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Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
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Alek77
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Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« on: Jul 31st, 2006, 9:06am »
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Post your pictures and info of this engine here.

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Alek S.

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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 31st, 2006, 10:03am »
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Well I do have one really foggy pic of her...
 
The 6039 is a neat loco. She'd look good on the main (like that'll ever happen ), but they do keep her in good cosmetic shape.


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Alek77
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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #2 on: Jul 31st, 2006, 12:47pm »
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Restoring #6039 would indeed be nice because it does look like a fast pace locomotive for the fans, but restoration of #3713 and possibly #759 (I hope not) is getting in the way of Steamtowns plans. More fans would appreciate an American Locomotive, and GTW #6039 looks like a Canadian engine and would not benefit. Since #2124 cannot be restored to operationable condition because the turntable would not fit it, it gives Steamtown even more of a chance to restore this particular engine. IC #790 will probably be next in line, and #6039 should be after that. Since #790 and #6039 are among my favorites in the collection, I would like to see this happen. #6039 is probably not too heavy for the Scranton to Pocono Summit trackage, Steamtown can really make some very interesting operations if they put their back into restoring more than one engine at a time.Since the #6039 has bad cylinder castings, we could donate money to Steamtown to help fix the cylinders.This engine is exactly the kind of modem, heavy-duty, main line motive power that should become the primary focus of the Steamtown collection. NPS should commission a report to document the use and physical history of the locomotive.If it can be restored to run, it should be so restored for interpretive use and special excursions; if it cannot be restored mechanically, it should be restored cosmetically to serve as a static exhibit engine in the roundhouse.Although ostensibly in good condition, this engine reportedly has bad cylinder castings, which means that its restoration for operation may not be fiscally within reason, although enough money will buy any type of repair. As with many locomotives in the collection, this engine had its drive rods removed for the move from Bellows Falls to Scranton, and those need to be reinstalled.Locomotive No. 6039 is one of about 17 Grand Trunk Western Railroad engines that have survived in the United States, of which 10 are 0-8-0 switch engines, so that No. 6039 is one of only seven Grand Trunk Western road engines, and the only 4-8-2 of the railroad to survive. No. 6039 is the only 4-8-2 Mountain-type engine in the Steamtown collection, and one of only 14 "Mountains" preserved in the United States, six of which were engines of the St. Louis and San Francisco Railway.
 
-Alek


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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #3 on: Jul 31st, 2006, 12:49pm »
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sorry for such a long post

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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #4 on: Jul 31st, 2006, 3:22pm »
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It has been mentioned several times on this board that NO locomotive will be restored next. 3713 will take forever to complete, and when it is complete, it is doubtful mainline excursions will still be going on. 790 will not be restored next! Nothing will!

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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #5 on: Jul 31st, 2006, 11:42pm »
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on Jul 31st, 2006, 3:22pm, 3254Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
It has been mentioned several times on this board that NO locomotive will be restored next. 3713 will take forever to complete, and when it is complete, it is doubtful mainline excursions will still be going on. 790 will not be restored next! Nothing will!

 
Whoa, calm down man! We all know it is highly unlikely that anything will be restored after 3713, and we are aware of the potentially unfortunate situation surrounding the mainline excursions, but we can still dream. Don't be too hard on the kid . Oh, and nice pic John !


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Alek77
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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #6 on: Aug 1st, 2006, 9:50am »
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MAYBE THEY WILL RESTORE #6039


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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #7 on: Aug 1st, 2006, 10:06am »
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Well, only time will tell (is that real time or Steamtown time?   )

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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #8 on: Aug 1st, 2006, 6:57pm »
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Oh, um, well #6039 does look like one of the larger Mountains (4-8-2s) Ive seen.

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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #9 on: Aug 1st, 2006, 11:23pm »
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on Jul 31st, 2006, 12:47pm, Alek77 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
. More fans would appreciate an American Locomotive, and GTW #6039 looks like a Canadian engine and would not benefit.

 
 
    The average visitor won't notice the difference between a Canadian built locomotive and an American built. Of course that doesn't matter when the engine was built by an American builder, for an American railroad (All-be-it a subsidiary of a Canadian road).  
 
    Allot of people have expressed the idea that Steamtown should focus on the restoration of American engines (It being funded by U.S. tax dollars) and not those built and operated north of the border. However, it can not be overlooked that it is likely that both the 2317 and 3254 operated in the United States during their regular service career (2317 over CP's International of Maine Division and the 3254 on the Central Vermont)
 
-Justin  
Who would pay good money to see the 2317 return to the former CP Moosehead Sub here in western Maine.  


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Alek77
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 2nd, 2006, 8:55am »
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I know steamtown is trying to get the cash to continue their operation. I still think Steamtown should sell 2-8-0 1923 back to the adorandacks where it belongs. That would bring in some profit. And they should also sell MEC 2-8-0 519 to get even more money.

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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #11 on: Aug 2nd, 2006, 11:43am »
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Steamtown receives approximately five-million dollars annually from the U.S. Government (aka: yours and my tax dollars), so I don't think they need money to 'continue their operation' - it's there.  That money is not necessarily going to the restoration of steam locomotives, it goes towards regular day in and day out stuff.  
 
Does Steamtown need more money? Sure they do, I'm sure they would love to have every engine in the Scranton yard restored, but so dose the rest of the National Park Service. Selling a few pieces of equipment will certainly not be enough to restore another engine to operation.
 
-Justin


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Alek77
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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #12 on: Aug 2nd, 2006, 7:16pm »
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OH.

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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #13 on: Aug 7th, 2006, 8:23am »
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Iwant to see it running again!  

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« Reply #14 on: Aug 7th, 2006, 11:55am »
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Did I forget to post this picture.

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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #15 on: Aug 7th, 2006, 7:35pm »
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a bit fuzzy, but good!

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« Reply #16 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 8:33pm »
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The 6039 with the 790 way off in the distance...

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« Reply #17 on: Sep 11th, 2006, 4:39pm »
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I think steamtown should put a REAL number plate on her and give her a tender logo like The Grand Trunck Western logo they put on 6325 every so often.
 
 
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 12th, 2006, 3:40pm »
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on Sep 11th, 2006, 4:39pm, Ollie wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I think steamtown should put a REAL number plate on her  

Their probably worride someone will steal it. Great pics of the 6039 everyone Steamtown keeps her looking good.
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Re: Engine Disscusion: GTW #6039
 
« Reply #19 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 9:56pm »
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Hey guys,
  6039 would be a great engine to see restored but the cylinder castings are shot, which means that if that engine was to run again, new cylinder castings would have to be made, which would most likely be the most expensive part of the restoration, if it were to happen. But the 6039 is a slick looking engine with the box pox drivers. Take it easy guys.


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