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Berkshire759
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Forum's of Chessie System 2101
 
« on: Apr 23rd, 2009, 8:27pm »
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Here you can post all the stuff about Chessie System 2101

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Re: Forum's of Chessie System 2101
 
« Reply #1 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 7:16pm »
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First and foremost, remember that the locomotive is not "Chessie System" 2101 at all.  She's Reading T-1 class 2101, and was used on the Chessie Steam Specials after serving as engine #1 on the American Freedom Train.  She currently wears the Freedom Train colors on display at the B&O museum in Baltimore.  Ross Rowland, who owned the 2101, traded her to the B&O museum for C&O #614 after the 2101 was damaged in a fire.  She is not operational.  Three of her sisters also survive.  2100 is in operating condition (though converted to an oil-burner), though I don't believe she is running at present - last I heard she was somewhere in the Pacific Northwest.  2102 is currently owned by the Reading & Northern, and was operational as recently as the early 1990s, but is currently in need of an FRA mandated overhaul.  T-1 2124 is at Steamtown in Scranton, PA.
 
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Re: Forum's of Chessie System 2101
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 9:45pm »
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Here are some pictures that I have taken of 2101 in Baltimore at her present location.

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 9:48pm »
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Here is one of her drivers on the engineer's side.

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« Reply #4 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 9:51pm »
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The last is of the back of her tender with many messages from her fans on it.

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Dr. Richard Leonard
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 25th, 2009, 10:42pm »
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Here's a view of 2101 in July 1975, that I took when it was heading up the American Freedom Train in Peoria, Illinois.

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« Reply #6 on: Sep 25th, 2009, 10:45pm »
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Here's another transparency my brother, David Leonard, took at Parnell, Illinois on July 27, 1975.

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Re: Forum's of Chessie System 2101
 
« Reply #7 on: Sep 26th, 2009, 10:45pm »
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A big thanks to the Dr.! We will never see that in person again.
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Re: Forum's of Chessie System 2101
 
« Reply #8 on: Oct 18th, 2009, 2:00am »
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Newsflash:  Little known fact is 2101 isnt as bad as it was made out to be.  It had lots of superficial damage but it passed a boiler inspection when it was restored in Hagerstown before being returned to the BeanO museum.  Hope you 614 fans are happy.  I bite my thumb at Thou.  If it never runs again its because of the crappy conditions in which its been kept since that time.

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« Reply #9 on: Nov 4th, 2009, 11:38pm »
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Have to say I kinda like the Chessie Safety Expres colors 2101 had.
 
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Re: Forum's of Chessie System 2101
 
« Reply #10 on: Nov 5th, 2009, 7:15am »
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NEWSFLASH 2:  The locomotive is for sale at a price according to information recieved.

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alcoguy1
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Re: Forum's of Chessie System 2101
 
« Reply #11 on: Nov 5th, 2009, 3:52pm »
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According to who.  I very highly doubt it.  I know the BeanO museum is thinning out non B&O stuff but I very cant possibly see them getting rid of 2101 unless Hagerstown had a Roundhouse, or the RTHS had money and room.

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« Reply #12 on: Nov 5th, 2009, 5:09pm »
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trust me,it is for sale.  transporting it is another story.on Nov 5th, 2009, 3:52pm, alcoguy1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
According to who.  I very highly doubt it.  I know the BeanO museum is thinning out non B&O stuff but I very cant possibly see them getting rid of 2101 unless Hagerstown had a Roundhouse, or the RTHS had money and room.



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alcoguy1
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Re: Forum's of Chessie System 2101
 
« Reply #13 on: Nov 7th, 2009, 5:08pm »
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C'mon man your gonna have to do better than that.  You cant post that crap on a forum like this and not expect people to be interested.  If your legit, and correct, then people need to know about that kind of thing. So what is it?

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Re: Forum's of Chessie System 2101
 
« Reply #14 on: Nov 10th, 2009, 1:03pm »
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AFT #1 (aka 2101) visited Rochester, NY (Regional Market) in May 1975.  A couple more photos of the Freedom Train:
AFT #1
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1825513
 
ex-NYC Mohawk tender at NYC Museum in Elkhart, IN
AFT #200 was previously New York Central/Penn Central business car
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1825514
 
More info on AFT locomotives and cars:
http://www.freedomtrain.org/html/whereabouts.htm


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BOMX_1200
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Re: Forum's of Chessie System 2101
 
« Reply #15 on: Nov 17th, 2009, 10:04am »
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I've been heavily involved with the Rail Operations Dept at the museum for over 10 years.  The 2101 is NOT for sale and won't be any time soon.  To those that lament her being outside....what piece that's inside now should we move out to make room for it?  These are the kinds of choices that are the reality in Rail Preservation.

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alcoguy1
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 17th, 2009, 5:00pm »
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Thank you for the inside info on 2101.  As far as how 2101 and other equipment is kept, I dont wunna hear it.  5300, 4500, 490, and many others have sat out there for years rotting.  While these three are now indoors many others arnt.  It isnt hard or expensive to put up a poll barn over that equipment out by the parking lot, and even if that cant be done, try and get a coat of paint on it every 20 years or so, that would go a long way.  Look at the IRM they know whats up.  They have very little that sits outside, and what is outside is either so far gone its almost trash, or is just awaiting the next pole barn which never takes all that long to build.  Dont get me wrong, I appreciate what is done at the BeanO museum, I just think more could, and should be done to get those engines under shelter.  Anyway, while were on this subject, those restoration estimations on the locomotives in the roundhouse surrounded by plexi-glass are re-freaking-diculous.  You could build brand new engines for those estimates.

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« Reply #17 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 8:48am »
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You don't want to hear it?  We moved the 490, 4500 etc inside when the restoration facility was complete freeing up floor space in the Carshop.  There is no longer any more room in the Carshop.  A pole barn believe it or not still costs a lot of money, and we have to deal with the City of Baltimore zoning regulations and a severe shortage of space.  We are in the center of a large city and the IRM is not.  They also have far more land to play with.  Not to mention the "feel" of the place... I dare you to tell me that the B&O doesn't have a different feel to it as far as the surroundings compared to someplace like the Penn. RR Museum.  Pole Barns feel like what they are a bunch of steel buildings put up in a cornfield to cover some tracks.
 
As far as paint every 20 or so years, great idea.  When can we expect your check or a donation of your time?  In case you hadn't noticed the roundhouse is full of unique (one of a kind, nothing like them anywhere in the world) locomotives in need of repair.  So Which one of these should we not restore so that we can put paint on an engine that is one of 3 of its class that survives?  Its all about priorities, and right now ours is (and rightfully so) on the pieces that were damaged in the roof collapse.  The estimates on those things in the roundhouse were carefully put together by curatorial staff, and restoration staff from across the country with representatives from such places as the CA State RR Museum, IRM, NC State Transp. Museum, PA State RR Museum, Strasburg RR and the list goes on.  Restoring a 19th century locomotive involves a great deal of special skills, tools, and materials.
 
I'm sorry if this seems a little angry, but I have given up almost every Saturday of my life for the last 10 years to make a difference there.  I may not always agree with the decisions of the curatorial staff, but in general they, and the hundred or so volunteers that make the place run are trying their best to preserve what we can on a limited budget.  Quite frankly its a kick in the teeth when armchair preservationists who have no idea about the real challenges that we face sit there and tell us what we are doing wrong and how we "should" be doing things.  So in essence we await your check or volunteer application.


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alcoguy1
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 4:58pm »
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I know its the same old same old but if I could make the time to volunteer there I surely would.  I do have an idea of what it takes to run an operation such as that and I apologize for going off on my rant.  I truly understand what you are saying and Im not undermining the preservation that is done.  If anything I just wish there were more resources available to preserve all of the equipment properly.  I still think the estimates are a little high, but thats just my opinion.  Anyway, Im really not tryin to kick anyone in the teeth.  In the long run were all on the same side.  I hate drama and Im sorry if I caused any lol.
 
P.S. -  There are 4 T1's left


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« Reply #19 on: Nov 18th, 2009, 5:01pm »
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on Nov 18th, 2009, 4:58pm, alcoguy1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

P.S. -  There are 4 T1's left

 
 
If you count the 2101 in B'more, that leaves three left.


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