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Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
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adam17
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #60 on: Oct 6th, 2005, 8:50pm »
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I'd like to know to. Any info on the next contender is on Steamtown's "To Restore" list?

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« Reply #61 on: Oct 10th, 2005, 9:02pm »
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on Oct 6th, 2005, 8:50pm, adam17 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I'd like to know to. Any info on the next contender is on Steamtown's "To Restore" list?

 
Unfortunately, not the 2124.  They say it's too big and costs too much to maintain.  But because it is their only decent-sized "Anthracite Roads" engine, it is all the more reason why it is "to stay where is, as is."  It appears these people don't care about the people's viewpoints and are only in it because it is just a job.


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adam17
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« Reply #62 on: Oct 10th, 2005, 10:03pm »
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Yea! I'd like to see the 2124 back under steam. She'd be great for that line!  

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #63 on: Oct 11th, 2005, 7:31am »
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It would be nice but considering that Steamtowns  shop crew are stretched thin, I doubt that the 2124 will ever be restored but that's discussion in the RDG2124 Engine discussion.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #64 on: Oct 11th, 2005, 7:16pm »
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i cant wait until this engine is outta the shop cause it will give us all something new to look at. id just like to say thank you to the steamtown shop crews that are making this happen and cant wait to see her in 2007 thats when the nrhs chapter says shes gunna be done

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #65 on: Oct 12th, 2005, 7:22am »
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I really hope that the engine is done by 07' but latest estimates I have heard are 08' or 09', theres just so many dates flying around.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #66 on: Oct 12th, 2005, 6:15pm »
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Well, the sooner the better !
 
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adam17
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« Reply #67 on: Oct 12th, 2005, 7:05pm »
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on Oct 12th, 2005, 6:15pm, 90_is_the_best wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well, the sooner the better !
 
Brian

 
I cant wait either!


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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #68 on: Oct 18th, 2005, 4:15pm »
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Just something neat I would like to tell you. When the 3713 was being taken apart for restoration, the shop crew wanted to test the steam booster, now this booster did not work since 1958, so the shop crew took it apart and amazingly everything was still lubricated and they even hooked compressed air up to it and it worked, everyone was amazed, so the booster is not going to be a big task, just some cleaning, oiling and put it back together. But the cylinder heads(not piston heads), the steel bolted to the front of the cylinder, has to be replaced because cracks were found.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #69 on: Oct 21st, 2005, 5:25pm »
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Being a huge fan of 3713 and New England railroads, this project should take as much time as it needs in order to get it working right. After that, if CSX and Guilford would come to their senses, send it up to here Boston and pull the sequal to the Farewell to Steam excursion from '56 dubbed "The Return of Steam Excursion."

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« Reply #70 on: Oct 21st, 2005, 6:49pm »
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Okay, here's a question for anyone: Does anyone know whether the 3713 had a collision with a coal truck in Cambridge Mass. in 1945?  You can see why I'm asking if you check www.damnyankee.com/cambridge.html.

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #71 on: Oct 21st, 2005, 7:40pm »
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Hey Yankee,
 The 3713 from my knowledge never hit any truck but I can't confirm that because I do not have a record of any damage sustained to the 3713 or any records about the engine itself.


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #72 on: May 27th, 2006, 4:39pm »
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on May 27th, 2006, 3:07pm, NHI40 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I'm glad to hear that! Maybe in a few years, Steamtown will be running 3 steam engines again!  

 
When will steamtown be running 4 steam engines!!


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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #73 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 1:03pm »
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 How is work going on 3713?  

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« Reply #74 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 10:10pm »
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Not too great, Alek...I'm sure most of you have heard my "Steamtown needs outside help" sermon 50 times already, so I won't repeat it. (if you haven't, check any other Steamtown thread. Chances are it'll be there. If you still can't find it, IM me, and I will be glad to give the whole thing).
 
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« Reply #75 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 11:50pm »
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Well aside from a rant about getting things done quick no matter the cost rather than a less expensive but slow restoration (aslong as everything is done right the first time I do not care how long it takes), I would like to know how things are goin with 3713's restoration.  Does anybody happen to have an update on the progress on it as of recent?
 
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« Reply #76 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 9:51am »
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on Jul 18th, 2006, 11:50pm, Oddly_Entertaining wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well aside from a rant about getting things done quick no matter the cost rather than a less expensive but slow restoration (aslong as everything is done right the first time I do not care how long it takes...
~Casey

 
Casey, you do not get the whole point of the rant at all . I'm not saying Steamtown needs to rush to finish everything because, as you said, it is more expensive and mistakes are more likely. What I mean by my lecture is that Steamtown needs to let other, outside companies help them with their work. Note how it is called the "Steamtown needs outside help" rant, and NOT the "Steamtown needs to get its [donkey] moving and restore everything now" rant.  New Hope and Strasburg, for example, are known for shop crews that help restore locomotives besides their own. And they do it fairly quickly, too...oh boy, I'm starting the rant again ...
 
Bottom line is, Strasburg and New Hope could probably restore 3713 much more quickly than Steamtown could. It would likely cost the same (or even less ) than Steamtown doing it themselves. They just need to take the weight off their shoulders so that they have more time to work on 3254, 2317, 26, 514, and the coaches.
 
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #77 on: Aug 9th, 2006, 5:38pm »
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Why are they restoring #3713?  Why not #790 or smaller engines?      

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« Reply #78 on: Aug 9th, 2006, 9:05pm »
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Steamtowns been planning on restoring the 3713 since 1999 right?  
 
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #79 on: Aug 12th, 2006, 6:56am »
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My tour guide yesterday said they very well could have restored another engine, but this engine had support from other groups and was the most popular.

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