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Railroad Legacy Questions - By Grey_Beard on 05/25/06 at 16:00:40 - 'Railroad_Legacy.jpg' 94 KB
They call it The Blue House.  It's been in my cousin's family 107 years.  It is a legacy of railroads that no longer pass that way.  I'll tell you what I know about it, and maybe some railfan experts can help me fill in the blanks.
 
The original house, which was much smaller than the current place, was one of a row of "dog trot" houses adjacent to a saw mill.  Family lore has it that the saw mill made trestle timbers for the New Orleans & Pacific railroad which was driving a line through the hilly country south of Shreveport.
 
The house is in Pelican, Louisiana which is so tiny that it isn't shown on most maps.  The records of DeSoto Parish indicate the town was established in 1889 on the site of the "old saw mill".  That's it.  There's no name or anything.  It's just the old saw mill.
 
The current house has an unusually large dining room.  It's where the lady of the house served meals to passengers of the Texas & Pacific railroad.  That went on from the 1880s until sometime in the early 20th century.  At some point, nobody knows when, the T&P moved its mainline miles away to the banks of the Red River where the land is a lot flatter.
 
My biggest problem is that I have not yet found evidence that a "New Orleans & Pacific" railroad ever existed.  I have found names somewhat similar, but they are not close enough to NO&P to satisfy me that it's the right one.
 
The old saw mill is my other mystery.  When was it built?  For sure it was there in the 1880s, but it could be far older.  They were building dog trot houses in Louisiana as early as 1800.  That gives a pretty large gap in time as to how old the house might be.
 
Also, when did the T&P move out of Pelican?
 
Anyway, if anybody here could provide more information, I sure would appreciate it.

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Re: Pennsy K4s, 1361......Problems? - By Alco C-628 on 01/22/06 at 20:48:50 - 'clearfieldprr.jpg' 15 KB
Actually here is an answer to both problems, The rail fans and the driving it back!
 
Tow it back with a diesel in the Dark and don't let anyone know when you're going to do it!!  
 
Bam! it just all of a sudden appears in Altoona without explaination one fine morning!! Might not impress too many railfans but it would get the job done!!

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Re: Pennsy K4s, 1361......Problems? - By Alco C-628 on 01/20/06 at 16:20:21 - 'pcprr1361.jpg' 75 KB
Chessie you have valid points, VERy valid points, but why can't NS just come out and explain that instead of giving a run around!
 
P.S my mother was with me at the Hobby shop because we were looking for something for my dad and she over heard our conversation and asked why they could not "bring it back on a Heavy Flatcar?" I replied "Do you know how much that beast weighs?"

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Pennsy K4s, 1361......Problems? - By Alco C-628 on 01/12/06 at 20:22:58 - 'rmm91652_winslow.jpg' 66 KB
I was at the Altoona railroaders Museum  and they have had 1361 out for restoration for about 12 years, they have finally finished it and it was to return to Altoona in the Spring to a new roundhouse they ar ebuilding to store and display their rolling stock.
 
Here's the rub according to a man i talked to at Gene's Trains and Hobby shop in Duncansville, PA. From the Altoona Model Railroad club.
 
Every time they try to set it up with Norfolk Southern to bring it home they come up with excuses for not doing it!
 
When it left it left on Conrails terms and they were amiable and helpful, but Norfolk Southern is claiming all kinds of stuff about liability!
 
They first claimed their engineer has to drive it back from Allentown, to which i'm thinking yeah i bet Norfolk Southern has Steam trained engineers and firemen by the dozens!  
 
Then another one they stated was "What if it wrecks?" To this i'm thinking 'Don't they maintain their lines?"
 
Then it was and this one the one i thought was the dumbest excuse Norfolk Southern used...."Our rails cannot take the weight the old steam engine weighs!"
To this one i'm like "They're kidding right?" I mean rails are probably the best quality they have ever been in the history of railroading, they are every bit as heavy as they have always been and they are welded now instead of bolted together and these Yo-Yo's are claiming this lone engine and tender will break their rails or "Eat them up!"
 
So by this time i'm thinking is this guy for real that's telling me this? It turns out upon checking with other people it is!
 
It's not like the museum wants to bring it back pulling the "Broadway Limited" behind it!! It's just the Engine and tender!!
 
Politics sucks and i think it is just Norfolk Southern would just rather not be bothered to let it come back!! I mean seriously the Southern Pacific Challenger is Huige and it doesn't destroy rails!!

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Re: O-4-0T & P&LE Bobber walk-arounds - By 765_fan on 10/25/05 at 17:55:43 - 'PA210022.jpg' 78 KB
Speaking 0-4-0T's,here's one at the Tinly Park Metra Station.Cute littel thing,isn't it?

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Re: Former railroad lift bridge to be demolished - By toddsyr on 06/23/05 at 03:36:43 - 'CR_SWING_BRIDGE_OPEN_CHARLOTTE_NY_1997.jpg' 61 KB
Sad to hear yet another artifact is going by the wayside. The swing bridge in Charlotte, NY may face a similar fate. A wooden swing bridge was originally located there, built by the Rome Watertown & Ogdensburg RR on the Hojack Line. This burned in 1905 and was replaced with a steel structure. This was used as recently as Conrail. This portion of track is now unused, and the nearby boater citizens would like the bridge removed. It remains in the open position, but they want even more room for larger craft. They also claim it is a hazard to boaters. Others would like to see the swing bridge remain, including myself. Lost history is one thing, thrown away is another. Photo courtesy LINK URL

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Re: Frostburg, MD Tragedy - By Dan on 06/15/05 at 16:18:17 - 'FrostburgTrainDepot16APR05003.jpg' 53 KB
I just saw those cars back in April.
I didn't think too get pics plus it was too dark.  
Here's the only pic of the cars I have.

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Reading Company Technical & Historical Society - By spikemic on 05/09/05 at 20:17:01 - '0408957-R1-035-16.jpg' 69 KB
LINK URL  
 
the group does many things but one thing thats become important is getting the equipment restored and running and also work on our future museum site property. We seem to be very shorthanded for these tasks and would love new members to join and help. Specific skilled people always a plus, but theres probably alot of things that anyone can do.  
 
There is usually a work session on the museum site in Hamburg at least once a month and theres usually someone/a group working on equipment most every weekend in Leesport or elsewhere. We are also planning to run some trips this year...  
 
Check out the website, theres info there... or theres a few members on here, like myself that might be able to answer questions.  
 
Help learn and preserve history firsthand, up close and personal.....  


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Re: PA Restoration - By Coffee on 03/20/05 at 21:22:18 - 'FA1_3201_Edentro_16jun1995.jpg' 147 KB
The FA.

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Re: PA Restoration - By Coffee on 03/20/05 at 21:21:22 - 'PA2_602_sumare_zago_abril1995.jpg' 135 KB
These are photos of one of the PA's and a FA, circa 1995 that are in Brazil. With permission of the one who took the shots, he provides these details.
 
Quote:
The only two PA-2´s in Brazil are in São Paulo state. One is at Jundiaí Railroad Museum, and the other belongs to a priveted company in Campinas, SP. In fact, I´ve heard this one was scrapped this year, but I´m not sure.
The last FA in Brazil belongs to Engenho de Dentro Railroad Museum, in Rio de Janeiro. But the museum will be destroyed to give place to a olimpic stadium (believe if you want!!).
He will do his best to find more recent shots of the PA's.
 


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Re: Roadbed that carried Lincoln to Gettysburg une - By coal_cracker on 02/15/05 at 16:39:25 - 'gburgwmstation.jpg' 60 KB
The roadbed was unearthed at the 1858 Western Maryland Station on Carlisle Street, which is where Honest Abe detrained.  The WM's Dutch Line ran through Gburg past this station.  The Reading also ran a line to Gburg from Mt. Holly Springs (where it connected to the Lurgan branch).  Pioneer uses the Reading line, and passengers board at the old Rdg. station on Washington St, about 2 blocks west of the WM station.
The WM station (now almost universally known in town as the "Lincoln Train Station"), pictured here, is undergoing a $2 million restoration (according to WGAL-TV) and is scheduled to be re-dedicated on Remembrance Day (Nov. 19th), when there is usually a Lincoln conference in town and a wreath-laying at the National Cemetery.  
Anyway, I think the tracks and roadbed are in good hands, b/c Gburg is very protective of its history, and there's alot of local talent in conservation of historic artifacts and the like.  So I imagine these tracks will become a prominent part of the station in time.
 
Josh

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Re: Ring My Bell! - By Coffee on 02/04/05 at 08:40:22 - 'bell3.jpg' 108 KB
One more.

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Re: Ring My Bell! - By Coffee on 02/04/05 at 08:39:22 - 'bell.jpg' 125 KB
another shot

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Ring My Bell! - By Coffee on 02/04/05 at 08:38:37 - 'bell2.jpg' 152 KB
Not knowing really where to place this topic, I figured this is as good a place as any. Long story short is that my brother cleaned out a house and came across this bell. It looks like it could be off a locomotive. It weighs about 265 pounds. He wants to know if it is a locomotive bell and worth? Opinions?


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looking for pics of '69 golden spike train... - By spikemic on 07/22/04 at 19:19:14 - '0158860-R1-037-17.jpg' 69 KB
We (RCT&HS) have a baggage car from that train (which was former pennsy 9051) we use for our shop/crew car. We would like to find pics of its blue paint job it had on that train to restore it to that for our museum site.........
 
any pics/info would be helpful........
as it is now.....


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Re: Historic Shay "flies" to new home - By bdpf on 06/30/04 at 18:07:40 - 'ARGENTINE_Central_1_4-4_shay_RFV_Silver_Plume_CO_c1907_LCMcClureDRColl.jpg' 65 KB
Now again I request a forum for .................
 
Wood burners, Link & Pin, Steamers, Narrow & Standard Gauge
 
Just following advice for starting a forum, keep plugging it
 
Now for a picture to post here
This is the first one in the folder, capationed, not mine
 
bdpf "Snuffy Smith"

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Re: A visit to Steamtown - By Pennsy on 01/21/04 at 11:04:35 - '4014-1.jpg' 23 KB
Hi,
 
Thought a photo of #4014 would be appropriate here. She is on display in the Fairplex in Pomona, CA. Enjoy
 
She is so well preserved that talk was of restoration for some time. The economics killed that idea.

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Re: A visit to Steamtown - By Charlie_O on 01/20/04 at 23:38:28 - 'BigBoy.jpg' 54 KB
on Jan 20th, 2004, 6:17pm, Pennsy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Yo Charlie, I think I am upset with you. You didn't photograph my old girlfriend, #4012 Big Boy.

 
Sorry 'bout that.  Here's one from last year...

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Re: A visit to Steamtown - By Marty_Feldner on 01/20/04 at 23:09:16 - 'Jubilee.jpg' 114 KB
on Jan 20th, 2004, 5:46pm, Charlie_O wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Is that a Royal Hudson I see? ...

 
 
Not quite- it's one drive axle shy of a Hudson. 4-4-4 Jubilee class, the other side, taken summer of 2002 (notice the lack of SNOW).

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Re: A visit to Steamtown - By Charlie_O on 01/20/04 at 17:48:48 - 'Steamtown_LNE583.jpg' 88 KB
And finally, LNE caboose 583 at the roundhouse...

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Re: A visit to Steamtown - By Charlie_O on 01/20/04 at 17:46:48 - 'Steamtown_CPHudson.jpg' 120 KB
Is that a Royal Hudson I see? ...

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A visit to Steamtown - By Charlie_O on 01/20/04 at 17:45:42 - 'Steamtown_coalingtower.jpg' 91 KB
My wife and I probably chose the most desolate day of the season to visit the Steamtown Historic Site -- January 13th.  After blundering northbound through a snow squall on I-380, we arrived to find ourselves pretty much alone at the museum, aside from a scattering of park employees pushing snowblowers and a couple more shivering in the ticket booth.
-Charlie
 
Here are afew images from the visit...

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/19/03 at 10:17:23 - 'FT_Eustis_Train_Ride_2.jpg' 63 KB
....and a view of the ROW on FT Eustis from the running board.

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/19/03 at 10:16:21 - 'FT_Eustis_Train_Ride_1.jpg' 82 KB
....here is a view from the cab of the GP7 during our ride.

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/19/03 at 10:14:29 - 'usdot-t2g.jpg' 90 KB
Pulled by the GP7 was this former ICC car, a once self-propelled car that travelled the country, monitoring the track gauge and condition of track on the various routes of the major Class I railroads.  With the demise of the ICC, this and another self-propelled car became surplus, and were given to FT Eustis.  The other car is on the grounds of the nearby Dan Daniels warehouse facility of AAFES (Army and Air Force Exchange Service) as a now-stationary training classroom, with its trucks removed.

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/19/03 at 10:08:13 - 'usa4635wr.jpg' 93 KB
This is the GP7 that took us for the train ride....

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/19/03 at 10:05:46 - 'usa4616wr.jpg' 100 KB
Along the main line that runs in the middle of the median strip of the main drag through FT Eustis, they had this GP7 parked that was all decorated for the holiday season, and at night, it looked rather cool.  You might be able to see some of the strands of lights running along the edges of the locomotive.  Unfortunately, my film was too slow (Kodachrome) to allow me to get a night shot, so you can't get the benefit of the decorations all lit up.  This GP7 looks like it might have dynamic brakes, with the vents coming off of the roof.  Another unusual thing about this GP7, and the one in the following pic, is that both of their short end hoods are not full-sized, but half-sized.  It would be interesting to know if they were built this way, or if they were later modified.

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By CHESSIEMIKE on 11/17/03 at 23:58:31 - 'US_Army_Jordan_Spreader_Builders_Plate_P.jpg' 82 KB
on Nov 17th, 2003, 8:36am, hutton_switch wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here are some pics of the other rolling stock on display.  First, is an unusual piece:  what appears to be a Jordan spreader.  I was unable to locate a descriptive plaque of the piece to photograph, unfortunately, so I have no information on it.

How about the Builders Plate?  
CHESSIEMIKE

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By CHESSIEMIKE on 11/17/03 at 23:41:30 - 'US_Army_4020.jpg' 116 KB
And if you get lucky while you are there you might catch a glimpse of current operations.  
CHESSIEMIKE

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:53:46 - 'Dscn0995.jpg' 137 KB
....and lastly, here's what looks like a home-built caboose that once ran the rails on FT Eustis.  All that I've got to say, besides it being ugly , is thank goodness FT Eustis has no tunnels for this caboose to run through.  I certainly wouldn't want to be situated in the cupola if this homebuilt(?) were ever to roam through mountainous regions, going through tunnels!

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:46:15 - 'Dscn1033.jpg' 132 KB
....a tank car

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:42:37 - 'Dscn1031.jpg' 129 KB
Here is a wrecking crane used by the Army:

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:39:47 - 'Dscn0991.jpg' 130 KB
Here is a pic of a small boxcar, obviously of European vintage.  I have no other information on it, unfortunately:

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:36:29 - 'Dscn0993.jpg' 134 KB
Here are some pics of the other rolling stock on display.  First, is an unusual piece:  what appears to be a Jordan spreader.  I was unable to locate a descriptive plaque of the piece to photograph, unfortunately, so I have no information on it.

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:33:06 - 'Dscn0989.jpg' 125 KB
and the caboose....

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:30:54 - 'Dscn0987.jpg' 125 KB
The sleeper car:

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:29:53 - 'Dscn0997.jpg' 90 KB
The next three photos are rolling stock from an Army-operated troop train that ran in Europe:

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:26:07 - 'Dscn1024.jpg' 102 KB
This provides some information on the tank engine:

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:23:48 - 'Dscn1029.jpg' 120 KB
Next, we have a Vulcan oil-fired tank engine:

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Re: Rail Exhibits-U.S. Army Transportation Museum- - By hutton_switch on 11/17/03 at 08:14:49 - 'Dscn0996.jpg' 101 KB
This provides some information on the Consolidation:

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C&O Crossbuck - By CHESSIEMIKE on 10/15/03 at 06:42:52 - 'CO_Crossbuck.jpg' 161 KB
Looking for suggestions on what to do with this.  Storage has become a problem.
It is 8"X8"X12' and is HEAVY.
CHESSIEMIKE

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Restoration of a Union Switch & Signal  Train Orde - By steamtruckin on 10/11/03 at 09:51:23 - 'Order_Signal.jpg' 109 KB
I aquired from an estate a train order signal made by Union Switch and Signal. This unit is operated by a pair of levers attached to a pair or hinged rods that move the two spectacles (flags).  I am missing the mounting hardware that attaches the heavy cast spectacles  to the pole. And whatever arms or plates would attach to the rods to move the semaphore (spectacles & flags). Perhaps some early catalogs or parts drawings are available that could be copied. Or someone could take closeup detailed photographs of a surviving unit.
 
I am a new student of railroad signaling and most of my research has been reading   the web site. semaphore.com web site and centervilledepot.railfan.net   The Centerville signals are different from the US&S; I am plan to request some better photos of their signal. Centerville did a similar restorastion to what I plan. The main difference is I am doing this as an individual effort.
 
I have attached two photos of what I have to work with. My plan is too fabricate the remainder of the signal, unless I get lucky and find more parts at the estate or elsewhere.
 
I appreciate any leads on litterature, drawing or sources of the missing parts.  Copies of  litterature or drawings would be prefered, where origionals are costly.


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Re: CP "Royal Hudson" #2839 - By coaster on 08/29/03 at 22:18:58 - 'royal_hudson.jpg' 146 KB
Charlie --
 
I thought that photo seemed familiar when I finally got around to looking at it today!  It's also featured on page 2 of Jim’s Railroad Pictures ( LINK URL ), where he does credit you as the photographer.
 
You're right about her running on the Southern Steam Specials, by the way.  Here's a photo (taken by Jim Cullen) on one of those trips.
 
-- Paul

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CP "Royal Hudson" #2839 - By Charlie_O on 08/23/03 at 14:51:48 - 'CP_2839.jpg' 198 KB
Perhaps my earliest railfan memory was just before my 14th birthday when I heard about Canadian Pacific 2839 being restored on a siding in Northampton, PA.  I badgered my grandparents till they took me to the site.  I had a cheap and awful camera, and an odd affinity for framing my pix diagonally.  Nonetheless, I was able to view and record a small bit of the restoration in progress.  
 
After her restoration, she was photo'd by Jim Boyd at Northampton in 1979, and I believe she ran on the Southern steam specials into the 1980s.  She currently resides as a static display at the Nethercutt Museum in Sylmar, CA.
 
With a bit of Photoshop magic, I restored this pic to something resembling its original appearance.  The year is 1976.
 
-Charlie
 


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Re: Ford Museum gets GG1 - By CHESSIEMIKE on 08/22/03 at 21:12:51 - 'PRR_4903_GG1_P.jpg' 68 KB
on Aug 22nd, 2003, 6:18pm, Pennsy wrote:       (Click here for original message)

By the way, to the best of my knowledge, there are no surviving GG-1's west of the Mississippi River.
Age of Steam Railroad Museum, Dallas, TX, June 22, 2000.  
CHESSIEMIKE


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Re: Alco Lovers - View and CRY - By Alco83 on 07/18/03 at 12:02:17 - 'apachesmoke-400.jpg' 39 KB
A bit off-topic, but after witnessing those photos, maybe this one will ease the pain a bit.  From the Trains web site, caption provided.  Author, Alex Mayes.
 
"In true Alco fashion, five Alco Centuries pour on the smoke, departing Holbrook, Ariz. with the Apache Railway’s daily freight, returning south to Snowflake on May 27, 2000. The Apache Railway is one of the last places in the U.S. where you can see five Alco Centuries in regular freight service."
-  Alex Mayes

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Re: New Hope & Ivyland C30-7 7064,will it ever run - By Charlie_O on 06/15/03 at 17:29:05 - 'NHI_7064.jpg' 105 KB
I may be wrong, but my impression during the April 2002 NH&I Railfan Weekend was that CSX #7064 was there for parts only and wasn't intended to join the NH&I active roster.
 
I do believe however that Union Pacific C30-7 #53 (now NH&I #531) will see active service.
 
Am including a pic of 7064 on the dead line in April of '02.

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FEBT Summer Celebration / Shops Tours - By ebtrr on 05/30/03 at 22:51:51 - 'ebt_hd11.jpg' 15 KB
Summer Celebration at the East Broad Top Railroad  
Saturday and Sunday June 7 and 8, 2003
 
Celebrate the start of 2003 operations on the East Broad Top Railroad with Friends of the East Broad Top. Join our volunteers for guided tours inside and around the railroad's unique Rockhill Furnace shop and yard complex. The East Broad Top Railroad plans to operate steam-powered trains at 11 am, 1 pm, and 3 pm. In addition, the Friends of the East Broad Top Museum in nearby Robertsdale will be open special hours this weekend: 10 am to 6 pm on Saturday and 12 noon to 5 pm on Sunday.
 
For more event info visit this page at the FEBT web site.
LINK URL
 
LINK URL
 


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East Broad Top RR Homepage (unofficial) Updated - By ebtrr on 05/30/03 at 22:48:50 - 'ebt_hd12.jpg' 16 KB
Located in the beautiful Allegheny Mountains of south-central Pennsylvania, the East Broad Top is America's oldest surviving narrow gauge railroad, and now operates steam powered excursions on weekends June through October.
 
The East Broad Top Railroad Homepage (unofficial) at LINK URL has received a new set of updates. The following updates went up as of May 18, 2003.
 
Updated News section, now dedicated to news only.
* Volunteer Crews Work on Rockhill Shops Buildings
* Colorado EBT Passenger Cars for Sale
* Mount Union Connecting Railroad to reopen some EBT track
* Spare EBT Diesels go to Durango and Silverton
* EBT #6 for Sale
* RTY to extend Shade Gap Electric Railroad
* EBT Locomotive Repairs
* East Broad Top TEA21 matching grant application
 New separate section for an overhauled Events listing
 Unofficial Guide to the EBT has been updated.
 EBT E-Mail Lists has been updated with the new  EBT-Announce list.
 EBT Railroad Info on the Net has 44 new or updated links.
 Visiting the EBT has been updated.
 Tourism in the EBT Region has been updated.
 Introduction to the East Broad Top has been updated.
 EBT Site Info Page has been updated.
 Interested in an EBT Night Photo Session in 2003?
 
Stop by and visit the site, and better yet visit the railroad too!
 
The East Broad Top Homepage is an unofficial site for the The East Broad Top Railroad and Coal Company begun in 1994 to promote this historic treasure.
 
LINK URL

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Re: N&W 1218 Bound for Roanoke Museum - By chessie8212 on 04/02/03 at 23:16:35 - 'nw1218.jpg' 28 KB
Here is the lovely lady on an excursion through Fremont.  I was able to ride her from Fremont to Toledo and back.  Sorry to say that was the last passenger train, let alone steam train, that ever passed through Fremont.  
 
Hopefully she will be well kept.

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Re: B&O Museum ROOF COLLAPSE - By B_n_O_Hendo on 02/18/03 at 11:49:21 - 'bomuseum.jpg' 23 KB
I understand more of the roof collapsed. Here's the latest from the musuem:
 
The museum team is overwhelmed by the concerned response from our City and State leaders, Museum members, longtime friends and visitors from all over the Country and England, as well as our valued volunteers, and members of the media. The offers of financial and manpower assistance, as well as the regard for the welfare of the collection reaffirms our teams mission to provide all who visit the museum with an appreciation of the Birthplace of American Railroading.  
 
As discussions and plans with structural engineers, historians and construction companies are on going to "sure up" the building, extricate the pieces of the collection and restore the integrity of the 1884 Baldwin Roundhouse, please continue to visit our website at LINK URL for the most up to date information.
 
And, at the request of so many via e-mail and phone, the museum has contacted a financial partner to facilitate The Roundhouse Restoration Fund. This information will be posted soon for all those who have generously offered contributions.
 
Thank you for your continued support and understanding as the B&O Railroad Museum remains closed.

 
Here's the story from the Baltimore Sun:
 
Snow causes roof of railroad museum to partially cave in
B&O building faces indefinite closure; many exhibits may be damaged  
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By Jamie Stiehm Eric Siegel and Frederick N. Rasmussen
Sun Staff
Originally published February 18, 2003
 
 
 
The roof fell in on railroad history yesterday.
 
The landmark 1884 roundhouse - the center of the B&O Railroad Museum complex a few blocks west of Baltimore's Inner Harbor and one of the shrines of American railroading - lost half its roof under the weight of the weekend's snowfall.
 
The collapse created a gaping hole in the signature building and alarm about possible damage to the historic trains housed there. The damage also caused the indefinite closure of the museum, which attracts 160,000 visitors a year and boasts one of the most significant collection of railroad treasures in the world at a site billed as the birthplace of American railroading.
 
"I've already cried a thousand tears," said Courtney B. Wilson, the B&O's executive director, as he stood beside the locked gate to the museum's compound. He said portions of the roof first caved in shortly after midnight yesterday and again a few hours later.
 
Railroad buffs shared Wilson's grief.
 
Herbert H. Harwood, a retired CSX executive and nationally known railroad historian and author, called the roundhouse "incomparable."
 
"It is truly a cathedral of transportation," said Harwood, who described it as "the largest circular industrial building in the world ... it really is symbolic of the late 19th century in that it's optimistic, looking forward and upward."
 
Yesterday afternoon, hours after the collapse, columns of mangled steel stuck out from the roundhouse at Pratt and Poppleton streets. Locomotives and passenger cars in the museum's collection, some dating from the 1830s, could be seen from street-level windows, covered with snow and debris.
 
Officials of the museum, which contains one of the world's most extensive train collections, were unable to enter the building to assess the harm to the trains or to the roundhouse itself.
 
To prevent deterioration to the roundhouse and further damage to the trains, a temporary cover will be placed over the roof when structural engineers determine it would be safe to do so, Wilson said. He said he hoped the roof could be repaired and that insurance would cover the cost.
 
In the meantime, trains may have to be moved, he said.
 
Wilson said he arrived at the museum amid swirling snow about 1 a.m., an hour after the first section of the slate roof collapsed.
 
"To have a hole that big in the middle of the night was a tough thing to look at," he said.
 
Dismayed, he returned to his home in Locust Point a few hours later only to receive a second call around dawn: a second, larger section of the roof had caved in.
 
A neighbor who lives on Pratt Street didn't see what happened - but heard it.
 
"I went downstairs to make a pot of coffee, and I heard a crumbling noise," Barbara Wrightsman said. "My husband told me it was the roundhouse."
 
The roundhouse - one of five historic structures in the B&O Railroad Museum complex - opened in 1884 as a facility to build and repair passenger cars. The historic building, including the roof, was restored in the mid-1970s at a cost of about $1.5 million.
 
Besides housing historic trains - including a replica of the Tom Thumb built in 1927 - the roundhouse is a popular site for events such as political fund-raisers and private receptions. The museum's black-tie gala was set for March 1 in the roundhouse but will now have to be moved.
 
The museum - on the site of Mount Clare, the first train station in the United States - was founded 50 years ago and is completing a 16-month celebration of the 175th anniversary of the founding of the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad in 1827.
 
Designed by Ephraim Francis Baldwin, a Baltimore & Ohio Railroad architect, the roundhouse's circular shape comes from 22 sides of equal size. It stands 123 feet from the floor to the top of the gold cupola, which survived the collapse.
 
The building, which is on the National Register of Historic Places, has 45,000 square feet of space and takes up nearly an acre of ground. Among the roundhouse's distinguishing characteristics is a 60-foot wooden turntable inside the structure that was used to turn railroad cars.
 
It also has two pitches of roofs - the lower of which collapsed - and high windows to let in lots of light.
 
According to an early history published by the museum, the "roof section is hung onto an iron ring supported by iron struts which tie into the tops of 22 supporting columns."
 
James D. Dilts, a Baltimore-based railroad and architectural historian, said he was surprised that the roof collapsed.
 
"I thought that the structure was pretty solid," he said.
 
So did Wilson, the museum's executive director, who said he had no idea the roof was vulnerable.
 
"It's been here since 1884. That's a long time with a lot of snow," he said.
 
An event planned for the museum for Thursday on the building by the B&O of the Russian czar's railroad from Moscow to St. Petersburg will go on as scheduled, but at a different location.
 
A since-demolished station on the site of the museum complex received Samuel Morse's historic telegraphed message from the Capitol in Washington on May, 24, 1844: "What hath God wrought?"
 
It was a question that was on the minds of many yesterday as they surveyed the roundhouse.


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Re: Elkins Yard:  No Longer an Island? - By Alco83 on 01/22/03 at 22:21:42 - 'WM_-_elkins.jpg' 21 KB
Here are a few pictures of the WM station in its current condition (I actually forgot I had these ).  Hopefully that area in front of the depot thats currently a gravel field will be filled with tracks in the near future.

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Landis, NC Station - By DannyR on 01/19/03 at 12:13:38 - 'Landis_Station.jpg' 37 KB
The Landis, NC station as it appears today. This structure has been in the local news as of late as the question of who actually owns the building has been the issue---the Town of Landis or a private individual.

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4-8-4 @ New Hope, PA - By Charlie_O on 11/13/02 at 10:37:54 - 'NHI_ex-Mex484.jpg' 86 KB
This topic has been moved to New Hope & Ivyland by Admin.


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