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« Reply #200 on: Aug 28th, 2008, 12:00am »

This just got rejected for "poor esthetic quality". †I wish they would explain a bit more about what they mean when they say that!
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=567771&key=860278120
 
And in this one, they said the subject is too far away?
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=567773&key=0
 
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« Reply #201 on: Aug 28th, 2008, 7:04am »

on Aug 28th, 2008, 12:00am, VaPennsyFan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
This just got rejected for "poor esthetic quality".  I wish they would explain a bit more about what they mean when they say that!
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=567771&key=860278120
 
And in this one, they said the subject is too far away?
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=567773&key=0
 
Jon
Let me start by saying the only time I go to RailPictures.net is to look at someone elseís photos. I have never sent them one of mine.
Did you try sending this to GlovePhotos.com? I just donít think this is the kind of photo RP.N is looking for.
If the 2nd shot is of the signal you are fine. If it is of the train it is too far away. If it is both then the train is still too far away.
Just my take.
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« Reply #202 on: Aug 28th, 2008, 11:47am »

on Aug 28th, 2008, 7:04am, CHESSIEMIKE wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Did you try sending this to GlovePhotos.com? CHESSIEMIKE

 
Sorry, no.  I don't have a clothes fetish.  
 
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« Reply #203 on: Aug 30th, 2008, 5:40am »

They accepted 4 from me in one day. WOW! That has never happened before.
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=248685
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=248655
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=248630
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=248632
 
Now here's the question.....
 
Which pic do you think was initially rejected, re-submitted, and accepted?
 
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« Reply #204 on: Aug 30th, 2008, 8:42am »

Beautiful pictures. I'd say it's the third photo.

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« Reply #205 on: Aug 30th, 2008, 11:15am »

My guess would be that the second one initially got a rejection for "Poor lighting (backlit): The subject is backlit or there is not enough nose light."  But I'm probably wrong . . .  
 
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« Reply #206 on: Aug 30th, 2008, 11:39am »

It was the second one, but not for any lighting issues. It was declined for being "oversharpened". So I sent them an un-sharpened version.
 
At that time of day, thats the place you want to be. The lighting is on the nose when the train rounds that curve.
 
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« Reply #207 on: Aug 30th, 2008, 4:44pm »

Whatever the case, well done!  
 
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« Reply #208 on: Aug 31st, 2008, 12:02pm »

Well, here's my latest batch of rejections . . . †
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568833&key=0
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568817&key=1193686151
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568823&key=0
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568826&key=812266847
 
Any thoughts?
 
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« Reply #209 on: Aug 31st, 2008, 1:38pm »

on Aug 31st, 2008, 12:02pm, VaPennsyFan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well, here's my latest batch of rejections . . .  
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568833&key=0
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568817&key=1193686151
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568823&key=0
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568826&key=812266847
 
Any thoughts?
 
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Well, In my opinion..
The first one looks ok, Maybe they didn't like the signal stand and the guy walking by... I don't really see how the lightings that bad, its just the end of the day. I rather like the picture.
The second shot, well... It IS pretty cloudy, while the puddle gives it a nice touch, it still darkish. And it looks kind of fuzzy to me.
The third one would have been ALOT better if you were standing in a place where you could have gotten either all the motive power going into it, or the front engine or two exiting it... But that angle or composition isnt that good.
The last one, I rather like it- I don't think its a bad crap job at all.. You could have tried to fit more in the picture, but it doesn't really need it.
 


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« Reply #210 on: Aug 31st, 2008, 4:09pm »

I am not sure I understand your motivation. I was trained by a professional photographer. I had access to all of his textbooks etc. plus his private and personal coaching and advice. From what I see they are looking for perfections as they see it in their eyes. Is there some sort of remuneration involved in getting your pictures on their website or just the satisfaction that you achieved that ? From what I see they are inundated with photographs and so can nit pick. If it was a photograph that was newsworthy, one that a newspaper would pay to publish, it probably would be a different story. The photos I take are for the pleasure and satisfaction of those around me, and most importantly, myself. Hopefully you do the same. I would not worry about their yardsticks for perfection but I would admire those photographs that they do publish and thereby give myself the opportunity to also nit pick and reject what they have approved. Your photographs would be more than acceptable to those as interested in the subjects photographed as you are. If you would like to see them published, publish them along with your postings in this and other similar forums.

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« Reply #211 on: Aug 31st, 2008, 6:54pm »

on Aug 31st, 2008, 12:02pm, VaPennsyFan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Well, here's my latest batch of rejections . . . †
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568833&key=0
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568817&key=1193686151
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568823&key=0
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=568826&key=812266847
 
Any thoughts?
 
Jon

 
 
The First Picture, the engineers side of the locomotive is to dark. If you were shooting the locomotive from the fireman's side the locomotive would have been lit better. Now I understand the coal loading dock is over there and would have cut out the bottom of the locomotive if you were shooting from that side.  
 
The second picture just looks underexposed, there is too much gray in the picture. I personally like the picture, the water puddle and station platform is a nice touch to the picture.  
 
The third picture, I don't understand the 'Bad angle' they gave you. As for the 'Bad Cropping' you cut out the back end of the locomotive. Usually if you add a picture that even cuts out even a small portion of the main subject, they will get  you with 'Bad cropping'. They also will do that if you cut out scenery. As for 'Composition/Balance', they will usually get you with that if your picture is uneven, like if the subject is not centered, and there is more ground than sky in the picture.  
 
As for the fourth picture, you only shot the locomotive, railpictures like having a little scenery added. I think its a good picture, well lit good angle. I for one don't understand why railpictures are so picky on cropping, if its a good picture of a train, it should be added in my opinion.
 
Oh well, I guess you win some you lose some, keep up the good work!
 
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« Reply #212 on: Sep 2nd, 2008, 2:55pm »

Another rejection    This time it's a sunset shot that's too dark . . . any help?
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreject.php?id=570261&key=516808951
 
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« Reply #213 on: Sep 3rd, 2008, 11:24am »

Don't take shots that are too dark.
 
You're going to have to work on your ability to critique your own work, to look at it dispassionately.  As I understand the idea behind RP.Net, they wanted to create a collection of photographs that would work as illustrations for books or articles.  If you don't think your shot would be good enough to be selected by a publisher, don't submit it to RP.Net.  
 
And if RP.Net says "That photo is too <whatever>" and you look at it and say "Yeah, I agree that shot is too <whatever>", don't post it here.  Just chalk it up as another lesson in photography.
 
That set of four rejections that you posted had some nice photographs in it, and I think it was appropriate to show them to us on this thread.  This one is nowhere near as good.
 
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« Reply #214 on: Sep 3rd, 2008, 11:48am »

on Sep 3rd, 2008, 11:24am, RobR wrote:       (Click here for original message)

And if RP.Net says "That photo is too <whatever>" and you look at it and say "Yeah, I agree that shot is too <whatever>", don't post it here. †Just chalk it up as another lesson in photography.
 
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With that in mind, and with the understanding that I am very much an amateur when it comes to photography of this sort, is there anything I can do in those conditions to make a good photograph?  For instance, would fill flash have been useful in that case, or would it have altered the exposure in such a way as to lose the refelction off the side of the train?  I imagine a longer exposure, combined with the use of a tripod, might make a difference, but I had just stepped off the train to stretch my legs, and didn't have a tripod with me, but I don't know if that really would have helped or not . . .
I guess what I'm saying is, while I can understand the rejection notice, I need some help with the lesson behind it, as far as techniques if not evaluation.
 
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« Reply #215 on: Sep 3rd, 2008, 12:03pm »

The first thing to do, I think, would be to take a series of pictures at different exposures.  All but the simplest cameras give you a way to adjust exposures, and many will automatically take a series of pictures at different exposures.  My camera lets me adjust by 1/3 of a stop.  I'd probably use 2/3-stop increments:  one shot underexposed by 2/3 stop, one at normal exposure, and one overexposed by 2/3 stop.  (If you're working from a tripod, as you should be, and your subject isn't moving, there's some fancy ways to combine pictures of different exposures to get some striking results.)  
 
The reflections on the side of the train are such a small element of this picture that I actually did not notice them.  If they're what you want, you can crop out an awful lot of this picture.  The guy on the cart doesn't do anything for you, and the station canopy isn't all that much better.  
 
What are you using to edit your photographs?  If you have PhotoShop or some similar program that has levels and curves controls as well as brightness and contrast, learn how to use them and see what they can do for your pictures.  If you don't have a good photo editor, consider downloading GIMP (http://www.gimp.org, I think).  It's a bit intimidating, but it's free and very nearly as powerful as PhotoShop.  There are probably many good free or low-cost photo editors I don't know about, too.  
 
Good luck!
 
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« Reply #216 on: Sep 3rd, 2008, 6:25pm »

Ladies and gentlemen,
 
I really hadn't expected this thread to run on as long as it has when I created it.  I just wanted to try to give people what I thought to be a realistic view of what RailPictures.net is and what it isn't.  I think the users of this forum will be better served if I lock this thread and create two new ones, "Salon de Refuse" and "What's Wrong With This Picture?".  "Salon de Refuse" will be a place to show photographs that have been rejected by any other site (most notably, of course, RP.Net).  "What's Wrong With This Picture?" will be a place to ask how your photographs could be improved or how they could have been done better when the button was first pressed.
 
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