years in operation. So yes it seams like they are slow and not accomplishing much, but really they are doing an incredible job and we should all be amazed at what their goal is and how they are going about it. So while steam continues to dwindle, especially in the northeast, I feel that one day I can take my kids to Steamtown and they will get to see a Steamer operate.
Posted by: LegendZ26 Posted on: Feb 14th, 2007, 9:18pm
26s Boiler in October 06.  She realy is a nice lookin Steam Locomotive when she is all put together.  One of the best examples of an 0-6-0 I think u can find.  Glad Steamtown has this Gem!!!
Posted by: anthonyd_SRR Posted on: Feb 15th, 2007, 5:08pm
Great pics. when she is restored will she be pulling trains or smething else?
 
Anthony
Posted by: J. M. Fusco Posted on: Feb 15th, 2007, 5:20pm
on Feb 15th, 2007, 5:08pm, anthonyd_SRR wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great pics. when she is restored will she be pulling trains or smething else?
 
Anthony

No Anthony,
 
When she is restored, she will be under steam but will NOT be allowed to pull a train! She will be restricted to the engine house where she will back up 5 feet then pull forward 5 feet and visators will ride her cab. If it gets too crowded, in the tender they go!  
 
HAHA, nah... If they're restoring the locomotive to operating condition, what do you think they will do with it? Run it, of corse...  
 
I'm sure #26 will pull the yard shuttles once again; that is, when she is put back together.
 
Joe...  
Posted by: 90Fan Posted on: Feb 15th, 2007, 8:34pm
on Feb 15th, 2007, 5:20pm, J. M. Fusco wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
I'm sure #26 will pull the yard shuttles once again; that is, when she is put back together.
 
Joe...  

 
Wow! Yard shuttles? Who wouldn've ever thought?
 

 
Great to see 26's progressing. You're right Kenny, she is one fine 0-6-0! She is one of the best switchers I know. She's always great to see around the yard!
Posted by: LegendZ26 Posted on: Feb 16th, 2007, 8:29am
If u really think about it, 26 is one of the Gems of their collection. People want a local Locomotive to run at Steamtown, but 26 is a very local Steamer. How lucky could a place called Steamtown be to have a Baldwin Locomotive Works Switcher as its very own switcher.  Its a local Steamer from Eddystone PA. and its proabably the best example of a switch engine that they could get. Very basic design and not to big nor small for what they need it for. And she looks so good. When I think of a switch engine 26 always comes to mind. I cant wait for 26 to do its job again.  And I will be there when she does!!! And I hope they do take their time getting her done.  Then when she comes out she will have years of good service to give.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Apr 15th, 2007, 10:36pm
April 2007 update.  Work keeps on keepin' on.  No big leaps forward, but a cluster of about 6 new rivets were installed on the boiler, fireman's side last week.  Some of the staybolts were cut on the outside of the firebox to about 1/4 inch.  They will all eventually be cut and hammered down to a bead, so they will expand and contract with the rest of the boiler parts and not leak. I also noticed a little extra work was done on the cab interior on shop track 3 in the restoration end.  
 
All of the coaches are getting new steps.  It wasn't until they were taken off, that the repairmen realized how bad they were.  For 2007 you wil now have a more secure footing in gettin on and off the cars.
Posted by: anthonyd_SRR Posted on: Apr 16th, 2007, 4:32pm
Cool, good news about the coaches
 
Anthony
Posted by: steamfan92 Posted on: Apr 20th, 2007, 7:08pm
I have good news #26's tender was moved to the shops today around 2:45 pm.
I hope to have photos asap.
 
 
Dan
Posted by: 90Fan Posted on: Apr 21st, 2007, 2:00pm
on Apr 20th, 2007, 7:08pm, steamfan92 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I have good news #26's tender was moved to the shops today around 2:45 pm.
I hope to have photos asap.
 
 
Dan

 
Looking forward to it!
Posted by: anthonyd_SRR Posted on: Apr 22nd, 2007, 7:34pm
Great news!!!
 
Anthony
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jun 11th, 2007, 5:10pm
June 2007 update... Not much news on the tender, although she is on track 2 in the shop, still under cover.  This week, the penetration welding of the firebox will begin.  It seems like an easy enough job if you have the skills.  The three men working on 26 do have this certification, so they are up to it.  More of the staybolts are cut and ground to get them ready for beading, which I described in an earlier post.  Once the firebox sheets are welded together, the radial stays will join the crownsheet and wrapper sheet together.  
 
A recently repaired machine is also grinding down the valves so they will seat themselves perfectly in their steam chests.  The steam chest covers are also repaired by this grinder.  Pistons are finishing up their repairs on the lathe, and the rings for the pistons are cut.  No. 26 is really coming along.  She may even run better than new, based on the comments I've heard.  This is good, because I remember her dark days in the late 90's when she ran very rough.
Posted by: anthonyd_SRR Posted on: Jun 14th, 2007, 1:43pm
How do 26 looks? In a bunch of piece of is she coming together?
 
Anthony
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jun 23rd, 2007, 9:58pm
To the untrained eye, no. 26 today will look a lot like legend z26's photos from a few months back.  She is still in kit form, with more work needed.  I noticed the paint on her cylinder saddle has been taken off, as part of preparing this part for priming... or to check on a possible crack not noticed before.  One of the frustrating parts of a restoration is that you can't easily put parts back on until they are ALL ready to go on.  When it comes to this point, the work seems to go rather quickly. Keep in mind you don't want to put bad or broken parts on and have them break when you steam her up.  It all has to be in good shape.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Dec 26th, 2007, 11:43pm
December 2007 update.  After several months of paying attention to no. 2317, work has begun again on our favorite 0-6-0.  Right before Christmas, repairs to straighten the frame began, by welding rings to the rails to secure a chain device called a come-along.  Wires running from the cylinder centers to the rear of the frame are helping to re-allign the cast metal, which is no easy task.
 
26's firebox is also getting back in the swing of things with repairs to her firebox.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Mar 11th, 2008, 11:58pm
March 2008 update:
More on the frame straightening.  The wires mentioned above acted as more of a guide to see how straight the frame pieces were going.  Heavy jacks on the rear end hoisted that part while they adjusted other parts.  New metal wedges, blocks and binders are now ready to go in the axle boxes of the frame, when the frame is ready.  The axles will fit inside horseshoe-shaped bearing boxes, on top of the binders.
 
If you didn't know, no. 26 has slide valves, not piston valves.  Slide valves have a rectangular block, sitting inside a tennis racket-like frame, atop the seat which lets the steam down to the cylinder.  The valves were ground to be flat last summer on a machine.  The seat is now being ground with a heavy grit sander, so it can also be flat.  Over the years, this seat became bowed up due possibly to the warped frame.  With a straight frame and squared valves, I'm told her ride will be incredibly smooth.  We can only hope.
 
Work on the boiler continues, but no new rivets as of yet.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Apr 16th, 2008, 11:31pm
April 2008 update.  I know I've been monopolizing this thread lately, so please chime in with your comments.
 
Anyway, last week, about 20 or so hot rivets were added to the engineer's side of the firebox mud ring.  As far as I can see, her new combustion chamber inside the firebox is totally welded now, so she is still coming along.  
 
More adjustments on the slide valve area being done.  The rest of the frame will get a boost when the drive boxes, which hold the axles in the frame are finished in their machining.  Then, we'll see the wheelsets added, the springs, and rods, and... oh I'm getting ahead of myself.  That's it for now.
Posted by: Anthony_RMLI Posted on: Jun 30th, 2008, 7:13pm
She's getting there. I hope to see her progress Next week.
 
 
Anthony
Posted by: Ollie Posted on: Aug 19th, 2008, 8:28pm
Any work been done sense the last post?
Posted by: Anthony_RMLI Posted on: Aug 19th, 2008, 9:29pm
It looks like it will be a while. I hope she is out soon. When I was there all the attention was on 3713. I would love to see 4 live steamers at steamtown...... Maybe someday
 
I do hope she is done before 3454 and 2317 need there 5 year and theres goes faster
 
Anthony
Posted by: Anthony_RMLI Posted on: Aug 27th, 2008, 9:49pm
Looks like good news for 26. Allot can happen in a month.  
 
http://rypn.sunserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25894  
 
if you noticed the black paint on the right, you can thank me for some of that    
 
Anthony
Posted by: violin1238 Posted on: Aug 28th, 2008, 4:50pm
Keep up the good work. It is great that #26 is headed uphill and will be ready. Once #26 is ready Steamtown will have a locomtive perfectly suited to the yards and won't have worry about taking 3254 out more than out on the mainline should any issues occur with 2317 in the meantime.  Please keep up your good work.
Posted by: Anthony_RMLI Posted on: Aug 28th, 2008, 6:03pm
So Steamtown will have (coming soon)
 
-26 for the yard shuttle  
-3254 for the mainline trips
 So 2 working engines for 2 jobs. Once 26 is out it may be a good idea to service 2317 so she can pull mainline trains. I can also see her being used as a back up for 26.
 
What do you guys think? I could see both being good. They will really be in good shape if 3713 is finished or 2317 can be a back up for 3254 (and 26 of course)
 
Anthony
Posted by: afboone Posted on: Aug 28th, 2008, 7:36pm
Anthony,  2317 is due her 5 year inspection.  They already have some of the boiler tubes capped so she is restricted to the yard.  They have the tools but lack of man power that is what slows them down.  They sometimes have to take guys off projects and use them on the excusions or for the daily runs.  If they can get some volunteers to help they can make some progress.  They don't have a full time carpenter anymore so they have to wait sometimes for a volunteer to come in.  So if you can get the word out they are looking for help all the time.  I'm in the military and we are getting a bunch of guys to go up and help on a weekend.  More to follow...........
 
Steve B.
Posted by: violin1238 Posted on: Sep 3rd, 2008, 12:39pm
Yeah Anthony, With 2317 and her status Yes it would be great if she could be a backup. However with her limits and track record of being repaired than going hickup, Having #26 back in steam is a need for steamtown right now. I'm just praying that when they are breaking in the 0-6-0 for the next 15 years of service that she gets the fine tuning that is nesscassary for staying in steam for many years of service. Breaking in a steam locomotive correctly is crucial for the long-term.  
 
A very good example of this is currently going on at the Cumbres and Toltec where #489 has just returned to steam. The Shop crews there have only ran her as far Cumbres Pass.  Some minor repairs and adjustments are taking place accordingly.
 
So once #26 is back in steam giving once her test are completed giving #2317 a rest would be a good thing. I'm sure others have different opinions.
Posted by: afboone Posted on: Sep 3rd, 2008, 1:28pm
The shop did alot of what we call in the military "preventive maintenance" stuff.  If it was close to being bad the changed it.  The frame took a long time due to it being bent.  Hopefully we can give them a big hand the end of the month and start getting her back together.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Sep 26th, 2008, 11:48pm
September, 2008 update.  Steam restoration can be so dull sometimes that it looks like nothing is happening.  This is because each rivet looks like each other one, but they all need the same attention.  The same goes for the other multiplied parts.  And yet, every once in a while, you get to see a leap forward.  Two brass (or are they bronze?) check valves have been added to the boiler.  These are inlets or taps that permit the water to enter the boiler, without allowing the boiling water to get back out, so they are a vital part of the operation.  This is progress.
 
Other developments are the new floor of the tender's water tank, and bolstering up its interior.  That floor is being welded in place now. The tank holds 4750 gallons, which isn't much.  A leak can run away from you if it is allowed to.  This is a bigger project than they planned it to be a few years back.  The trucks of the tender are now off the frame, and I guess the springs are being checked for cracks and any needed repairs.  Looks like the frame is undergoing its own inspection, too. As mentioned in the past, many individual parts are complete, and waiting for AFBoone and others to reassemble her.
Posted by: afboone Posted on: Sep 27th, 2008, 12:32pm
565Fan,  Looks like I'm going to get my guys up there around 28-29 OCT.  We are coming up in two crews.  We are working out our teaching schedule to give us max amount of troops up there.  We'll see what we can get done for the guys in the shop.  
Posted by: Ollie Posted on: Oct 26th, 2008, 4:48pm
Updates  
Posted by: afboone Posted on: Oct 28th, 2008, 3:00pm
Ollie,
  We tried to get there today but due to the snow storm, 4 inches  , in Scranton we couldn't get there.  So we are trying again next week.
Posted by: Anthony_RMLI Posted on: Oct 28th, 2008, 4:25pm
WOW it is hard to picture that much snow so early.
 
Anthony
Posted by: mikes47jeep Posted on: Oct 28th, 2008, 4:52pm
theirs 8 inches of snow at my house and its still falling (20 mi north of scranton)
 
Mike
Posted by: Ollie Posted on: Nov 26th, 2008, 6:15pm
How about now
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Nov 26th, 2008, 9:05pm
Don't know if any of you saw it last night,but I think 26 was on Extreme trains on the History Channel.No Idea when it was shot,but they put a rivet in the boiler.565fan,is the problem with not enough people in the shop because the park service won't hire more people,or they can't find any?
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Nov 27th, 2008, 7:49pm
Hi, LV Lou:  The easy part would be finding skilled people to do the work.  The biggest motivator is a paycheck, and the pay is good. People who want to work in Scranton will move there.  
 
The difficult part is fitting the hiring process around the various regulations, initiatives, political ideologies (sometimes) and the other pressing concerns of a National Park.  The park's operating budget hasn't changed much since 1994. The cost of heating and cooling the buildings, maintaining road and track, salary, coal, vehicles and other things have gone up considerably.  This is just stretching the dollar that much thinner.  I can't go into much more detail, because I am not certain of all that goes into hiring a person to perform a task.  Butthe loco shop is only one area in a large business that needs attention.  
 
Since I haven't seen the Extreme Trains, I can't comment on what was said by whom, but the filming and riveting took place on April 10, 2008.  That mudring riveting wasn't just for show.  All of the mudring is now secure with the firebox sheets.  The main activity the last month has been installing the radial stays in the crown sheet area.  Along with that, the brand new crosshead guides are being adjusted to accept the crossheads, which join the piston rod with the main drive rods.
Posted by: Penn Rail Videos Posted on: Nov 27th, 2008, 8:38pm
What I always thought would be a good idea for the NPS, is to enlist volunteers who wanna help out running and working on the operating trains, and using the skills of those (paid) who can work in the shop. People who want to be there and play choo choo, will be happy, and with more people free to work in the shop, work would possibly progress at perhaps a steadier rate.  
 
But that's just my idea. Glad to hear the return of #26 is imminant.
- Adam
Posted by: port_richmond Posted on: Nov 27th, 2008, 9:00pm
Adam,
   Many railroads do that, however many of the folks that are paid and
work(paid staff) also want to have some fun on the operating end as
well.
   See you soon at N-trak for a holiday visit............and hope you did
not eat to much today.............
 
Eric
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Nov 27th, 2008, 9:29pm
N-Trak? Where's that happening at?
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jan 26th, 2009, 2:24pm
January, 2009 update:
  With a few exceptions, all of the firebox staybolts needed for Baldwin no. 26 are in place, joining the combustion chamber with the wrapper sheet.  The exceptions are where three rows of two bolts, one coming from the outside, another from the inside, will be joined with turnbuckles.  This is similar to the arrangement of bolts in Steamtown's no. 8 sectioned locomotive.  Last week the ends of the bolts sticking out of the steel sheets were being cut down to 1/4" or so, whereby they can be pounded flat with an air hammer.  
 
This is big news, yet still a long way to go.
Posted by: violin1238 Posted on: Feb 20th, 2009, 4:44pm
I understand that much work is still required in the rebuilding of the locomotive. Are we looking for a return in 2009 or 2010 at this point? no rush.
Posted by: J. M. Fusco Posted on: Mar 8th, 2009, 4:22am
on Feb 20th, 2009, 4:44pm, violin1238 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I understand that much work is still required in the rebuilding of the locomotive. Are we looking for a return in 2009 or 2010 at this point? no rush.

 
I can't speak for the park service itself or those who work on the #26 but from past experience... With Steamtown and steam locomotives in general...
 
If you expect 26 out this year or next, you may very well be dissapointed. Just sit back and wait until she's ready, target dates for her completion really don't mean much. I'm not saying she won't be done this year or the next... I'm saying I don't think she will be...
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Sep 21st, 2009, 4:04pm
September 2009 update.
Firebox work continues.  Since August, the workers have been peening over the staybolts on the exterior of the firebox.  This work is coming along quickly.  Interior will take time, due to them working in a confined space. There are strict regulations on how much time they can spend in the small firebox, and as you can imagine, it will get pretty hot in there.  
 
I make no predictions on when she will run, but the assembly of the parts will seem very quick.  Most of the individual part work is done, and has been waiting to be put back in or on the locomotive.  The tender trucks are totally disassembled, with each arch-bar getting sandblasted, checked, repaired and painted.  Same for the springs.  She will be a thing of beauty when she is back on the rails.
 
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Apr 15th, 2010, 10:56pm
These two photos were taken last Summer, when this beam was taken off the tender frame of Baldwin no. 26. It sits on the front end of the tender, the part that faces the rear of the cab.  The footplate for the fireman rests on top of it.  

While it is generally a solid piece of wood, there are splits that run nearly the length of it.  It would only hold up for a short time if it was returned to the frame.  Another beam was ordered.

Here it is on the day it was delivered, June 24.  This new beam has been hewn, painted black, and the chains have been added to it. The chains act as a reinforcement of the drawbar when it is added to the engine.  Yesterday the crews were working on the bumper that will be placed on the beam too.  
There are all types of "little" jobs like this going on with no. 26.  Each part will lead to her ultimate return to steam.
I hope to post pics of the progress soon.  I have to take them first!
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Apr 29th, 2010, 8:37pm
Baldwin Locomotive Works #26 Progress:
-Tender cistern is complete except exterior paint job and mount on frame.  This is a big step forward. The truck unit tower castings will be done by May 14th..until then we are held up waiting on them. Once we get those we can re-assemble the truck units, attach the frame to the trucks, attach the cistern to the frame, and put it in the paint booth for exterior painting.
-The firebox crown stay bolt job is complete. That was the toughest part of the stay bolt job. Currently, we are finishing up the flexi-stays inside the firebox. We will be applying a pexior coating to the barrel of the boiler in a few weeks.  
-This summer we anticipate installing the front tube sheet, the dry pipe, and all the 2” tubes. We also anticipate completing work on the crosshead guides and crossheads, shoes and wedges, journal boxes, and brasses.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jun 7th, 2010, 11:57am
My latest photo shows the tender cistern atop the frame and wood planks.  

A few mechanics are inspecting the work done.  This was taken June 6.
Posted by: restore_RV15 Posted on: Jun 17th, 2010, 11:57am
Idk how much weight this hold, some of you guys that work there could tell me better, but the shop tour guide and one of the shop workers told me she'll be up and running soon.  Ther guide said September (tad on the optimistic side) and the shop worker said March.  Either way, she's almost there!
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Sep 15th, 2010, 9:41pm
"Soon" is a good term, since it is both hopeful and vague, so I think it fits here.
I make no promise or predictions on when a locomotive will work, unless I am told to expect it on day x.  
As far as 2011, there are many appropriate target dates that she COULD make a debut, such as National Parks week in April, Memorial Day, July 4th, Railfest, or even Oct. 30, which is the 25th anniversary of the signing of the bill creating Steamtown as a National Historic Site in 1986.  Even if her first fire is in December, I will be happy to see her alive and steaming, so the park will have another year of 2 live steaming locomotives.[
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Sep 16th, 2010, 8:57pm

Back in mid August, the pistons were inserted in the cylinder sleeves.  Here is the engineer's side of the steam chest.

This is the piston rod, coming out the back of the steam chest, situated between the crosshead guides.

On the fireman's side, the cylinder head is on, and the socket wrench is there to torque all the nuts down tight.
 

In other work, this is the new material to be machined down to make new bearings for the drive boxes, which have also been machined recently (see below)...
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Oct 27th, 2010, 8:58pm
Late breaking news on 26! After countless hours of work, 26's boiler is complete, including flues! It has been painted with rust converter, and is ready to be mounted back on the chassis! Her tender is also complete, minus the trucks. Watch for the work to progress quickly guys!
Posted by: restore_RV15 Posted on: Oct 27th, 2010, 11:08pm
Awesome! Can't wait to see her running again!
Posted by: mike_tillger Posted on: Oct 29th, 2010, 9:37am
Unfortunately Max's information is a bit premature. While the boiler has been painted inside and out with special boiler paint, the front tube sheet and boiler tubes are still awaiting installation. The 26 project is progressing nicely, please be patient.
 
Mike Tillger
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Oct 29th, 2010, 11:02am
on Oct 29th, 2010, 9:37am, mike_tillger wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Unfortunately Max's information is a bit premature. While the boiler has been painted inside and out with special boiler paint, the front tube sheet and boiler tubes are still awaiting installation. The 26 project is progressing nicely, please be patient.
 
Mike Tillger

 
Whoops! My mistake, Mike. I guess my information was faulty....in any event, she is progressing nicely. Mike is right, patience-a railfanner's virtue-is key with 26.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Oct 29th, 2010, 10:25pm
She certainly looks Purrr-ty in her new charcoal colored paint, after 5 years in the pea-soup green.  I will have to take photos and post them soon.
A long hidden piece of the boiler, the smokebox, is now the same color as the rest of the boiler, sitting in the back shop area by the drive rods and the cab.  
All 6 of the drive boxes that will rest atop the axles are now reprofiled. The bronze bearings are being cut down on the Bullard cutmaster machine to make them fit the drive boxes.  This is really an interesting time to be at Steamtown.  There are so many parts nearly ready for assembly that you can piece them together in your mind like a puzzle.  When an engine is assembled, it's tougher to imagine how so many parts fit together.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2010, 9:42pm
These photos were taken on Halloween 2010.  Sunday is a quiet day in the shop, so that is why no workers are obvious in the shots.  Here is 26's newly painted boiler.  All staybolts and rivets are in.

And the front end.  There are spacer bars inside to stabilize the boiler when it comes time to place the tube sheet in place.

Here is the tube sheet.  Only a few feet from her final destination.

This final shot isn't great, but here is the smokebox, behind the rods.  I haven't found the smokestack in a while, but that is in good shape.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2010, 9:44pm
The metal brackets on the tubesheet are to allow the forklift to push it in place when the crane picks up the sheet.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2010, 9:54pm

Above is the drawcut shaper, which has been busy cutting the driveboxes for 26 the last few weeks.

Five of her six driveboxes await the insertion of their new bearings next to the shaper.

The Bullard cutmaster is shaping the new bearings just a few feet away.

After the bearings are inserted in the driveboxes, the assembly will be placed on the axles of the drive wheel sets.  Of course the wrapping on the axles will be removed.

The assembly will then be placed in the frame.  She will be rolling soon.  Steaming will still take some time.    Anyone want to wager on her first day running?  
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Nov 4th, 2010, 9:21pm
on Nov 2nd, 2010, 9:54pm, 565fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Above is the drawcut shaper, which has been busy cutting the driveboxes for 26 the last few weeks.

Five of her six driveboxes await the insertion of their new bearings next to the shaper.

The Bullard cutmaster is shaping the new bearings just a few feet away.

After the bearings are inserted in the driveboxes, the assembly will be placed on the axles of the drive wheel sets.  Of course the wrapping on the axles will be removed.

The assembly will then be placed in the frame.  She will be rolling soon.  Steaming will still take some time.    Anyone want to wager on her first day running?  

 
Love the pics! I'm going to wager.....June 2011?
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Dec 15th, 2010, 2:05pm
LOL, Max.  You might be right.
 
I heard that the shop crews have begun riveting the front end tube sheet in place, and this is coming along quickly.  After that, they will rivet the smokebox to the boiler.  This will give them stable footing to guide the tubes in between the sheets, before stretching, and beading the tubes in place.  When she is sealed up, the hydrostatic test will take place.  When the boiler passes inspection, final assembly will begin.  This looks to be an interesting year coming up.
 
No photos, sad to say.
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Dec 28th, 2010, 5:09pm
on Dec 15th, 2010, 2:05pm, 565fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
LOL, Max.  You might be right.
 
I heard that the shop crews have begun riveting the front end tube sheet in place, and this is coming along quickly.  After that, they will rivet the smokebox to the boiler.  This will give them stable footing to guide the tubes in between the sheets, before stretching, and beading the tubes in place.  When she is sealed up, the hydrostatic test will take place.  When the boiler passes inspection, final assembly will begin.  This looks to be an interesting year coming up.
 
No photos, sad to say.

 
Missed this post a while back, but that is absolutely FABULOUS news! Once final assembly comes around, things move fast. Exciting times in Scranton.
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Dec 28th, 2010, 5:24pm
Does this mean we could see her back under steam for 2011 or are we still a ways off?  I know she'll be doing switcher duties, but will they be tapping her for the Ltd runs during the week as well?
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Dec 28th, 2010, 5:35pm
on Dec 28th, 2010, 5:24pm, montclaire wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Does this mean we could see her back under steam for 2011 or are we still a ways off?  I know she'll be doing switcher duties, but will they be tapping her for the Ltd runs during the week as well?

Unless something unexpected comes up, I'd say the 2011 season is a safe bet, though perhaps not at the beginning of it in April or May. I'm speculating she'll head up the Scranton Limited most days, as well as cab rides-could be off though. She may be used on the caboose runs as well.
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Dec 28th, 2010, 5:38pm
A debut at Railfest would be nice.  That should give the shop enough time to iron out all the bugs.
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Dec 28th, 2010, 6:49pm
on Dec 28th, 2010, 5:38pm, montclaire wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A debut at Railfest would be nice.  That should give the shop enough time to iron out all the bugs.

Something tells me June...I don't know why. We'll see. In order to get the bugs out, the loco would have to be broken in, so they'd probably want her broken in before Railfest-if in fact she is completed. I have faith in that shop, however.
Posted by: afboone Posted on: Dec 30th, 2010, 7:52am
Gents, I worked in the shop yesterday on some of the parts for 565 and the shop is a buzz with work on #26.  They are milling the crossheads and journal boxes to their final dimensions.  Also the front sheet is riveted in and they are cleaning up the rivet heads.  Still lots of work to do but making very good progress.  I think we can all agree this is going to be a "new" engine when she rolls out.
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Dec 30th, 2010, 10:06am
Excellent news!  Please keep us updated on the progress, and thank you for your work.
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Jun 23rd, 2011, 12:36pm
Anything new to discuss on the Baldwin?
Posted by: restore_RV15 Posted on: Jun 23rd, 2011, 2:32pm
i was up on tuesday.  Took the shop tour and from what the tour guide was saying, 26 isn't going to be done until next year at the earliest due to the fact that the shop has to do a couple things that they don't know how to do, such as welding the pipes that hold the crown sheet to the roof sheet.  They have to build mock-ups in order to practice before they do the real thing.  On the plus side though, we were told 3713 is looking at being done within the next 3 years
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Jun 24th, 2011, 12:50am
I honestly don't see 3713 being back on the rails within 3 years.  There is a LOT left to go on that engine.  Maybe they meant to say it needs to be finished within three years, as I have no idea how close 3254 is on her tear down, but that could certainly be playing a part.
 
26 illustrates what aggrevates me about Steamtown.  It's fine if the staff has to learn a new task, but bring in someone who already knows how to do it, who can get the work done and teach the regular staff how to do it properly in a timely manner, and let's move on.  
 
Delaying the Baldwin delays 3713, and neither prospect is a good one.  That also means that the FEDs are going to push for all diesel power on the excursions if 26 is not there to provide a "steam experience."
 
I'm not one of the "must restore everything in the yard to working order" type of person, but I do think that Steamtown really needs to have two engines ready to fire with a third under repair at all times.  If you're not meeting that, spend what you need to until you're there.
Posted by: restore_RV15 Posted on: Jun 25th, 2011, 12:18am
nah, he said 3 to 4 years and actually explained it out.  Theoretically, all the pieces needed for the firebox will be at steamtown by september, then its just a matter of getting all the sheets drill for stays and installed.  He said the bulk of the boilerwork was done and that they have all the flues and such, so unless they're doing a full rework of the running gear, I can see it getting done in 3 to 4 years, as long as shop work is consistant.  
 
I agree with you completely that they need to have at least 2 steamers.  The F3s and the FP7s are cool and all, but they kind of have a name to uphold.  I've always been a fan of shutting down the museum for a year and funneling most of the government funding into the shop.  If you think about about, running all the bare minimums to keep the museum in working order would probably cost a million, maybe a little more.  That would leave 4 million left to go into the shop.  3713 needs 2.2 mil to be finished, but theyve raised over 1.3 already, and i highly doubt 26 requires that much more money.  Just one year, and they could be where they need to be.
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Jun 26th, 2011, 4:32pm
True, funds are a part of the sometimes sluggish pace, but I'd keep in mind the fact that the shop crew isn't that big, either. I'm not sure of the exact number, but I've heard it is relatively small. Finding someone who is interested in volunteering and who knows what they are doing is pretty challenging, I'd imagine. Patience is a virtue we must master when it comes to Steamtown. Good things come to those who wait.
Posted by: Brian Tusin Posted on: Jun 26th, 2011, 9:59pm
When I was at Steamtown last year in August, they were saying #26 would be ready by now.  I think having a steam excursion to Moscow is a MUCH better experience then the Scranton Limited train ride.  Their excursion route is great, and there really is not any other place that does run steam excursions like Steamtown on the regular basis like they do.  If they don't run 3254 on the excursions it just won't be the same, and there is no real reason to travel there from a long distance like me since I have been there before.  My point is that, yes the Scranton limited train rides are nice but it is nothing like taking an excursion to Moscow or beyond behind a steam engine.
 
I hope Steamtown will get the 26 running next year, but I am placing my bets on 2013 before it is out and running.  I am not trying to be negative, but I am just going on by what I have seen in the past.  The wheels are not even back under the frame yet and the boiler is still not done.  I am not trying to bash Steamtown, I am just trying to be a realist.
 
On a side note does anyone know when 3254 goes down for its 1472 day inspection?  I am guessing it has to be getting within 6 or so years.
 
Brian
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Jun 30th, 2011, 12:40pm
Brian, I have been asking that question for a while now and I don't recall getting a good answer, so I can't say.  The "limited runs" may also have something to do with the fact that they are on an active freight line, which may restrict their use on weekdays - I'm sure someone can fill us in on that.  
 
I'd also like to remind anyone local or passing through that the L&WV does briefly open up the Moscow station on excursion days, and that the proceeds go towards restoring 3713. They have reasonably priced refreshments and souvineers for sale, and you get to see 3254 steam in with a loaded passenger consist.  There is no cost to just show up.  It's a great option if you have small children who may not be able to make the full trip.  
Posted by: restore_RV15 Posted on: Aug 21st, 2011, 12:31am
Any updates on this little guy?
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Oct 8th, 2011, 10:25pm

After several months of seemingly nothing happening with this 0-6-0, we see some sparks of life in her boiler.  This is a close-up view of 16 boiler tubes installed and clipped in at the smokebox end of the boiler.  

A slightly different angle on the same location.  The nuts and bolts are holding up a shelf of sorts inside the boiler.  I'm not exactly sure why.

I didn't have great lighting for the above view, but this is from inside the firebox.  The firetubes are already rolled, reamed and peened at this end.  I don't know what the next steps are, but this is promising.  
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jan 4th, 2012, 11:56pm
I took the following photos on Dec. 16, and haven't had much chance to post them.  Things are developing nicely on our 0-6-0.

In case there is ever a wonder on how many tubes and stay bolts are in this little boiler, wonder no longer.  All tubes were inserted, reamed, rolled and peened over.  An air pressure test passed very well.  I just don't have a good photo of the tube sheet with all the tubes inside.

This gauge is for when the pressure tests are done.  At least two hydrostatic boiler tests have been taken.  A few leaks were found.  Not a big deal, but they know what needs fixing because of this test.

Another encouraging sign is the gathering of the fire grates, which have been stored for quite a while.  Some need their own repair.

In November and early December, the wheel sets were on the lathe for turning of the bronze bearings just inside the wheel castings.  Nice and shiny now.

The shoe (left) and wedge (right) are inserted in the frame to bracket the drive boxes which were shown in an earlier thread.

Some of the valve gear was installed on the frame too.  The crossheads were being machined over the summer months to fit just right inside their guides.  The guides were not perfectly straight, and the crossheads wore down a lot because of that.  All those slightly wobbly areas are now fixed.

A closer view of the crossheads. A lot of little work leads to a big locomotive running on her own.
 
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jan 5th, 2012, 12:05am

Symbolic of ringing in the new year, last week, Number 26 had her bell returned last week.  Things are looking up for her, and I caught these bits today.

The butterfly style firebox door was being adjusted today so it will fit on the back head.  A minor change in the position of the studs that hold this piece on has led to some grinding of the door to fit properly.

The grates are now arranged neatly, and will be installed in the firebox rather soon.

Even 26's tender has a few extra parts since the big move placed the cistern on top of the frame.  Here we see the chains and drawbar.

And for a fuller picture, we see the doors that hold the coal in the bunker have also been added and painted.  She is ready to roll. Just need the engine part to finish the job.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Jan 5th, 2012, 2:47pm
Looking good 565! It's come along way since I last saw it! Thanks for the pics! I'll have to stop by there soon!
Posted by: Railfan425 Posted on: May 19th, 2012, 9:46pm
Why don't they work on #3713 or a larger engine? That engine can maybe pull 3 passanger cars max it's just gonna be used for yard runs...not to Moscow or anything. Hate to be negative  
Posted by: koasterkidd Posted on: May 20th, 2012, 10:24am
on May 19th, 2012, 9:46pm, Railfan425 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Why don't they work on #3713 or a larger engine? That engine can maybe pull 3 passanger cars max it's just gonna be used for yard runs...not to Moscow or anything. Hate to be negative  

 
They are! 3713 IS being restored. 26 is a VERY important locomotive for the site, because they need 26 for the Scranton Limited to free up time for the larger locomotives to go on the mainline. Plus, it's STEAM!
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: May 20th, 2012, 9:18pm
How come they are taking so long on this small 0-6-0?  If it was Strasburg it be done already.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 21st, 2012, 12:17am
Well Railroad_Buff, it all comes down to manpower and resources. There are only a limited amount of shop personel. There time is spent either inspecting and repairing the passenger coaches, upkeep on current operable steam locomotives, diesel locomotives, and everything else in between. With the current state of the Federal Goverment and their financial cutbacks, just be thankful that Steamtown has what it has. 26 will be operating in the next few years and possibly the B&M 3713. CP 2317 is currently out of operation time and has to go through a complete rebuild. Steamtown's mission is more to preserve history through demonstrations, actual operations, and the museum complex itself. Strasburg for example is a FOR PROFIT entity, in which Steamtown is not. Take a tour at Steamtown one day and ask the shop personel what they have to do on a regular basis with limited manpower.
Posted by: koasterkidd Posted on: May 21st, 2012, 8:14am
on May 21st, 2012, 12:17am, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well Railroad_Buff, it all comes down to manpower and resources. There are only a limited amount of shop personel. There time is spent either inspecting and repairing the passenger coaches, upkeep on current operable steam locomotives, diesel locomotives, and everything else in between. With the current state of the Federal Goverment and their financial cutbacks, just be thankful that Steamtown has what it has. 26 will be operating in the next few years and possibly the B&M 3713. CP 2317 is currently out of operation time and has to go through a complete rebuild. Steamtown's mission is more to preserve history through demonstrations, actual operations, and the museum complex itself. Strasburg for example is a FOR PROFIT entity, in which Steamtown is not. Take a tour at Steamtown one day and ask the shop personel what they have to do on a regular basis with limited manpower.

 
To add to the amount of manpower, at some times, it would only be one or two people working on her (because of availability, etc.). Not to mention that they have had to work on more important projects, such as their operating fleet of passenger cars, maintenance on their own locomotives, sometimes visiting locomotives, and so on. She's getting there, but you all need to give them time, and let them do their job. Plus, would you rather have her finished right, thoroughly, and with pride? Or rather her be out fast, patched together with scotch tape, and have her dropping eccentric rods all over the park? So before the question is asked (again) she'll be out when she's out.
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: May 22nd, 2012, 7:25pm
You know if you keep making excuses long enough , You'll start believing them your self.  
Steamtown has been a government money pit for years.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 22nd, 2012, 10:44pm
I see your a pessimist Railroad Buff. Your like many people, criticizing when you have no idea what your talking about. Volunteer at the shops in Steamtown then see the hurdles that they have to overcome everyday. That is all.
Posted by: koasterkidd Posted on: May 23rd, 2012, 8:14am
I completely agree with you, NKP759fan! And Railroad_Buff, have you ever even visited Steamtown? Just taking the shop tour alone will help you understand. I took the shop tour during RailCamp, and I learned what really has been going on. And don't even bring up that webpage about Steamtown being "A Failed Mission," because the person who created that webpage told me himself that he has seen extreme improvement over the years, and will re-do his "review" because of this. So stop being a foamer and stop making up ways to criticize.
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: May 23rd, 2012, 11:27pm
Well, Guy's I have been there many many times. So your not fooling any one hear.  
The fact the Government Can't run the country , and they sure the heck can't run an operating rail museum.  Just my Two cents.
 
Tim
Posted by: Ashley_John Posted on: May 24th, 2012, 9:04am
on May 23rd, 2012, 11:27pm, Railroad_Buff wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well, Guy's I have been there many many times. So your not fooling any one hear.  
The fact the Government Can't run the country , and they sure the heck can't run an operating rail museum.  Just my Two cents.
 
Tim

 
I only have one thing to say: get involved - volunteer and help make things happen. You CAN make a difference!
Posted by: wrg113 Posted on: May 24th, 2012, 10:29am
Success is measured by more than just what and how many choo choos are puffing around the yard and how many trips are run to the Water Gap. Steamtown has many layers of responisbility and a vast collection of archives, railroad history relics, etc. for which they do an A+ job.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 24th, 2012, 11:48am
Well said Gentlemen. Steamtown is a step back in history. Where else can you have that feel. Strasburg is nice, but you dont get the history feel there. Steamtown is smack in the middle of where the Industrial Revolution began. Just stand in the 1902 Roundhouse where the cutaway locomotive is and you can imagine what a place it was in the hayday of Steam. Take a walk out in the yards and know that the ground you are on held hundreds and hundreds of locomotives but all different railroads. Steamtown surely is an amazing place and truly is a step back in time.
Posted by: koasterkidd Posted on: May 24th, 2012, 12:13pm
on May 24th, 2012, 11:48am, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well said Gentlemen. Steamtown is a step back in history. Where else can you have that feel. Strasburg is nice, but you dont get the history feel there. Steamtown is smack in the middle of where the Industrial Revolution began. Just stand in the 1902 Roundhouse where the cutaway locomotive is and you can imagine what a place it was in the hayday of Steam. Take a walk out in the yards and know that the ground you are on held hundreds and hundreds of locomotives but all different railroads. Steamtown surely is an amazing place and truly is a step back in time.

 
I salute you, NKP759fan! lol
Posted by: koasterkidd Posted on: May 24th, 2012, 12:28pm
on May 23rd, 2012, 11:27pm, Railroad_Buff wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well, Guy's I have been there many many times. So your not fooling any one hear.  
The fact the Government Can't run the country , and they sure the heck can't run an operating rail museum.  Just my Two cents.
 
Tim

 
6 things:  
 
1. I think that you are a child.
2. I think that you are a foamer.
3. You tell me 5 things that proves that Steamtown is poorly managed.
4. You tell me 10 things you know about restoring, operating, and maintaining a steam locomotive.
5. Tell me how to thoroughly perform a 1472 day inspection under limited funding and limited manpower.
6. Tell me how your two cents has any credibility.
 
Answer them. If you can answer them and you have reasonable points,then good for you. Do you want a cookie? If not, then don't go criticizing a historic site for being what it is. You know, F. Nelson Blount didn't HAVE to have this collection, but he was generous enough to snatch up what he could before his tragic death.
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 12:26pm
on May 22nd, 2012, 7:25pm, Railroad_Buff wrote:       (Click here for original message)
You know if you keep making excuses long enough , You'll start believing them your self.  
Steamtown has been a government money pit for years.  

 
You can complain behind a railroad forum screen name, or you can get your butt in gear and volunteer at Steamtown to get the engines moving again.
Posted by: bassman Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 2:05pm
on May 22nd, 2012, 10:44pm, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I see your a pessimist Railroad Buff. Your like many people, criticizing when you have no idea what your talking about. Volunteer at the shops in Steamtown then see the hurdles that they have to overcome everyday. That is all.

 
It's "you're" not your. That is all.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 6:25pm
Congratulations Bassman!! 7 years on the forum and your the first person to pick out a grammar error that I made. Keep up the good work!!  
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 8:46pm
Well tell that to my English teacher in High School .  
 And why your at it to that to Mr. Webster too.  
 
Tim.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 8:53pm
Haha i figured that was you "bassman". Regards.
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 9:05pm
Mr. Buff,  
 I believe since you have nothing to contribute to the Steamtown forum but ridicule. I believe the Strasburg railroad forum is up to par based on your "experience with the UP steam program".  
If i am incorrect in my statement, feel free to continue posting on this forum. Your entitled
To your opinions, but a negative atmosphere does nothing on this website.  
 
 NKP759fan
Posted by: Ashley_John Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 9:37pm
I think Railroad_Buff is a bit soured with Steamtown for some reason  .
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 10:08pm
Indeed......
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 10:20pm
Well from doing research on Railroad_Buff and his previous posts in other topics on RF.net, it certainly sounds like LEN SHANER!! Nice try Lenny! He pick's up one spelling error while his post on the top of this page makes no sense. Get a life Lenny and move on!
Posted by: George_Harris Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 10:47pm
on May 30th, 2012, 8:46pm, Railroad_Buff wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well tell that to my English teacher in High School .  
 And why your at it to that to Mr. Webster too.  
 
Tim.

Probably should stay out of this.  In general most here are fairly relaxed about grammatical precision.  However, when bringing in the English teacher, it is best not to be standing in a glass house.  If you English teacher will give you a passing grade on the sentences you have just committed, that person needs a refresher course of his own.  
 
In "And why your at it..." I think you are trying to say, "And while you're at it.    
 
It appears certain that you meant "while' as in at the same time as, and the appropriate contraction for "you are" is "you're", not your, which is the possessive form of you.  By the way, I am reasonably sure that there should be a comma after the "Why" at the start of the first sentence, but don't hold me to that, as the most common correction I got on papers graded for grammar was "extraneous commas"
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: May 30th, 2012, 10:52pm
Well at least we all know it's Len Shaner. He can't hide behind different peoples names.
Posted by: mike_nepa Posted on: Jun 1st, 2012, 6:11pm
Absolutely! I had a special tour a few years ago where I saw parts of Steamtown the public normally doesn't. The archive of records they have is mind blowing. The work they do to preserve these documents and to catalog them is amazing. They also have an impressive collection of railroad artifacts.
 
 
 
 
on May 24th, 2012, 10:29am, wrg113 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Success is measured by more than just what and how many choo choos are puffing around the yard and how many trips are run to the Water Gap. Steamtown has many layers of responisbility and a vast collection of archives, railroad history relics, etc. for which they do an A+ job.

Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Jun 2nd, 2012, 8:36am
on May 30th, 2012, 10:20pm, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well from doing research on Railroad_Buff and his previous posts in other topics on RF.net, it certainly sounds like LEN SHANER!! Nice try Lenny! He pick's up one spelling error while his post on the top of this page makes no sense. Get a life Lenny and move on!

 
Good, I wasn't the only one who smelled something fishy. As to hiding behind other names, it's what he does-we've compiled a list of at least 20 names and profiles he's stolen or created. Sad. Anyways, yes Steamtown does have quite an amazing and extensive archive collection. I've always wanted to visit it...maybe someday!
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jun 2nd, 2012, 9:34pm
Here are some photos I took today of the progress seen on Baldwin 26 since my last group.

Starting with the boiler, the smokebox is now added on, but with nuts and bolts for the time being. Rivets will need to be installed for that water-tight fit.

Moving onto the frame, this is now primed and painted.  So is the crosshead.  The crosshead guides needed to be planed to be perfectly straight.  The twisted frame also twisted these.  Or they were modified to keep the twisted frame functioning.

Close-up view of the crosshead on the engineer's side.

Two yellow jacks being used as spacers in the frame.  This is the location where the drive box/bearing/axle assembly will be in the near future. Notice the odd shape of the wooden block. This is where the wedge will be installed, snugly holding the drive box in just like the metal shoe on the opposite side.

Springs!  Leaf springs, actually.  A huge box of spring-rigging and hangers is on the floor right next to the table where the springs sit.

The drive wheels are now attached with their side rods.  The large pin on the closest wheel will hold the main rod in the center portion and then the eccentric crank on the outer portion. This is the Fireman's side.

Now the Engineer's side.  Notice how the pins and rods are not in the same position as the Fireman's side.  They are off balance by 90 degrees.  This quarter balancing, which keeps the valve gear working, prevents the piston from finding the center of the cylinder and making start-up of the motion even harder than it needs to be.

Every part of a steam engine has a purpose.  As big and necessary as the boiler is, it also needs smaller parts like this one, the exhaust nozzle, to function properly by drafting the used steam out of the cylinder.

The lineup of the drive boxes.  All six of them have been slung on the axles at one time or another for fitting.  Now the grease wells are being sized and installed.

A closer view of the drive box with its grease well. Looking closely, you can tell that all of these pieces have been "bulked up" with weld or other means, and then shaped down to fit perfectly.  The sizes and dimensions are going back to the original 1929 specs.  Parts that were adjusted to fit the twisted frame over the years are either modified back to "square" or they were thrown out.  
 
26 is coming along.  The work is amazing to see, but she still is not that close to assembly.
Posted by: Railfan425 Posted on: Jun 16th, 2012, 4:11pm
Does anyone know on what time she will be done, or not?
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: Jun 16th, 2012, 9:28pm
The rate their moving  up there. maybe Three years from now! Don't give the excouse that their low staft either. Strasburg has the same amount of people who work in their locomotive repair shop.  and they work on a lot of other  projects at the same time , plus run passenger/ freight service.  Even Reading and Northern gets more done with 425 and they have Two Men working on her. Not the Six or more that Steamtown has working on 26.  
 
 
Tim
Posted by: Ashley_John Posted on: Jun 16th, 2012, 10:38pm
on Jun 16th, 2012, 9:28pm, Railroad_Buff wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The rate their moving  up there. maybe Three years from now! Don't give the excouse that their low staft either. Strasburg has the same amount of people who work in their locomotive repair shop.  and they work on a lot of other  projects at the same time , plus run passenger/ freight service.  Even Reading and Northern gets more done with 425 and they have Two Men working on her. Not the Six or more that Steamtown has working on 26.  
 
 
Tim

 
Once again, do something instead of spouting negativity. They DO HAVE a VOLUNTEER program.
Posted by: 3254Fan Posted on: Jun 17th, 2012, 9:14pm
Who is this Railroad Buff? I thought I came through here many times before to clean up the negativity but it always seems to come back.
 
I have to agree with everyone, since you know so much about Steamtown's shop crew and what you think they're capable of, why aren't you there helping? They do NOT have the same size crew as Strasburg. I went on Strasburg's shop tour a few weeks ago and they have many brand new guys there to keep up with all of their contract work. Plus, they have dedicated crews for their car shop, boiler work, welders and machinists. And I'm not making this up, this came from the shop tour guide who gave the tour. They have around 15 people working in their shop.
 
Steamtown on the other hand has had to maintain two of the east coast's largest operating engines while keeping a dozen passenger cars in service and the restoration of two more engines. There are only two dedicated car shop workers who have to help on other projects when necessary. Currently, 3713 does not have a dedicated crew as they've all been busy rebuilding the car fleet and ensuring 3254 gets repaired since different problems have come up on it this past winter. Considering the fact that they're all working on other projects, I'm surprised to see that the 26 is showing progress.  
 
The shop at Steamtown has less than 10 people full time. The park, as a unit of the National Park Service, has to ride the tides of budget crunches and different hiring regulations that the government puts on it. Steamtown's 5 million dollar budget, while it may seem like a lot, doesn't go as far as one may think. Maintenance, salaries, grounds keeping, even things like pens and paper all come out of that budget. AND, that's one of the higher budgets that the Park Service has, considering Steamtown's attendance numbers. Let's also remember that the Park Service does not want Steamtown and never did in the first place.  
 
Bottom line, the Park has a lot of critics internally. Let's not make things harder by nit picking everything that we see on the outside without lending a helping hand. Plus, don't get me started on all the other operations who have been restoring engines for a decade now without progress. Yet, everyone else gives them a break and commends them for all they do.
 
Posted by: YeOldeEnjine Posted on: Jun 17th, 2012, 11:50pm
on Jun 17th, 2012, 9:14pm, 3254Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
 Who is this Railroad Buff? ........    

 
Mr. Lenny Shaner
Posted by: George_Harris Posted on: Jun 18th, 2012, 4:27pm
on Jun 16th, 2012, 9:28pm, Railroad_Buff wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The rate their moving  up there. maybe Three years from now! Don't give the excouse that their low staft either. Strasburg has the same amount of people who work in their locomotive repair shop.  and they work on a lot of other  projects at the same time , plus run passenger/ freight service.  Even Reading and Northern gets more done with 425 and they have Two Men working on her. Not the Six or more that Steamtown has working on 26.  
 
 
Tim

OK, we have gotten the message that you are very negative about Strasburg.  It is getting really old and tiring.  Give it a rest
 
I think it is time that the moderator just has an automatic delete reaction when he sees the Railroad Buff character.
Posted by: Brian Tusin Posted on: Jun 18th, 2012, 4:35pm
It does seem like they are making good progress, but I doubt it will be out anytime this or next year.  I am not bashing Steamtown, I can tell they are doing one of the most complete rebuilds since the steam era.
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: Jun 19th, 2012, 9:39pm
I'm not bashing Steamtown. I'm stating only the truth , that I see fit. Also I'm not Mr. Shaner. But we have been over this dead horse a few times. I didn't say anything about Strasburg , just that their crew knows what their doing.  
 
Unless you have all positive talk in here your happy, but if some one steps on some toes, your right ready to hit back.  I live in the real world of Black / White.  
 
There is more then only two people in the shop btw. You have Ray, Barb, Little Mike, Big Mike, Bruce Mowbray, Big Dave and Little Dave, Kevin, Mike Tilger, and few others.  Plus Bensman's crew working on B&M 3713 . I know many people who work there. and I'm friends with Garry Bensman.  
 
But I don't know nothing?
 
Tim
Posted by: Ashley_John Posted on: Jun 19th, 2012, 10:17pm
on Jun 19th, 2012, 9:39pm, Railroad_Buff wrote:       (Click here for original message)
But I don't know nothing?
 
Tim

 Double negative!
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jun 20th, 2012, 10:59am
How about taking the discussion on this thread over to Baldwin 26, where it belongs?
I have no photo of it, but on Monday, her boulder was lifted by the 30 ton crane and moved over to the frame.  Measurements were taken for the waist sheets which will allow for expansion of the boiler when it is hot, and still stay attached to the frame.
If anyone has photos, please post them.    Thanks
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: Jun 20th, 2012, 9:08pm
565Fan, " her boulder was lifted by the 30 ton crane"  Don't you mean her boiler?  
 
Tim
Posted by: Max Hamberger Posted on: Jun 20th, 2012, 9:42pm
on Jun 20th, 2012, 9:08pm, Railroad_Buff wrote:       (Click here for original message)
565Fan, " her boulder was lifted by the 30 ton crane"  Don't you mean her boiler?  
 
Tim

 
Let he who is without sin (or in this case, grammatical errors) cast the first stone. So, that puts you somewhere around near dead last. Anyways, back to the 26. Wonderful news, and the pictures that can be found around the interwebz really do show spectacular progress!
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: Jun 20th, 2012, 10:43pm
Max , Just remember your own rules there.  
 
John 8:7  
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her".
 
Tim
Posted by: wrg113 Posted on: Jun 21st, 2012, 4:17pm
Moderator!
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: Jun 21st, 2012, 10:22pm
Don't you like see what the holy bible has to say?  Aw to bad.  
 
Tim
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Jun 22nd, 2012, 7:58pm
June 16 2012
* This photo is a out of focus one of the repaired frame.  
toptrain
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Jun 22nd, 2012, 7:59pm
* Here is the Boiler photo taken on June 16 2012
toptrain
Posted by: mikado1555 Posted on: Jun 22nd, 2012, 9:59pm
On June 2nd, 565fan said, "The sizes and dimensions are going back to the original 1929 specs.  Parts that were adjusted to fit the twisted frame over the years are either modified back to "square" or they were thrown out."
 
Are the original specs meaning original dimensions or original tolerances?
 
Did they use a string line along each side frame and set the tram so that the axles will all be in tram and have the frame centered between the rails? If the engine has not been tramed, then there is a big risk of having hot journal bearings and side rod bearings as well as creating weird flange wear.
 
Were the crank pins quartered (or set to the same "quarter" if it is not exactly 90 degrees) or were the crank pins turned to a new diameter without checking quarter and throw? If the quarter is off, there is a risk of rods binding. If throw is off on 1 wheel on one side (throw does not need to be the same on both sides, all wheels on one side need to have the same throw within tolerance of what the cylinder and piston can handle) then there is a risk of binding.
 
The original specs, meaning dimensions here, more than likely won't work well as parts (shoes, wedges, boxes, crank pins, journals, crown brasses, hubs and hub liners) and the frame have more than likely worn so their dimensions are not close to the original.
 
Are they rebuilding everything and replacing crank pins, axles, crown brasses, tires, etc to get everything back to original dim? Or are they rebuilding and traming her to get her back to the original tolerances? Similar meanings and both can be considered "original specs" yet they are quite a bit different.
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: Jun 23rd, 2012, 10:00pm
How did the frame get twisted? First I knew of this.
 
Tim
Posted by: koasterkidd Posted on: Jun 24th, 2012, 6:35pm
on Jun 23rd, 2012, 10:00pm, Railroad_Buff wrote:       (Click here for original message)
How did the frame get twisted? First I knew of this.
 
Tim

 
"Bent" would be an appropriate word to use, rather than "twisted"
Posted by: Railroad_Buff Posted on: Jun 25th, 2012, 1:58pm
Ok. How did this event happen?
 
Tim
Posted by: mikado1555 Posted on: Jun 25th, 2012, 5:03pm
I am not sure about #26, but know of other engines whose frames have been bent in derailments or been bowed during normal old-time hard running conditions. I have also seen frames that have not been perfectly straight or inline and were most likely been that way from the time they were built. Depending on how much the frame is off, adjusting the shoes and wedges, hub liners and boxes may allow the frame to be centered in the track without needing to do major work to the frame.
 
I would not be surprised if it would be something similar or a culmination of things for #26.
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Jun 27th, 2012, 12:21pm
on Jun 22nd, 2012, 9:59pm, mikado1555 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
On June 2nd, 565fan said, "The sizes and dimensions are going back to the original 1929 specs.  Parts that were adjusted to fit the twisted frame over the years are either modified back to "square" or they were thrown out."
 
Are the original specs meaning original dimensions or original tolerances?
 
Did they use a string line along each side frame and set the tram so that the axles will all be in tram and have the frame centered between the rails? If the engine has not been tramed, then there is a big risk of having hot journal bearings and side rod bearings as well as creating weird flange wear.
 
Were the crank pins quartered (or set to the same "quarter" if it is not exactly 90 degrees) or were the crank pins turned to a new diameter without checking quarter and throw? If the quarter is off, there is a risk of rods binding. If throw is off on 1 wheel on one side (throw does not need to be the same on both sides, all wheels on one side need to have the same throw within tolerance of what the cylinder and piston can handle) then there is a risk of binding.
 
The original specs, meaning dimensions here, more than likely won't work well as parts (shoes, wedges, boxes, crank pins, journals, crown brasses, hubs and hub liners) and the frame have more than likely worn so their dimensions are not close to the original.
 
Are they rebuilding everything and replacing crank pins, axles, crown brasses, tires, etc to get everything back to original dim? Or are they rebuilding and traming her to get her back to the original tolerances? Similar meanings and both can be considered "original specs" yet they are quite a bit different.

 
 
I think that the answer would be that 26 is being restored to it's original design parameters, and that the "quick fixes" are being eliminated.  Meaning they are doing the restoration in the proper manner.  This would also explain why it takes so long to properly shop a steam locomotive.
Posted by: mikado1555 Posted on: Jun 27th, 2012, 4:40pm
Yeah, I understand why things take a long time. I also do work on steam engines and also am a machinist. What I was told is that it looks like you did more with 10 minutes of painting than what you do with 10 hours of machining. Yeah, that is about right.
 
Also now-a-days the shop forces are not as large (easy 200+ in a roundhouse and 200+ in a back shop of a large terminal) and there are other things that need to get done. It is a balancing game.
Posted by: koasterkidd Posted on: Jun 27th, 2012, 6:54pm
The good thing is that 26 (hopefully) shouldn't need another rebuild that takes as long or costs as much as this one, which is good for the Site
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jun 27th, 2012, 11:20pm
This photo helps to show some of the damage which bent the frame.  Look above the chain to the right of the coupler. There is a bulge atop the pilot beam. This also has an indentation right above the chain, but it doesn't stand out as clearly.

 
No one is sure what the locomotive hit.  But with their ingenuity at the time, they were able to make do without searching for another frame.  The boiler was okay after the crash, so why mess with it? She had a long career with the bent frame, but it was time to change things for the better.
Posted by: afboone Posted on: Jul 1st, 2012, 8:50pm
I think I was told she was wrecked at the Baldwin factory.  Something about a boxcar and her ran into a wall.  Not sure.
 
Posted by: The_Former_Fireman Posted on: Jul 3rd, 2012, 5:56pm
I always had a suspicion that the pilot beam was damaged before being attached to the locomotive.  Perhaps while the casting was still "soft" after forging at the plant.  Notice that the steel is warped (not cracked) and there appears to be a relatively small point of impact.  
 
The 26 was originally built as a "house" switcher and used a lot of components already on hand (there are several different casting dates on various components).  Could it be that somone on the shop floor just pointed and said "use that one over there" when the time came?
 
For a whole locomotive to hit something that hard, to cause that much of an indentation, the impact would have been cataclysmic.
 
Just my two cent conspiracy theory.
 
Dave Crosby
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jul 3rd, 2012, 6:50pm
I don't know the details, but cataclysmic is the word.  Every part of the frame, plus the valve seats, the crosshead guides, and other parts have been reworked to make the frame straight.  A wire was used to line things up as she was being straightened out. This is part of why the work is taking so long.  This portion alone took from late 2007 to mid 2009 to complete. The shoes, wedges, binders and "lollipop" bolts were made in 2006 in preparation for this.
Posted by: mikado1555 Posted on: Jul 3rd, 2012, 9:39pm
So were the shoes, wedges, wedge bolts and binders all made before the frame was straightened and measurements could be taken from the frame to have the locomotive be in tram?
 
Or were they rough machined to be finished after measurements could be taken from the straightend frame to have the axles be in tram with proper lateral and other tolerances?
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Jul 5th, 2012, 1:38pm
on Jul 3rd, 2012, 9:39pm, mikado1555 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
So were the shoes, wedges, wedge bolts and binders all made before the frame was straightened and measurements could be taken from the frame to have the locomotive be in tram?
 
Or were they rough machined to be finished after measurements could be taken from the straightend frame to have the axles be in tram with proper lateral and other tolerances?

 
Do you know something we don't?  If you're trying to drive home a point just make it already.
Posted by: afboone Posted on: Jul 5th, 2012, 1:44pm
All of the required finished work for the binders, wedges, and jounral boxes were just completed.  And the shop folks who did the work are artists with a milling machine.  Everything fits beautifully.  Many of the brake linkages were adjusted during it's twisted frames days and now are junk.  Many are already done being remade from the prints.  The springs were even adjusted for the frame.  The new springs are in the shop and waiting their turn on the installation process.  I've said it once I will say it again this will be a "new" engine when she comes out.
Posted by: mikado1555 Posted on: Jul 5th, 2012, 3:30pm
Montclaire,
Well if you use the original blue prints and machine the new parts to those dim, they will most likely not work due to other parts being worn and/or modified over the years and/or things were modified during the building process.
 
565fan stated that the shoes, wedges, wedge bolts and binders were done in 2006 while the straightening of the frame was done late 2007-2009, which brings up the question how were the proper dim determined for the items which were machined in 2006, as they also depend on the frame dim.
 
I am also not sure if you feel offended by my questions, or annoyed because I am curious about how things were done. I am not here to "make a point" but curious about the process. A lot of the work on these old machines is not specifically done right of a plan, but based off of measurements of the frame and other parts to get them to work and fit properly.
 
 
on Jul 5th, 2012, 1:38pm, montclaire wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Do you know something we don't?  If you're trying to drive home a point just make it already.

Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Jul 9th, 2012, 9:41am
Steamtown is a bit of a magnet for people looking to stir up trouble.  If your questions are sincere I have no issue with them, not that I have any authority to do anything about it anyway.  I think that most, if not all posters on here with inside info are volunteers, and are probably not privy to every little detail.  
 
Until some evidence is presented to make us all think that the repair work on 26 is being handled improperly, I see no reason to assume that it possibly is.  Steamtown's communication with the public is a bit... non-existant on some of these matters, so questions are natural.  But, for all the criticism that Steamtown attracts, the common complaint is the pace of their repair work, and never the manner in which it is performed.  
 
Two cents.
Posted by: mtillger Posted on: Jul 10th, 2012, 10:04pm
Frame was straightened and it actually matches the print in the critical locations! Pedestal binders were made custom to fit up with frame toes Shoes were made to match the side rods which did not match print dimensions. All parts were made to work together. Shoes were roughed out earlier and finished to final dimensions recently. No, not every dimension has been restored to print as that is not always cost effective. All drive boxes were brought back to a standard size and hubliners were custom fitted. Mikado is correct when he states that the tolerance's are the critical dimension, not the print dimensions.
Mike Tillger
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Aug 25th, 2012, 9:21pm
August 2012 update.

The grate hangers have been added to the firebox of 26. I took these photos last week.

The next photo shows the underside of the hangers.  The linkages are in place for shaking the grates.  This will allow the fireman to drop ash into the ashpan so the fire doesn't snuff out.


The nice stacks of finger grates that will be put into place.  Even a seemingly simple task like moving things around takes some time away from the overall job.

When pieces are taken off a locomotive, they often look like they don't belong to it.  I believe these newly primered hangers will go on 26.

Luckily, some parts are tagged so I know where they will go.  These are hangers  that will hold the running boards alongside the boiler.

And some of the covers for the valve and piston area.
My last photo for this post.  These are the main springs that will be added to the frame and suspension.  The spring hangers are already attached, but I could not get a decent photo of them.

Now, on to September and RailFest.
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Nov 25th, 2012, 2:17pm
Any news on this little guy?
Posted by: 3254Fan Posted on: Dec 25th, 2012, 12:47pm
I had the pleasure of seeing the 26 this past weekend. The smokebox has been riveted back onto the rest of the boiler. The frame looked like it was being prepped to drop onto the drive wheels where the drive boxes, brake riggings and springs will all be added. The domes and smoke stack were all painted and looked ready to go. From here it looks like the engine is ready for final assembly. The tender is complete and waiting in the roundhouse. The cab will need a final coat of paint and lettering. I'd say things are looking good to see her in service next year!
Posted by: montclaire Posted on: Dec 27th, 2012, 10:15am
That's good, since you probably won't see 3254 on the rails again anytime soon.  That still means diesel only for the mainline excursions though.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jan 31st, 2013, 10:24am
Today is the day, predicted so long ago... Baldwin 26's frame was lifted by the 30 ton crane and placed on her drive wheels!  
 

When I caught up with the crew, the frame was set atop the drive boxes on the axles.  The tolerances were very tight, so it is taking some time in adjustment.

While four or five guys are working on the frame, some firebox work continues on the boiler.  The boiler grates and hangers have been removed so the added weight doesn't overwhelm the crane's capacity.

Each of the axles and boxes are fitting in place, but to make sure nothing closes in at a funny angle, three of the workers are watching how the frame lowers on the drive boxes.
More photos to come!
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jan 31st, 2013, 10:35am

There are so many parts balanced against one another on a steam locomotive that the precision of lowering the frame is very important.  Since many parts are brought back to original 1929 specs, the correct fit can't be taken for granted.

 

It isn't easy taking still photos of workers actually at work.  But believe me, they were all over this item while placing the binders and bolts underneath the frame.

 

Looking forward to the day when the boiler gets mated to the frame.


As the crane lowered, jacks were put in place by the ends.  Teamwork and communication are big parts of accomplishing this huge task.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jan 31st, 2013, 11:19am
Now that the frame is connected with the wheels and suspension, this whole is referred to as the chassis. As big a deal as it is, there is still a long way to go.  


Two views of one of the steam distributing pipes shows there is still work to be done to get this and its mate in the smokebox.

And then there are the brakes.  Here are the hangers and clips that will hold the brakeshoes.
 

This isn't a great shot, but you can see that 26's tender is off her trucks again.  The measurements of the height of the tender compared to the frame showed a difference.  So the drawbar will connect them at a decent level, the springs are being pressed.


 
As I posted several years ago, I make no promises for when Baldwin 26 will run.  But things are looking really good these days.
 
 
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Feb 25th, 2013, 11:34am

I got an early warning last Tuesday, Feb 19 that the cab of 26, previously painted black, was going to get a coat of olive green.  Recent research of Baldwin engines turned up that when she was new in 1929, she and many other Baldwin locomotives were painted in green.  Black was by request only.  
Above, we see her sanded black body early in the morning.

I stood outside the paint booth when the painting began after lunch time.  

Nearly done with the first coat.  Like most things, the preparation and clean up take most of the time.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Feb 25th, 2013, 11:45am

The next batch of photos comes from Friday, Feb. 22. The chassis of 26 was rolled into the paint booth on Thursday.  Painting takes place this week.  To make sure certain parts don't get paint or gummed up by it, the valve gear and rods were covered in foil and tape.

Here is the cab, all dry now.  

And a view taken without flash.  Neither picture quite captures the shade of olive properly.

Imagine everything here that is black will be green.  A lot of sanding is needed to prepare her.

This front view shows her with the coupler attached so the track mobile can move her.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Mar 1st, 2013, 7:59am
The entire frame has been cleaned with denatured alcohol to prepare it for primer coat next week.  Work continues on other pieces of the loco in the main shop.  Her tender might be next in the paint booth.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: May 4th, 2013, 1:01pm
The wheels are being painted in an aluminum or silver shade of paint on the spokes and counter-weights.  It looks like the tires will also be that aluminum color.  
The tender will be brought in the paint booth this coming week, (May 5-11) for its own green and aluminum paint.  It is also likely that the boiler will mate with the frame/chassis this week too.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: May 9th, 2013, 11:14pm
This past week has been very busy in the locomotive shop.  After green paint on the frame was complete, preparation for the aluminum spokes and tires was completed.  On Monday, May6, the chassis of 26 was rolled back into the main locomotive shop floor.

Above we see the chassis to the right of the boiler.  Boiler jacketing was applied and then removed from the boiler so the crews would know all the parts they have. Some new sheeting was prepared.  These will go to the paint booth soon. We also happen to catch them lifting one of the sand domes off the boiler.  

Here's a closer view.  Those trimmed tires really make the assemblage "pop".

The side rods were ready to be replaced on the wheels after painting.  This work was completed by May 8.

Many other parts of 26 such as this piping has already been painted green.  It still shows that a lot more work needs to be done.

And here is what took place today around 1:00!  The boiler is just about ready to be placed atop the frame and chassis.  This will be the final time they mate.  Bolting, riveting and other work still remain before she roars out of the shop, but she is getting close!
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: May 11th, 2013, 11:05pm
Work continues...  
Preparation in the painting of the tender continues.  This will also be green with aluminum lettering and stripes.  She will look sharp.

One side is sanded already.  
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: May 12th, 2013, 1:41pm
Is the boiler back on the chassies?
Al
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: May 12th, 2013, 4:50pm
Yes, Al.  The photo on May 9 shows it just a few inches above, about 5 minutes before the boiler was set to rest.  I took that shot with the phone camera, and video-ed the last few minutes.  When I get it on YouTube, I will post it here.
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: May 12th, 2013, 8:27pm
Thank You Tin
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: May 14th, 2013, 8:17am
http://youtu.be/t6faWeYZHXQ
Here is the video of the boiler installation on the frame.  Enjoy!
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jun 5th, 2013, 8:42am

Bringing folks up to speed, here is a collection of photos showing her current status.  Many parts have been painted in the Baldwin green, and are waiting for installation on no. 26.

Here is the throttle lever sitting inside the steam dome lid.

Piping, grab irons and a blow down nozzle sitting nearby.

The "one-lung" air pump.

The power reverse.  All only a few pieces that need to be added to the main engine.

All of the photos above were taken on May 28.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Jun 5th, 2013, 9:01am
Now for some photos taken May 30.

Spacers in the smokebox.  There is still a lot to do.  Steam delivery pipes are not yet set to install in here.

The running board on the fireman's side is in place.  It will be removed later, since it's installation would get in the way of other work.  But this test shows that all they need is there.

Using the overhead crane, one of the running board racks is being picked up to take over to the boiler.

Walking it over.  Try this without a crane!  

Bolting it in place to the stud.

Bolting another in place.  Notice this is just a piece of metal and the other is a casting.  This one will only support the running board.  The other holds the running board above and one of the air tanks below.
 

Meanwhile, the painting of the tender continues. This is the silver or aluminum layer.  When the lettering is done, green will go over it.
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Jul 1st, 2013, 10:34am
To add a little. Here is my June 9 photo.  
Firemans side.
frank
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: Aug 13th, 2013, 10:00pm
Anything new ?
Al
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Aug 18th, 2013, 11:33pm
I have no new photos, but as of today, a lot of items have been added.  The brake pump is affixed to the boiler, and so is the power reverse.  The steam deliver pipes are sitting near the rest of the engine, and may be added in the next week or so.  Inside the smokebox, the exhaust nozzle and the petticoat have been added.  
 
A couple tracks over, the tender is sitting, freshly painted in her new green and aluminum markings.  Still a lot going on, and still a lot to do.
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: Aug 19th, 2013, 9:08pm
Thank you Tim
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Aug 26th, 2013, 5:01pm

** Yesterday at Steamtown. Work goes on and more sheeting is in place. The tender has been painted and lettered for a few months.  
frank
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Nov 4th, 2013, 10:26pm
It's still a long way from running, but progress is taking place.  Remember that throttle lever in the steam dome earlier this year?  That lever is now on the back head of 26.

Other additions… Last week, I caught Big Mike inside the smokebox.  He was placing bolts in there so he could secure the exhaust plates / smoke lifters inside.


He was soon called off that job to work a yard movement getting the DL&W F3s ready for winter repairs.

Other work still underway is the rebuilding of the trucks, again, for the tender of Baldwin 26.  
 
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Nov 4th, 2013, 10:36pm

The cab, when installed will sit atop these spacers.  If you look closely, you can see the grate shakers near the firebox door area.

Inside the firebox, we see the grate hangers nearly ready to accept the grates.  The grates are sitting in a steel crate next to the boiler.
A test fire-up of the locomotive will take place soon.  I am not sure all that still needs to be added to the engine, but you will notice the gauges and other apparatus are still missing from the back head.  

The cylinder caps have been removed from the steam chest.


But more and more, she is looking like a complete locomotive.  The faceplate was added recently, giving her back that lovely face.

This above photo was taken today, November 4.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Dec 3rd, 2013, 5:25pm
December 2013 update.

In the paint booth, the sand domes are being roughed up in preparation for the primer and coats of paint.  By the end of this week, the domes should be painted green, and ready to go on the boiler.  This will get them safely off the ground.

The steam dome cover is also ready to go.  

The windows for the cab are sitting in the carpentry shop waiting to be installed on the cab.  The cab sits in the paintbooth covered in plastic for now.
 
Things are coming together. Bit by bit.
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: Mar 2nd, 2014, 4:41pm
Anything going on hear?
Al
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Mar 4th, 2014, 7:17pm
I lose track of what I post and where.  There are some shots from January on RYPN.org, but here are photos taken today, March 4.

Those sand domes being prepared for paint in December were placed on top of the boiler in January.  Here, we see some additional piping leading to the turret valve.  Big Mike is working on a lot of piping repair and fittings.

Another view.

Notice anything different by the smokestack?  

The dynamo, painted green, has been added.  This is a welcome piece.  If you didn't already know, this powers the lights and radio.  It produces 32v of DC current.

Beautiful skyline.  Now to get the steam dome cover on.  
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Mar 4th, 2014, 7:24pm
Now on to the tender.  It seems like the more repairs they make on this locomotive, the more repairs are needed.  In the earlier photos of 26's tender in black, it was all together.  Problem is it rode higher than it should.  New leaf springs didn't have the flexibility to give when the weight of the cistern went on.  Even full of water, the trucks did not flex down.  The trucks were removed and rebuilt.

Here is the cistern.  In gleaming green waiting for the trucks.  Their reassembly just concluded.  Some leaves were taken out, and weights added, so they flex better.

Any day now, they will enter the paint booth to be painted green, and then placed under the rest of the tender.

 
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Mar 17th, 2014, 10:42pm

The trucks are now green, to go with the rest of the tender and engine.  
The paint was still a bit tacky to the touch when I took these photos last week.

 
Back to the engine...  More parts being added.  The footplate for the cab flooring is now bolted on.  

 

Pressure gauges are now attached and hooked up.
 

The Throttle is temporarily taken back off, but the tubing and piping for the various controls is now in place.
 

The reverser lever looks pretty snazzy sitting in place.
 

... and just for fun, here is the firebox floor, featuring all of the grates in place.  Could a test-fire be in the near future?
 
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Apr 6th, 2014, 12:02am
Thursday, April 3 saw the cab being placed on the back of number 26's boiler.

I caught this a few minutes after they finished the job of bolting it in place.

The main reason the cab was put here, for now is to secure the floor panels, so that holes cut for the plumbing (water, steam, air and lubricant lines) are in the right place.  There is so much new material here that when you bend a pipe to be exactly like the one it replaces, it is possible for it not to meet where it should, as in connecting to the injector in this photo.

The view from a distance.  Engineers side.

Front view with a few things between me and 26.

The bolts in place.
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: May 11th, 2014, 7:25am
Anything new in the last month?
Al
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: Jun 9th, 2014, 6:52pm
Well no answer last month I will ask again anything new going on?
Al
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: Jul 16th, 2014, 10:01pm
Are they still working on this locomotive?
Al
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Aug 2nd, 2014, 8:13am
Of course they are. Not to worry. It will be done and running. Steamtown will have a steam locomotive operating in the near future.
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Aug 13th, 2014, 6:58pm
Here are photos from this past Saturday 8/9/14.  
frank  
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Aug 13th, 2014, 7:01pm
photo 2
frank
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Aug 13th, 2014, 7:01pm
photo 3
frank
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Sep 25th, 2014, 8:20pm
I took these photos mid-September.  

This shows the firebox door being worked on.  It can be open using the lever near it's top, or air activated by pressing on the foot pedal.

Still a lot of parts to be assembled on the backhead.  A lot of plumbing to be connected, and the throttle still needs to be set in place.  The throttle box is on a pallet on the floor of the shop about a track away from the engine.

The valve boxes.  I am not certain what the yellow X means. It could still require work.

The valves are being repaired.  Work is coming along nicely with these.  
 

 
Engineers side view.  A lot has been connected but still a lot to do.  
 

 
Firemans side view.  The silver pipe above the drive wheel is for the steam line.  Coaches will be heated by her.  Don't expect high heat like we got from 2317 and 3254. 26 is a saturated steam engine, and the steam temperature is a little higher than the boiling point temp (about 360 degrees)  The bigger engines are superheated, so they get hotter, dryer steam.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Oct 21st, 2014, 3:24pm

 
The big news in the past week is that the tender is now mated with the rest of the engine.  Connections still need to be made to allow water into the boiler, of course.  Also, the pistons that were installed have been taken out.  New pistons that had been on order were picked up on Monday, October 20.  They will be machined, with rings installed and the piston rod connected so they can be attached with the rest of the running gear.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Nov 24th, 2014, 11:34pm
November 2014 update!

Our little engine that could is getting closer everyday to operation.
The latest dilemma that is being overcome is bending heavy gauge copper pipe to go to the injectors.  The injectors use steam to lift the water into the boiler. The old piping had kinks which prevents the steam from flowing in a straightforward manner.  The bends in the pipe were put in to allow it to connect the injector and span over the top of the beached of the firebox.

A fitting is already put on one end.  The chalk markings you see on the table helped the machinists in plotting out the curves and radii so the pipe is bent the right way and not over-bent.

Bruce is too fast for my camera.  Using that apparatus on the table, he will make the final bends in the pipe.

Test fitting the pipe over the top wrapper sheet in among other items.

And on the other side... the pipe will still need a bit of work and cut off at the end before perfectly fitting in place.

Earlier in the day, Mike O heated up the new pistons so they can fit the piston rods in to the center hole. According to Bruce on Facebook, The piston was heated to 300 degrees F with the ceramic heaters.  With a .004" press fit to the collar, (1/16" over a 3/4" per foot taper).  Heating it up that much increased the hole size .005"   They make it look so easy.  

Believe me, it was still hot.  The other piston was getting a similar treatment, but not yet mated with its piston rod.

If you can't see very well, the piston rod is hanging from the overhead crane. The white blanket is a fireproof insulation that retains the heat on the piston as it is being heated.  By the end of the work shift, both rods were keyed into their pistons.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Dec 30th, 2014, 9:52pm

Catching up before 2014 hits its end.  These were taken November 30.  We see 26 has a new addition, a Christmas wreath.  I did not get a chance to view the engine when the wreath was lit, but she was for a day, and then a fire was placed inside her for the first time since 1999.
 

The first piston was placed on the horizontal lathe to get channels cut, and prepared for the piston rings.  
 

Not too much to report on the valves for the moment, but here sits one of them.
 

The valve box will soon be bolted to the frame.  
 

For those of you who don't know where these parts go, they will be on the top of the cylinder area, where the wooden lid is in this photo.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Dec 30th, 2014, 10:15pm
The first fire led to bringing enough pressure to test the blow down valve. On December 15, they raised the pressure to about 25 psi and blew the whistle.  A short video clip of this is on Facebook.   https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=743267379077355&set=o.81351641754&type=3&theater
 

On December 13, I took these pictures of the progress made on machining the pistons.


As you can see, this will become the left piston.
 

 
The piston and rod for the right side patiently sits in the bull pen.  
 
On December 17, after blowing the whistle, the pressure was brought up to full capacity, 180 psi, and using the water and steam, they cleared out the passages and the blowdown valve.  Getting rid of several years of dirt, dust and crud that accumulated in the rebuild process. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=906165449395993&set=vb.151286568217222&type=2&theater
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Dec 30th, 2014, 10:28pm

Also on the 17th of December, Boston & Maine 3713 was moved about in the yard to get placed on shop track 5.  She had been on track 4 since 2004 or 2005. This makes her easier to spot while on a shop tour.  
Nickel Plate Road 514 took up residence on track 4, and will get more heavy repairs this winter.  
More work to be done on 26, but it looks very good that she will return to the rails under her own power in 2015.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Feb 21st, 2015, 4:39pm
On Thursday, February 19, the FRA hydrostatic test on 26's boiler, the last one before reassembly, took place. Everything passed with no exceptions.  This coming week, the crews wil begin adding the lagging and boiler jacketing.  Then she will move into the paint booth for her final coats of paint and lettering.  The running gear will be worked on and applied around that time.  Obviously, some parts are heavier than others, so the main rods and eccentrics may wait until she is out of the booth, and back on the floor.  They need to be buffed up to a shine again, too.  Here is what she looked like on the 18th of February.
 

 
There is still no date on her first run.  The season begins on April 18, and there is still a lot of work to do.  But looking at the posts from the past 12 or so years, she has come a long way.
I had a rare opportunity to get on the overhead crane to take these shots.
 


 
This view is inside the smokebox.  The protective cement is meant to keep cinder-cut on the smokebox floor to a minimum.  As the coal burns and breaks down, the draft of the smokestack pulls the cinders through the firetubes.  Literally, they sandblast the smokebox metal, the petticoat and other parts inside.  

 
Here is a fuller view of the smokebox.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Feb 21st, 2015, 4:44pm
on Feb 24th, 2005, 12:13am, Timbo611 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
sheesh, is all you guys ever talk about whistles?
 
Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing Jerry Jacobson's first steam locomotive back in service in the near future, so good luck Steamtown!
 
While I'm at it, one of Jerry Jacobson's newest steam locomotives is coming along very nicely too, if anyone knows what I'm talking about.

 
Almost 10 years to the day when Timbo posted this, and we are actually getting close to his seeing Jerry's first steam engine in service.  
Posted by: NKP759fan Posted on: Feb 23rd, 2015, 9:23am
Great pics Tim! It will be great seeing 26 under steam, have not seen it under steam since a school field trip there in 1994 haha.
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: Mar 22nd, 2015, 7:41pm
Anything new?
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: May 21st, 2015, 9:36pm
These two photos were taken May 15.  See anything new?  

 

 
Boiler jacketing and lagging are going in place.  That is the obvious part.  But if you look under the main drive wheel, there is a newly made apparatus for setting the timing of the wheels with the pistons.  This was done in late April.  More parts going on.  More parts yet to go on.  The valves are not yet in place.  
Posted by: alzubal Posted on: Jul 6th, 2015, 10:04pm
Any news?
Al
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Oct 21st, 2015, 3:03pm
These were taken by me during Railfest 2015.  26 was expected to be ready to run, or steam or something.  Instead, her cab was opened in the loco shop, and the headlight plugged in.

 
Nearly everything in the shop was available to watch.  Machines were operating, and the ring of fire was going with the trailing wheel set from CN 3377.  A lot of things to draw your attention.

Workers on the ground and in the cab helping the visitors get access to their engine.  

 
I have no photos since then.  The engine and tender were separated for a while.  They are re-attached now.  Valve mechanisms and packing material are being installed.  Ashpan hopper work and brake work were fixed and installed.  Copper tubing for the lubricator has been installed.  A lot of work, but the only measure to the casual observer is to see the pallets full of parts a few weeks ago that needed to be installed.  Now those pallets are nearly empty.  Steam-up can't be too far off.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Dec 8th, 2015, 3:46pm
We made it!  Today is the day Baldwin 26 left the Locomotive shop.  I won't say "For Good," because she will return periodically for inspections and repairs.  However, she is now taking up residence at stall 20 in the Roundhouse.

 
She left the locomotive shop around 10:30 this morning, led by the blue trackmobile.  She was shoved from shop track 9 to roundhouse track 16, the "run-through" track.

From there, she was gently shoved on to the turntable.  
 

From there, we chocked the wheels so when the trackmobile left, she didn't start taking off on her own.
 

How about a little sun on your face?  
 

The trackmobile then attached to her tender for the ride back to stall 20.  
 

In to the house she goes!
 

The newest resident of the roundhouse.  a beauty from 1929.  
 

After lunch, she had a fire in her belly.  
Tomorrow, tests on the appliances.  Operations for the full 2016 season begin in April.  We shall see if she runs around town before then.  
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Jan 9th, 2016, 6:48pm
Season closing day was about 2 weeks ago. I was told she, #26, not only raised her steam but rode around here and there. Even moved DL&W F3A 664 around to a spot in the back shop, for us to work on. That was closing day. 26 was today back in here stall, maybe for the rest of the winter. I was there today with 2 others to work or 664's lighting problem, and latter 664B. We install some more of the inside lights that line the outer, inside side walls.  
 frank
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Jan 9th, 2016, 6:54pm
Second photo of 26.
 frank
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Feb 4th, 2016, 8:24am
The debut ceremony of Baldwin 26 is now set for Sunday, April 17.  Details are not yet set on times, or specific activities.  The final work on the valves and lubricators is under way to get her ready for this date.  We may even see or hear some break-in runs take place in March.

26 currently resides on track 20 of the locomotive shop, next to Canadian National 3254.

With the valve covers and jacket off, she looks rusty for now, but this is a minor factor in making her run.  We look forward to a long life with her.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Mar 9th, 2016, 1:52pm
On February 17, Baldwin 26 was steamed up again, to check on the leak repairs, and the brake pump.  A larger pump which was added during the restoration was louder than the engine's smokestack chuffing, so this was looked at.  When she left the roundhouse, she was attached to a couple of coaches, so her steam heat system could be checked.  This was about 2 hours at the most, and the day was not great for photography.  Some photos and videos were taken, and posted in other media, but I was not around to take any pictures.

Here's the situation as it stands today.  26 is on track 8 of the shop, while F3 664 is on track 7.  Tight fit, indeed.

The larger air pump is being disassembled.  She may find other use in the future, but not on 26.  The original pump removed from 26 in 1999 is getting some rehab work, and will be attached in a few days.  In this photo, you see one of the older pistons from 26 sitting next to the turret lathe.

Fill in the blank.  

This artistic view of the oil pots on the crosshead guides looked really sharp this morning.
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Apr 24th, 2016, 9:48pm
Last Sunday, April 17, Baldwin No. 26 greeted her adoring public in grand style.

 

 

 

 
Running from the locomotive shop, through the roundhouse to reach the turntable.  Seeing a locomotive heading out of a door is an incredible experience
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Apr 24th, 2016, 9:59pm
A short turn on the table led to her dedication track.

 

 

 
The lady in the hat is park superintendent Debbie Conway.  The dedication ceremony would begin in a few minutes.
 

 
The man without a hat is Jonathan Meade.  He spoke on behalf of the Northeast Region of the NPS.  He is assistant regional director.  Regional director Michael Caldwell must have been called away to speak at another park that day.
 

 
Taking a deep breath, the two hold the scissors to cut the ceremonial ribbon.

 
Hooray!  Baldwin Number 26 is officially dedicated.  
 

 
A long whistle blast says that she is here for the long term!
 

 
See how she runs.

 
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Apr 24th, 2016, 10:04pm
Tuesday, April 19 saw Baldwin no. 26 under steam again, and a bit off schedule.  This was not a public ride day, but a chartered train to welcome members of the Federal Railroad Administration and a conference they were holding at Steamtown's theater.
 

 
This train was different in that it ran facing west.  We don't do that often.
 

 
Now on the Steamtown runner, she shoves her coaches eastbound to pick up the guests at the Radisson Lackawanna Station Hotel.
 

 
Push push:
 
Posted by: 565fan Posted on: Apr 24th, 2016, 10:07pm
Here she is arriving at the Roundhouse to discharge her riders.
 

 

 
Barb Klobucar leads the people past the engine to the theater where the conference would take place the next three days.