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Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« on: Mar 23rd, 2005, 8:04pm »
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This is for general discussion about the 3713 . If anybody has any pictures of the 3713 on display at Steamtown or any pictures feel free to post them here. I though this would be a good post because the 3713 will be Steamtowns next operable engine. Feel free to ask any questions. I'll give a link for information about the 3713 if someone is not familiar with it.
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2c.htm
Enjoy!


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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Re: Boston & Maine 3713 4-6-2 Pacific
 
« Reply #1 on: Mar 24th, 2005, 10:07am »
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Just so everybody knows the original whistle for the 3713 has been located, and will officially donated to the Lackawanna and Wyoming valley N.R.H.S. sometime in mid april. And then the chapter will donate to Steamtown.

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Some technical facts about GWR 2-10-0 #90
Built: June 1924
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Builders #: 57812
Class: 2-10-0 Light Decapod
Driver Diameter: 56 inches
Weight w/tender: 186 tons
Fuel: Coal 15 tons
Water: 9,000 Gallons
Sold to the SRR for over $35,000.00 in 1967
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Re: Boston & Maine 3713 4-6-2 Pacific
 
« Reply #2 on: Mar 24th, 2005, 10:12am »
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Yes I have heard that also, thats good they located it. I also heard that the boards that said "Constitution" are still around, but no one seems to know where they are. But it's really not a big deal, Steamtown could just make copies of the original.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #3 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 9:16am »
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heres some pics from steamtown last month of the 3713 they are on my yahoo group here is the adress if anyone is intrested  
 
DHSunburyMainRailrats-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #4 on: Apr 12th, 2005, 8:09pm »
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Wow!  I guess good things come to people who wait 'cause the mechanicswere working on 3713 when I was there 9 years ago!  

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #5 on: Apr 12th, 2005, 9:38pm »
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I have to give it to the shop crews at Steamtown, restoring an steam engine is no easy task at all and finding people with knowledge of a steam locomotive is very hard these days. Now we just wait until we see smoke & cinders pouring out of the 3713's stack

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #6 on: Apr 13th, 2005, 8:20am »
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Keep waiting.

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Some technical facts about GWR 2-10-0 #90
Built: June 1924
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Builders #: 57812
Class: 2-10-0 Light Decapod
Driver Diameter: 56 inches
Weight w/tender: 186 tons
Fuel: Coal 15 tons
Water: 9,000 Gallons
Sold to the SRR for over $35,000.00 in 1967
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #7 on: Apr 13th, 2005, 8:21am »
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The 3713 could, and should have been done two years ago. But what can ya do. The engine is in worse shape than originally thought.

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Some technical facts about GWR 2-10-0 #90
Built: June 1924
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Builders #: 57812
Class: 2-10-0 Light Decapod
Driver Diameter: 56 inches
Weight w/tender: 186 tons
Fuel: Coal 15 tons
Water: 9,000 Gallons
Sold to the SRR for over $35,000.00 in 1967
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #8 on: Apr 13th, 2005, 3:49pm »
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Thats all we can do, but at least we railfans know for a fact the engine will run, I don't care how long it takes just as long as the 3713 is operational.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #9 on: Apr 15th, 2005, 5:24pm »
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Well, it's mid April, and 2317_fan is right.  The five-chime whistle owned for decades by Dave Barnes has been returned to locomotive 3713.  A small ceremony took place at Steamtown's shop this morning (April 15) around 10:30 am, with members of the L&WV chapter, who are sponsoring the restoration, the NPS staff who are conducting the work, and Mr. Barnes, along with his friend, Bill Bennett.  A "test blowing" of the whistle with air was conducted after a few short speeches.

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #10 on: Apr 15th, 2005, 8:37pm »
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Interesting , how did the whistle sound? A mixture of the 3254's and 2317?

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #11 on: Apr 15th, 2005, 8:58pm »
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2102 for a while had a B&M passenger whistle on her, and to me, it sounds a lot like an Espee 6-chime.

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #12 on: Apr 16th, 2005, 2:35pm »
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I was looking through the Saturday Edition of the Scranton Times and I found an article talking about the 3713's whistle. Here's the link.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14360082&BRD=2185&PAG=461&dept_id=416046&rfi=6


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #13 on: Apr 18th, 2005, 8:15am »
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The whistle sounds great after all these years.

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Some technical facts about GWR 2-10-0 #90
Built: June 1924
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Builders #: 57812
Class: 2-10-0 Light Decapod
Driver Diameter: 56 inches
Weight w/tender: 186 tons
Fuel: Coal 15 tons
Water: 9,000 Gallons
Sold to the SRR for over $35,000.00 in 1967
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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #14 on: Apr 18th, 2005, 9:40pm »
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Yes, it has a deep, melodius sound that will echo perfectly throughout the Poconos!  

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #15 on: Apr 19th, 2005, 8:39pm »
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It looks like I'm gonna need to plan to another trip to Steamtown so I can see and hear this great steamer!       

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #16 on: Apr 19th, 2005, 10:28pm »
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Well unfortunately the whistle has been taken apart from the air line in the shop. I don't think you'll be able to hear it until the engine comes out of the shop in the near future. I'd like to hear it on one of the operating engines for a couple of weeks, but I think the whistle is being placed in a safe stoing area.

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Re: Engine Discussion: B&M 3713
 
« Reply #17 on: Apr 21st, 2005, 12:41pm »
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That's fine- I'm hoping to hear it on #3713.  A safe storage area is a good idea, since whistles and horns have a strange way of "walking off by themeselves".

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« Reply #18 on: Apr 21st, 2005, 2:29pm »
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yeah they're known to grow legs

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« Reply #19 on: Apr 29th, 2005, 8:31pm »
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Heard this project is now out of money and all work on 3713 has stopped. Hope this isn't true!

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