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NKP759fan
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Steamtown's Short Train Rides
 
« on: Mar 11th, 2005, 5:57pm »
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What do you all think about Steamtown's short train rides? I personally like them . Any feeback would be appreciated.
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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
J. M. Fusco
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Re: Steamtown's Short Train Rides
 
« Reply #1 on: Mar 11th, 2005, 6:13pm »
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Yes, I like them...I think it would be terrible if they didnt run'em. It just kinda gives museum goers a taste of steam, without taking the trek to Tobyhanna. And, Plus, for us railfans, it gives us constant steam yard photot ops!

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GWR90
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 14th, 2005, 8:06am »
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I like them as well, but to me offering a free train ride of that length is a good value. Strasburg or other railroads would probably charge for that ride. If you think about it though Steamtown must loose quite a bit of money running the shuttles for free, oh well at least we offer something.

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Built: June 1924
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Builders #: 57812
Class: 2-10-0 Light Decapod
Driver Diameter: 56 inches
Weight w/tender: 186 tons
Fuel: Coal 15 tons
Water: 9,000 Gallons
Sold to the SRR for over $35,000.00 in 1967
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 14th, 2005, 10:38pm »
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I like the short train rides too. But I think it's kind of pointless to run train rides from nowhere to nowhere. I think all of the short train rides should stop at the station or even Mattes St. Tower when it's finished. I don't understand why the Park Service just dumped millions of dollars into restoring the tower when they don't even have plans to do anything with it. Sounds pointless to me.

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Re: Steamtown's Short Train Rides
 
« Reply #4 on: Mar 15th, 2005, 8:12am »
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Nothing like giving the vandals something new to work with.

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Some technical facts about GWR 2-10-0 #90
Built: June 1924
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Builders #: 57812
Class: 2-10-0 Light Decapod
Driver Diameter: 56 inches
Weight w/tender: 186 tons
Fuel: Coal 15 tons
Water: 9,000 Gallons
Sold to the SRR for over $35,000.00 in 1967
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 15th, 2005, 8:18am »
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Hey,
 Theres no way that that tower cost millions to refurbish. Maybe close to a million but thats it. As you guys know, that tower is a piece of history and we can't just let it go to he##. True, there is no use for it yet but you never know, maybe Steamtown will stash the volunteers in there  


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 15th, 2005, 8:31am »
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Oh boy, that would be so exciting!

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Some technical facts about GWR 2-10-0 #90
Built: June 1924
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Builders #: 57812
Class: 2-10-0 Light Decapod
Driver Diameter: 56 inches
Weight w/tender: 186 tons
Fuel: Coal 15 tons
Water: 9,000 Gallons
Sold to the SRR for over $35,000.00 in 1967
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 16th, 2005, 1:03pm »
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Indeed it would LOL. But going back to the Mattes Street Tower, the NPS is dedicated to authenticity and historical preservation. It's Steamtowns obligation to preserve the Mattes St. Tower. I like how it looks now, just beautiful. I agree with 3254fan in the sense of stopping by the Station or something or on the bridge a little past the station, but I guess that the engineers want to open up the 2317 on the main behind the mall so it gets a little workout, past the station there is really nothing except for some DL freight cars. I would love if Steamtown ran some rides through South Scranton to the DL shops and return. That would be a nice ride and it would give the people the opportunity to see some historic building like an old silk mill on South Washington Av. and it would be neat showing the passengers where coal mining happened(although South Side is nothing what it looked like after the 1955 Hurricane Diane flooding.) but it would give people some opportunity to see South Scranton. Except there are alot of road crossing to the DL shops and it would be risky running a train there every day, but maybe once every two weeks or something to that nature. In general I think people would enjoy it.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 16th, 2005, 2:57pm »
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That would be nice but don't count on it. You know as well as I do that the rail authority is starting to get as bad as Norfolk Southern with all of this liability crap. I am surprised we get away with what we are doing already.

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Some technical facts about GWR 2-10-0 #90
Built: June 1924
Builder: Baldwin Locomotive Works
Builders #: 57812
Class: 2-10-0 Light Decapod
Driver Diameter: 56 inches
Weight w/tender: 186 tons
Fuel: Coal 15 tons
Water: 9,000 Gallons
Sold to the SRR for over $35,000.00 in 1967
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 16th, 2005, 8:18pm »
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Well these days everybody is scared about liabilty, it's going way out of control. It always seem that Steamtown is always in the middle of all this liabilty concerns. It really limits Steamtowns potential on so many excursions and liability is also the main concern for visiting equipment and thats why there isn't to much visiting equipment. But well have to wait and see what happens with the DL and the LCRA. They may be gone pretty soon and the RN will most likely take over. Maybe the RN will be a little easier on Steamtown As 2317_fan says, only time will tell.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 17th, 2005, 7:36pm »
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Well guys,
 Today the "Scranton Limited" train rides began and was suprisingly busy. The 3254 was the star performer and will be for a while. It was good seeing steam after a long long winter. I really enjoyed myself today.


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 29th, 2005, 7:50pm »
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I do believe Norfolk Southern should be a little kinder to Steamtown. After all, they did have thier own steam program. Steam has rights to that track so NS should consider that. Plus, running south isnt such a bad idea. just run it during the  lunch hour while there isnt as much road traffic. People like to hear the whistle, you kno.

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« Reply #12 on: Aug 29th, 2005, 9:09pm »
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NS would probally never let Steamtown run anyway, they did have a steam program but then they made the big mistake of cancelling it.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 1st, 2005, 11:38am »
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do cn or cp dont have a problem w/ steamtown? why is ns being all gay about this. doesnt the state of pa give steamtown rights to the tracks, since it is a nat'l park?

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« Reply #14 on: Sep 1st, 2005, 10:19pm »
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CP is good to Steamtown , but CN really doesn not pass by Steamtown. CP offered to loan the Steam engine 2816 to Steamtown this past winter, but from what I heard that offer was shot down, but for the 10th anniversary celebration, they sent a GP-40 in a new CP paint scheme, that was nice, but Steamtown only has rights to trackage in the yard and by the mall and some other places, but Steamtown has to pay everytime is goes on the pocono main.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #15 on: Oct 3rd, 2005, 6:07pm »
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on Mar 16th, 2005, 1:03pm, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I would love if Steamtown ran some rides through South Scranton to the DL shops and return. That would be a nice ride and it would give the people the opportunity to see some historic building like an old silk mill on South Washington Av. and it would be neat showing the passengers where coal mining happened(although South Side is nothing what it looked like after the 1955 Hurricane Diane flooding.)

 
Hey NKP,  
 
That "silk mill" you're referring to, the big building where you turn off S. Washington, and pass it to get to Cedar Ave, if I'm not mistaken, isn't that the old Capitol Records factory?  You know, the factory listed on the back of the Sgt. Pepper album?  
By the way, the open area down that part of South Side was called Little England, I believe.  It was decided not to rebuild the neighborhood after the flood.  (Food for thought as we ponder New Orleans future! )


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« Reply #16 on: Oct 3rd, 2005, 9:27pm »
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Hey Jim,
 Your thinking about the wrong silk mill, I believe that burned down a few years ago. But the silk mill I am talking about is right next to South Side Bowling Lanes. It is right across from Sherwin Williams. Not to be off topic but I personally think that New Orleans should be leveled. Can you imagine how much money it would cost to raise the whole city, the city already has gobbled up alot of our hard earned money.


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #17 on: Oct 4th, 2005, 3:47pm »
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I agree there, NKP759. It's a waste because I'm sure another hurricane will just blow through again sometime soon, anyway. Besides, New Orleans isn't exactly Railfanville !
 
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« Reply #18 on: Oct 4th, 2005, 3:50pm »
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So how are the short train rides looking for October 22nd? I would love to get a chance to ride behind the 2317 for the first time since 2003, no matter how short. Will 2317 run all the way up to the station with coaches or just the caboose?
 
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« Reply #19 on: Oct 4th, 2005, 4:25pm »
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It's kinda hard to determine when the caboose experience will be running. Usually on excursion days, the shuttle is usually the passenger cars so my best guess that on the 22nd there will be the passenger car consist

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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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