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Charlie_O
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« on: Jun 15th, 2003, 1:28am »
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Here's an odd little signal near my local Septa (formerly Reading) station crossing.  As you can see from the pic, it still performs a valuable function.  
 
Anyone know an approx age or manufacturer on this one?


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« Reply #1 on: Jun 15th, 2003, 5:27am »
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Charlie -
 
Don't know who made your signal, or when, but there's a relatively new one on Basin Street in Allentown, at the intersection where Auburn (origin of the "Burn" in CP Burn) Street ducks down and crosses the tracks. It was put up about two years ago when traffic lights were (finally!) installed. I think the purpose is to encourage would-be right-turners to go straight ahead and use the Susquehanna Street bridge, rather than back things up waiting for slow-moving or stopped trains.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 15th, 2003, 5:16pm »
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NJT's Pascack Valley Line is lined with these through Hackensack NJ.

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« Reply #3 on: Aug 6th, 2003, 11:32am »
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I've seen a few here in  Md., on the WM most notably E of Gettysburg PA. (Rt 30), a few other places also.  Was one in Union Bridge Md. (WM-MMID) which might no longer exist.

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« Reply #4 on: Aug 6th, 2003, 12:22pm »
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There probably made by US&S, but I'm just guessing.

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« Reply #5 on: Aug 25th, 2003, 10:18pm »
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The basic purpose for this contraption is to keep drivers approaching on roadways parallel to the right-of-way from trying to turn right onto the grade crossing when the gates are down. Sort of a 90 degree crossing protection with flashing lights and a lighted "no right turn" sign.  These are located up and down SEPTA's ex-Reading commuter lines in Southeast Pa. This one happens to be on the R6 Norristown Line (somewhere between Manayunk and Conshohocken, I think).
 
 
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 25th, 2003, 10:29pm »
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on Aug 25th, 2003, 10:18pm, jrsd80mac wrote:       (Click here for original message)
This one happens to be on the R6 Norristown Line (somewhere between Manayunk and Conshohocken, I think).

 
Very close.  East Falls.
 


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« Reply #7 on: Oct 5th, 2003, 1:43pm »
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At least one on Long Island, at Malverne...

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« Reply #8 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 2:29pm »
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There is one of these located in Fostoria, OH near the B&O Station where the NS and CSX cross, but it says No Turn for both the right and left directions .  The station's parking lot is between the two lines, and when there is a train on the NS, the no right turn signal lights up, and when a train passes by on the CSX, the no left turn signal lights up.  A really neat signal if you ask me.  
 
You can see it in this photo right between the pick up truck and the locomotives.  The bottom light is the flashing red, and the next two upper lights are the right/left turn signals.


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« Reply #9 on: Feb 10th, 2004, 6:36pm »
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One in Warminster off of Street Road. Only flashes for the NH&I.

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« Reply #10 on: May 23rd, 2004, 10:13pm »
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Yup....All thru Belleville NJ, on the newark industrial track

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« Reply #11 on: Sep 30th, 2004, 1:20am »
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There's several of them along the ex-Reading Bethlehem branch (Septa R5 & beyond)...Gywnyd, Lansdale and Perkasie that I recall. The ones at Coopersburg and Telford  were knocked down about 5 years ago. There also used to be a couple along the Newtown Branch at Huntingdon Valley and Churchville but they're long gone with just about everything else along that route. There's also still one at Philmont along the R3. A slight variation exists at a couple crossings that have traffic lights nearby with signs on the traffic poles displaying  "No Right Turn" or a right turn arrow with a red bar across it when the railroad crossing is activated. One example of this is at Jenkintown and EdgeHill Roads by the Ardsley train station on the R2. I'll try to get a picture.

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« Reply #12 on: Dec 31st, 2004, 11:35pm »
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The one down at perkasie still survives !!! Its there ! saw it in a railpace 2 months ago.
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« Reply #13 on: Jan 1st, 2005, 1:42pm »
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There are a few of these signs located along the R&N especially in the Tamaqua Area. There are quite a few different varieties of them around here though. There are a few that flash red, yellow, and white. Some also say "No Left Turn" and "No Right Turn." These signs seem to be popular with the RDG as I have noticed them in other places also.
 
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« Reply #14 on: Jan 3rd, 2005, 5:18am »
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These things used to be a standard in the AREA Manual chapter on Railway Highway Crossings for use on roads paralleling a railroad at the point of intersection with a road crossing the railroad.   That part was removed a few years ago and replaced with a reference to the Uniform Manual of Traffic Control Devices, which does not show these things in its latest version.    
 
There used to be, and maybe still is, since it has been several years since I have dirven it, a whole series of these things along Riverside Drive in Memphis, Tennessee where it paralleled the IC main line at the foot of the Mississippi River bluff.  
 
There were also "No Left Turn" lighted signs hanging from the same overhead wire that held the traffic lights at these intersections.  When a train approached, the traffic lights flashed yellow for Riverside Drive, red for the intersecting streets, and the gates come down, and these lighted "No Right Turn" and "No Left Turn" signs started flashing.


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« Reply #15 on: Apr 14th, 2005, 3:50pm »
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I've seen standard traffic lights coordinated with signals, too.  Here are two examples in the area of Rochester, NY:
 
1.  The Pixley Road crossing has a side street that parallels the CSX tracks.  The traffic light changes to red in advance of the actual crossing gate.
 
2.  The Brighton-Henriatta Townline Road has a crossing for the CSX West Shore Bypass and LAL mainline near the intersection of Jefferson Rd.  There are traffic lights at the crossing.  If a sensor detects that traffic is "backed up" then the traffic light at the crossing turns red so vehicles won't stop on the tracks.  This happens regardless of whether a train is coming or not.


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There are a couple of these in Basset, Virginia on the Norfolk Southern Winston-Salem District.  They protect crossings going into the Bassett Furniture Plant.
 
Speaking of odd signals:


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« Reply #17 on: Apr 22nd, 2005, 1:02am »
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on Apr 14th, 2005, 3:50pm, Matthew_Langworthy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I've seen standard traffic lights coordinated with signals, too.  Here are two examples in the area of Rochester, NY:
 
1.  The Pixley Road crossing has a side street that parallels the CSX tracks.  The traffic light changes to red in adavance of the actual crossing gate.
 
2.  The Brighton-Henriatta Townline Road has a crossing for the CSX West Shore Bypass and LAL mainline near the intersection of Jefferson Rd.  There are traffic lights at the crossing.  If a sensor detects that traffic is "backed up" then the traffic light at the crossing turns red so vehicles won't stop on the tracks.  This happens regardless of whether a train is coming or not.

That #2 crossing is right next to RIT/NTID.  Is that light new because I never noticed it in previous visits there.
 
How about the crossing on W. Henrietta.  There is a traffic light that changes when the train approaches.  There is also a 2 position traffic light for the train at each direction.  I should have taken pictures of it when I was there a few weeks ago (which I meant to do).


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on Apr 21st, 2005, 5:31pm, ATF1224 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Speaking of odd signals:

 
Note the sign, "LIGHT OUT INDICATES APPROACHING TRAIN"
 
That is what you call the fail-safe method.  If a bulb burns out, then you look for a train.  
 
I have a feeling it would be hard to find this thing in the Uniform Manual of Traffic Control Devices.
 
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on Apr 21st, 2005, 5:31pm, ATF1224 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
There are a couple of these in Basset, Virginia on the Norfolk Southern Winston-Salem District.  They protect crossings going into the Bassett Furniture Plant.
 
Speaking of odd signals:

 
Now we know what they did with all the retired position light signals. If you look closely, the signal lights are exactly what was used in PRR/N&W PL's.


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