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"THE COLLOSUS OF BUFFALO" Buffalo Central Tribute
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Henry
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« Reply #40 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 1:32pm »
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BTW, http://central.terminal.railfan.net/ is a site that I started back in 1997. I have always loved BCT since the first time I saw it. I wish I had taken more pics of it when it was still in use, but to a teenager, things like BCT will always be there and in use. Youth is so wasted on the young...
 
Here's a 24x15 print that I have hanging on the wall of my office. It is titled "Midnight in Buffalo." I first saw it at a historical society raffle and fell in love with it. I absolutely had to have it. I didn't win the raffle so I asked where they got it from, ordered a print for myself and had it framed.
 
Henry


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #41 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 1:51pm »
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Henry.....
 
How many of us (your humble writer included) now regret not taking more pictures of then-existing transportation infrastructure, as we all felt that "they'll be around for a long time, yet".
 
Talk about the misconceptions of youth.......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #42 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 2:07pm »
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Date this classic "tenant" scene at Buffalo to 1935......
 
http://central.terminal.railfan.net/pics/railphoto.cgi?pre1950/th_brr15.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #43 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 2:45pm »
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All:
 
This little snippet from "NEW YORK CENTRAL'S STATIONS AND TERMINALS" says it all:
 
".......the terminal was more than a gateway. It was a triumphal monument......."
 
'nuff said.......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #44 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 3:58pm »
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Interesting what a miscaptioned photo will turn up!
 
According to the caption info for this classic steam-era shot from 1948, snap was taken at Buffalo.
 
Hmmmmm.....wasn't aware that catenary was used in the area.......<G> (I'm wagering CUT, here)
 
Nonetheless, a handsome, regal machine..........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s5263o.jpg


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Henry
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« Reply #45 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 4:10pm »
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Looks like a steam to electric changeover point at Cleveland on the CUT.
 
Henry


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« Reply #46 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 4:28pm »
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on Jun 7th, 2012, 4:10pm, Henry wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Looks like a steam to electric changeover point at Cleveland on the CUT.
 
Henry

 
 
Thanks, Henry......
 
I see I am not alone thinking this was a CUT scene!
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #47 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 6:47pm »
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In the years following abandonment, Central Terminal suffered many indignities.
 
IMHO, this, by far, was the worst of those indignities......once again, stupidity and poor planning walking hand-in-hand......
 
http://www.opacity.us/image2179_passenger_terminal_overpass.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #48 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 6:54pm »
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All:
 
An interesting collection of photos of the Terminal from 2007......
 
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/bct.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #49 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 6:57pm »
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"A NIGHT AT BUFFALO CENTRAL TERMINAL" (9/54); trains, equipment, etc.......
 
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/BUFFALO.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #50 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 8:09pm »
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A neat little station, but a terrible comedown from Central Terminal; Exchange St. Buffalo, 1956.......
 
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/exchange.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #51 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 8:44pm »
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"PORTAL TO YESTERDAY"........
 
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/convention/IMG_0854.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #52 on: Jun 7th, 2012, 11:06pm »
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A small collection of interesting photos......
 
http://travelphotobase.com/s/NYBHR.HTM


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #53 on: Jun 8th, 2012, 12:03am »
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Scroll down this page of vintage Canadian rail photos to the 7th row; note the photo of the Canadian RDC at Buffalo in 1971.
 
Flexi-Van on the right......
 
http://www.trainweb.org/theattic/Canada.html


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« Reply #54 on: Jun 8th, 2012, 7:45am »
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on Jun 7th, 2012, 8:09pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A neat little station, but a terrible comedown from Central Terminal; Exchange St. Buffalo, 1956.......
 
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/exchange.jpg

HFM -
 
So, as it played out, it clearly, "...back to where it all began..."! Downtown BUFFALO Station, near the Lake.
 
BTW. Great choice of description, THE COLLOSUS. Those who know History must enjoy this reference. Last time we had one of those,  
it was destroyed by an earthquake! It had a bright light on top of it, too...
 
..........................Vern.......................  


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« Reply #55 on: Jun 8th, 2012, 8:22am »
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on Jun 8th, 2012, 12:03am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Scroll down this page of vintage Canadian rail photos to the 7th row; note the photo of the Canadian RDC at Buffalo in 1971.
 
Flexi-Van on the right......
 
http://www.trainweb.org/theattic/Canada.html

 
In the 70's at my summer job I would frequently take lunch late so I could watch the incoming TH&B/CP Budd car. Back then I called it the Budd-liner as that was what my cousins and I always called my dad's Lionel #400 B&O RDC. I worked about 150' from the ex-NYC Niagara Branch and about a mile from the International Bridge, which was the border crossing for both the Budd car run and the daily Empire State Express. There was an abandoned building that was partially demolished next to the tracks and I could climb up onto the top a remaining cinder block wall for a nice elevated half mile view of the oncoming trains. If I was really lucky I could catch the Budd car, the ESE and a coal train during lunch. Somewhere I have a grainy B&W of the Budd car I shot from near there. Occasionally for lunch I would ride my bicycle down to the International Bridge and either watch from the former Grand Trunk depot site or cross the canal onto Squaw Island to watch it crossing the International Bridge. I know I have some shots of the ESE there, not sure if I have any of the Budd car or not.
 
I also saw the Budd car at Central Terminal several times during its layover. Of course I am sorry today that I never rode on it.
 
Henry


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« Reply #56 on: Jun 8th, 2012, 9:14am »
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on Jun 8th, 2012, 7:45am, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)

HFM -
 
So, as it played out, it clearly, "...back to where it all began..."! Downtown BUFFALO Station, near the Lake.
 
BTW. Great choice of description, THE COLLOSUS. Those who know History must enjoy this reference. Last time we had one of those,  
it was destroyed by an earthquake! It had a bright light on top of it, too...
 
..........................Vern.......................  

 
 
Vern........
 
Thanks!
 
Yes, I strongly felt that "COLLOSUS" was than a fitting title for this towering monument to another age!
 
Just gazing at its sheer massiveness easily overwhelms!
 
Just think of how it must have awed and impressed small-town folk, arriving at Buffalo for the first time, totally and completely in wonder at what they were beholding........
 
"Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas, anymore!"<G>
 
That such an awe-inspiring gateway was allowed to fall upon such evil times is nothing short of criminal in my book......
 
"H.F.M."


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« Reply #57 on: Jun 8th, 2012, 9:20am »
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Henry:
 
You, surely, are the richer for such memories!
 
Too bad you never got to ride that RDC.
 
At the very least, you can recall a time when at least some trains still called at Buffalo Central; we passed through it briefly in 1966, on a weekend NYC excursion to Niagara Falls with my folks.
 
We were hustled through the echoing corridors to our connecting buses so fast we barely got a chance to see more than fleeting glances, but, what I did see, sure made me want to come back and spend some several hours exploring and watching the trains!
 
The big bison on its plinth and the high ceilings stand out particularly in my memory.......
 
"H.F.M."


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« Reply #58 on: Jun 8th, 2012, 9:44am »
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HFM -
 
Honestly! There was so much space (it wasn't just the tower), it is difficult to understand why it didn't become a SUNYAB Campus.  
The action would have been an immense aid to the surrounding neighborhood.
 
Recall, CENTRAL TERMINAL plagued with a the detractors claiming it was too distant from Niagara Square. Yes, but, convenient  
to the Airport!
 
But, oh, no! The "New Campus" went to someone's soy bean fields! So much for any cheap talk that, as policy, we are committed  
to positive uplift of the Cities!  
 
Cultural Reference: Much like the original, surely the B C T beacon observed in the night, at least twenty to twenty five miles distant,  
out on Lake Erie...
 
..........................Vern........................


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« Reply #59 on: Jun 8th, 2012, 10:04am »
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Vern.......
 
Given the sprawling spaces of the Terminal, it could well have functioned as a campus, a museum, and as an Amtrak stop......Amtrak could have simply operated out of a small area, keeping expenses down, but STILL providing rail services!
 
Sure as heck would have been a more merciful option than simply letting the echoing old palace fall prey to vandals and the capricious whims of Mother Nature......and don't get me started over the simply malicious amputation of the connection the the train concourse to allow for the passage of stack trains.....shoot, why not just re-route them onto another track!
 
Damn waste.......
 
"H.F.M."
 
"H.F.M."


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