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« Reply #80 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 9:48pm »
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Heres the best pic I could get during our shop tour. Did you know that this is going to be the first steamer ever fully restored by Steamtown? That surprised me! The guide said that the other engines all came to Steamtown in operating condition. Did the former owner of the collection have them restored, or were they just always kept in decent running condition.

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« Reply #81 on: Aug 15th, 2006, 9:36am »
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Let's see. 26 was operable when it was traded with 1551.  
3254 was operable when it was traded with 1278.  
2317 was operable before it came to Scranton.
So 3713 is indeed the first engine restored at Steamtown, does this mean it will be done before 1361?


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« Reply #82 on: Aug 15th, 2006, 3:12pm »
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Restored BY Steamtown.  

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #83 on: Aug 16th, 2006, 10:55am »
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on Aug 15th, 2006, 9:36am, joneau261 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

So 3713 is indeed the first engine restored at Steamtown, does this mean it will be done before 1361?

 
 
Well maybe it will and maybe it will not, but steamtown is not restoring 1361, they never have been.  It is just being restored AT steamtown, by the Railroaders Memorial Museum.  So whichever one is done first, 3713 will still be the first engine restored BY steamtown, as stated above


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« Reply #84 on: Aug 18th, 2006, 10:47am »
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on Aug 16th, 2006, 10:55am, IronHorse wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Well maybe it will and maybe it will not, but steamtown is not restoring 1361, they never have been.  It is just being restored AT steamtown, by the Railroaders Memorial Museum.  So whichever one is done first, 3713 will still be the first engine restored BY steamtown, as stated above

 
Oh, that makes sense


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« Reply #85 on: Aug 30th, 2006, 4:04pm »
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Alek, I don't mean any offense, but you really shouldn't post stuff irrelevant to the topic. Making the 100th post in a threat is something you can say as a side note, but it shouldn't be the main topic of the post.
 
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« Reply #86 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 11:09pm »
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Anyone hear of any progress on the 3713??

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« Reply #87 on: Jan 4th, 2007, 11:19pm »
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Regarding restoration progress, last week, right before New Year's, a lot of hot riveting took place on the smokebox ring.  This is a ring they installed in 2005, if I remember correctly, and held in place with nuts and bolts.  This ring will allow them to bolt on the faceplate to the smoke box when the time comes.  
 
They took advantage of some cylinder work on Baldwin 26 to free up enough men to rivet the 3713.  These men are back on 26's firebox.


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« Reply #88 on: Feb 15th, 2007, 8:38pm »
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So how's progress now

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« Reply #89 on: Feb 16th, 2007, 8:33pm »
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I havent heard anything recently. I think 2008 is the earliest estimate. I could be way off though. But I'm looking forward to when we can have two Pacifics thundering across the Poconos!

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« Reply #90 on: Mar 16th, 2007, 8:52pm »
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March update:
The liner and ring that were inserted in the smokebox a while back are mostly riveted, but are being sealed all around with weld and what is know as caulking.  This is taking an airpowered hammer to the edges and flattening them to make for a tight seal.  In early March, the smokebox door was added back on and adjusted to make sure it fits, and lines up with the bolts that will hold it shut.  It is very strange to see the green door shut after so many years of a gaping hole up front.  
 
When this work is done, they will attack the firebox.  The new sheets are in the shop, but are not yet perfectly molded to be installed in the boiler quickly.


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« Reply #91 on: Mar 24th, 2007, 2:29pm »
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It is very strange to see the green door shut after so many years of a gaping hole up front.

 
I could imagine. But it'll be great!


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« Reply #92 on: Mar 24th, 2007, 8:05pm »
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Thanks for the update. I bet she will look better with  a door
 
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« Reply #93 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 3:08pm »
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July update:
Odds and ends being worked on with this engine, but the main piece undergoing work now is a portion of the mudring. This is the "floor" of the water area that surrounds the combustion chamber (fire area) of the firebox.  Several cracks were welded, and the mudring piece now sits on a machine called a planer.  This is cutting off excess metal from the mudring, which will make it fit in place more securely.  More mudring sections are next, and don't look to need as much welding.  The mudring is to be taken out in three sections;front, and right and left sides.  The part by the door sheet will stay in place.


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« Reply #94 on: Jul 2nd, 2007, 4:19pm »
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Any recent photos? I'd love to see how 3713 is doing.

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« Reply #95 on: Feb 10th, 2008, 9:14pm »
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How far along is 3713 ? Any long range plan for its completion ?  
 
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« Reply #96 on: Mar 9th, 2008, 11:51pm »
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March 2008 update:
The front end mud ring work, begun last summer, and paused over the fall, is nearly complete. A rivet hole here and there is being filled, and tapped.  The reason for the hole work is that the rivets, and water corrosion warped some of the holes in this roughly 3" x5" thick piece of steel.  Deep cracks in the corners were filled and repaired last summer.  Next up is the door sheet-end mud ring.  
 
The boiler has been framed off for ultrasound testing (UT).  The squares are roughly 1' x 1'.  With ultrasound, a device that looks like a small remote control, with a tail, sends soundwaves in the steel and measures its thickness.  In 1998, when I assisted in this test, the routine was to take 5 or 6 sample readings per square.  If you found a thin spot, you kept hunting around, determining what size that thin area was.  The readings at that time showed very few thin areas.  The current test on the boiler will get a more thorough reading, before they go further.  I don't expect any surprises, but it is good to know what you are dealing with.
 
When this round of boiler analysis ends, expect more reports more often.


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« Reply #97 on: Jun 28th, 2008, 10:29pm »
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June, 2008 update.
Didn't realize it has been so long since my last report.  The UT test showed no serious thin spots on the boiler.  Here and there, a portion of the boiler is pitted, and marked "no reading," so they know where a trouble spot might be.  
 
The door sheet steel of the firebox was removed recently, and so was the mudring from that area.  As with the throat-sheet mudring, the corners are badly cracked.  The cracks are being fixed and filled with new steel.  That's all for now.


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« Reply #98 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 12:05am »
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During the shop tour on Sunday 6/29/08, here are a few photos of the 3713. Fireman's side of the firebox, showing alot of stay bolt work going on.

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« Reply #99 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 12:10am »
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The NRHS is still taking donations to help this project along. The amount of work getting done is still upto the amount of donations coming in!!

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