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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« on: Nov 30th, 2012, 12:31am »
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All:
 
How many recall the famous LIONEL aquarium car?
 
Sometimes, watching one of these now-classic cars roll down the tinplate main, you might wonder to yourself:
 
"Did live fish ever travel in special rail cars?"
 
Some very interesting rail history reading here.....enjoy!
 
"H.F.M."
 
http://www.arkansasstripers.com/fish-cars-train.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #1 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 12:34am »
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"BADGER #2" the last surviving fish car.
 
Looking more like a posh conveyance of the Lucius Beebe era, this priceless car is indeed one of the rarest of all rail cars, and, indeed, is the last surviving example.......
 
http://midcontinent.org/restorations/badger2.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #2 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 12:43am »
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Gallery of historic photos of "BADGER #2".
 
QUITE a elegant car, considering its humble use!
 
http://midcontinent.org/restorations/badger2_dnr/index.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #3 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 12:45am »
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"Business As Usual"........
 
http://midcontinent.org/restorations/badger2_dnr/pages/028.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #4 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 2:03am »
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An excellent page on the D.C. BOOTH fish cars........
 
http://www.fws.gov/dcbooth/fishcars.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #5 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 11:11am »
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Also of interest (photo gallery included)......
 
http://www.dcboothfishhatchery.org/visitor-information/view/the_railcar


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TAB
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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #6 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 1:12pm »
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......a while back, during one of my internet searches for prototype data, I came across a  brief reference for this car, to which I only gave a passing glance as there was not much relevance to the information I sought.  
 
But now from a different perspective, one with an interest, not just in modeling but also in rail history and with a focus on the artistry and craftsmanship invested in the construction of passenger equipment, I find the information presented here to be of great interest.  
 
The second post with the link to the chronology of the car's restoration is just phenomenal and illustrates what can be done by individuals who truly value the incredible contribution that the railroads made to this countries development and prosperity. What a gem they created!
 
And also....sincerest thanks to you Mr. Malone, for digging out this information and posting it here for all of us to see. Once again, as many times in the past, you've unselfishly shared some valuable and interesting information for those of us that don't have the time, skill or patience to do the type of research at which you obviously excel....Tom


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #7 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 2:06pm »
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Tom:
 
MANY (humble!) THANKS for your compliments and kind words; all I can say is, that, bieng a die-hard, card-carrying insomniac indeed helps QUITE a bit in executing "in-depth research"!
 
Hey, I try!
 
I totally agree.....this rare car is indeed a stellar example of the fine craftsmanship that once went into the most humble of rail cars........without a doubt, Mr. Beebe and Mr. Clegg indeed would have been right at home, riding aboard this fine vehicle!
 
Once again, we see just how diverse American railroads were, back in the day.
 
And to think that this topic all came about from having late-night thoughts on LIONEL's famed aquarium car.......(!!)
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #8 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 5:56pm »
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See also:
 
http://www.arkansasstripers.com/images/fish-cars.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #9 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 7:59pm »
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LIONEL equipment.........
 
http://www.grzyboskitrains.com/category221.aspx


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Re: A "Fishy" Railroad Tale......
 
« Reply #10 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 10:56pm »
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Harry & Others:
 
The Badger is not the only fish car still in existence.  May I suggest the Monticello Railway Museum in Monticello, Illinois?
 
I got this from their website:
 
Nautilus Aquarium/Pass J. G. Shedd Aquarium Thrall 1957
 
The note that accompanies this entry on their equipment roster:
Former C & EI No. 304 "Turkey Run"/fish transport  
 
The Shedd Aquarium is located on Lake Shore Drive in Chicago.  
 
Their website is: http://www.mrym.org/roster.html
 
Alan
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 30th, 2012, 11:29pm »
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Alan:
 
Thanks!
 
Great to know that another one of these unique vehicles is still with us!
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 1st, 2012, 12:16am »
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More info on the "NAUTILUS".......
 
http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/archive/index.php/t-99666.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 1st, 2012, 12:19am »
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A view of the car.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/steamtown/jgsa-naut-adc.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 2nd, 2012, 8:17pm »
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Another way fish (and seafood) swam along the rails......
 
http://www.railgiants.org/ice-cooled.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #15 on: Dec 2nd, 2012, 8:22pm »
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$475,000 grant for restoration of historic fish car "BADGER #2"; photos, facts, etc.......
 
http://www.midcontinent.org/news/news14.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 3rd, 2012, 3:44pm »
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All:
 
1/96 issue of CLASSIC TOY TRAINS features an excellent illustrated article:
 
"THE BIG ONE THAT DIDN'T GET AWAY: REELING IN THE STORY BEHIND LIONEL's FISH CAR"
 
The article states that one of the sources for LIonel's aquarium car were the cars operated by the NYC; this operation was virtually unknown, away from the greater NYC area.
 
Though no photos (at the time) had surfaced, the cars resembled conventional box cars; they were equipped with passenger trucks, steam heat, and signal lines, enabling them to be used in passenger trains, like express cars.
 
These cars operated between the Catskills and New York City, and the live fish delivered to kosher markets on the Lower East Side, and other parts of the city.
 
The cars were equipped with freshwater tanks, and a cot for an attendant, who was on hand to make sure that the water circulated and remained at the proper temerature........
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 3rd, 2012, 4:49pm »
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Some further info on the "NAUTILUS 2":
 
The car was originally built by PULLMAN in 1946, as a coach; in 1952, the C&EI reconfigured the car into a lunch counter/lounge.
 
By 1957, the car was reconfigured (once again) for Shedd's Aquarium, by the Thrall Car Mfg. Company of Chicago.
 
The car was now equipped with 16 portable, 190 gallon cypress holding tanks, and 20 welded-steel tanks, each with a capacity of 30 gallons.
 
The car could carry between 2,000 and 3,000 live fish on any given trip.
 
Because the fish needed regular attention, a crew of six could also be accomodated, with a built-in galley and sleeping quarters.
 
Collecting the fish (this was a bi-coastal operation), the tanks were transferred from the railcar to a waiting barge; later, they would be loaded back aboard the railcar.
 
Then the car was coupled to the next passenger train bound for Chicago.
 
At Chicago, the car was deposited on a siding near the aquarium, which then dispatched trucks to carry the fish to the aquarium proper.
 
A fascinating, quite forgotten aspect of American railroading......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 5th, 2013, 10:37pm »
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All:
 
Just imagine a "fish car" bearing a bold red and white herald, reading:
 
"WHALE-WAY EXPRESS".......
 
"H.F.M."


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TAB
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 6th, 2013, 6:47pm »
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......groan

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