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Hoboken Terminal accident 9/29/16
 
« on: Sep 29th, 2016, 10:36am »
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http://abc7ny.com/news/train-accident-at-nj-transits-hoboken-station/1531786/#videoplayer

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« Reply #1 on: Oct 7th, 2016, 5:25pm »
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Very sad, and rather a mess. Apparently one event recorder wasn't working (broke or tuned off, no word I have seen). They have apparently recovered the one in the lead car and found the train went into emergency (obviously too late) at a speed around 20 mph, double the limit entering the station area. Heard a news bit (No idea if accurate or from NTSB) stating train accelerated from c.10MPH, that engineer states no memory of accident (retrograde amnesia? advice from counsel?). Suppose NTSB will, at some point, tell us if the throttle advanced for some defect or the engineer adjusting the wrong way.
 
I repeat, very sad.


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« Reply #2 on: Oct 8th, 2016, 8:40am »
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Your writer can't quite figure this one. So, a prudent approach to let NTSB do its work. AFAIK, it could have been a random "wild card" with  
Engineer and a sudden onset medical issue?
 
It would have been nice if the "nervous and jerky, hyper kinetic" riders would stay in their seats until train comes to a complete stop?
Bothersome report the Train did the run with many passengers otherwise standing in the aisles. (IMHO, bad practice)
 
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 9th, 2016, 10:01pm »
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Don't know anything other than what is published.  That is, no inside knowledge, and would keep my mouth shut about it if I did.  
 
I would believe under 20 mph, maybe 10 mph, and maybe even less.  Remember, you have a lot of mass.
 
Having everybody sit down on a commuter train is usually impractical.  Given that they are  essentially one way services, anything about an average loading of around 50% usually means that there are standees coming into the terminal.  As far as getting up and moving toward the door as you are coming in to the terminal, that is the norm.  In fact, in going out, as the train is approaching your stop you are expected to be at or heading toward the door when the train is approaching the stop.


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« Reply #4 on: Oct 13th, 2016, 3:52pm »
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on Oct 9th, 2016, 10:01pm, George_Harris wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Don't know anything other than what is published.  That is, no inside knowledge, and would keep my mouth shut about it if I did.  
 
I would believe under 20 mph, maybe 10 mph, and maybe even less.  Remember, you have a lot of mass.
 
Having everybody sit down on a commuter train is usually impractical.  Given that they are  essentially one way services, anything about an average loading of around 50% usually means that there are standees coming into the terminal.  As far as getting up and moving toward the door as you are coming in to the terminal, that is the norm.  In fact, in going out, as the train is approaching your stop you are expected to be at or heading toward the door when the train is approaching the stop.

 
That (getting up and ready to leave) may be expected. I don't do it - I am crippled up and I just sit there until the train (or airplane, if I HAVE get on one of them) has stopped and people are getting off and then get up and off myself. Obviously, if somebody yells "Fire in the aircraft" (that happened one time when I was on a helicopter), I get up and head out and do not wait upon my going...


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