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Steve G.
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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #140 on: Nov 8th, 2007, 1:25am »
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SUFFERIN' SUCCOTASH  
 
Why does someone have to suffer? What does sufferin' have to do with this topic..?
 
If you mean suffer by having to put up with dismals...NO!... I don't accept that.
STEAMTOWN should be STEAM - ALL STEAM - AND ONLY STEAM !!!
 
Would you go to Mount Rushmore and accept a display of the heads of cartoon characters, because the Presidents could not be maintained?
I don't think so, Al.
 
I'm NOT bashing anyone AT Steamtown. I realize they do the best they can with the budget they have to work with.  
 
MY POINT IS Steamtown National Historic Site should GET MORE FUNDING.  
It is not teaching the proper historical lesson of how great steam motive power was, and how important it was to this nation.
When a dismal is pulling or assisting a Steamtown train, it is teaching that Steam can't handle the job. And that is BULL.
 
I have been preaching this same statement for years.
Guess its time to start talking to the adults.


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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #141 on: Nov 8th, 2007, 3:20pm »
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Amen  

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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #142 on: Nov 8th, 2007, 3:30pm »
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on Nov 8th, 2007, 3:20pm, Reading_T-1_#2124 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Amen  

Ditto .  
 Steam is capable of doing a heck of alot more then what people think they can.
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« Reply #143 on: Nov 8th, 2007, 7:20pm »
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This reminds me of the time a UP freight broke down and one of there steamers (the northern) was on itís was back form a charter and nursed the train back to the yard with itís train. STEAM ROCKS (no offence to Miketherailfan LOL  )
 
Anthony


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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #144 on: Nov 13th, 2007, 1:07pm »
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Yes, steam can do the job.  Just recently (this July) was was shooting the Yreka Western and their leased SD-9 (or was it a 7?) broke down enroute to interchange cars at Montague, California.  They summoned the 2-8-2 off the passenger train laying over in Montague to go rescue the freight, 9 loads and the ailing diesel.  The sights and sounds were incredible.  The pictures even more so!
 
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WM734
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« Reply #145 on: Nov 13th, 2007, 5:55pm »
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Here's another great example:  http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=209363&nseq=28
 
Not 3254, but you get the point...


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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #146 on: Nov 26th, 2007, 3:17pm »
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on Nov 8th, 2007, 7:20pm, Anthony_SRR wrote:       (Click here for original message)
STEAM ROCKS (no offence to Miketherailfan LOL †)

None taken. You like steam better, vice versa for me. It's that simple.


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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #147 on: Nov 26th, 2007, 3:27pm »
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on Nov 13th, 2007, 5:55pm, WM734 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here's another great example:  http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=209363&nseq=28
 
Not 3254, but you get the point...

That's a very nice photo. That just goes to show you steam is more relieable then diesel.
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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #148 on: Nov 27th, 2007, 8:44am »
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"That just goes to show you steam is more relieable then diesel"
 
I don't even know where to start with a statement like that.  It's simply not true.  The steam locomotive was a tool to do a job.  It was a good tool, used until a better tool came along, that being the diesel.
 
If the steam engine was more reliable then every railroad in America must have gotten it wrong when they went with diesel   Something tells me that diesels were just as "reliable" if not more so.
 
Don't get me wrong, steam engines are great, my first real railroad job was as a fireman, and I've spent most of my adult life shooting and riding them but even I'll admit, the diesel is just, well, the better tool in non tourist freight/passenger work.
 
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« Reply #149 on: Nov 27th, 2007, 4:47pm »
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Folks,
   There will be many opinions as to what should run at Steamtown.
Just steam....Steam and Diesel or any other combination or scenario
you can think of. Most of us probably look at the name of the facility and
say that it should be gospel and there should be just that, again others
will look at another way.
    I think that the NPS does a pretty fair job there with their exhibits
on steam and how it helped to build our country  It also shows
why steam was replaced by the economics of the diesel and how it saved
the railroads money.
    If you look at it purely from the point that there is not enough steam,
actually running, well maybe you are correct, but let us not forget that
this facility is run by the NPS and was forced onto the NPS. Also the NPS
has a very low budget for "all" of it national parks, not that of Steamtown.
It does not matter if you are at Yellowstone, Chickamauga or Steamtown.
There is just not enough funding so it is all that easy to do what even
those that work there would like to see done.  
    It pains me to see what many of the static locomotives look like at Steamtown today as when they did when I was there in the mid 80's.
What I am trying to get to is it is so very difficult to run a place with only so
many dollars and even though the facility is called "Steamtown" I consider
myself lucky to see not just those stearmers that are there now, but that
of the 1st generation diesels that call Steamtown home as well. Reality
of the almighty dollar is what runs any and all museums and that of
Steamtown as well. Would I like to see more steam, sure I would, however
I think that we should consider us lucky to see anything run.
    Please find that I am saying this in a most humble way and through
e-mail(forums) you can not always convey your thoughts with the  
correct inflection so I am sorry if someone feels that they are offended
as this is not what I am trying to do. I repsect what you all say.......
    In closing I know that many feel that one thing or another could be
fixed at Steamtown or any other venture as such but let us all be thankful
for what we have now. We can always and should strive for more and having
our past represented during our present and I hope the future.
 
My best to you all for a great holiday season,
 
Eric


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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #150 on: Apr 9th, 2008, 11:34pm »
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April, 2008 update.
 
No major work done on this Mikado yet this year, and she has a new fire in her as we speak.  The History Channel is taping "Extreme Trains" or something like it on Thursday, April 10, so she is ready.  Don't know if she will stay hot for a week waiting for National Park week or not, but this is the earliest steam operation for Steamtown under NPS management... if only for a day, possibly two.


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Anthony_SRR
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« Reply #151 on: Apr 10th, 2008, 3:03pm »
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That is awosme another train show. maybe it will be on by July. I'll put into on the SRR MM tape
 
Anthony


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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #152 on: Apr 21st, 2008, 1:10pm »
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After filming crews left, CN 3254's fire was dropped.  A few minor issues on leaking superheaters were found, and just in time.  She was moved on April 19 from the roundhouse to the loco shop for her annual inspection.  This will include testing the throttle mechanism, drypipe, fixing the superheaters, and checking on wear and tear in the cylinder area.  If all goes well, she will be back in time for the June excursions.

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« Reply #153 on: Apr 21st, 2008, 3:21pm »
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I would like to see her and 2317 both running the week Iíll be up there for Railcamp. Thanks for the update.
 
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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #154 on: May 5th, 2008, 2:43pm »
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May, 2008 update:
As much as I try to stay up on things, I was taken aback to see that the entire stoker mechanism of 3254 is removed now.  The steam driven motor was removed two weeks ago, but I thought that was just being cleaned out or something.  Turns out the trough is being repaired and primered (with primer paint) though the auger looks to be pretty solid.  I never noticed the claw-like coal breakers used in a stoker before this repair, either.  
 
As far as the annual inspection, this work proceeds as normal, with parts being removed and stored on carts and tables for their various tests.  The re-installation of these parts usually takes about two weeks, give or take. If all goes well, Anthony may get to see the two steamers when he comes in for RailCamp.  
 
2008 marks the 10th anniversary of RailCamp, with the NRHS and NPS being the chief sponsors.  I would imagine approximately 300 campers have used their RC experiences as a spring board to becoming more involved in the railroading world.


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« Reply #155 on: May 14th, 2008, 6:23pm »
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Good to hear progress is being made. Too bad '17 won't be on the main much this year.  
 
No matter... it gives me a chance to see '54 head a train to the Gap, rather than stall coming from the Gap.  
 
Keep us informed!
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« Reply #156 on: May 14th, 2008, 7:05pm »
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As long as it is steam for my trip to Tobahana in July I'm happy. I have never been to steamtown so I don't care either way, 2317 or 3254 un like strasburg were I like to see 475 run.
 
Anthony


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« Reply #157 on: May 22nd, 2008, 11:41pm »
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May, 2008 update:
Around 5 PM, the mechanics were installing the auger into the stoker shaft of 3254's tender.  She is coming together.  Many of the parts taken off the locomotive to perform the annual inspection have been put back on.  When the FRA inspector comes in during the next couple of weeks, they will conduct the hydrostatic test on the boiler.  He will determine what if anything needs to be done.  No bad news is expected.


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Re: Engine Discussion: CN 3254
 
« Reply #158 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 11:18pm »
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June, 2008 update:
It seems like it was longer than two months since 3254 last steamed up, but she is coming back together for the remainder of the year.  Nickel Plate Geep 514 shoved her tender out of the Roundhouse today, so it could be connected with the engine, and the entire locomotive was turned on the turntable around 4 PM, to face west.  Not sure why, but her faceplate (smokebox cover) is still missing. The last few days before steamup are what I refer to as the "magic time." Everytime you see a locomotive in this short period, a new part is added, getting her closer to completion.  
 
Anthony, you just might have the 2 steamers for your camp experience.


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« Reply #159 on: Jun 25th, 2008, 12:53am »
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So.......... Is the 3254 a go for this weekend? Has she been steamed yet?  Would be greatful for any info, Thanks.
 
-ED


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