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« on: Nov 27th, 2006, 11:52am »
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 A quick introduction, my name is Lee Turner and I have been a modeler basicaly all my life. I started out with Lionel and moved on to HO and then O scale two rail about twenty years ago. I have also done custom painting and ran a small resin kit business. In posting photos of my Lehigh Valley models on the LV board I have gotten a lot of requests to share some of my weatheing techniques and after talking to Tom, our talented moderator, I thought I would share some of what I have learned over the years.
   
   The first step is always research, you can't duplicate the prototype if you don't know how it looked! There are so many good color books on railroading that unless you model something really obscure you probably already have a library of color books on your protoytype. There are also many titles on freight cars,cabooses and maintainance of way. If you don't have a book the internet is a valuable resource for color photos.
   
   Once you pick a prototype to model study your research materiel closely, looking at how the environment has faded paint, deposited soot on roofs and oil spills on engines and lading spillage on cars. Then you will have an idea of what you are trying to reproduce on your scale model.  
 
   For my weathering techniques I use all water based acrylic paints such as polly-S
Tamiya, Testors Model Master Acryl and even cheap craft store paints. This will result in weathering that is durable enough to sustain handling but can be removed with household cleaners such as Formula 409 and Fantastik if you don't like the results.
 
   The three major techniques that I use are:
Dry brushing where you take an old stiff bristled brush, dip it in the paint and wipe off almost all the paint on a paper towel or rag. The brush tip is lightly used to highlight details using light colors on a dark base and dark colors on a light base color. You want just a hint of color to be transfered to model. Next up, washes, a wash is a very thin and transparent mix of paint and thinner. With acrylics you can use rubbing alcohol, denatured alcohol and I have even used washer solvent or windex. Just make sure that it has low surface tension so that it will flow into cracks and crevasses and that it will be compatible with the paint you are using. If the paint is incompatable with the thinner the pigment will clump together instead of being evenly distributed in the wash. Lastly is airbrush weathering using thin colors to highlight and add dust and grime. I will also show you how to use quick and easy card masks for special effects.
 
   Even well maintained equipment can benefit from some subtle weathering to add realism, it doesn't have to be a grimy mess. Go easy at first, practice on older equipment or scrap shells till you become comfortable with the tecniques and materiels. I'm going to start by showing some model photos and quick tips and moving on to step by step tutorials for some RTR freight cars.


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« Reply #1 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 11:56am »
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 Here is good example of using a black wash to simulate fuel spills on locomotives, I use india ink thinned with rubbing alcohol because the ink will leave a very subtle sheen to to spill.

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 Here are some good drybrushing brushes, worn out and stiff bristled

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« Reply #3 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 12:00pm »
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 Diesel louvers tend to collect a lot of dust and grime, this is a good spot for drybrushing!

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  Chalk marks on freight cars can be simulated with a very sharp tip on an artists white pencil. To simulate older chalk markings rub with a fingertip and apply fresh chalk markings over or around the old markings. Study prototype photos for ideas.

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« Reply #5 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 12:14pm »
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 This is what I mean by being subtle, this car appears fairly clean but when you look close you can see the mud trails left on the car end  from the car wheels of adjacent cars as well as faint highlights of panel lines and seams

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« Reply #6 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 12:54pm »
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Hey Lee…What great information. I try to keep some ‘junker’ freight cars at the store to give to customers that are interested in experimenting with various weathering techniques. They always bring the pieces back to me for a critique and are always amazed at what they can accomplish.
 
As a former science teacher, I always like to experiment. My next trials will involve the use of some of that ‘cake’ form of make up as the range of colors is tremendous. Also an artist’s product called Craypas which is a cross between a crayon and a pastel. These also come in a wide range of colors. The make up technique may take a bit since I’ll have to wait till one of my daughters or my wife will go to the store with me to purchase the material. I can’t seem to do this on my own.
 
I know that not only I, but others as well, are looking forward to reading more about your techniques and seeing more of those great, illustrative photos…Tom  


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« Reply #7 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 3:09pm »
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 Now we're going to do a RTR box car step by step. Our starting point is a Intermountain O scale box car with NYC markings. Before any painting it is a good idea to wash and dry the piece for good adhesion of the paint and no dust specks, cat hair etc.

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« Reply #8 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 3:25pm »
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  The first step is to paint the underframe. Remove the trucks and pop the wheel sets out of the trucks, use small squares of masking tape to cover the inside of the journals to keep paint out, also either brush paint the wheel face and backs or leave unpainted, DO NOT paint wheel treads. Mix up a medium brown gray for your airbrush, a good starting point is 1/2 Tamiya hull red and 1/2 Tamiya nuetral gray. Since the car is getting weathered I don't bother to mask the body but instead use a file card as shown to block the paint spray, a little overspray on the car won't matter as it will become part of the weathering

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« Reply #9 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 3:30pm »
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Paint the trucks with the same mixture, don't get paint in the journals, see the tape squares covering them. I use a paintbrush handle through the bolster to hold the truck while painting.

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« Reply #10 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 3:36pm »
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  Dry-brush the truck sideframes with a medium brown like light earth, flat earth etc. this will really make the detail pop out on these, you can also drybrush some high lights on the underframe if you wish. Now the trucks can be reassembled and put back on the car to hold the car while finishing or do like I do and use an old pair of "shop trucks".

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  Here's how to simulate peeling paint on a galvanized freight car roof. Freight car roofs were usualy made of galvanized steel which did not hold paint well. Certain places like the roof ribs and along the edges of the raised panels would hold paint longer. Use a flat aluminum paint and randomly paint splotches trying to keep them irregular as shown.

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« Reply #12 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 3:51pm »
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  The wood roof walk is next and recieves a "wood" color, in this case deck tan, after that has dried give it a black wash to darken and bring out the detail.

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 This is what the roofwalk should look like when done. Note that the roof itself is to bright and shiny.

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To dull the roof down use a thinned mixture of the paint used on the underframe. Mask off the roofwalk and take a index card and cut a slot in it as shown. Spray though the slot and highlight the roof ribs and seams (see the paint on the taped up roof walk). Lightly spray the entire roof to dull to your satisfaction.

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Using the same technique with the index card highlight the rivet seams. Using the edge of the card as a mask spray the door, the eaves, sills and ends.

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 If it looks to overdone you can remove some of the weathering. I use a small wad of paper towel soaked in Fantastik to clean any excess. Just don't make it so wet that it runs all over.

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 Hey wer'e on the home stretch! Do a little doodling with you white artists pencil for chalk marks, a very light coating of "dust". When your satisfied with the results a light spray of dull coat or flat finish. See I even put herbie on the side!  Also note that I painted out some of the dimensional data with a brighter red and restenciled with scraps from dry transfer sheets, I also restenciled the reweigh date to the right of the dimensional data.

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  And here she is, the finished product. Looks a whole lot better than when we started.

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« Reply #19 on: Nov 27th, 2006, 4:47pm »
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What a great idea for chalk markings! I've been looking all over for chalk marking decals...forget it now! Thanks!!  

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