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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #20 on: Apr 29th, 2005, 8:34pm »
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I don't know where you heard that but the restoration is going as planned from what I hearl. When I was at Steamtown last week, most of the work in the shop was on the 3713 and I did not hear anything about financial issues. Here's a link to info about the project.
http://laurellines.org/


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #21 on: Apr 30th, 2005, 7:44am »
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OK. That's good news. I had heard about the money running out from a fairly reliable source, but I'm glad they are wrong. Can't wait to see, photograph and ride behind her!

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« Reply #22 on: Jun 2nd, 2005, 4:45pm »
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Haven't been up to Steamtown in a while. Hows the work on 3713 going?


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #23 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 8:25am »
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Here's picture of the 3713 in service and out. Got these pics from rr-fallenflag.org
 


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #24 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 8:26am »
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I like this one alot!

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #25 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 8:27am »
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Here's a pic when the engine was on display at the Boston Musuem of Science.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #26 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 8:29am »
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Here's a pic of the 3713 next to my favorite engine, the NKP 759

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #27 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 8:36am »
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Here's another picture of the engine at the Boston Museum of Science.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #28 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 8:38am »
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From what I hear they will not, but they will put the "Constitution Plaques" back on the running boards.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #29 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 8:48am »
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on Jun 4th, 2005, 8:38am, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
From what I hear they will not, but they will put the "Constitution Plaques" back on the running boards.

 
Im glad there not putting the smoke deflecters on bur what are the constitution plaques


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« Reply #30 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 9:09am »
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When the Boston and Maine took delivery of its second order of Lima Pacifics in 1937, it sponsored a contest among New England schoolchildren to name those 10 engines and 10 other passenger engines. The contest was open to any pupil in any community along the railroad and included students from kindergarten to the final year of junior high school. The railroad promised to paint the names on the sides of the locomotive and to attach to the locomotive a plate with the name of the boy or girl who suggested the name, as well as the name of his or her school. The contest elicited more than 10,000 names for the 20 engines. A 14-year-old named J. Schumann Moore of Lynn, Massachusetts, a student at Lynn's Eastern High School, suggested the winning name for No. 3713: The Constitution. Other winning names for the 10 Lima Pacifics were for No. 3710, Peter Cooper No. 3711, Allagash; No. 3712, East Wind; No. 3714, Greylock, No. 3715, Kwasind; No. 3716, Rogers' Rangers; No. 3717, Old North Bridge; No. 3718, Ye Salem Witch; and No. 3719, Camel's Hump.
 
Certainly The Constitution was among the more dignified names. Moore said he selected the name because it signified "the backbone of our country. Appropriate especially in that the railroads are the backbone of our transportation system." On December 11, 1937, the railroad held a christening ceremony in Boston's North Station. The railroad would hold two more such contests, one in 1940 and one in 1941, to name eight additional engines. For all 31 named engines, the engine name and the name of the contest winner were inscribed on a pair of large name plates mounted on the running boards on both sides of each engine above the drive wheels. Thus engine No. 3713 and her sisters acquired names, a practice more typical of the 19th than the 20th century in railroad operation.
 
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2c.htm


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #31 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 9:12am »
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IF you notice on the first picture, you will see a board next to an air reservoir tank, atop of the middle set of wheels.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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on Jun 4th, 2005, 8:29am, WM734 Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
When they restore her will they put the smoke deflecters on (elephent ears?)

 
She would look pretty snazzy with elephant ears.


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« Reply #33 on: Jun 4th, 2005, 2:17pm »
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I'd like to see the skyline casing myself, plus maybe the ears.  But let's get her running first!
 
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« Reply #34 on: Jun 5th, 2005, 6:33am »
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I'll be at Steamtown June 14 . I have not been to New Hope or Strasburg but I'm dying to go . The last completion date I heard for the 3713 was 08' or 09'. I also agree that the "elephant ears" should not be placed on the engine.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #35 on: Jun 6th, 2005, 7:17am »
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Not sure  

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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #36 on: Jun 6th, 2005, 4:23pm »
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I'm not volunteering on any Saturday this month but maybe next month. Although I may come down to Steamtown one Saturday this month. Not sure yet. Alright, enought of this talk , we're supposed to be talking about the 3713. I was at Steamtown on Sunday, and got a look at the 3713, not much was happenning to the engine but the CN 3254 was there with it's 3rd axle dropped. I still remember when the 3713 was being sandblasted and was finished, I walked in there and just saw a grayish piece of metal that for over 20 years pulled heavy passenger trains until it was retired when most railroads were running diesels.  I just can't wait till the 3713 is done!

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #37 on: Jun 6th, 2005, 6:43pm »
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The whistle is deep and melodious, much nicer sounding than the 2317's.  Here's a link to the article about the whistle dedication ceremony.
http://www.laurellines.org/wd.htm


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #38 on: Jun 6th, 2005, 8:56pm »
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When you restore an engine, you have to do it right the 1st time. There may not be a 2nd time if something is not fixed correctly the 1st time (steam failure). It does seem far away but it's really not, who knows, it may be done earlier , only time will tell. I'll keep you guys updated on anything that happens to the 3713 itself. Another big task is going to be repairing the tender. From what I hear, it's not to good, repeat of the K-4 tender. Hopefully thats wrong

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #39 on: Jun 6th, 2005, 10:12pm »
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Reading T-1 No. 2101 was restored in 28 DAYS!!!
 I am sure they can do the same with 3713 or even 2124 if not for all the political BS that always seems to block everything from getting done in a timely manner.


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