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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #80 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 10:33am »
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Vern/All:
 
There are several photos of interest on this page showcasing vintage signals of many types; this fine gentleman has QUITE a collection, as you will see here!
 
This lucky fellow even owns an old SIRT CPL!!
 
DANG!!
 
Again, as we've stated earlier, the study of historic signals is indeed a fascinating topic unto itself.....
 
"SM"
 
http://www.rrsignalpix.com/zcollection.html


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #81 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 12:15pm »
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"INNER WORKINGS" on the B&O.....
 
http://www.navpooh.com/sigpics2.html


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #82 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 2:21pm »
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Just came across another good page on B&O CPL's (aspects given according to 1941 B&O rulebook).....
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http://mtnsub.org/features/cpl.html


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #83 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 3:26pm »
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on Dec 12th, 2011, 2:21pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Just came across another good page on B&O CPL's (aspects given according to 1941 B&O rulebook).....
http://mtnsub.org/features/cpl.html

SM -  
 
All vaguely somehow tied to Astrology? Rule 291. Moon is in the Seventh House... Lunar White Ascendant... Home Signal in Mars...?
 
Rule 283. Home Signal in Venus... Lunar White Descendant?
 
.......................Vern..................


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #84 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 3:52pm »
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on Dec 12th, 2011, 3:26pm, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)

SM -  
 
All vaguely somehow tied to Astrology? Rule 291. Moon is in the Seventh House... Lunar White Ascendant... Home Signal in Mars...?
 
Rule 283. Home Signal in Venus... Lunar White Descendant?
 
.......................Vern..................

 
Vern.....
 
As I could not, for the life of me, get "in sync" with "The Age Of Aquarius" when it was dawning, what makes you think that I can do so now, over 40 years later?
 
Our good friend Mr. Harris indeed made a profound statement:
 
Signalling CAN indeed border on witchcraft!<G>
 
"SM"


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Re: PRR position lights today
 
« Reply #85 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 5:12pm »
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A comment on Alton Route and CPL's.
 
The GM&O was somewhat light on signals systemwide.  Remmeber, at the time of their takeover of the Alton, the management was still based on the realities of the GM&N.  What were they?  How to eke out a living from a basic territory that was the poorest side of the poorest state in the Union.  They got really good at it.  They were primarily a timetable and train order railroad with no more than a couple of trains a day each way on any of theri lines.  When they took over the M&O with its basic Southern Railway heritage it may have had a little more traffic, but was financially worse off.  With it they got what was their first piece of signaled teritory, the piece between just south of Jackson Tennessee and just north of Corinth Mississippi where the Illinois Central had traffic rights.  About the only other non-Alton piece was a relatively short distance in heavy grade territory southern Illinois where CTC was installed so that trains would not have to stop and throw switches.
 
Thus when they took over the Alton with its B&O heritage that gave them far more territory controlled by signals than they had prior to that time.  Hence, they had no reason to make any changes in the Alton for the sake of compatibility.  Nor did they wish to spend any money simply for the sake of cmopatibility to change anything else, as their was no connection between any of their signaled segments, nor any overlap in operating segments between these various signaled segments.  Thus, B&O CPL's lasted into the ICRR takeover, which in retrospect was the worst thing that could have happened to the GM&O, as it was for all prectical purposes their death.


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #86 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 7:03pm »
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George:
 
TRULY fascinating historical trivia, sir, and THANK YOU for sharing!
 
IMHO, there is so much of great interest when delving into railroad histories, where one road is taking over a portion of another, or a similiar scenerio.
 
Equipment, signalling, etc certainly all make for some great reading!
 
Again, appreciate your sharing this with us!
 
"SM"


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #87 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 7:22pm »
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Classic "after dark" photo of N&W CPL's (Columbus, Ohio)......
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john_leopard/4889025773/


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« Reply #88 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 7:35pm »
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All:
 
Just was doing a little more on-line research, and came across the following......
 
"......the N&W also adopted the PRR type of amber PL's, as the PRR had a 33% share in the N&W at that time. After the P-C merger, the former all-amber PL's were modified with twin red lenses in the upper horizontal position, to ensure recognition of 'STOP' signals at interlockings......."
 
"......the N&W also modified its all-amber PL's to include color during the 1950's......"
 
"SM"


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #89 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 7:46pm »
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Excellent, detailed page (w/links) on CSX signal rules, depicting aspects of former PRR/C&O signals.....
 
http://www.oocities.org/mcivory2000/CSX_Signal_Rules.html


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #90 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 10:03pm »
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A truly nostalgic glimpse of the old VIRGINIAN (Kumiss, WV); note 5th comment down on this page....
 
http://www.flyerguide.net/viewphoto.php?id=383265


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« Reply #91 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 10:13pm »
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NKP/WABASH/IC crossing at Gibson, Illinois (1987).......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp-gibson-twr-m.jpg


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« Reply #92 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 10:49pm »
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No details given for this 1975 photo taken at Newark, NJ; clearly, this is the aftermath of an accident.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc-wa5sig-kga.jpg


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #93 on: Dec 13th, 2011, 1:35am »
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The first photo in the slideshow is of interest.....
 
http://www.abandonedrails.com/Sulphur_Springs_to_New_Castle


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« Reply #94 on: Dec 13th, 2011, 8:44am »
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George - SM - All -  
 
G M & O? A long while back, local Library had an excellent History on the shelves. Did a thorough reading of it. The line  
long a bold idea and concept of (IIRC) Taggart, who made it all happen. Yes, clearly recall much of the line started from  
some small carriers, for which there was little reason to expect much traffic and revenue...
 
M & O? Odd items I picked up, in my brief tenure with S R S, which kept records on much ancient history and archives  
in its Washington Offices basement? Examples of M & O, and Southern Railroad In Mississippi letterheads. It is still  
around here somewhere, IIRC...
 
...........................Vern...................
 


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #95 on: Dec 13th, 2011, 9:20am »
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Vern........
 
Recall our discussion over this past weekend, regarding 1956 PRR rulebook in my archives (effective 10/28/56)?
 
In the course of my research, I was lucky enough to come across the same issue rulebook "on line".
 
As I had mentioned during our earlier phone communication, there is a number of illustrations regarding PL's, and other interesting subject matter.....
 
"SM"
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr-bor.html


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #96 on: Dec 14th, 2011, 12:24am »
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1925 PRR Book of Rules.
 
Scroll down page for numerous illustrations regarding both PL's and semaphores.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr-bor25.html


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« Reply #97 on: Dec 14th, 2011, 12:00pm »
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PRR/LIRR ATC & CAB SIGNAL DATA (1938-1961)
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr-cab.gif


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« Reply #98 on: Dec 14th, 2011, 3:38pm »
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PRR "pedestal" PL's......
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonroma/2386717367/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonroma/2388395091/


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« Reply #99 on: Dec 15th, 2011, 2:02am »
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Vanishing sentinals of another era are these ex-B&O CPL's at Carroll (Baltimore), MD, 2010.....
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonroma/4864652573/


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