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Salon de Refuse
 
« on: Sep 3rd, 2008, 6:31pm »
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Greetings!
 
As I said at the end of the RP.Net thread, this thread is for you to show off pictures you think are excellent, but that other people may not have agreed with you on.  This is a place for cloudy day shots, backlit shots, common power in common pose shots, and so on, as long as they are the best you could possibly have done.  
 
If the photo was rejected for a reason you agree with, please don't post it here.  If you were told that it was too dark and you agree that it was too dark, please don't post it here.  If you want advice on how to tweak the picture for resubmitting or on how to do it better next time you're at that spot, post it on the "What's Wrong  
With This Picture?" thread.
 
So, let's see what you've got!
 
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 4th, 2008, 7:51pm »
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REJECTED!
 
Two reasons...
1. Bad cropping (Screener has no idea what is to the left and right of the borders)  
 
2. Image too small (If the upload is OK, who is he to argue with his own uploading tool. Reject it there.
 
Anyways, there's the pic. I will post the uncropped version as well.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 4th, 2008, 7:52pm »
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See? even at one size smaller, its too big for here.
 
Now here is the uncropped version
 
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 4th, 2008, 8:11pm »
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Is it the "Bad cropping, edges visible" rejection or is it the "Bad cropping, this means the cropping is bad in relation to the composition" rejection?  I suspect the screener didn't like the lack of space above and below the engine, rather than the cropping on the sides.  I only say this because I've had a couple similar close-ups rejected for the same basic reason.  Why they don't like that kind of close-up, I don't know.
 
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 4th, 2008, 9:41pm »
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Bad Cropping: "Most often this means that the composition of the photo is poor as it relates the cropping of the image."
 
The three things of intrest are included in that photo. The train, the milepost and that stop sign. If I would have backed off anymore, more of the nothingness would have been in the shot.
 
The focal length was 230mm of a 70-300mm lens
 
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 4th, 2008, 9:50pm »
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I agree with you about the composition . . . I liked the image a great deal.  I'm just saying, I've run into screeners who don't like that much engine in the photo - I can't begin to explain why!  
 
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 5th, 2008, 12:02am »
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Here's my most recent rejection: backlit.  Taken from the town side of the bridge over CP Rochester at Rochester, PA.
 
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 5th, 2008, 9:32am »
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My latest rejection, for high sun and too soft (undersharpened).  Interestingly enough, I have a photo shot in the same location about 20 minutes later that was accepted into the database.  I doubt the sun dropped that much in 20 minutes!
 
 
 
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 9th, 2008, 9:50am »
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Okee dokee.  My turn for help.  What makes this one so poorly aesthetically pleasing compared to all of the other flashing FRED shots, or shots of crossing gates dropping, or headlight beams from places like Tehachapi?  I've seen some night time headlight shots where if you did not know the location yourself, you wonder if it is a train or a roadway.  I actually have one as a favorite of mine.
Reject: http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=573223&key=665302652
 
On the other hand, I did finally get one in that I've been trying for with my nephew and the CSX Q111 engineer trading waves.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=250168&nseq=0


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« Reply #9 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 10:05pm »
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Just had this one rejected for high sun . . . .



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« Reply #10 on: Sep 29th, 2008, 10:07pm »
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And this one for PEQ (poor aesthetic quality) . . .
 
 
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Re: Salon de Refuse
 
« Reply #11 on: Sep 30th, 2008, 6:51am »
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on Sep 29th, 2008, 10:05pm, VaPennsyFan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Just had this one rejected for high sun . . . .
They don't like the running gear and trucks being so dark.
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on Sep 29th, 2008, 10:07pm, VaPennsyFan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
And this one for PEQ (poor aesthetic quality) . . .
 
 
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This shot might have been better if the number was on the smokebox front. Looks kind of plain without it.
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 5th, 2008, 10:58pm »
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RP thought it was a bad angle, but I thought it was kind of a neat shot.  PRR (Juniata Terminal) E8 at DC Union Station for the 100th Anniversary.
 
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« Reply #14 on: Oct 5th, 2008, 11:08pm »
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And this was "too similar to a previous photo".
 
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 6:10pm »
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Reason(s) for Rejection:
 
- Poor Lighting (Dark): The image is too dark.
- Too Much Noise/Grain: Noise is the digital equivalent of grain.
- Subject Too Far Away: The train is too far in the distance.
- Poor Image Quality: The technical quality of the image needs to be improved.


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« Reply #16 on: Sep 16th, 2009, 1:04pm »
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Rejected upon appeal for "High Sun."  
 
Prior submissions of Q405 along the same line, same time of day, same or comparable time of year have been accepted, so I just thought it odd. But hey, that's why I rarely try my stuff over there anymore.


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« Reply #17 on: Nov 3rd, 2009, 11:26am »
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- Poor lighting (Backlit): The image is backlit or doesn't feature enough light on the nose or visible sides of the subject.


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Re: They REALLY didn't like this one!
 
« Reply #18 on: Dec 16th, 2009, 6:40pm »
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on Jan 28th, 2009, 6:10pm, RobR wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Reason(s) for Rejection:
 
- Poor Lighting (Dark): The image is too dark.
- Too Much Noise/Grain: Noise is the digital equivalent of grain.
- Subject Too Far Away: The train is too far in the distance.
- Poor Image Quality: The technical quality of the image needs to be improved.

Admittedly, I don't know anything about the RP.net standards as I am new in these parts, however, as a photographer I appreciate the ascetics of that shot, and the dark colours.


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Re: Salon de Refuse
 
« Reply #19 on: Dec 16th, 2009, 8:17pm »
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Thanks!  I'm glad you liked it.  It's one of my favorites.
 
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