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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #760 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 9:59am »
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Vern......
 
Yes, I had noted that route was not blessed with rails that were kept in good repair.......certainly, watching your speed along this line was a must!
 
Recall, by the 70's, PC's last remaing RPO was operating between NYC and DC, a far cry from the bustling hubub of only a decade earlier.
 
Too much had changed too fast.........
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #761 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 10:26am »
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Miami, 1960......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/sal/sal3014ads.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #762 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 10:27am »
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Raleigh, NC, 1964..........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/sal/sal3048awc.jpg


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #763 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 10:55am »
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on Jul 4th, 2012, 10:26am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Miami, 1960......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/sal/sal3014ads.jpg

HFM -
 
Possibly the "Cross State" schedule, which served Miami - Tampa? See the period timetables...
 
........................Vern......................


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #764 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 11:08am »
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All:
 
Just came across the following; without a doubt, it took a sharp, on-the-ball fellow to work an RPO.........
 
http://discussions.mnhs.org/collections/2010/01/railway-post-office-exam-practice-kit


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #765 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 12:03pm »
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Long ago on the B&O.......
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smithsonian/2551091684/


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #766 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 12:11pm »
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"OWNEY, THE MASCOT OF THE RAILWAY MAIL SERVICE" (this is an interesting little story).........
 
http://www.postalmuseum.si.edu/exhibits/2c1f_owney.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #767 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 4:56pm »
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A particularly impressive view of an ERIE baggage/express car at an unidentified location (1960).......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/erie-be597lba.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #768 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 5:02pm »
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Interesting view of an ERIE train at Youngstown, Ohio, in 1960  (RPO furthest from camera).
 
Note BANGOR & AROOSTOCK Pullman in consist.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/bar/bar-pullman.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #769 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 5:15pm »
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Unidentified ERIE train at Leavettsburg, Ohio, about 1960.
 
With an RS-3 doing the honors, this vew is quite reminscent of any of a number of similiar trains running through the bedroom communities of New Jersey at the time.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/erie-leaPT-lba.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #770 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 9:50pm »
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"PARCELS & POST OFFICE TRAFFIC" (express/mail in Great Britain)
 
Excellent historical page on "head-end" services/equipment in Great Britain.
 
Note that, in later years, some cars were converted from surplus DMU equipment (Diesel Multiple Units).........
 
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/7-fops/fo-mail.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #771 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 10:01pm »
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"MAIL BY RAIL", another excellent site from Great Britain.
 
Note that, in GB, the "RPO" was known as a "TPO" (Travelling Post Office)......
 
http://www.lightstraw.co.uk/gpo/tpo/index.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #772 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 10:07pm »
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Unlike the United States, "mail by rail" is still alive in Great Britain; this page details the "CLASS 325" EMU's (Electric Multiple Units).
 
Here at home, MU's once carried mail and baggage on several roads, including the NYC, the PRR, the LIRR, and the DL&W........
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_325


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #773 on: Jul 4th, 2012, 10:10pm »
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Thorough, interesting page on "Travelling Post Offices" in Great Britain.
 
Note that, the "TPO" ("RPO" here in the States), remained in use until 2004, nearly 30 years after the last RPO operated in the United States......
 
http://www.ask.com/wiki/Travelling_Post_Offices_in_the_United_Kingdom


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #774 on: Jul 5th, 2012, 12:52pm »
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Interesting photo gallery of vintage BR "head-end" stock.......
 
http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoaches


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #775 on: Jul 6th, 2012, 11:12pm »
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All:
 
Following are some interesting historical bits from veteran railroader Frank X. Lundy, interviewed for the book "THE RAILROADERS", by Stuart Leuthner (Random House, 1983):
 
"........the Railway Mail Service was a great business. We gripe and moan good-naturedly, but we'd always get the job done. Many a Christmas I worked. Many a New Year's I spent out on the rails, because, as a junior man, you were just a sweat hog......."
 
"........Unless you could get a senior man to work for you, you worked, and that was like trying to get a snowball out of hell. In 1939, I went to Penn Station, and served my time in the 'salt mines', as we called them, deep below street level......."
 
".........they had miles of tunnels down there. Freight elevators, conveyors, and chutes everywhere to take the mail down to train level. They had for-wheeled carts that they pulled with little motors. I was a distribution clerk, and we made sure that the mail was loaded on the train it was supposed to be on......."
 
"........we acted as a liason between the Post Office and the railroads. I'd size up the platforms and see how much mail we had. We figured out in so many sacks to three feet, etc., and how much mail we had would determine how many cars we needed. Storage cars were sixty-footers or forty-footers. It got so that you could do this stuff in your sleep......."
 
".........It was up to ther railroad to supply us with cars was we got the mail out on the platforms. The railroads could be fined thousands of dollars  for not providing a car, or interfering with the transportation of mail......."
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #776 on: Jul 7th, 2012, 9:48am »
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Also from Mr. Lundy:
 
"........in an RPO, you put in less time, but you worked twice as hard. We got $2,000 a year more than a regular post office clerk. The way they worked it was that every six hours and twenty-five minutes you spent out on the road was comparable to eight hours in a post office......."
 
".......I worked for a while on the Boston-Albany run, and then transferred back to New York and accepted a job at Penn Station until I could bid on a New York-Chicago RPO as a regular clerk. Everything ran on seniority. No politics involved....."


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #777 on: Jul 7th, 2012, 11:10am »
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HFM -
 
Trying to do "constant dollar" restatements of our (albeit somewhat trashy) paper currency. You did not pass along exact dates of the accounts.  
My own perception, it was Post WWII?
 
In any case, the added $2,000 per annum for RPO work was a strong bit of pay. Why, it was forty (40) dollars more per week! At the time, many  
worked at the forty dollar figure for a week's work elsewhere...
 
........................Vern.....................


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« Reply #778 on: Jul 7th, 2012, 12:14pm »
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Vern......
 
Quick-scanned through chapter, and Mr. Lundy tells us that he took the test (two examinations) for Railway Mail Clerk in 1935, and retired in 1968........
 
"H.F.M."


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« Reply #779 on: Jul 7th, 2012, 2:12pm »
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on Jul 7th, 2012, 11:10am, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)
HFM -
 
Trying to do "constant dollar" restatements of our (albeit somewhat trashy) paper currency. You did not pass along exact dates of the accounts.  
My own perception, it was Post WWII?
 
In any case, the added $2,000 per annum for RPO work was a strong bit of pay. Why, it was forty (40) dollars more per week! At the time, many  
worked at the forty dollar figure for a week's work elsewhere...
 
........................Vern.....................

 
When I started college, a Second Lieutenant made $212/month base pay (and got $47.88, IIRC, "commutation allowance" to pay for meals in field ration mess). That $40/week supplement would come to  78.6% of a newly commissioned officer's whole base pay, and right at 64% of his entire pay (unless getting quarters allowance). By the time i was commissioned and on active duty in 1966, there had been a couple of raises (for the first time since shortly after the Korean Armistace) and it seems like base pay was about $287/mo, with the commutation allowance still at $47.88. i recall we got another raise either October, 66 or maybe January, 67, to $303/mo. That one sticks because with the commutation allowance (nontaxable, that was), my gross monthly pay reached $351/month...
 
Which perhaps offers some perspective on the value of the supplement, or perhaps how poorly military officers were paid in those (now) far-off times. NOTE: I didn't feel as if i was poorly paid. I was able to pay my bills, buy a car, have a little fun and save 10% of my pay every month (more when I got to Vietnam) in Overseas Savings that paid 10%, tax deferred. That money came in handy (along with GI Bill) when I went to law school in 1971.  graduated in November, 1973 with no debts and orders transferring to JAGC and to report for duty in January, 1974. I was broke, but didn't have any debts....


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