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« on: Nov 18th, 2016, 4:49am »
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The Drewry Car Co exported railcars to France in 1914 initially through S.A. Helwig.
S.A.  Helwig badged the railcars with a plate: "Automobiles Drewry - Societe Anonyme Helwig - Paris"
One of theses plates has turned up in a bombed out factory (bombed in WW2) in Russia.
My question is: did France and Russia have the same railway guage/tracks? That is to say: could the Railcar have been driven from France to Russia at some time between 1914 and '45 and been abandoned there?


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« Reply #1 on: Nov 18th, 2016, 10:30am »
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Not same gauge, however, wheelsets could have been changed, or even wheels moved on the axles.  I would consider change outs of the wheelsets most likely.  (Wheelsets are called "bogies" in many places, but "trucks" in North America.
 
Western Europe track gauge is 1435 mm = 56.5" = 4'-8 1/2"  This is commonly called standard gauge and is used in many other parts of the world, including North America and China.
Russian track gauge is 1520 mm, commonly called 5 feet, but 5 feet = 60" = 1524 mm.
"Russian" track gauge is also used in all the parts of the former Soviet Union plus Poland, Finland, and Mongolia.
There are other gauges used in quite a few places.
 
Considering the horrendous levels of destruction in France, Russia, and all locations in between during WW2, "abandoned" is probably not the right word for what happened to the car.
 
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Thank you for the quick response.
The plate was found in a bombed out factory close to the murder site of the Romanovs.  
Likelihood is that it is NOT the car that carried them to their deaths!
Probably sold some time to the Russians as spare parts for the rail-cars or chassis that had been exported to Russia by the Drewry Car Co in 1917.


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